THE FLESH

First, you people know nothing about being born again. Second, you can't decide you want to be born again. God through his Holy Spirit chooses. Those in Pentecost 33CE were chosen by God. They never commanded the Holy Spirit to come on their head.

Born again christians still sin because

1: its either u wer not genuinely saved
2: you still have the root of sin in you that can only be removed tru sanctification of ur heart......not all churches know about the 3 christian experiences. Salvation, sanctification and the baptism of the holy spirit confirmed with speaking in a new tongue and not gibberish( a language spoken on this earth)

Na to fufill all Righteousness

adjoviomole:
Born again christians still sin because


2: you still have the root of sin in you that can only be removed tru sanctification of ur heart......not all churches know about the 3 christian experiences. Salvation, sanctification and the baptism of the holy spirit confirmed with speaking in a new tongue and not gibberish( a language spoken on this earth)

@ Adjoviomole,

You mention in number 2 that the root of sin is removed through sanctification of the heart. Does this mean the person now attains "sinless perfection"?

jayloyexten:
Please this is very important, I urge you read it, it changed my thinking about the sin ish.


VICTORY OVER SIN

“For we are saved by hope, but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth why doth he yet hope for?” Romans 8:24

A lot of persons are crying in their closest, “Lord I have given my life to you, why does sin still have dominion over me. But they are shy to say it, because the last time they went to church their pastor preached that “Once you are born again, the power of sin instantly dies” and likewise a lot of Christian live in condemnation.

The question then is, what is the problem with the gospel of salvation that we heard? We see it in teachings but not in practice. Is it that the blood of Christ that was shed 2000 years ago has expired and can no longer save from sin? Did Jesus really die?

We hear that sin is defeated at salvation, but peter was born again, yet he denied Christ, Paul spoke rashly to an elder, and peter in Galatians 2 was caught in hypocrisy. And so Paul said to him if I build again the things which I destroyed I make myself a transgressor.

What really is salvation and how do we lose it? Let me make it clear, Jesus can save us from sin, and his blood never expires even after 2000 years. But there is one enemy of salvation, and that is the flesh.

Let us examine what we were taught about salvation. 1 John 5:18 says “He that is born of God does not commit sin” What is written there is not “he that is born again” or he that said “Jesus come into my life”, it is clear, it reads “He that is born of God”

Another surprising thing is that John 1:12 says that “But as many that received him…to them he gave power to become sons of God” better put, to them he gave power to become “born of God” so at salvation we are given the power to become sons of God, not necessarily that we are sons of God.

The question then is, how can we become “born of God?” We are considered dead until we become born of God.

Remember that John 3:16 says that “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes on him shall not perish but have everlasting LIFE” Also remember that when Adam and Eve fell, they lost eternal LIFE. And so Jesus died, and the Bible says that he became the first born, and we are sons. So Jesus came to give us eternal LIFE, through sonship. So to enter into heaven we must be “born of God”. Now that LIFE of sonship that qualifies us for heaven can only be attained by one means. See below

Romans 8: 6 says, “For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is LIFE and peace” Hence the equation has been solved to be born of God is to be spiritually minded.

Now victory over sin comes by being spiritually minded and not just born again, those are the people that cannot sin, because they are not of the flesh. What it means is that sin becomes repulsive to them, not that they are completely immune to sin, or if they sin it would not be counted against them.

And so the Bible says in Romans 12, “be ye transformed (into sons of God) by the renewing of your mind” so you can truly overcome the works of the flesh. Our mind is renewed by the word of God.
Now you see why you may still sin even after salvation, because the spirit and the flesh are in constant contention. But from today’s text, we are saved by hope, and everything we hope for may not be seen at the moment. But the power over sin has been given you.

You must refuse to let your failures deter you; if you fall today you will not fall tomorrow. Let your faith be strong in Gods saving grace. Run back to God, it does not mean you are not born again.(1 John 2:1) Be transformed to become born of God by reading the word and walking by the spirit, giving no room for the flesh. In this generation you need the infilling of the Holy Spirit

You cannot say that you have been delivered from the spirit of masturbation and you are still watching pornography! It will come back. Give no room for the flesh!

Romans 8:23 says, Paul speaking, “…Even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption to wit (to become born of God), the redemption of our body”

Salvation is faith. It is not giving excuses for sin; it is the hope that sin is defeated, even if it does not yet appear. But we know that once hope is perfected in us, then we are made perfect. This is the pressing into perfection called sanctification; the total defeat of the flesh.


With love,
08100093154

because they never have personal encounter with God. after being born again. That is, salvation. they still need sanctification for anointing before becoming Christ like.

More grace

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



So this is not even original?

You should have been able to improve on anyone else's Message.

Clearly, that is beyond you- that's too bad. But providing the Remedy to such problems is my job.



As soon as I saw what this Nutter opened with, I knew that there is no way that he knows what he is talking about.

It is going to be a crock.

. ROMANS 7:14-25.

14. For we know
that the Law is spiritual:
but I am Carnal,
sold under sin.
15. For that which I do I allow not:
for what I would, that do I not;
but what I hate, that do I.
16. If then I do that which I would not,
I consent unto the Law that it is Good.
17. Now then it is no more I that do it,
but Sin that dwelleth in me.
18. For I know that in me
[that is, in my Flesh,]
dwelleth no good thing:
for to will is present with me;
but how to perform that which is Good
I find not.
19. For the Good that I would I do not:
but the Evil which I would not,
that I do.
20. Now if I do that I would not,
it is no more I that do it,
but Sin that dwelleth in me.
21. I find then a Law, that,
when I would do Good,
Evil is present with me.
22. For I delight in the Law of God
after the Inward Man:
23. But I see another Law in my Members,
warring against the Law of my Mind,
and bringing me into Captivity to the Law of Sin
which is in my Members.
24. O wretched man that I am!
Who shall deliver me
from the Body of this Death?
25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So then with the Mind
I myself serve The Law of God;
but with the Flesh The Law of Sin.

PAUL WAS A LIAR, AND EASILY THE MOST EVIL MAN IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

He deliberately destroyed THE GOSPEL by hunting down all of the Jewish Brethren who had seen Yahshua after his Resurrection, bringing them bound to Jerusalem, to face the choice of agreeing to SHUT UP about Yahshua's Teachings, FOR EVER- or else DIE IMMEDIATELY.

Some of them picked "DIE IMMEDIATELY, PLEASE!"

. ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things contrary
to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the Saints did I shut up in prison,
having received authority from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft in every synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them even unto strange cities."

I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW IT WAS FOR THOSE BRETHREN.

They did nothing wrong.

Then along came this... freak, and beat them in the Synagogues, and tied them like ANIMALS, and brought them to Jerusalem, to be KILLED.

I want to to THINK about this... bastard, who was PAID-IN-FULL for EVERY Christian whom he delivered.

I want you to THINK about how he LAUGHED, as he ENJOYED the PROCEEDS of his WICKEDNESS.

. MATTHEW 23:27-33.

27. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres,
which indeed appear beautiful outward,
but are within full of dead men's bones,
and of all uncleanness.
28. "Even so ye also outwardly appear Righteous unto men,
but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
because ye build the tombs of the Prophets,
and garnish the sepulchres of the Righteous,
30. "And say,

'IF WE HAD BEEN
IN THE DAYS OF OUR FATHERS,
WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
PARTAKERS WITH THEM
IN THE BLOOD OF THE PROPHETS.'

31. "Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves,
that ye are the Children of them which killed the Prophets.
32. "Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33. "Ye Serpents, ye Generation of Vipers,
how can ye escape The Damnation of Hell?"

WHAT NOBODY IS TELLING US ABOUT THE PHARISEES, IS THAT THEY MADE A PROFESSION OF ACCUSING FELLOW ISRAELITES OF SIN, AND, IF THEY COULD FIND THEM GUILTY, EXECUTING THEM, THEN SHARING THE STUFF OF THE DECEASED.

The WIDOW of the "Enemy-of-the-State" would be informed that she no longer had her husband's property- and they would VERY PRAYERFULLY, AND PIOUSLY, TAKE THE PROPERTY FROM HER.

That is why Yahshua said that they were FULL of Wickedness!

Where was NO ROOM to INSERT more Wickedness into them!

These people were CRAZY with COVETOUSNESS.

The wish to acquire other people's Property was their motivation.

That was PAUL'S motivation, when he hunted down The first Disciples.

Then he had the temerity to say:

"THE LAW DID THAT TO ME!"

Damn LIAR!

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any soul sin through ignorance,
then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering.
28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement
for the soul that sinneth ignorantly,
when he sinneth by ignorance before The LORD,
to make an Atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.
29. "Ye shall have One Law for him
that sinneth through ignorance,
both for him that is born among The Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them.
30. "But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously,
whether he be born in the Land, or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth The LORD;
and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
31. "Because he hath Despised The Word of The LORD,
and hath Broken His Commandment,
that soul shall utterly be cut off;
his iniquity shall be upon him."

HE SINNED BECAUSE HE DESPISED THE WORD OF THE LAW.

What else do you want to say about it?

. MARK 7:5-13.

5. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him,
"Why walk not thy Disciples
according to the Tradition of the Elders,
but eat bread with unwashen hands?"
6. He answered and said unto them,
"Well hath Esaias prophesied of you
hypocrites, as it is written,

'THIS PEOPLE HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS,
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
7. 'HOWBEIT IN VAIN
DO THEY WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.'

8. "For laying aside The Commandment of God,
ye hold The Tradition of Men,
as the washing of pots and cups:
and many other such like things ye do."
9. And he said unto them,
"Full well ye reject
The Commandment of God,
that ye may keep your own Tradition.
10. "For Moses said,

'HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER;'
AND, 'WHOSO CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER,
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH:'

11. "But ye say,

'IF A MAN SHALL SAY
TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER,

"IT IS CORBAN,
THAT IS TO SAY, A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER
THOU MIGHTEST BE
PROFITED BY ME;"

HE SHALL BE FREE.'

12. "And ye suffer him
no more to do ought
for his father or his mother;
13. "Making The Word of God
of none effect
through your Tradition,
which ye have delivered:
and many such like things do ye."
14. And when he had called
all the people unto him,
he said unto them,
"Hearken unto me
every one of you,
and understand:
15. "There is nothing from without a man,
that entering into him can defile him:
but the things which come out of him,
those are they that defile the man.
16. "If any man have ears to hear,
let him hear."
17. And when he was entered
into the house from the people,
his Disciples asked him concerning the Parable.
18. And he saith unto them,
"Are ye so without understanding also?
Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing
from without entereth into the man,
it cannot defile him;
19. "Because it entereth not into his heart,
but into the belly,
and goeth out into the draught,
purging all meats?"
20 And he said,
"That which cometh out of the man,
that defileth the man.
21. "For from within,
out of the heart of men,
proceed evil thoughts,
adulteries, fornications,
murders,
22. "Thefts, covetousness,
wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness,
an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23. "All these evil things
come from within,
and defile the man."

YAHSHUA PRONOUNCED THE JUDGMENT OF GOD: THAT SIN COMES FROM THE HEART- NOT THE FLESH.

Your Body CANNOT act on its own. YOUR MIND must tell your body what to do.

PAUL LIED: he Sinned because he HATED God and LOVED SATAN.


. MATTHEW 6:19-24.

19. “Lay not up for yourselves Treasures upon Earth,
where moth and rust doth corrupt,
and where thieves break through and steal:
20. “But lay up for yourselves Treasures in Heaven,
where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt,
and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21. “For where your Treasure is,
there will your heart be also.
22. "The Light of the body is the Eye:
if therefore thine Eye be single,
thy whole body shall be full of Light.
23. "But if thine eye be evil,
thy whole body shall be full of Darkness.
If therefore the Light that is in thee be Darkness,
how great is that Darkness!
24. "No man can serve two masters:
for either he will hate the one, and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and mammon."

PAUL SAID THAT HE SERVED TWO MASTERS- ONE WITH HIS BODY, THE OTHER WITH HIS MIND.

Yahshua said that there is no such thing.

WHOM DO YOU BELIEVE?

You have three choices- all of them had better be YAHSHUA, YAHSHUA, and YAHSHUA!



PAUL NEVER HAD VICTORY OVER SIN HIS WHOLE LIFE.

So why are you following HIM?

THAT is why you have never found the SIMPLE Solution.



This is mere rambling and time-wasting.

Get to THE POINT!

. JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
then are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you Free."



WHOM DID YOU HEAR THAT FROM?

When you trace the Origins of Stupid Doctrines, you find that they originate in LIES.

How do you define "SALVATION?"



THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE.

WHO told you that PETER was EVER "BORN AGAIN?"

There is NO EVIDENCE that Peter was EVER Born Again!

. LUKE 22:31-32.

31. And the Lord said,
"Simon, Simon, behold,

'SATAN HATH DESIRED TO HAVE YOU,
THAT HE MAY SIFT YOU AS WHEAT:'

32. "But I have prayed for thee,
that thy Faith fail not:
and when thou art converted,
strengthen thy Brethren."

PETER FOLLOWED YAHSHUA FOR THREE YEARS- YET, YAHSHUA TOLD HIM- HE WAS NOT YET CONVERTED.

CONVERSION is a very big deal!



You must be talking about the time when PAUL pretended not to know who the High Priest was.

. ACTS 23:1-6.

AND Paul, earnestly beholding the Council, said,
“Men and Brethren, I have lived in all good conscience
before God until this day.
2. And the High Priest Ananias commanded
them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth.
3. Then said Paul unto him,
“God shall smite thee, thou whited wall:
for sittest thou to judge me after The Law,
and commandest me to be smitten
contrary to The Law?”
4. And they that stood by said,
“Revilest thou God's High Priest?”
5. Then said Paul,
“I wist not, Brethren,
that he was the High Priest:
for it is written,

'THOU SHALT NOT SPEAK EVIL
OF THE RULER OF THY PEOPLE.'

6. But when Paul perceived
that the one part were Sadducees,
and the other Pharisees,
he cried out in the council,
"Men and Brethren, I am a Pharisee,
the son of a Pharisee:
of the Hope and Resurrection of the Dead
I am called in question."

PAUL HAD GROWN UP A SON OF A PHARISEE, AND TAUGHT BY GAMALIEL.

It is UNBELIEVABLE that he no know who the High Priest was.

The High Priest, too was PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW PAUL- HIS BEST BOUNTY-HUNTER!

This Event is consistent with Paul being a Secret Undercover Agent of The Pharisees- the Sadducees not being privy to his mission.

He now gave a signal, that he was in place, and the plan was proceeding smoothly.

The Signal appears to be that he should pretend not to recognize the High Priest, as they all pretended not to know the Prophets of God- JOHN and YAHSHUA.



This is not for Paul to say.

So because PETER had preached to some Gentiles, he could no longer sit with his Jewish Brethren again?

That was grandstanding on the part of Paul.

I shall be back to finish shortly.

Wow, i am surprised none has replied this guy, well I can understand why,
Your write up is a confused twisting of bible passages to express your belief. People can't even begin to say this is where I start to tackle all you have said. And it is pretty obvious you speak with blind hatred for someone most Christians of all denominations respect. Hence they leave you to wallow in your confused speaking and move on to much more reasonable talk.

I myself don't know where to start,
I would ask though, when you began on Paul, where you talking about Saul or is it the Paul we all know. I don't need to quote anything, we all know about sails conversion. And maybe that buttresses the op write up because he didn't have to sit and decide 'I want to be born-again'. No, he was converted (made spiritually minded) while on his way to commit more sins.
You can't be a Christian and use only different parts of the bible in a twisted way to make your point. Be charitable and dont lead others into sin. The bible is whole and can't be used in isolation. Why ignore Paul after his conversion and refer only to his life as Saul?

Going on to Peter, your quote of the bible just simply buttresses the op. No matter what you think or say, He has been saved, whether you like it or not, say as much as you like that Peter never at one time decided to be converted to God, na your wahala. You waste unnecessary time and energy on falsehood. The quote you gave said 'Jesus said, I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail'. Peter did not believe he would sin, he thought he was 'immune', but God reminded him that it is not just by faith. In all Peter was human and could sin like all of us but he was Christian (a disciple of God), but his faith would always remain strong, no matter how much you bang your head against the wall, his faith would not fail. Hence he could repent and become a better person and from there realise that he is not perfect and strive to be perfect. And in his striving to be perfect, realise what other disciples are going through and strengthen them not to loose hope. Hence here, we see God reminding Peter that he will be the rock by which God shall buil his church.

May God help us all, that we don't willfully deceive ourselves and in that way scandalize others leading them into sin. Amen

Crownvillar:


@ Adjoviomole,

You mention in number 2 that the root of sin is removed through sanctification of the heart. Does this mean the person now attains "sinless perfection"?

The desire and will to sin is removed, but the person can still go back into sin, tru negligence, and carelessness. If you want to remain a born again you ,you will, and if u want to go back into sin, you will. Temptations will come but the word of God is always der, because that is our sword of the spirit.

SHALOM!

. EXODUS 20:16.

16. "Thou shalt not bear False Witness
against thy Neighbour."

I like to believe that I am always careful not to make mistakes, and falsely accuse innocent persons.

Therefore I try to make sure of my facts, and back up my claims with evidence.

A thing which you seem incapable of doing.

Somebody said: "YOU CANNOT PROVE A LIE."

Evidence can be fabricated against someone- but the fabrications leave evidence of their own, which can be traced, so that the entire Truth eventually comes out, just as YAHSHUA threatened will always be the case.

. LUKE 12:1-5.

IN the mean time, when there were gathered together
an innumerable multitude of people,
insomuch that they trode one upon another,
he began to say unto his Disciples first of all,
"Beware ye of the Leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
2. "For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed;
neither hid, that shall not be known.
3. "Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness
shall be heard in the light;
and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets
shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
4. "And I say unto you my Friends,

'BE NOT AFRAID OF THEM
THAT KILL THE BODY,
AND AFTER THAT HAVE
NO MORE THAT THEY CAN DO.'

5. "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear:

'FEAR HIM,
WHICH AFTER HE HATH KILLED
HATH POWER
TO CAST INTO HELL;'
YEA, I SAY UNTO YOU,

'FEAR HIM.' "

I do fear God, as Lord Yahshua Commanded, therefore, I substantiate my claims with Evidence.

If my Evidence is wrong, it should be simple, even very easy to demonstrate.

But if my Points are irrefutable, your only recourse can be to use indirect slurs and innuendo, because you dare not come out INTO THE LIGHT, where everyone can see what is what, and what is not.

. JOHN 3:14-21.

14. "And as Moses lifted up
the Serpent in the wilderness,
even so must
the Son of man be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved the World,
that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not
His Son into the World
to condemn the World;
but that the World
through him might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth on him
is not condemned:
but he that believeth not
is condemned already,
because he hath not believed
in the Name of the only begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,

'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'

20. "For every one that doeth Evil
hateth the Light,
neither cometh to The Light,
lest his deeds should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth cometh to The Light,
that his deeds may be made manifest,
that they are wrought in God."

I AM A BORN AGAIN, FULL-GOSPEL, PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIAN, UNAFFILIATED WITH ANY FORM OF ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY.

Whom do YOU represent?

You do not say.

Therefore, you represent some Hidden Agenda that most no one else may realize.

I find your rant consistent with JESUIT UNDERCOVER TACTICS.

Dontintin:
Wow, i am surprised none has replied this guy, well I can understand why,

Are you surprised that no one has replied me, or do you understand why no one has replied me?

Which is it?

It cannot be both.

The reason why is very simple: these "dumb mules" do not have God.

If they had God, they would have volumes to say, whether positive in my favour, or negatively against themselves.

. MATTHEW 12:16-20.

16. Behold, I send you forth as Sheep
in the midst of Wolves:
be ye therefore Wise as Serpents,
and harmless as Doves.
17. "But Beware of Men:
for they will deliver you up to the Councils,
and they will scourge you in their Synagogues;
18. "And ye shall be brought
before Governors and Kings for my sake,
for a Testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19. But when they deliver you up,
take no thought how or what ye shall speak:
for it shall be given you
in that same hour what ye shall speak.
20. "For it is not ye that speak,
but The Spirit of your Father
Which speaketh in you."

WHEN YOU HAVE NO GOD INSIDE YOU, OF COURSE YOU WILL BE DUMBFOUNDED, AS A SUPPOSED SPRING, BUT WITHOUT WATER.

. JOHN 7:37-39.

37. In the last day, that great Day of the Feast,
Jesus stood and cried, saying,
"If any man thirst,
let him come unto me,
and drink.
38. "He that believeth on me,
as the Scripture hath said,

'OUT OF HIS BELLY SHALL FLOW
RIVERS OF LIVING WATER.' "

39. [But this spake he of The Spirit,
which they that believe on him should receive:
for The Holy Ghost was not yet given;
because that Jesus was not yet glorified.]

Your write up is a confused twisting of bible passages to express your belief.

AH, GOOD!

We have a Starting Point!

It appears to you that "I CONFUSEDLY TWIST BIBLE PASSAGES TO EXPRESS MY BELIEF."

What is the thing to do?

What did YAHSHUA COMMAND?

Not "suggest," nor "vaguely hint," but UNEQUIVOCALLY COMMAND?

. MATTHEW 18:15-20.

15. "Moreover if thy Brother shall trespass against thee,
go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone:
if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy Brother.
16. "But if he will not hear thee,
then take with thee one or two more,

'THAT IN THE MOUTH
OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES
EVERY WORD MAY BE ESTABLISHED.'

17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them,
tell it unto the Church:
but if he neglect to hear the Church,
let him be unto thee as an Heathen man and a publican.
18. "Verily I say unto you,

'WHATSOEVER YE
SHALL BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER
YE SHALL LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'

19. "Again I say unto you,

'THAT IF TWO OF YOU
SHALL AGREE ON EARTH
AS TOUCHING ANY THING
THAT THEY SHALL ASK,
IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM
OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'

20. "For where two or three
are gathered together in my Name,
there am I in the midst of them."

If you do not do what Yahshua Commanded, you are not a Disciple of his.

People can't even begin to say this is where I start to tackle all you have said.

That is a somewhat incoherent statement to make.

What "people" are you talking about. Who cares what they say? TELL THE TRUTH YOURSELF!

In Nigeria, it is said:

"WHEN TREES FALL ON TREES,
THE TOPMOST MUST BE REMOVED FIRST.

And it is pretty obvious you speak with blind hatred for someone most Christians of all denominations respect.

One of the psychological rhetorical tricks to discredit a messenger, is to claim that he has AN EVIL EMOTIONAL STATE.

Everything he therefore says can be disregarded, this tactic demands, because he said it in an unlawful emotional state.

. 1^st CORINTHIANS 13:1-2.

THOUGH I speak with the Tongues
of Men and of Angels,
and have not Charity,
I am become as sounding brass,
or a tinkling cymbal.
2. And though I have the Gift of Prophecy,
and understand All Mysteries,
and All Knowledge;
and though I have All Faith,
so that I could remove mountains,
and have not Charity, I am nothing.

THE NOVICE CHRISTIAN WILL BE GREATLY IMPRESSED BY PAUL, ONLY IF THEY ARE IGNORANT OF TWO FACTS:

(1) PAUL SUPPRESSED THE BIBLE HIS WHOLE MINISTRY.

. GALATIANS 5:1-4.

STAND fast therefore in the Liberty
wherewith Christ hath made us Free,
and be not entangled again
with the Yoke of Bondage.
2. Behold, I Paul say unto you,

“THAT IF YE BE CIRCUMCISED,
CHRIST SHALL PROFIT YOU NOTHING.”

3. For I testify again to every man that is Circumcised,

“THAT HE IS A DEBTOR
TO DO THE WHOLE LAW.”

PAUL WAS PART OF THE WICKED CONSPIRACY TO BAN GENTILE CHRISTIANS FROM LEARNING THE OLD TESTAMENT IN ACTS 15.

. MATTHEW 28:16-20.

16. Then the Eleven Disciples
went away into Galilee,
into a mountain
where Jesus had appointed them.
17. And when they saw him,
they worshipped him:
but some doubted.
18. And Jesus came
and spake unto them, saying,
"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations,
baptizing them
in The Name of the Father,
and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever
I have Commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto The End of The World."
Amen.

PAUL DID NOT TEACH YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS THAT HE TAUGHT THE DISCIPLES.

He rejected everything they tried to teach him.

This is very important in Judaism: if you teach anything, the Jews will want to know who your RABBI was.

If it were someone who had been discredited in the past, obviously, your doctrine would be rejected.

. GALATIANS 1:11-12.

11. But I certify you, Brethren,
that the Gospel which was preached of me
is not after Man.
12. For I neither received it of Man,
neither was I taught it,
but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

THEREFORE, PAUL COULD NEVER ALLOW A SITUATION WHERE HE HAD TO ADMIT THAT SOME OTHER MAN HAD BEEN HIS MASTER.

. MATTHEW 24:14.

14. "And THIS GOSPEL of The Kingdom
shall be preached in all the World
for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall The End come."

. MATTHEW 24:35.

35. "Heaven and Earth shall pass away,
but my Words shall not pass away."

1^st CORINTHIANS 13 is set before Novice Christians as the standard of AGAPE, that is, LOVE- whereas, in Reality, it is the exact opposite.

. 1^st JOHN 5:3.

3. For THIS is The Love of God,

"THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS:"

and His Commandments are not grievous.

THE CORRECT DEFINITION OF "LOVE" is "THE KEEPING OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS."

This is a very important Secret of Organized Christianity.

Organized Christianity deliberately withholds the fact that the Ancient Greek Language the only authentic NEW TESTAMENT is based on- that of the KING JAMES VERSION- has TWELVE DIFFERENT WORDS that the English lazily translated as "LOVE."

If that were not bad enough- that it is NEVER indicated WHICH of ELEVEN TYPES OF LOVE The New Testament is talking about- Organized Christianity deliberately lets its followers THINK that when the New Testament says "LOVE," that it means "EROS:" Romantic Love.

They deliberately mislead sinful people into thinking that the type of love they are familiar with, and more or less understand, is the type of "LOVE" that GOD has for Humans.

The desire to overlook faults, and shirk one's duty in reprimanding and punishing Sins.

The insane desire for Sexual Identification Bonding.

CHRISTIAN HOMOSEXUALS claim that they are merely enacting God's Commandment by Yahshua to love one another.

Ex-Bishop ALBERTO RIVERA, the JESUIT Defector, revealed Roman Catholicism taught him during his priesthood training, that Homosexual "Love" is the "Love of Christ."

[See: ALBERTO, by Jack T. Chick.]

The one type of "love" Organized Christianity misleads people to think The Bible stands for is not in The New Testament.

[See my Blog: LOVE: DISAMBIGUATION AND CLARIFICATION.

PAUL FORBADE GENTILES TO USE THE LAW, because they would find THIS:

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD."

PAUL USED TERMS AND TEACHINGS THAT PEOPLE WHO KNEW THE LAW WOULD KNOW WERE TOTAL GARBAGE, BUT PEOPLE WHO DID NOT KNOW THE TORAH WOULD THINK WERE WONDERFULLY PIOUS AND SPIRITUAL.

That is CURSING THE DEAF.

All

Hence they leave you to wallow in your confused speaking and move on to much more reasonable talk.

IS THAT WHAT YAHSHUA TAUGHT BRETHREN TO DO?

. THE FOUR LEVELS OF PERCEPTION.

4. DIFFERENTIATION: the intelligent ability to perceive
the differences between similar things.
3. ASSOCIATION: the intelligent ability to perceive
the similarities between different things.
2. IDENTIFICATION: the insane inability to perceive
the differences between different things.
1. DISSOCIATION: the insane inability to perceive
the similarities between similar things.
0. DEATH: the inability to perceive anything at all.


[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

THIS DOCTRINE- a practical application of THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER- shows how "confusion" comes about.

By failing to Differentiate and Associate where appropriate and necessary, and by falling into Identification and Dissociation, where inappropriate and unhelpful, "confusion" BECOMES POSSIBLE.

I myself don't know where to start,

THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WORK FOR GOD:

. JOHN 3:34-36.

34. "For he whom God hath sent speaketh the Words of God:
for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
35. "The Father loveth the Son,
and hath given all things into his hand.
36. "He that believeth on the Son hath Everlasting Life:
and he that believeth not the Son shall not see Life;
but The Wrath of God abideth on him."

YOU HAVE NEVER PREACHED THE REAL GOSPEL BEFORE- THEREFORE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE ENTRANCE-POINT IS!

. JOHN 10:1-2.

"Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'HE THAT ENTERETH NOT BY THE DOOR
INTO THE SHEEPFOLD,
BUT CLIMBETH UP
SOME OTHER WAY,
THE SAME IS
A THIEF AND A ROBBER.' "

SHALOM!

. EXODUS 20:16.

16. "Thou shalt not bear False Witness
against thy Neighbour."

I like to believe that I am always careful not to make mistakes, and falsely accuse innocent persons.

Therefore I try to make sure of my facts, and back up my claims with evidence.

A thing which you seem incapable of doing.

Somebody said: "YOU CANNOT PROVE A LIE."

Evidence can be fabricated against someone- but the fabrications leave evidence of their own, which can be traced, so that the entire Truth eventually comes out, just as YAHSHUA threatened will always be the case.

. LUKE 12:1-5.

IN the mean time, when there were gathered together
an innumerable multitude of people,
insomuch that they trode one upon another,
he began to say unto his Disciples first of all,
"Beware ye of the Leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
2. "For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed;
neither hid, that shall not be known.
3. "Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness
shall be heard in the light;
and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets
shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
4. "And I say unto you my Friends,

'BE NOT AFRAID OF THEM
THAT KILL THE BODY,
AND AFTER THAT HAVE
NO MORE THAT THEY CAN DO.'

5. "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear:

'FEAR HIM,
WHICH AFTER HE HATH KILLED
HATH POWER
TO CAST INTO HELL;'
YEA, I SAY UNTO YOU,

'FEAR HIM.' "

I do fear God, as Lord Yahshua Commanded, therefore, I substantiate my claims with Evidence.

If my Evidence is wrong, it should be simple, even very easy to demonstrate.

But if my Points are irrefutable, your only recourse can be to use indirect slurs and innuendo, because you dare not come out INTO THE LIGHT, where everyone can see what is what, and what is not.

Dontintin:
Wow, i am surprised none has replied this guy, well I can understand why,

I would ask though, when you began on Paul, where you talking about Saul or is it the Paul we all know.

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "SAUL" AND "PAUL."

SAUL: the OPEN Pharisee never believed Yahshua's Teachings.

PAUL: the UNDERCOVER Pharisee never believed Yahshua's Teachings.

I don't need to quote anything, we all know about sails conversion.

I assume you are talking about "SAUL." Pay attention to detail.

. JOHN 14:21-27.

21. "He that hath my Commandments, and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."
22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot,
"Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"
23. Jesus answered and said unto him,
"If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear is not mine,
but The Father's which sent me.
25. "These things have I spoken unto you,
being (yet) present with you.
26. "But The Comforter, (which is) The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father will send in my Name,
He shall teach you all things,
and bring all things to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have said unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."

YAHSHUA DOES NOT MANIFEST TO SINNERS.

If he COULD manifest to SAUL, why did he WAIT until ALL the ORIGINAL BRETHREN who were WILLING to PREACH THE TRUE GOSPEL were DEAD BY HIS HAND?

. 1st CORINTHIANS 15:3-9.

3. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received,
how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures;
4. And that he was buried, and that he rose again
the third day according to the Scriptures:
5. And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6. After that, he was seen
of above five hundred Brethren at once;
of whom the greater part remain unto this present,
but some are fallen asleep.
7. After that, he was seen of James;
then of all the Apostles.
8. And last of all he was seen of me also,
as of one born out of due time.
9. For I am the least of the Apostles,
that am not meet to be called an Apostle,
because I persecuted The Church of God.

THERE WERE FIVE HUNDRED BRETHREN WHO ALL SAW YAHSHUA AFTER HIS RESURRECTION AT ONCE.

What happened to them?

How does ONLY PAUL mention them?

He answers this himself:

. ACTS 22:1-5.

“MEN, brethren, and fathers,
hear ye my defence
which I make now unto you.
2. [And when they heard
that he spake in the Hebrew Tongue to them,
they kept the more silence: and he saith,]
3. "I am verily a man which am a Jew,
born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia,
yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel,
and taught according to the perfect manner
of The Law of the Fathers,
and was zealous toward God,
as ye all are this day.
4. "And I persecuted this Way unto the Death,
binding and delivering into prisons
both men and women.
5. "As also the High Priest doth bear me witness,
and all the estate of the Elders:
from whom also I received
letters unto the Brethren,
and went to Damascus,
to bring them which were there
bound unto Jerusalem,
for to be punished."

WHAT KIND OF "PUNISHMENT" WERE THOSE WHOM SAUL/PAUL HAULED TO JERUSALEM LIKE CRIMINALS AND ANIMALS?

Do you EVER think of these INNOCENT Believers, who were being "PERSECUTED TO THE DEATH," just because they were EYEWITNESSES of Yahshua's Resurrection? Of course not! ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY does NOT want you to THINK about these people- otherwise you would realize that there was NO WAY that SAUL could EVER be "SAVED:" unless HE REWROTE The Rules!

. ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things contrary
to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the Saints did I shut up in prison,
having received authority from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft in every synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them even unto strange cities."

PAUL ATTEMPTED TO CHANGE THE REQUIREMENTS OF SALVATION FROM OBEYING YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS TO MERELY BELIEVING THAT HE HAD ARISEN FROM THE DEAD, AND CALLING HIM LORD.

The 500 Brethren were ALL DEAD- literally, or "SPIRITUALLY," at least.

Those who were allowed to live- if there were any- and there is NO REASON to believe that there were- surely swore OATHS to the Sanhedrin Council, never to Preach Yahshua's Teachings as the condition for their being allowed to live.

This is all ignored by organized Christianity.

Therefore, Atheists NOW say that "THERE IS NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE THAT YAHSHUA EVER EXISTED."

That is because EVERYBODY who tried to PUBLICIZE The Gospel was SUMMARILY ROUNDED UP and KILLED.

The Atheists say: "IF JESUS COULD MANIFEST TO PAUL, WHY CAN'T HE MANIFEST TO ME?"

The Followers of Paul have no answer to this, because their Faith is based upon a LIE.

And maybe that buttresses the op write up because he didn't have to sit and decide 'I want to be born-again'.

There are NO EXCEPTIONS to God's Rules!

. MARK 1:14-15.

14. Now after that John was put in prison,
Jesus came into Galilee,
preaching The Gospel of The Kingdom of God,
15. And saying,
"The time is fulfilled,
and The Kingdom of God is at hand:
repent ye, and believe The Gospel."

THE ENTRANCE-POINT IS REPENTANCE.

Paul never repented of his Wicked Works, but, as Yahshua said that the Pharisees did- JUSTIFIED HIMSELF, even going so far as to say that THE LAW MADE HIM TO SIN.

No, he was converted (made spiritually minded) while on his way to commit more sins.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THE CONVERSION EVENT EVER HAPPENED.

Paul does not name a single person who was with him.

This is a man familiar with COURT PROCEDURE, and the producing of WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE.

ANANIAS, the man who gave him his "IN" into the Church is another suspicious character.

. ACTS 22:11-13.

11. "And when I could not see
for the Glory of that Light,
being led by the hand of them
that were with me,
I came into Damascus.
12. "And one Ananias,
a devout man according to The Law,
having a good report
of all the Jews which dwelt there,
13. "Came unto me, and stood,
and said unto me,
"Brother Saul, receive thy sight."
And the same hour I looked up upon him.

THOSE SUPERFICIAL CHRISTIANS WHO DO NOT KNOW AND PRACTICE YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS WILL NOT SEE ANY INCONSISTENCY IN PAUL'S STORY. Those who do Yahshua's Teachings will know that if ANANIAS were a CHRISTIAN, it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for him to have "HAD A GOOD REPORT OF THE JEWS AT DAMASCUS."

YAHSHUA would not have had "A GOOD REPORT OF ALL THE JEWS THAT DWELT AT DAMASCUS."

. MATTHEW 12:30.

30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.”

. LUKE 6:20-26.

20. And he lifted up his eyes on his Disciples,
and said,
"Blessed be ye Poor: for yours is
The Kingdom of God.
21. "Blessed are ye that Hunger now:
for ye shall be filled.
Blessed are ye that Weep now:
for ye shall laugh.
22. "Blessed are ye,
when men shall hate you,
and when they shall separate you
from their company,
and shall reproach you,
and cast out your name as Evil,
for the Son of Man's sake.
23. "Rejoice ye in that Day,
and leap for joy:
for, behold,
your Reward is Great in Heaven:
for in the like manner
did their fathers unto the Prophets.
24. "But woe unto you that are Rich!
For ye have received your Consolation.
25. "Woe unto you that are Full!
For ye shall Hunger.
Woe unto you that Laugh now!
For ye shall Mourn and Weep.
26. "Woe unto you,
when all men shall speak well of you!
For so did their fathers
to the False Prophets."

. JOHN 9:22.

22. These words spake his parents,
because they feared the Jews:
for the Jews had agreed already,
that if any man did confess that he was Christ,
he should be put out of the Synagogue.

IF ANANIAS WERE A REAL CHRISTIAN, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN EXPELLED FROM THE SYNAGOGUES AT DAMASCUS.

Those Jews who supported The Gospel would have been persecuted along with him, and those Jews who followed the JERUSALEM MANDATE would have been persecuting them.

It is impossible that Ananias could have had a "GOD REPORT OF ALL THE JEWS," unless he were a TRAITOR- or FICTIONAL CHARACTER whom Paul just made up.

You can't be a Christian and use only different parts of the bible in a twisted way to make your point.

That is what YAHSHUA was accused of doing.

But YOU cannot mention any Scriptures at all!

Be charitable and dont lead others into sin.

HOW DO YOU LEAD PEOPLE INTO RIGHTEOUSNESS?

Is it not by presenting THE WORD OF GOD?

You do not present any, but use PSYCHOLOGY AND RHETORIC to accuse and slander me!

The bible is whole and can't be used in isolation.

If The Bible is whole, how can anyone use it in isolation?

[trying to use *TELEPATHY* here, and INTUIT what you are TRYING to say.]

You mean that every Book of The Bible is equal to every other Book, so that there is NO CONTRADICTION IN THE BIBLE?

*BBBZZZZTTT!* WRONG ANSWER!

The Doctrine of "NO-CONTRADICTION-IN-THE-BIBLE!" was used by the Oyinbos to turn their people INSANE, and PRESUME that ONLY people with SPECIAL TRAINING could understand The Bible!

Namely, the Roman Catholic Priests.

After them, the Protestant Vicars and Pastors- because there was NO WAY they were going give up THAT Power!

. DEUTERONOMY 22:11.

11. Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts
as of woollen and linen together.

. DEUTERONOMY 22:9-11.

9. Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds:
lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown,
and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.
10. Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.
11. Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts
as of woollen and linen together.

PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT POWER LEVELS MUST NOT BE MADE TO WORK TOGETHER.

There are EIGHT LIFE FORCES- SEVEN OF HEAVEN, AND ONE OF EARTH.

There are FOUR SPIRITUAL ENERGY CATEGORIES within a Level of Life Force: UNJUSTNESS, FILTHINESS, RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND HOLINESS.

Therefore The Word of God cannot be applied to all people equally, because they cannot PERCEIVE nor ACT equally.

. THE FOUR LEVELS OF PERCEPTION.

4. DIFFERENTIATION: the intelligent ability to perceive
the differences between similar things.
3. ASSOCIATION: the intelligent ability to perceive
the similarities between different things.
2. IDENTIFICATION: the insane inability to perceive
the differences between different things.
1. DISSOCIATION: the insane inability to perceive
the similarities between similar things.
0. DEATH: the inability to perceive anything at all.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

This is THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER applied to the Problems of PERCEPTION.

You can see why it is impossible to understand certain people, and why other people cannot understand you.

If you do not have the Life Force of a particular Heaven, or greater, you cannot enter it, nor access its resources- including Its Spirit of God.

. REVELATION 5:6.

6. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the Throne
and of the four Beasts, and in the midst of the Elders,
stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven Horns and seven Eyes,
Which are The Seven Spirits of God
sent forth into all the Earth.

THE SPIRITS OF GOD ONE HAS CAN BE IDENTIFIED BY THEIR DISTINCT LEVELS OF WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING.

. 2^nd PETER 1:5-9.

5. And beside this,
giving all diligence,
add to your FAITH VIRTUE;
and to Virtue KNOWLEDGE;
6. And to Knowledge TEMPERANCE;
and to Temperance PATIENCE;
and to Patience GODLINESS;
7. And to Godliness BROTHERLY KINDNESS;
and to Brotherly Kindness CHARITY.
8. For if these things
be in you, and abound,
they make you that
ye shall neither be
barren nor unfruitful
in the Knowledge of
our Lord Jesus Christ.
9. But he that lacketh
these things is blind,
and cannot see afar off,
and hath forgotten
that he was purged
from his Old Sins.

Why ignore Paul after his conversion and refer only to his life as Saul?

I DON'T KNOW WHY SOMEONE WOULD IGNORE PAUL AFTER HIS CONVERSION, AND ONLY REFER TO HIS LIFE AS SAUL.

Are you accusing ME of doing that?

Of course you are.

Will you show examples of what you accuse me of?

Of course not.

You are a liar and a coward.

I have exposed his false Conversion and demonstrated the falsity of his Doctrine.

But your tactic is to try to divert attention from that, and commit an abdominal homina-homina (sic) attack against me.

PATHETIC.

Going on to Peter, your quote of the bible just simply buttresses the op.

CAN YOU SHOW HOW?

Of course not.

That would be coming into The Light.

Vermin do not do so well in light.

[quote]No matter what you think or say, He has been saved, whether you like it or not, say as much as you like that Peter never at one time decided to be converted to God, na your wahala.[/quote

I DO NOT CARE WHETHER PETER DECIDED TO BE CONVERTED TO GOD OR NOT.

The only relevance is that HE WAS NEVER CONVERTED.

. MATTHEW 13:10-19.

10. And the Disciples came, and said unto him,
"Why speakest thou unto them
in Parables?"
11. He answered and said unto them,
"Because it is given unto you to know
The Mysteries of
The Kingdom of Heaven,
but to them it is not given.
12. "For whosoever hath,
to him shall be given,
and he shall have
more abundance:
but whosoever hath not,
from him shall be taken away
even that he hath.
13. "Therefore speak I to them in Parables:
because they seeing see not;
and hearing they hear not,
neither do they understand.
14. "And in them is fulfilled
The Prophecy of Esaias, which saith,

'BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR,
AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND;
AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE,
AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:
15. 'FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART IS WAXED GROSS,
AND THEIR EARS ARE DULL OF HEARING,
AND THEIR EYES THEY HAVE CLOSED;
LEST AT ANY TIME
THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES
AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND
WITH THEIR HEART,
AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED,
AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.'

16. "But Blessed are your eyes,
for they see:
and your ears,
for they hear.
17. "For verily I say unto you,

'THAT MANY PROPHETS
AND RIGHTEOUS MEN HAVE DESIRED
TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.'

18 “Hear ye therefore The Parable of the Sower.

19. 'WHEN ANY ONE HEARETH
THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT NOT,
THEN COMETH THE WICKED ONE,
AND CATCHETH AWAY
THAT WHICH WAS SOWN IN HIS HEART.
THIS IS HE WHICH RECEIVED SEED
BY THE WAY SIDE.' "

[To be Continued.]

Because they do not know what being born-again truly means

@OAROLOYE
Thanks for plagiarizing from the net for tales on how Paul is a false teacher of the gospel of Yahoshuah.


Now because from this article has it claimed that Paul's words are lies and Peter wasn't converted(though that verse is speaking of his dwindling faith because of the troubles coming their way which the Christ showed them), I will remove the books from both men or their students.

I will be brief by only showing a few things;
The rich young man's meet with The Christ.

Mat 19:16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, "Good Teacher, WHAT GOOD THING shall I do that I may have ETERNAL LIFE?" Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. BUT IF YOU WANT TO ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS." Mat 19:18 He said to Him, "WHICH ONES?" Jesus said, " 'You shall not murder,' 'You shall not commit adultery,' 'You shall not steal,' 'You shall not bear false witness,' Mat 19:19 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' Mat 19:20 The young man said to Him, "ALL these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack? " Mat 19:21 Jesus said to him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

Mat 19:23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Mat 19:24 "And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the of God." Mat 19:25 When His disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, "WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED?" Mat 19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is IMPOSSIBLE, but with God all things are possible."

Points to note that what Paul was saying concerning Christ's salvation though disagreed with by James(brother of Yahosuah) are these;
1: Keep the commandments to gain eternal life.

2: Man claims he has done so up till that point.

3: Yahosuah says- it is hard for the rich to enter(even though the law has been kept).

4: Disciples ask; WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED. These people are obviously not of the rich class, probably have kept the Law and yet they never took that statement to mean poor ones who keep the Law.

Revaluation 7:4-15;
Verse 4: Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL were sealed.

Verse 9: Rev 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a GREAT MULTITUDE WHICH NO ONE COULD NUMBER, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

Verse 14: Rev 7:14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Now you said Paul kill all the 12 and none was available to oppose his teaching, Well there was Peter, and John.

Also, because some disciples didn't approve of Paul because of his past deeds doesn't make his call false. They didn't approve of a man healing in the name Yahosuah because he wasn't part of the group. They didn't approve of the children coming around them. They were men.

Yes the teachers of the Law(Pharisees) made addition for rites and rituals, but they also took hold of the Law and Judgment, they sure didn't keep it. But hear this;
Joh 5:45 "Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you--Moses, IN WHOM YOU TRUST. Joh 5:46 "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. Joh 5:47 "But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

I end with this; if Paul was lying about grace for salvation, and you say his logic was used to interpret the word, well James who based it on works also used logic to interpret the word.

@OAROLOYE...one more thing. I doubt if your are a Christian because this is one defense used by Muslims to claim Christianity and the Bible we have as false.

SHALOM!

Dontintin:
Wow, i am surprised none has replied this guy, well I can understand why,

THE DISCIPLES ALL FORFEITED THEIR KINGDOM OF GOD POWERS WHEN THEY ALLOWED THEMSELVES TO DIE- BURYING THE LORD'S MONEY IN THE EARTH. Not one of them lived up to expectations. They sold out.

. MATTHEW 18:21-35.

21. Then came Peter to him, and said,
"Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me,
and I forgive him? till seven times?"
22. Jesus saith unto him,
"I say not unto thee,

'UNTIL SEVEN TIMES:'
BUT, 'UNTIL SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN.'

23. "Therefore is The Kingdom of Heaven likened
unto a certain king,
which would take account of his servants.
24. "And when he had begun to reckon,
one was brought unto him,
which owed him ten thousand talents.
25. "But forasmuch as he had not to pay,
his lord commanded him to be sold,
and his wife, and children,
and all that he had,
and payment to be made.
26. "The servant therefore fell down,
and worshipped him, saying,

'LORD, HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME,
AND I WILL PAY THEE ALL.'

27. "Then the lord of that servant
was moved with compassion,
and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28. "But the same servant went out,
and found one of his fellowservants,
which owed him an hundred pence:
and he laid hands on him,
and took him by the throat, saying,

'PAY ME THAT THOU OWEST.'

29. "And his fellowservant fell down at his feet,
and besought him, saying,

'HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME,
AND I WILL PAY THEE ALL.'

30. "And he would not:
but went and cast him into prison,
till he should pay the debt.
31. "So when his fellowservants
saw what was done,
they were very sorry,
and came and told unto their lord
all that was done.
32. "Then his lord,
after that he had called him,
said unto him,

'O THOU WICKED SERVANT,
I FORGAVE THEE ALL THAT DEBT,
BECAUSE THOU DESIREDST ME:
33. 'SHOULDEST NOT THOU ALSO
HAVE HAD COMPASSION
ON THY FELLOWSERVANT,
EVEN AS I HAD PITY ON THEE?'

34. "And his lord was wroth,
and delivered him to the Tormentors,
till he should pay all
that was due unto him.
35. "So likewise shall my Heavenly Father
do also unto you,
if ye from your hearts
forgive not every one
his brother their trespasses."

YAHSHUA OBVIOUSLY CHOSE HIS DISCIPLES FOR THEIR STUPIDITY.

The Heavenly Elders is a Post for Eternity- why should it go to people who were just lucky to be born at the same time Yahshua was?

Therefore, Yahshua was instructed by God to choose weak men, who would let the great Blessings he bestowed upon them go to their heads, and throw everything away, so that only those worthy enough to recover everything they tried to keep to themselves only, but failed, and lost everything, would be the ones to sit with YAHSHUA in HEAVEN, in his Throne, in GOD'S Throne- whereas those who ate with him, drank with him, and lived with him will be rejected and fall away gnashing their teeth.

LET ME SHOW YOU THE GREATEST ATROCITY IN THE BIBLE!

. ACTS 5:1-11.

BUT a certain man named Ananias,
with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2. And kept back part of the price,
his wife also being privy to it,
and brought a certain part,
and laid it at the Apostles' feet.
3. But Peter said,
"Ananias, why hath Satan
filled thine heart to lie to The Holy Ghost,
and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4. "Whiles it remained,
was it not thine own?
And after it was sold,
was it not in thine own power?
Why hast thou conceived this thing
in thine heart?
Thou hast not lied unto men,
but unto God."
5. And Ananias hearing these words fell down,
and gave up the ghost:
and great fear came on all them
that heard these things.
6. And the young men arose,
wound him up,
and carried him out,
and buried him.
7. And it was about the space
of three hours after,
when his wife,
not knowing what was done,
came in.
8. And Peter answered unto her,
“Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much?”
And she said,
“Yea, for so much.”
9. Then Peter said unto her,
“How is it that ye have agreed together
to tempt The Spirit of the Lord?
Behold, the feet of them
which have buried thy husband
are at the door,
and shall carry thee out.”
10. Then fell she down straightway at his feet,
and yielded up the ghost:
and the young men came in,
and found her dead,
and, carrying her forth,
buried her by her husband.
11. And great fear came upon all the Church,
and upon as many as heard these things.

THE GUILT OF ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA WAS NEVER PROVEN.

People dropping dead is no proof of an accusation.

. LUKE 9:51-56.[/u]

51. And it came to pass,
when the time was come
that he should be received up,
he stedfastly set his face
to go to Jerusalem,
52. And sent messengers before his face:
and they went,
and entered into a village of the Samaritans,
to make ready for him.
53. And they did not receive him,
because his face was as though
he would go to Jerusalem.
54. And when his Disciples James and John saw this, they said,
"Lord, wilt thou that we command Fire to come down from Heaven,
and consume them, even as Elias did?"
55. But he turned, and rebuked them, and said,
"Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56. "For the Son of Man is not come to destroy men's lives,
but to save them."
And they went to another village.

THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THE DEATHS OF ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA.

If lying to God is a Capital Sin, PETER AND ALL THE TEN DISCIPLES committed the SAME SIN.

. MARK 14:27-31.

27. And Jesus saith unto them,
"All ye shall be offended
because of me this night:
for it is written,

'I WILL SMITE THE SHEPHERD,
AND THE SHEEP
SHALL BE SCATTERED.'

28. "But after that I am risen,
I will go before you into Galilee."29. But Peter said unto him,
"Although all shall be offended,
yet will not I."

30. And Jesus saith unto him,
"Verily I say unto thee,

[i]'THAT THIS DAY, EVEN IN THIS NIGHT,
BEFORE THE COCK CROW TWICE,
THOU SHALT DENY ME THRICE.' "

31. But he spake the more vehemently,
"If I should die with thee,
I will not deny thee in any wise."
Likewise also said they all.

ALL OF THE DISCIPLES "LIED TO GOD" THE NIGHT OF YAHSHUA'S ARREST.

He gave them another chance.

Please not, that one of the Negatives Bible-Bashers use on us is the Historical Fact that no GOSPELS appear until AFTER the DEATHS of PETER and PAUL- about 60AD.

They could not have told the Early Church the full Truth about how their Messiah met his end.

This was another motive for their BETRAYAL of the 500 Brethren who all saw YAHSHUA together after his Resurrection, and were determined to spread The truth about what he had taught- and perhaps other things they would not have wanted to get out.

You waste unnecessary time and energy on falsehood.

I know that YOUR CHURCH- presuming that you have one- DOES NOT WANT THE TRUTH TO GET OUT.

You have accused me of LYING, but you have not SHOWN that, at any point.

The quote you gave said 'Jesus said, I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail'.

PETER HAD THE POWER OF FAITH.

That is USELESS in Heaven.

FAITH is an EARTHLY Power.

. 2^nd CORINTHIANS 5:7.[/\u]

7. [For we walk by Faith, not by sight:]

PAUL'S TEACHINGS ARE LIKE LEADING A CONVOY ON A 250Km/hour expressway- ONLY HE WAS LEADING THEM AT 25Km/hour!

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SEE.

We are not supposed to be BLIND.

FAITH is BLIND.

. [u]MATTHEW 5:8.

8. "Blessed are the pure in heart:
for they shall see God."

THERE ARE SEVEN LEVELS OF VISION, BY WHICH WE ARE TO SEE GOD AND THE KINGDOM OF GOD:

. 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:7-9.

7. And at that time Hanani the Seer
came to Asa king of Judah,
and said unto him,
"Because thou hast relied on the king of Syria,
and not relied on The LORD thy God,
therefore is the host of the king of Syria
escaped out of thine hand.
8. "Were not the Ethiopians and the Lubims a huge host,
with very many chariots and horsemen?
yet, because thou didst rely on The LORD,
He delivered them into thine hand.
9 "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout the whole Earth,
to shew Himself strong in the behalf of them
whose heart is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars."

. ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised the Day of small things?
for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro through the whole Earth.

THE LEAST OF THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD COMMANDS VIRTUE: THE FIRST HEAVEN LIFE FORCE.

This is THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL.

If one has this, they cannot Sin.

Peter did not believe he would sin, he thought he was 'immune', but God reminded him that it is not just by faith.

YOU THINK YOU CAN READ PETER'S MIND?

What you think he thought is irrelevant; only what he and his colleagues did is relevant.

They banned the GENTILE CHRISTIANS from The Bible all his life, and taught them nothing but mere crumbs.

In all Peter was human and could sin like all of us but he was Christian (a disciple of God), but his faith would always remain strong, no matter how much you bang your head against the wall, his faith would not fail.

PETER WAS NOT HUMAN LIKE ALL OF US.

For example, ORIGEN ADAMANTIUS, the man who compiled The Roman Catholic Bible.

This man determined which books should/should not be included in The Bible.

To ensure his PURITY for the task, he obeyed one of Yahshua's Commandments none of the Disciples is known for having done.

. MATTHEW 19:3-12.

3. The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him,
and saying unto him,
"Is it lawful for a man
to put away his wife for every cause?"
4. And he answered and said unto them,
"Have ye not read, that He which made them
at The Beginning made them Male and Female,
5. And said,

'FOR THIS CAUSE SHALL A MAN
LEAVE FATHER AND MOTHER,
AND SHALL CLEAVE TO HIS WIFE:
AND THEY TWAIN SHALL BE ONE FLESH?'

6. "Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh.
What therefore God hath joined together,
let not man put asunder."
7. They say unto him,
"Why did Moses then command
to give a writing of divorcement,
and to put her away?"
8. He saith unto them,
"Moses because of the hardness of your hearts
suffered you to put away your wives:
but From The Beginning it was not so.
9. "And I say unto you,

'WHOSOEVER SHALL PUT AWAY HIS WIFE,
EXCEPT IT BE FOR FORNICATION,
AND SHALL MARRY ANOTHER,
COMMITTETH ADULTERY:
AND WHOSO MARRIETH HER
WHICH IS PUT AWAY
DOTH COMMIT ADULTERY.' "

10. His Disciples say unto him,
"If the case of the man be so with his wife,
it is not good to marry."
11. But he said unto them,
"All men cannot receive this saying,
save they to whom it is given.
12. "For there are some eunuchs,
which were so born from their mother's womb:
and there are some Eunuchs,
which were made Eunuchs of men:
and there be Eunuchs,
which have made themselves eunuchs
for The Kingdom of Heaven's sake.
He that is able to receive it,
let him receive it."

ORIGEN ADAMANTIUS CASTRATED HIMSELF, SO THAT HE COULD BE MORE RIGHTEOUS THAN ANYONE ELSE.

Being Human like wicked people like yourself does not enable Sinlessness.

Being Human like ORIGEN accomplished that.

. MATTHEW 18:7-9.

7. "Woe unto the World because of offences!
for it must needs be that offences come;
but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!"
8. "Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee,
cut them off, and cast them from thee:
it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed,
rather than having two hands or two feet
to be cast into Everlasting Fire.
9. "And if thine eye offend thee,
pluck it out, and cast it from thee:
it is better for thee to enter into Life with one eye,
rather than having two eyes to be cast into Hell Fire."

IN PRACTICE, WHEN YOU MAKE THE RESOLUTION TO CUT OFF A BODY PART, RATHER THAN SIN WITH IT ANY MORE, YOU LOSE ALL DESIRE TO SIN WITH IT ANY MORE.

That Origen castrated himself tells ME that he must have BOASTED about doing it beforehand- so that he could not back down.

These are, however, the type of Sacrifices that REAL Christians endure, in order to ESCAPE The Kingdom of Darkness.

You have never made those sorts f Sacrifices before.

Hence he could repent and become a better person and from there realise that he is not perfect and strive to be perfect. And in his striving to be perfect, realise what other disciples are going through and strengthen them not to loose hope.

YAHSHUA TOLD PETER TO DO SEVERAL THINGS, WHICH HE DID NOT.

If the Disciples had raised the Dead, as Yahshua had sent them to, how come they all thought that The Gospel was FINISHED when YAHSHUA DIED?

Why did they not raise him from the dead themselves?

Hence here, we see God reminding Peter that he will be the rock by which God shall buil his church.

THIS PROVES THAT YOU ARE A ROMAN CATHOLIC AGENT OR ASSET.

An Agent would be educated enough to prove his case with Scriptures.

You do not possess that level of intelligence nor understanding, so you can only "speak like a man who knows more than he says," as the Roman Catholic Jerusalem Bible puts it.

. MATTHEW 16:13-20.

13. When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his Disciples, saying,
"Whom do men say that I the Son of Man am?"
14. And they said,
"Some say that thou art John the Baptist:
some, Elias; and others, Jeremias,
or one of the Prophets."
15. He saith unto them,
"But whom say ye that I am?"
16. And Simon Peter answered and said,
"Thou art the Christ, the Son of The Living God."
17. And Jesus answered and said unto him,
"Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee,
but my Father Which is in Heaven.
18. "And I say also unto thee,

'THAT THOU ART PETER,
AND UPON THIS ROCK
I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH;
AND THE GATES OF HELL
SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.

19. "And I will give unto thee The Keys of The Kingdom of Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven."
20. Then charged he his Disciples that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus the Christ.
21. From that time forth began Jesus
to shew unto his Disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem,
and suffer many things of the Elders
and Chief Priests and Scribes,
and be killed,
and be raised again the third day.
22. Then Peter took him,
and began to rebuke him, saying,
"Be it far from thee, Lord:
this shall not be unto thee."
23. But he turned, and said unto Peter,
"Get thee behind me, Satan:
thou art an offence unto me:
for thou savourest not
the things that be of God,
but those that be of men."
24. Then said Jesus unto his Disciples,
"If any man will come after me,
let him deny himself,
and take up his cross,
and follow me.
25. "For whosoever will save his life
shall lose it:
and whosoever will lose his life
for my sake
shall find it."

YAHSHUA INDULGED IN SOME WORDPLAY, NOTING THAT PETER/CEPHAS WAS A STONE- BUT THAT HE WAS GOING TO BUILD HIS CHURCH ON THE ROCK THAT HE HAD BROUGHT.

The REVELATION WORD that Yahshua is THE CHRIST and THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD is the ROCK.

There are FOUR GRADES of Words of God:

4. STONE.
3. MEAT.
2. BREAD.
1. MILK.

Corresponding to the Four Spiritual Energy Categories:

4. HOLINESS.
3. RIGHTEOUSNESS.
2. FILTHINESS.
1. UNJUSTNESS.

Corresponding to the Four Children of God classes:

4. FATHERS.
3. YOUNG MEN.
2. LITTLE CHILDREN.
1. BABES-IN-CHRIST.

Corresponding to the Four Levels of Perception:

4. DIFFERENTIATION.
3. ASSOCIATION.
2. IDENTIFICATION.
1. DISSOCIATION.

Corresponding to the Four Universe-Managing Tools:

4. CREATION/ANNIHILATION.
3. TRANSFORMATION.
2. HARMONY.
1. BRUTE FORCE.

[See my Blog: THE SIGN OF FOUR.]

Those who attain Holiness get to UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, AND CAN USE EVERYTHING.

May God help us all, that we don't willfully deceive ourselves and in that way scandalize others leading them into sin. Amen

Am I included in the Prayer for God to Help us all?

Of course not; it is a mere hypocritical pronouncement on your part.

God will not help YOU, because you have rejected His Son's Teachings, and take the Apostles as gods whom you pray to to get you what you know YAHSHUA has DENIED YOU. You have already deceived yourself, and sold your Soul to the great Enemy of The Gospel.

. JOHN 8:30-36.

30. As he spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
then are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you Free."
33. They answered him,
"We be Abraham's Seed,
and were never in bondage to any man:
how sayest thou,

'YE SHALL BE MADE FREE?' "

34. Jesus answered them,
"Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'WHOSOEVER COMMITTETH SIN
IS THE SERVANT OF SIN.
35. 'AND THE SERVANT ABIDETH
NOT IN THE HOUSE FOR EVER:
BUT THE SON ABIDETH EVER.'

36. "If the Son therefore shall make you free,
ye shall be free indeed."

FREEDOM IS ACHIEVED BY CONTINUING IN YAHSHUA'S WORD ALONE.

No one else's Word has that Power.

If you were of God, you would have told us that yourself.

ifenes:
Because they do not know what being born-again truly means

"BORN AGAIN," in Northern Aramaic, means: "TO CHANGE ONE'S THOUGHTS AND HABITS."

Nicodemus spoke Southern Aramaic, and hence did not understand Jesus.

GEORGE LAMSA'S FOOTNOTE ON JOHN 3:3,5 in his PESHITTA Translation.

This misunderstanding enabled the vast exaggeration of the NEW BIRTH Experience- facilitated by PAUL'S Exaggerations.

. 2^nd CORINTHIANS 5:16-21.

16. Wherefore henceforth
know we no man after the Flesh:
yea, though we have
known Christ after the Flesh,
yet now henceforth
know we him no more.
17. Therefore if any man be in Christ,
he is a New Creature:
Old Things are passed away;
behold, All Things are become New.
18. And All Things are of God,
Who hath Reconciled us to Himself
by Jesus Christ,
and hath given to us
The Ministry of Reconciliation;
19. To wit,

"THAT GOD WAS IN CHRIST,
RECONCILING THE WORLD UNTO HIMSELF,
NOT IMPUTING THEIR TRESPASSES UNTO THEM;
AND HATH COMMITTED UNTO US
THE WORD OF RECONCILIATION."

20. Now then we are Ambassadors for Christ,
as though God did beseech you by us:
we pray you in Christ's stead,
be ye Reconciled to God.
21. For he hath made him
to be Sin for us, who knew no Sin;
that we might be made
The Righteousness of God in him.

ACCORDING TO PAUL, AS SOON AS YOU BELIEVE YAHSHUA ROSE FROM THE DEAD, AND CALL HIM LORD- YOU BECOME A PEER OF GOD.

. EPHESIANS 2:1-10.

AND you hath He quickened,
who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2. Wherein in time past ye walked
according to the Course of this World,
according to the Prince of the Power of the Air,
the spirit that now worketh in the Children of Disobedience:
3. Among whom also we all had our conversation
in times past in the Lusts of our Flesh,
fulfilling the Desires of the Flesh and of the Mind;
and were by Nature the Children of Wrath, even as others.
4. But God, who is Rich in Mercy,
for His Great Love wherewith He Loved us,
5. Even when we were dead in Sins,
hath quickened us together with Christ,
[by Grace ye are saved;]
6. And hath raised us up together,
and made us sit together in Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus:
7. That in the Ages to come he might shew
the exceeding Riches of His Grace in His Kindness
toward us through Christ Jesus.
8. For by grace are ye saved through Faith;
and that not of yourselves:
it is The Gift of God:
9. Not of Works,
lest any man should boast.
10. For we are His Workmanship,
created in Christ Jesus unto Good Works,
which God hath before ordained
that we should Walk in Them.

PAUL, HERE, SEDUCES THE CHRISTIAN INTO VIOLATING A BASIC COMMANDMENT OF GOD BY YAHSHUA: HUMILITY.

. LUKE 14:7-11.

7. And he put forth a Parable
to those which were bidden,
when he marked how
they chose out
the Chief Rooms;
saying unto them.
8. "When thou art bidden
of any man to a wedding,
sit not down in The Highest Room;
lest a more honourable man
than thou be bidden of him;
9. "And he that bade
thee and him come
and say to thee,

'GIVE THIS MAN PLACE;'

and thou begin with shame
to take The Lowest Room.
10. "But when thou art bidden,
go and sit down in The Lowest Room;
that when he that bade thee cometh,
he may say unto thee,

'FRIEND, GO UP HIGHER:'

then shalt thou have worship
in the presence of them
that sit at meat with thee.
11. "For whosoever exalteth himself
shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself
shall be exalted."

PAUL SAID: "NOW YOU CAN SAY THAT YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD, AND YOU ARE SITTING IN HEAVEN WITH GOD AND JESUS!

That is BLASPHEMY to the Jews, and that is how PAUL KILLED the first Christians whom he arrested and brought to Jerusalem.

THE PHARISEES ACCUSED YAHSHUA of claiming equality with God.

He never, ever did that.

. JOHN 14:28.

28. "Ye have heard how I said unto you,

'I GO AWAY, AND COME AGAIN UNTO YOU.'

If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said,

'I GO UNTO THE FATHER:'

for my Father is greater than I."

BUT PAUL SAID:

. PHILIPPIANS 2:5-8.

5. Let this mind be in you,
which was also in Christ Jesus:
6. Who, being in the form of God,
thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7. But made himself of no reputation,
and took upon him the form of a servant,
and was made in the likeness of men:
8. And being found in fashion as a man,
he humbled himself,
and became obedient unto Death,
even the Death of the Cross.

THEREFORE, PAUL COULD SAY THAT HAVING BEEN CATAPULTED INTO HEAVEN WITH YAHSHUA, HE TOO WAS A "MATE" OF GOD.

This was MORE about EXALTING HIMSELF than the Christian- but those who fell for it now tried to approach God on that basis of IMAGINARY RIGHTEOUSNESS AND EQUALITY- and it DIDN'T WORK!

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples,
2. Saying,
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do; but do not ye after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father, Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master, even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land to make one proselyte,
and when he is made, ye make him
twofold more the Child of Hell than yourselves."

YAHSHUA WARNED THAT THE PHARISEES ALWAYS TRY TO PUT THEMSELVES IN THE HIGHEST CHAIR.

It does not get higher than The Throne of God.

SHALOM!

dueal:
@OAROLOYE...one more thing. I doubt if your are a Christian because this is one defense used by Muslims to claim Christianity and the Bible we have as false.

Is that how you judge?

If somebody sees something wrong, and a Muslim sees something wrong, that somebody must be a Muslim too- because only Muslims have eyes?

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY?

You couldn't even be bothered to specify your accusation?

What is it that makes you so arrogant?

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Is that how you judge?

If somebody sees something wrong, and a Muslim sees something wrong, that somebody must be a Muslim too- because only Muslims have eyes?

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY?

You couldn't even be bothered to specify your accusation?

What is it that makes you so arrogant?

No arrogance in what I said, neither did I make any confirmation to my observation. Simple statement. Muslims who seek to tarnish what we have as records use the tactics you are using.

1: Paul is false.
2: Yahosuah doesn't require worship.
3: Not much can be trusted in the documentation of the Bible.

Life teaches, if it walks, talks, smells, and jumps like a rat, it most likely is a rat.

dueal:
@OAROLOYE
Thanks for plagiarizing from the net for tales on how Paul is a false teacher of the gospel of Yahoshuah.


Now because from this article has it claimed that Paul's words are lies and Peter wasn't converted(though that verse is speaking of his dwindling faith because of the troubles coming their way which the Christ showed them), I will remove the books from both men or their students.

I will be brief by only showing a few things;
The rich young man's meet with The Christ.

Mat 19:16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, "Good Teacher, WHAT GOOD THING shall I do that I may have ETERNAL LIFE?" Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. BUT IF YOU WANT TO ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS." Mat 19:18 He said to Him, "WHICH ONES?" Jesus said, " 'You shall not murder,' 'You shall not commit adultery,' 'You shall not steal,' 'You shall not bear false witness,' Mat 19:19 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' Mat 19:20 The young man said to Him, "ALL these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack? " Mat 19:21 Jesus said to him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

Mat 19:23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Mat 19:24 "And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the of God." Mat 19:25 When His disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, "WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED?" Mat 19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is IMPOSSIBLE, but with God all things are possible."

Points to note that what Paul was saying concerning Christ's salvation though disagreed with by James(brother of Yahosuah) are these;
1: Keep the commandments to gain eternal life.

2: Man claims he has done so up till that point.

3: Yahosuah says- it is hard for the rich to enter(even though the law has been kept).

4: Disciples ask; WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED. These people are obviously not of the rich class, probably have kept the Law and yet they never took that statement to mean poor ones who keep the Law.

Revaluation 7:4-15;
Verse 4: Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL were sealed.

Verse 9: Rev 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a GREAT MULTITUDE WHICH NO ONE COULD NUMBER, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

Verse 14: Rev 7:14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

Now you said Paul killed all the 12 and none was available to oppose his teaching, Well there was Peter, and John.

Also, because some disciples didn't approve of Paul because of his past deeds doesn't make his call false. They didn't approve of a man healing in the name Yahosuah because he wasn't part of the group. They didn't approve of the children coming around them. They were men.

Yes the teachers of the Law(Pharisees) made addition for rites and rituals, but they also took hold of the Law and Judgment, they sure didn't keep it. But hear this;
Joh 5:45 "Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you--Moses, IN WHOM YOU TRUST. Joh 5:46 "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. Joh 5:47 "But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

I end with this; if Paul was lying about grace for salvation, and you say his logic was used to interpret the word, well James who based it on works also used logic to interpret the word.

In case you missed this

SHALOM!

jayloyexten:
Please this is very important, I urge you read it, it changed my thinking about the sin ish.

The question then is, how can we become “born of God?” We are considered dead until we become born of God.

"CONSIDERED" by WHOM?

How can ONLY the Children of God have Life?

Can't SERVANTS of God, who are NOT WORTHY to be SONS or DAUGHTERS of God HAVE LIFE?

According to YOU, "NO!"

Remember that John 3:16 says that “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes on him shall not perish but have everlasting LIFE”

That is NOT what JOHN 3:16 says.

What sort of Christian misquotes JOHN 3:16?

. JOHN 3:14-21.

14. "And as Moses lifted up
the Serpent in the wilderness,
even so must
the Son of man be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved the World,
that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not
His Son into the World
to condemn the World;
but that the World
through him might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth on him
is not condemned:
but he that believeth not
is condemned already,
because he hath not believed
in the Name of the only begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,

'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'

20. "For every one that doeth Evil
hateth the Light,
neither cometh to The Light,
lest his deeds should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth cometh to The Light,
that his deeds may be made manifest,
that they are wrought in God."

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "BELIEVING IN JESUS" AND "BELIEVING ON JESUS?"

The difference between MATTHEW 7:21-23 and THIS verse:

. JOHN 14:12.

12. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO;'

and greater works than these shall he do;
because I go unto my Father."

Also remember that when Adam and Eve fell, they lost eternal LIFE.

WRONG!

Adam and Eve did not have ETERNAL LIFE.

Therefore they needed THE TREE OF LIFE to be IMMORTAL.

If God had already given them ETERNAL LIFE, THE TREE OF LIFE would have been a useless redundancy.

And so Jesus died, and the Bible says that he became the first born, and we are sons.

"THE BIBLE SAYS" is not a reliable statement, because many things "THE BIBLE SAYS" are LIES.

The Bible does not say that "WE" are sons.

WE INTERRUPT THIS BRUTAL, MERCILESS BEATING TO BRING YOU...

LONE RANGER and TONTO were riding down a trail when their road was blocks by 100 SIOUX coming from the North!
They looked to the their left, and 70 Cheyenne were riding in on them from the West!
They turned right and there were forty Pikuni trotting up to them form the East!
They looked back, and 50 Choctaw fell in across the trail from the South!

"*Hmph!*" said the Lone Ranger to Tonto. "Looks like we're really in for it, today, old friend!"
Tonto looked at him askance.

"What do you mean, "WE," Paleface?"

"WE" NOW CONTINUE WITH THE HANDOVER OF JAYLOYEXTEN'S ASS TO HIM IN NEATLY CUT SLICES...

SONSHIP IS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE WHO MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS.

On our BEST DAYS, we are NOT qualified to call ourselves "CHILDREN OF GOD," without YAHWEH GOD FIRST giving us PERMISSION in Person!

. LUKE 14:7-11.

7. And he put forth a Parable
to those which were bidden,
when he marked how
they chose out
the Chief Rooms;
saying unto them.
8. "When thou art bidden
of any man to a wedding,
sit not down in The Highest Room;
lest a more honourable man
than thou be bidden of him;
9. "And he that bade
thee and him come
and say to thee,

'GIVE THIS MAN PLACE;'

and thou begin with shame
to take The Lowest Room.
10. "But when thou art bidden,
go and sit down in The Lowest Room;
that when he that bade thee cometh,
he may say unto thee,

'FRIEND, GO UP HIGHER:'

then shalt thou have worship
in the presence of them
that sit at meat with thee.
11. "For whosoever exalteth himself
shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself
shall be exalted."

SOME DELUSIONAL, EGOTISTS AND LIARS ARE SURELY GOING TO BOAST THAT THEY ARE CHILDREN OF GOD- THAT IS NO EXCUSE TO EMULATE THEM.

The Mega-Church Preachers teach people that they and their Followers are all CHILDREN OF GOD- I don't believe that that is because they care about whether their FOLLOWERS believe themselves to be Children of God- but rather because they need their followers to believe that THEY are Children of God.

Therefore PAUL told his gullible victims that THEY ALL HAD Blasphemous Attributes together- whereas he only needed them to believe that HE had said Attributes.

He had failed to destroy the Church by minimizing The Gospel, therefore he now tried EXAGGERATING The Gospel.

So Jesus came to give us eternal LIFE, through sonship. So to enter into heaven we must be “born of God”. Now that LIFE of sonship that qualifies us for heaven can only be attained by one means. See below

Romans 8: 6 says, “For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is LIFE and peace” Hence the equation has been solved to be born of God is to be spiritually minded.

PAUL INTRODUCES A PHARISEE CONCEPT OF "CARNAL" MIND AND "SPIRITUAL" MIND.

There is no "CARNAL" Mind and "SPIRITUAL" Mind- there is just MIND.

Could this be where the Oyinbos learned their DIVIDE AND RULE Strategy from?

. MARK 7:14-23.

14. And when he had called
all the people unto him,
he said unto them,
"Hearken unto me
every one of you,
and understand:
15. "There is nothing from without a man,
that entering into him can defile him:
but the things which come out of him,
those are they that defile the man.
16. "If any man have ears to hear,
let him hear."
17. And when he was entered
into the house from the people,
his Disciples asked him concerning the Parable.
18. And he saith unto them,
"Are ye so without understanding also?
Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing
from without entereth into the man,
it cannot defile him;
19. "Because it entereth not into his heart,
but into the belly,
and goeth out into the draught,
purging all meats?"
20 And he said,
"That which cometh out of the man,
that defileth the man.
21. "For from within,
out of the heart of men,
proceed evil thoughts,
adulteries, fornications,
murders,
22. "Thefts, covetousness,
wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness,
an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23. "All these evil things
come from within,
and defile the man."

ONCE PAUL HAS MADE YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE TWO MINDS- ONE OF WHICH YOU CANNOT CONTROL, AND THE OTHER USELESS TO CONTROL YOUR FLESH- HE HAS JUSTIFIED YOUR SINFULNESS, BUT FORCES YOU TO LOOK TO HIM FOR FURTHER FALSE GUIDANCE.

Now victory over sin comes by being spiritually minded and not just born again,

PAUL SAID that HE had FAILED at that.

those are the people that cannot sin, because they are not of the flesh.

YAHSHUA WAS DEFINITELY 'OF THE FLESH."

That is what PAUL and THE PHARISEES all agreed upon, and ACCUSED him of.

. LUKE 7:33-34.

33. “For John the Baptist came
neither eating bread nor drinking wine;
and ye say, He hath a Devil.
34. “The Son of Man is come
eating and drinking; and ye say,

'BEHOLD A GLUTTONOUS MAN,
AND A WINEBIBBER,
A FRIEND OF PUBLICANS
AND SINNERS!' ”

I HAVE MET "CHRISTIANS" WHO WERE TOO IMMATURE AND HYPOCRITICAL TO BELIEVE THAT YAHSHUA COULD HAVE DRUNK ALCOHOL.

They invented a concept whereby "WINE" only means "GRAPE-JUICE."

How did they think that grape Juice was extracted: "BINATONE JUICER?"

The method of Juice Extraction (with a WINEPRESS FLOOR- people MARCHING on the grapes with their FEET!) and the STORAGE of the juice, meant that IT FERMENTED FAST.

YAHSHUA DRANK ALCOHOLIC WINE- AND THAT IS TOO MUCH FOR SOME PEOPLE TO SWALLOW!

(Sorry- could not resist.)

What it means is that sin becomes repulsive to them, not that they are completely immune to sin, or if they sin it would not be counted against them.

The Pharisees hated Yahshua because Sin was not repulsive to him.

And so the Bible says in Romans 12, “be ye transformed (into sons of God) by the renewing of your mind” so you can truly overcome the works of the flesh. Our mind is renewed by the word of God.

Now you see why you may still sin even after salvation, because the spirit and the flesh are in constant contention.

NO, I DO NOT.

I do see why YOU would Sin; your belief that you have been "SAVED" is a mere DELUSION on your part.

You were DECEIVED, because you HATED what YAHSHUA said, but PAUL told you bullshit you WANTED to hear.

If your THOUGHTS and HABITS have been CHANGED, there is no "CONTENTION."

Your FLESH will do what your HEART tells it to do.

SIN comes from your HEART, not from your FLESH.

Your FLESH is just MEST- it cannot WILL anything- it is mere MATTER, ENERGY, SPACE, and TIME.

You still Sin because you have not replaced your SIN-DIRECTIVES with THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.

You still Sin, because you STILL HATE GOD.

You still HATE GOD, because you NEVER CHOSE LIFE.

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this Day against you,
that I have set before you Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,
THAT BOTH THOU
AND THY SEED MAY LIVE:
20. THAT THOU MAYEST
LOVE THE LORD THY GOD,
AND THAT THOU MAYEST
OBEY HIS VOICE,
AND THAT THOU MAYEST
CLEAVE UNTO HIM:
FOR HE IS THY LIFE,
AND THE LENGTH OF THY DAYS:
THAT THOU MAYEST
DWELL IN THE LAND
WHICH THE LORD SWARE
UNTO THY FATHERS,
TO ABRAHAM,
TO ISAAC,
AND TO JACOB,
TO GIVE THEM.

But from today’s text, we are saved by hope, and everything we hope for may not be seen at the moment. But the power over sin has been given you.

BUT NOT TO YOU- YOU WILL STILL SIN, AND DELUDE YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE "SAVED."

There is no "SAVED BY HOPE."

You are saved by OBEDIENCE OF YAHSHUA, or NOT AT ALL.

You must refuse to let your failures deter you; if you fall today you will not fall tomorrow.

Let your faith be strong in Gods saving grace.

Run back to God, it does not mean you are not born again.(1 John 2:1)

Be transformed to become born of God by reading the word

and walking by the spirit,

These vague Man-Made Doctrines will have Christians running in circles, going nowhere, their whole life.

giving no room for the flesh.

That is a REALLY good one!

How do you do that?

OBVIOUSLY, by PRAYING every time you feel TEMPTATION.

Or busying oneself with some other Righteous Activity.

NO, SORRY... THESE ARE ONLY HALF-MEASURES, WHICH, IF PURSUED SERIOUSLY, WILL LEAD TO NERVOUS BREAKDOWN OR BURNOUT.

Reducing one to a STATE OF RELIGIOUS ENSLAVEMENT to the Preacher who gave you this fake advice!

You want to know THE REAL WAY?

DIANETICS!

DIANETICS was based on MATTHEW 18.

That is NOT what L. RON HUBBARD said, of course- only a nearly THETA-CLEARED Christian, similar to myself, would have NOTICED.

Basically, what Christians need to do is AURICULAR CONFESSION, similar to what ROMAN CATHOLICISM practices.

Only, instead of someone learning all your Secrets- which the Church will later use against you, that Brethren you confessed to becoming your OWNER- instead YOUR CONFESSOR must also CONFESS TO YOU every Sin they ever DID in their LIFE, that is needed to find THE PRIME SIN.

The one that caused you to START SINNING.

To BEGIN THE HABIT of YIELDING to SATAN.

You Hypocrites invariably avoid mentioning that THAT is what you DO: SELL OUT YAHSHUA for FAVOURS from THE DEVIL!

You could not SIN if you thought of it as being THAT, could you?

In this generation you need the infilling of the Holy Spirit

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

The rush of excitement that comes when you hear your Preacher's Voice?

When you participate in CHURCH ACTIVITIES?

That is a PSYCHOLOGICAL TRICK that was developed by a NOBEL PRIZE WINNER named IVAN PAVLOV.

He taught the Governments of the World that they could CONTROL THEIR CITIZENS with UNREALIZED PROMISES.

CONDITION them to FEEL PATRIOTIC, and GOVERNMENT SUPPORTIVE by INSTALLING MENTAL TRIGGERS.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5rXSjId0q4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi5R9WI6_w0

You cannot say that you have been delivered from the spirit of masturbation and you are still watching pornography! It will come back. Give no room for the flesh!

THERE IS NO "SPIRIT OF MASTURBATION."

You people INVENT all these FAKE DELIVERANCES that DO NOT WORK- so that, when they FAIL, your victims come back yo you for another deliverance.

MASTURBATION is caused by IGNORANCE.

The SEXUAL ORGANS secrete substances which, when they reach a certain level, can be used for SEX, or SIMULATED SEX, or for SPIRITUAL, MENTAL, and BODILY advancement. When you deplete these substances through Sex, you never see those advancements.

MASTURBATION IS YOUR PROBLEM, ISN'T IT?

That is why you have never attained the level of Mind where you attain control over your habits!

Romans 8:23 says, Paul speaking, “…Even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption to wit (to become born of God), the redemption of our body”

FOLLOW PAUL- AND YOU WILL "GROAN!"

His type of Hypocritical teacher leads into DEAD ENDS where you become STUCK in a QUAGMIRE OF INESCAPABLE HABITS that you NEVER gave up.

It is less easy to repent of MAN-MADE SINS- like Masturbation.

Repenting does not do anything- because there is no POWER there.

Salvation is faith. It is not giving excuses for sin;

Whereas you just got through giving excuses for your own Sins.

it is the hope that sin is defeated, even if it does not yet appear.

SEE what a LIAR you are!

Your method DOES NOT WORK- therefore, you tell people to EXPECT its RESULTS to "NOT APPEAR!"

But we know that once hope is perfected in us, then we are made perfect.

THAT STATEMENT IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

This is the pressing into perfection called sanctification; the total defeat of the flesh

WHICH YOU HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE, AND, ON THE COURSE YOU ARE ON, WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE IT.

With love,
08100093154

THERE IS NO "LOVE" HERE!

. 1^st JOHN 5:3.

3. For THIS is The Love of God,

"THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS:"

and His Commandments are not grievous.

THERE ARE ELEVEN DIFFERENT WORDS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, THAT THE OYINBO HYPOCRITES TRANSLATED "LOVE."

The one YOU believe in: EROS- Romantic Love- is NOT in the New Testament.

If you had had BIBLE LOVE, you would have OVERCOME THE FLESH, instead of "HOPING" to have overcome Sin one day.

SIN IS AN ACTION, NOT AN ENTITY.

PAUL was LYING when he said that SIN did THIS to him, or SIN did THAT to him.

He PAUL did those SINS- the hauling off the hundreds into thousands of innocent Christians, and collecting MONEY for each Christian delivered- "SIN" DID NOT DO THAT: PAUL DID THOSE THINGS.

. ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things contrary
to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the Saints did I shut up in prison,
having received authority from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft in every synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them even unto strange cities."

[CONTINUED!]

@OAROLOYE.

I've been trying to understand in summary what you are trying to get at. You move from one ideology to another, please summarise.

One thing I agree with you on is alot of Christian folk somehow think that accepting that Yahsuah drank alcoholic brew is somehow a bad thing. Which is in error.

So help me to make clear on what you are driving at. Maybe, you will learn something too.

SHALOM!

dueal:
@OAROLOYE.

I've been trying to understand in summary what you are trying to get at. You move from one ideology to another, please summarise.

So help me to make clear on what you are driving at. Maybe, you will learn something too.

THIS IS HOW YOU HAVE LIVED YOUR LIFE, IS IT NOT?

I've been trying to understand in summary what you are trying to get at. You move from one ideology to another, please summarise.

You are thinking incorrectly.

Perceiving incorrectly.

The Mind can process one's entire lifetime in twenty minutes.

This Ability is ESSENTIAL to AfterLife Survival.

If one does not have it, one's Soul will be DESTROYED upon Death.

Only those who can IMMEDIATELY run through their entire lifetime in TOTAL RECALL when their BODY has died will be ALLOWED to create their SPIRIT ENERGY BODY, which their Mind, Memories, and Personality will live in in the AfterLife.

[See my Blog: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE?]

WITH TOTAL RECALL the concept of "SUMMARIZATION" becomes ludicrous.

Say you are TEN years old (just saying, of course!) and you can condense those ten years into TWENTY MINUTES.

That is to say: 73 HOURS per SECOND?

That is how far the envelope can be pushed- for a TEN-YEAR OLD.

Therefore, why would you need a "summary?"

What is wrong with your mind, that you cannot run through everything that you have seen me write, and yourself come up with a summary?

THE SYSTEM THAT HAS CHAINED YOU TO SIN HAS IMPAIRED YOUR MIND- DELIBERATELY- WITHOUT WHICH THEY COULD NOT BIND YOU TO SIN.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



THIS IS HOW YOU HAVE LIVED YOUR LIFE, IS IT NOT?



You are thinking incorrectly.

Perceiving incorrectly.

The Mind can process one's entire lifetime in twenty minutes.

This Ability is ESSENTIAL to AfterLife Survival.

If one does not have it, one's Soul will be DESTROYED upon Death.

Only those who can IMMEDIATELY run through their entire lifetime in TOTAL RECALL when their BODY has died will be ALLOWED to create their SPIRIT ENERGY BODY, which their Mind, Memories, and Personality will live in in the AfterLife.

[See my Blog: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE?]

WITH TOTAL RECALL the concept of "SUMMARIZATION" becomes ludicrous.

Say you are TEN years old (just saying, of course!) and you can condense those ten years into TWENTY MINUTES.

That is to say: 73 HOURS per SECOND?

That is how far the envelope can be pushed- for a TEN-YEAR OLD.

Therefore, why would you need a "summary?"

What is wrong with your mind, that you cannot run through everything that you have seen me write, and yourself come up with a summary?

THE SYSTEM THAT HAS CHAINED YOU TO SIN HAS IMPAIRED YOUR MIND- DELIBERATELY- WITHOUT WHICH THEY COULD NOT BIND YOU TO SIN.

Still I ask again. IN SUMMARY YOU ARE SAYING WHAT?
Nothing is new here but they all do not fit into one whole.

You move from Egyptology, to Buddhism, to Christianity, and Judaism. Everyone can recall, we are structured that way, even a rat can recall.

I believe in few words. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

dueal:


Still I ask again. IN SUMMARY YOU ARE SAYING WHAT?
Nothing is new here but they all do not fit into one whole.

You move from Egyptology, to Buddhism, to Christianity, and Judaism. Everyone can recall, we are structured that way, even a rat can recall.

I believe in few words. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

You have nothing to say, because you are too simpleminded.

oaroloye:


You have nothing to say, because you are too simpleminded.

Whoever says he knows much yet cannot say what he has to say as simply as possible, frankly he has nothing to say.

Movingcoil:

You just confused Sabina

You right about Oaroloyes disgusting confusion.

Smart Nairaland readers have seen right through this sly CONMAN.

Oaroloye is a low level SATANIC ATHEIST poorly disguised as a Christian.

He has criminal intent, as he cruelly present a LIFELESS and FRAUDULENT INTERPRETATION OF THE HOLY BIBLE to deceive the masses.

He is suffering from clinical delusions and is obviously schizophrenic.. He also twist holy scriptures to prove that RAPE IS NOT A. SIN and also that it is NOT A SIN TO MURDER certain Christians.

THE DEMENTED OAROLOYE is a self confessed ATHEIST, but most smart ATHEISTS are avoiding his topics.

I have adressed this issue over and over again. There is nothing like born again Christains!!!

Being born-again has absolutely nothing to do with sinlessness. Rather being born-again, as Jesus Christ explained has instead to do with being born of water(God's New Law and agreement) and being Born of Spirit(of Eternal Life).

oluwakekz:
we are only save by grace,as long as you in this word ,grace is all we all need. You think you holly? Prove that, then you really are.

This is a lie though as Jesus Christ never said this throughout His entire Gospel.

zeb04:
■ are you saying a born again is different from a Christian. Can a born again sin? What makes a born again different from a christian? I am sorry if I am mixing it all up.

A Christin would be one subscribed to the religion of Christianity. Whereas a born-again is a sinner who has gained the necessary documents with which to enter into the Kingdom of God. Note that even on entry, he remains a sinner as entering into the Kingdom of God does not grant absolution from sins for the sinner.

jayloyexten:
■ A born again Christian can still sin. Yes. The victory over sin is walking by the spirit, it is hope and faith. [s]And our walk is perfected by reading the word constantly[/s], then we can overcome the flesh.

Much better!