Please I need explaining, am confused. Is jesus simply a Retelling of the Horus Mythology?

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The devil will always try to foil and fake the truth.

Perhaps this is the work of atheists to flaw the story of the blessed saviour.

Truth is power. See the following claims below and see the real truth behind them, afterwards use your tongue to count your teeth.

Claim: Horus was conceived by a virgin mother named Meri, and had a stepfather named Seb (Joseph)


Truth:
Horus was NOT conceived of a virgin. In fact, mural and textual evidence from Egypt indicates Isis (there is no evidence that “Meri” was ever part of her name) hovered over the erect penis (she created) of Osiris to conceive Horus.

While she may have been a virgin before the conception, she utilized Osiris’ penis to conceive. She later had another son with Osiris as well.

There is no evidence of three wise men as part of the Horus story at all. Seb was actually the “earth god”; He was not Horus’ earthly father.

Seb isnotthe equivalent of Joseph and, in most cases, Seb is described as Osiris’ father.


Claim:
Horus was born in a cave, his birth announced by an angel, heralded by a star and attended by shepherds.


Truth:
There is no reference to a cave or manger in the Egyptian birth story of Horus. In fact, none of these details are present in the ancient Egyptian stories of Horus. Horus was born in a swamp.

His birth was not heralded by an angel. There was no star.


Claim:

Horus attended a special rite of passage at the age of twelve and there is no data on the child from the age of 12 to 30.


Truth:

There is no continuous effort in the Horus mythology to account for all these years, so there are no real gaps in the chronology. Horus never taught in any temple at twelve (as did Jesus).


Claim:[b]

Horus was baptized in a river at the age of 30, and his baptizer was later beheaded.


[b]Truth:

Horus was never baptized. While conspiracy theorists often point to “Anup the Baptizer” (claiming he was later beheaded), there is no such person in Horus’ story.


Claim:

Horus had 12 disciples.


Truth:

Horus had only four disciples (called ‘Heru-Shemsu’), but at some point in his story there is reference to sixteen followers and a group of unnumbered followers who join Horus in battle (called ‘mesnui’).


Claim:

Horus performed miracles, exorcized demons, raised someone from the dead, and walked on water.


Truth:

Horus certainly performed miracles (he was, after all, described as a god). But there was no mention of exorcizing demons, raising people from the dead or walking on water.


Claim:

Horus was called “Iusa”, the “ever-becoming son” and the “Holy Child”.


Truth:

No one in Egyptian history was ever called “Iusa” (the word does not exist) nor was anyone called “Holy Child”.


Claim:

Horus delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, and his followers recounted his sayings. He was transfigured on the Mount.


Truth:

Horus never delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, nor was he transfigured.


Claim:

Horus was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and was resurrected.


Truth:

Horus is not reported to have died at all in the vast majority of Egyptian narratives. There is also no crucifixion story. Instead, Horus is usually described as eventually merging with Re (the Sun god) after which he “dies” and is “reborn” every day as the sun rises.

There is a parallel account describing Horus’ death and detailing how he was cast in pieces into the water, later fished out by a crocodile at Isis’ request.


Claim:

Horus was called “Way”, “the Truth the Light”, “Messiah”, “God’s Anointed Son”, “Son of Man”, “Good Shepherd”, “Lamb of God”, “Word made flesh”, “Word of Truth”, “the KRST” or “Anointed One”.

Truth:

None of these titles are in Egyptian history, but Horusiscalled by several names you might expect for any god in mythology: “Great God”, “Chief of the Powers”, “Master of Heaven”, and “Avenger of His Father”. Horus was not called “the Krst”. This word in Egyptian means “burial” (it wasn’t a title at all).

For more, goto Wikipedia and read about Horus; dont come here and post what you know next to nothing about.

Dreams come True eh? It's still a Double Miracle Jesus no vex.

Its a mixture of many myth depending on the Gospels U read take a look at this story of Dionysus

[b]Dionysus was the god of fertility and wine, later considered a patron of the arts. He created wine and spread the art of viticulture. He had a dual nature; on one hand, he brought joy and divine ecstasy; or he would bring brutal and blinding rage, thus reflecting the dual nature of wine. Dionysus and his followers could not be bound by fetters.

Dionysus was the son of Zeus and Semele, and he was the only god with a mortal parent. Zeus went to Semele in the night, unseen by human eyes, but could be felt as a divine presence. Semele was pleased to be the lover of a god, even though she did not know which one. Word soon got around and Hera quickly assumed who was responsible. She went to Semele in disguise and convinced her she should see her lover as he really was. When Zeus visited her again, she made him promise to grant her one wish. She went so far as to make him swear on the River Styx that he would grant her request. Zeus was madly in love and agreed. She then asked him to show her his true form. Zeus was unhappy knowing what was about to happen, but bound by his oath, he had no choice. He appeared in his true form and Semele was instantly burnt to a crisp by the sight of his glory. Zeus managed to rescue the fetal Dionysus and stitched him into his thigh until he would be ready to be born. His birth from Zeus conferred immortality upon him.

Hera, still jealous of Zeus' infidelity and the fact that Dionysus was alive, arranged for the Titans to kill him. The Titans ripped him to pieces; however, Rhea brought him back to life. After this, Zeus arranged for his protection and gave him to the mountain nymphs to be raised.

Dionysus wandered the world actively spreading his cult. He was accompanied by the Maenads, wild women, flush with wine, shoulders draped with a fawn skin, carrying rods tipped with pine cones. While other gods had temples to be worshipped at, the followers of Dionysus worshipped him in the woods. There, they might go into a state of ecstasy and madness, ripping apart and eating raw any animal they might come upon.

Dionysus was also one of the very few characters able to bring a dead person back from the underworld. Even though he had never seen Semele, he was concerned for her. Eventually, he journeyed into the underworld to find her. He faced down Thanatos and brought her back to Mount Olympus.

Dionysus became one of the most important gods in everyday life and was associated with several key concepts. One was rebirth after death; his dismemberment by the Titans and his return to life was symbolically echoed in viticulture, where the vines must be pruned back sharply, and then become dormant in winter for them to bear fruit. Another concept was that under the influence of wine, one could feel possessed by a greater power. Unlike other gods, Dionysus was not merely a god to be worshipped, but he was also present within his followers; at those times, a man would possess supernatural powers and was able for things he would not be able to do otherwise.

The festival for Dionysus was held in the spring when vines would start bearing leaves. It became one of the most important events of the year and its primary focal point was the theater. Most of the great Greek plays were initially written to be performed at the feast of Dionysus. All participants, writers, actors, spectators, were regarded as sacred servants of Dionysus during the festival.[/b]

so U know where they get their Divine inspiration from.

[b]After Dionysus reached adulthood, he decided to wander far and wide, including areas outside of Greece. At the places he visited, he taught people how to cultivate vines, and he initiated them in the mysteries of his cult.

On his way back to his homeplace, Thebes, however, he was spotted by pirates, to whom he appeared as a rich young man; he might even be the son of a king, and certainly looked like his family would pay a substantial amount for his safe return. Happy at their good luck, the pirates seized him and brought him aboard their ship. They then attempted to tie him to the mast, but the ropes simply would not hold. Whenever the rope touched his body, it just fell apart. Dionysus watched calmly, smiling. After many unsuccessful attempts, the helmsman realised that only a god would be responsible for this. He called out that the crew should free Dionysus and beg his forgiveness, but the captain mocked the helmsman as a fool and called for the crew to set sail. The crew raised the sail and caught the wind, but the ship did not move. Looking around, they saw the ship quickly becoming overgrown with vines that held it in place. Dionysus then changed himself into a lion and began to chase the crewmen. To escape, they leaped overboard, but as they did, they were changed to dolphins. Only the helmsman was spared of Dionysus' wrath.

On his passage through Thrace, he was insulted by King Lycurgus, who bitterly opposed his new religion. Initially, Dionysus retreated into the sea, but he returned, overpowered Lycurgus and imprisoned him in a rocky cave. Dionysus planned to let him reflect and learn from his mistakes. However, Zeus was enraged that a mortal man had insulted a god, so he blinded and then killed Lycurgus.

Dionysus eventually reached Thebes, which was ruled by his cousin Pentheus. However, Pentheus did not know of Dionysus. Dionysus was with a group of his followers, who were naturally singing and dancing loudly, flushed with wine. Pentheus disliked the loud strangers, and ordered his guards to imprison them all. He referred to their leader as a cheating sorcerer from Lydia. When he said this, the blind old prophet Teiresias, who was already dressed as one of Dionysus's followers, gave Pentheus a warning: "The man you reject is a new god. He is Semele's child, whom Zeus rescued. He, along with Demeter, are the greatest upon earth for men." Pentheus, seeing the strange garb Teiresias had on, laughed at him and ordered his guards to continue. The guards soon found out that the ropes fell apart, the latches did not hold, and that there was no way they could imprison Dionysus' followers; so, they brought Dionysus to Pentheus. Dionysus tried to explain at length his worship, but Pentheus listened only to his own anger and insulted Dionysus. Finally, Dionysus gave up and left Pentheus to his doom. Pentheus pursued Dionysus' followers up to the hills where they had fled after escaping from prison. Many of the local women including Pentheus' mother and sister had joined them there. Then, Dionysus appeared to his followers in his most terrible form and drove them mad. To them, Pentheus appeared to be a mountain lion. In a berserk rage they attacked him and Pentheus realised he had insulted a god and would die for it. His mother was the first to reach him, and ripped his head off, while the others tore off his limbs.[/b]

Mescopaul:
The devil will always try to foil and fake the truth.

Perhaps this is the work of atheists to flaw the story of the blessed saviour.

Truth is power. See the following claims below and see the real truth behind them, afterwards use your tongue to count your teeth.

Claim: Horus was conceived by a virgin mother named Meri, and had a stepfather named Seb (Joseph)


Truth:
Horus was NOT conceived of a virgin. In fact, mural and textual evidence from Egypt indicates Isis (there is no evidence that “Meri” was ever part of her name) hovered over the erect penis (she created) of Osiris to conceive Horus.

While she may have been a virgin before the conception, she utilized Osiris’ penis to conceive. She later had another son with Osiris as well.

There is no evidence of three wise men as part of the Horus story at all. Seb was actually the “earth god”; He was not Horus’ earthly father.

Seb isnotthe equivalent of Joseph and, in most cases, Seb is described as Osiris’ father.


Claim:
Horus was born in a cave, his birth announced by an angel, heralded by a star and attended by shepherds.


Truth:
There is no reference to a cave or manger in the Egyptian birth story of Horus. In fact, none of these details are present in the ancient Egyptian stories of Horus. Horus was born in a swamp.

His birth was not heralded by an angel. There was no star.


Claim:

Horus attended a special rite of passage at the age of twelve and there is no data on the child from the age of 12 to 30.


Truth:

There is no continuous effort in the Horus mythology to account for all these years, so there are no real gaps in the chronology. Horus never taught in any temple at twelve (as did Jesus).


Claim:[b]

Horus was baptized in a river at the age of 30, and his baptizer was later beheaded.


[b]Truth:

Horus was never baptized. While conspiracy theorists often point to “Anup the Baptizer” (claiming he was later beheaded), there is no such person in Horus’ story.


Claim:

Horus had 12 disciples.


Truth:

Horus had only four disciples (called ‘Heru-Shemsu’), but at some point in his story there is reference to sixteen followers and a group of unnumbered followers who join Horus in battle (called ‘mesnui’).


Claim:

Horus performed miracles, exorcized demons, raised someone from the dead, and walked on water.


Truth:

Horus certainly performed miracles (he was, after all, described as a god). But there was no mention of exorcizing demons, raising people from the dead or walking on water.


Claim:

Horus was called “Iusa”, the “ever-becoming son” and the “Holy Child”.


Truth:

No one in Egyptian history was ever called “Iusa” (the word does not exist) nor was anyone called “Holy Child”.


Claim:

Horus delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, and his followers recounted his sayings. He was transfigured on the Mount.


Truth:

Horus never delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, nor was he transfigured.















Claim:

Horus was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and was resurrected.


Truth:

Horus is not reported to have died at all in the vast majority of Egyptian narratives. There is also no crucifixion story. Instead, Horus is usually described as eventually merging with Re (the Sun god) after which he “dies” and is “reborn” every day as the sun rises.

There is a parallel account describing Horus’ death and detailing how he was cast in pieces into the water, later fished out by a crocodile at Isis’ request.


Claim:

Horus was called “Way”, “the Truth the Light”, “Messiah”, “God’s Anointed Son”, “Son of Man”, “Good Shepherd”, “Lamb of God”, “Word made flesh”, “Word of Truth”, “the KRST” or “Anointed One”.

Truth:

None of these titles are in Egyptian history, but Horusiscalled by several names you might expect for any god in mythology: “Great God”, “Chief of the Powers”, “Master of Heaven”, and “Avenger of His Father”. Horus was not called “the Krst”. This word in Egyptian means “burial” (it wasn’t a title at all).

For more, goto Wikipedia and read about Horus; dont come here and post what you know next to nothing about.

I acknowledged the fact that I needed explanation.. And you did just that, you should have stopped there instead of ending it with rudeness. Namaste

izublingz:

I acknowledged the fact that I needed explanation.. And you did just that, you should have stopped there instead of ending it with rudeness. Namaste

please any one with half a brain knows christianity isn't original.
"The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual - the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating" - were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions."
."Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense,and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans."
we've all accepted that the gods of the Egyptians, Aztecs and romans were not real despite their various acts of belief, so what is different from today's religion.

izublingz:

I acknowledged the fact that I needed explanation.. And you did just that, you should have stopped there instead of ending it with rudeness. Namaste

I'm sorry for that sir.

Lennycool:

please any one with half a brain knows christianity isn't original.
"The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual - the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating" - were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions."
."Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense,and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans."
we've all accepted that the gods of the Egyptians, Aztecs and romans were not real despite their various acts of belief, so what is different from today's religion.

Friend don't mix up issues here. The Roman Catholic worship is a different thing from the issue raised about Horus and Jesus.

If you're trying debase Christianity from Roman Catholic's pagan worship, then you've honestly missed the mark.

Everyone knows that TRC is just a pagan worship that was christianised for the acceptability of the masses. We know the lies.
We know the Mary and Jesus they claimed to worship is actually the Semiramis and Tammuz of Nimrod.

But we're not talking about the pagan worship of Roman Catholic, but the so-called striking false similarity between Jesus and Horus.

Mescopaul:


Friend don't mix up issues here. The Roman Catholic worship is a different thing from the issue raised about Horus and Jesus.

If you're trying debase Christianity from Roman Catholic's pagan worship, then you've honestly missed the mark.

Everyone knows that TRC is just a pagan worship that was christianised for the acceptability of the masses. We know the lies.
We know the Mary and Jesus they claimed to worship is actually the Semiramis and Tammuz of Nimrod.

But we're not talking about the pagan worship of Roman Catholic, but the so-called striking false similarity between Jesus and Horus.

You're obviously not getting me, I'm trying to tell the op that Christianity as a whole was gotten from older pagan religions, the roman Catholic church was the beginning of many stream Christianity. All other branch of Christianity stemmed from it. The similarities between horus and Jesus in the post above is fallacious, though there are some similarities which are correct the rest are simply lies, if you web search Horus and Jesus together you get those similarities, but if you search Horus separately you see the similarities are much fewer than stated above.

It's made up parallels , Jesus has no connection to Horus.

You'll never find where the idea that Horus had 12 disciples came from, that he was crucified, that he was baptized by Anup the baptizer etc. No quotes from ancient sources, no references, no citations. Just assertions that Horus said this or that.

If u want to know wer people got the idea that Jesus had 12 disciples, was crucified etc,u can easily find it in the New Testament, but as for Horus , no1 knows

Richirich713:
It's made up parallels , Jesus has no connection to Horus.

You'll never find where the idea that Horus had 12 disciples came from, that he was crucified, that he was baptized the Anup the baptizer etc. No quotes from ancient sources, no references, no citations. Just assertions that Horus said this or that.

If u want to know wer people got the idea that Jesus had 12 disciples, was crucified etc,u can easily find it in the New Testament, but as for Horus , no1 knows

Don't mind them!

After all, the thread has been made DEAD ON ARRIVAL with one guy's post up there. It is confirmative enough.