oneolajire:



Do you belong to the JW? My sermon is enough for you, go ask the truth from those who taught you lies, they will confess to you that they are only trying to form a religious sect filled with rubbish.

Eph 1:18. May your eyes of understanding be enlightened, may you know the hope of Christ's calling.....that's my prayer for you.

Is that what he asked? Keep on deceiving yourself, believe people who said God showed them heaven and hell, and that they saw people burning in hell. If there are people burning in Hell, then what's the need for judgment day? Have you ever asked yourself that question?

oneolajire:


Go through the post diligently, especially point 4 and 6, read all the bible passages there, ask yourself where Paul and Stephen went when they died. Ask why the dead rich man could talk, feel,and try to prevent his brethren from coming to the place where he was.

That's just a symbol (parable).. Jesus was trying to teach the jews why the rich should not maltreat the poor, so he taught them using that parable. And come to think of it, have you ever asked yourself if there is a close relationship between Hell and Heaven? I.e can people in Hell fire (if there is any) communicate withe those in Heaven? Hell no! And how is it possible that the rich man was able to recognize Abraham who died thousands of years before him? And if people are in hell fire (like the rich man) then what's the usefulness of Judgment day? Will people be judged Twice? Hell no.. All these Things stated will let you know that it was just a mere parable.

izublingz:

Is that what he asked? Keep on deceiving yourself, believe people who said God showed them heaven and hell, and that they saw people burning in hell. If there are people burning in Hell, then what's the need for judgment day? Have you ever asked yourself that question?

izublingz:

That's just a symbol (parable).. Jesus was trying to teach the jews why the rich should not maltreat the poor, so he taught them using that parable. And come to think of it, have you ever asked yourself if there is a close relationship between Hell and Heaven? I.e can people in Hell fire (if there is any) communicate withe those in Heaven? Hell no! And how is it possible that the rich man was able to recognize Abraham who died thousands of years before him? And if people are in hell fire (like the rich man) then what's the usefulness of Judgment day? Will people be judged Twice? Hell no.. All these Things stated will let you know that it was just a mere parable.

Seems you have the challenge of believing what God said in his word. Pls be of the believing.

Don't do like the rich man who witnessed the torment before realised himself. Besides, if you call it a mere parable, Jesus doesn't make a parable without important reasons, or do u mean Jesus was only wasting his time? Or do u turn Jesus to a comedian?

However, have you realised that in your doctrine, (JWs) doctrine, there is nothing to lose if anyone refuses to to accept your teachings. In school, a student repeats or withdrawn if he fails. According to Jesus, those who rejects his teachings are condemned. But for JWS, there is nothing to lose (no damnation) for those who reject their teachings, and as long as there is nothing to lose, THERE IS NOTHING TO GAIN FROM THE TEACHINGS OF JWs

Segehvoice:
Ramans 6 v 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin
Romans 6v 23 For the wages of sin is death:but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord..So get it,death is enough punishment,God told Adam that he would die not that he will be thrown into hellfire, so get ur interpretation right.
Anytime you says God will throw people into hellfire,You make God looks wicked and cruel or what can someone do that will make God to throw him into hell indefinitely,and God will close his ears to agonies forever.How cruel will God be in the sight of Angels and Humans in heaven

if people who are dead have been freed from their sins, why then is judgement?

Hell fire is real!

izublingz:

That's just a symbol (parable).. Jesus was trying to teach the jews why the rich should not maltreat the poor, so he taught them using that parable. And come to think of it, have you ever asked yourself if there is a close relationship between Hell and Heaven? I.e can people in Hell fire (if there is any) communicate withe those in Heaven? Hell no! And how is it possible that the rich man was able to recognize Abraham who died thousands of years before him? And if people are in hell fire (like the rich man) then what's the usefulness of Judgment day? Will people be judged Twice? Hell no.. All these Things stated will let you know that it was just a mere parable.

Even if the rich man and Lazarus story is a parable, it clearly reveals the existence of Hell. What is a parable? It is an illustration of an event that could actually happen through which you can draw a lesson. So, you only give parables of things that are real and could happen in real life. Some parables use things familiar with the audience to illustrate the message.

For instance, you don't give a parable of a man flying because people don't fly in real life. You don't also give a parable of a dog talking because animals don't talk generally.

If Jesus said the rich man lifted his eyes in hell, then it means there is a place called hell. He will not give a parable of what is not real. Please, can you tell me any other parable Jesus gave of things that you can not relate with?

However, the rich man and Lazarus story is not a parable. In parable, you don't mention specific names. You give parable with generic terms. But in this story, names were mentioned. Our Lord Jesus by the gifts of the Holy Spirit told us what happened years back.

Abraham was not in heaven at that time. He was in a section underneath the earth called paradise. It is separated from hell by a gulf. Abraham and the saints of old where all released from paradise after Jesus rose from the dead


Matthew 27:50-53
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Besides, there are many infallible proof from the Bible about the existence of Hell. The JW choose to reject God's word is spite of overwhelming evidences and go about to establish their own doctrines.

Repent before it is too late otherwise you will see yourself in the very hell you don't believe.

You may want to ask, if people go to hell before the judgment day, why is there still a day set aside for final judgment.

Hell is actually likened to a cell awaiting trial. A final judgment day will come when those in hell will be released to face the great white throne judgment. And the final destination will be the Lake of fire which is far worse than hell

Revelation 20:10-15
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

oneolajire:


Repent, the kingdom of God is at hand. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour in order to be saved.

First of all, when you are given questions on matters you claim to have knowledge on, please, try and give answers to the questions else you have nothing to say.

Secondly, I am no JW but I don't believe they have all the wrong answers neither do I believe they have all the right answers, and neither do you hence your avoidance of the questions thrown.

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The concept of hell as existing in Christianity is not new but doesn't exist in Judaism, exists in Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Chinese Diyu mythology.

Now that in itself means one of two things; concepts were merged from one to another or all religions where shown the same thing. Which is which we do not know.

Now if is as we say, and Judgment is by works(good heaven, bad hell) then what is The Christ for and why did John say: No one has seen the Father but Him who comes from the Father tell us this, that the Father is LIGHT and IN HIM is NO DARKENSS.

And if Hell is as we say, then what gets to be there? The Spirit/Soul/Body?

oneolajire:
1. JW is the only true religion/christian: JW claim to be the only true religion/christian, so other Christians are false Christians. However, JW is a lifeless organisation that teaches falsehood and cannot withstand cohorts of principalities and powers of the devil. The reason why they are preaching to you because they believe all what you hear in church are false and they have the monopoly of God's truth.

Now see what we have hear. we say we are true Christians and call others false as u posit, now you are calling us false Christians. are you not doing the exact same thing? Have u ever read matt 7:2-5 before?

if you don't believe that ur church is the true church, that's ur cup of tea. But in the sight of God, there is only one faith. Eph 4:4-5

2. Those who go to church follow false doctrines: JW'S claim that churches are shrines as they are not recognised by God and that God only recognises only one organisation called JW organisation. That is why the six letter word CHURCH (Matt 16:18) is not written in the so fake bible (new world translation of the holy scriptures) of the JW'S but replaced with 'organisation'. Church is got from a Greek word 'ecclesia' which means, gathering of God's people, called out out ones, people of Christ (Act 8:3, 1 Cor 1:2, 1 Pet 2:9).

1. show me where "church" is replaced with "organization" in the NWT.

2. Go and make research about the basic meaning of the word "ekklesia" from a reputable source and write out the meaning here, let's see which translation captures the original meaning.

3. They are following the command of Christ to announce God's kingdom: JW will never preach juju people, ritualist, ogbonis, babalawos because JWs doctrines is powerless. Ask them of the number of worship centres they have in Iran, Iraq, 
Afghanistan and other difficult places. Does it mean these neglected people don't need God's kingdom? The truth is that they only preach where christianity has been established. They confuse those who are on the way to heaven because they have little knowledge of God's word by promising them a kingdom on earth.

Give me the name of your church, after which we shall compare statistics to know how much your individual member pend preaching, the scope and individuals preached to.

4. Man is not a Spirit Being. They claim that man is a composition of two things, clay and breath from God. 1 Thessalonian 5:23 makes us to know that man is made of Spirit, soul and body. Act 7:52, shows us that Stephen's spirit was to go to Jesus. Paul said 'I go to be with Jesus when I die', he didn't say he's going to the grave. We fellowship in the spirit realm (John 4:24), means (human) spirits communicates with God(spirit) or other spiritual beings. Heb 4:12, Rom 12:2, soul/mind in the intellectual (reasoning) part of a man. So man is a Spirit being who has a soul, the intellectual realm while we only live in the body.

Differentiate between soul, the spirit and the body and tell me there individual location in the body. again, where does the soul and the spirit go after death. with scriptural reference.

Also tell me what happens to the soul, spirit and the body of the animals when they die. Eccl 3:19

Why is the "YOU" in that 1Thes 5:23 in the plural and the "soul, spirit and body" is singular? How does that help in determining the meaning of the verse?

5. Jesus is not worthy of worship: JWs always denigrate the person of Jesus, they will never sing our church songs nor pray with us because we worship Jesus. Heb 1:6 Jehovah says Jesus should be worshipped. Rev 5:8-14, Matt 2:11 also supported the worship of Jesus. JWs are only fighting a lost battle for being angry to worship Jesus. The JWs fake bible replaced 'worship' with 'pay obeisance' wherever people worship Jesus.

Maybe when you start living in accord with the command of Jesus instead of unctuously descanting effluvium.lol

Jesus said that worship belongs only to his Father. (Luke 4:8. Pls obey him.

Assignment: what is the Greek word for worship and what is its basic meaning?

6. There is no hell/lake of fire. JW teaches that God cannot send people to hell as he has made the earth for mankind. They claim those who don't believe in Jesus Christ would not resurrect or would have an abrupt end.  Anyway, the Bible teaches eternity in heaven (for those who follow the teachings of Jesus and eternity in hell (Rev 21:15, 22: for those who do otherwise. If there were no lake of fire, the rich man wouldn't have tried to prevent his relatives from witnessing same torment (Luke 16:20-31)

Who said God cannot send people to hell? Didn't Jesus go to hell?

Who said there is no lake of fire? what's it about this ire, this furor you squirt?

And you quoted Rev 21:15; 22:8 for what? where is the hell?

And if the rich man was ur 'hellfire', he would soon be free when the same hell will be brought to nothing. Rev 20:14. if he was in a hellfire, he would not have mouth to even send a message nor think that a fire from a finger can quench a fire.

7. Jesus is an angel, precisely Angel Michael. JWs claim the statements 'sons of God' (Gen 6:2) refers to angels. So Jesus is God's firstborn son and Michael is the Arch angel, therefore Jesus is angel Michael( 1 Thes 5:16). JWs are wrong. Angels are spirits, servants of those who inherit salvation (Heb 1:14). Heb chapter 1 & 2 were written to the Hebrews (and to us) to purposely educate them (us) that Jesus is not an angel.

Where did 1thes 5:16 say Jesus is archangel, and when did we quote that scripture?

Again, whose voice or authority will raise the dead? John 5:25, 28.

8. Nobody is in heaven: John 3: 13, Jesus told Nicodemus that 'nobody has ascended to heaven'. 
This place is quoted out of context. Jesus was telling Nicodemus that He is the only one who has being in heaven and come down to earth, and nobody has gone up there and returned to earth to tell us heavenly things. JW's don't want to know where Elijah went. Ascention means lifting up of a bodyly being but believers go to heaven in spirit form (Act 7:52).

When did we say that nobody is in heaven?

So no anger has been in heaven and come down to earth except Jesus? impeccable!

If Elijah went to heaven, then he eventually returned, which will contradict Jesus statement. Read 2easter
21:12-15

9. Other Christians worship three Gods (polyetheism)  as they worship only one God (monotheism). Bible truth goes thus:  EMMANUEL means JEHOVAH WITH US (Matt 1:23). Jesus is God in human flesh John 1:1&14, 1Tim 3:16. In Rev 1:6-8 Jesus is all that Jehovah is, the ALMIGHTY. In Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is the everlasting father. Philippians 2:6 tells us Jesus is a form of God-in human flesh.
 God is a Spirit in John 4:24, in Rom 8: 9, Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ were interchanged, which also is the Holy Spirit. 
You can see that we worship only one God (1 Cor 8:4) who relates with man in three forms. This is uniqueness of Christianity.

And this ur god also has a God he worships? John 20:17. Ur father also has a Father, Jehovah (matt 6:9) so who is the father of Jehovah? smh

10. Man will live forever in this earth. Matthew 5:5 is their favourite verse. JW's claim that the garden of Eden lost by Adam would be restored on earth (eternal life). First error from Matt 5:5, someone can be meek yet don't know Jesus. Second error, heaven and the earth will be burnt with fire (2 Pet 3: 7 & 12, Rev 21:1 & 2), to give way for new heaven and earth.

So you are saying that Jesus was wrong? So there will be new earth? is that earth for lizards to live forever? smh

11. Participating in competitions e.g. sports, debate, etc are sinful 2 Cor 10:12. They misinterpreted the bible. Though their members have so much passion for competive sports, yet they are hypocrites when it comes sticking to this doctrines of theirs. 1,Cor 9:25  Even Paul told us that those who run run to win prizes as he would have condemned competition in this verse while he would have categorised competitive sports as sin in several places of the scriptures. When we excel in competitions, it brings glory to God as his children.

Who quoted 2cor 10:12 for u? just attacking a straw man.

12. Accepting blood transfusion is sinful  Act 15:20 also misinterpreted. JW's can't prove with the bible any account of blood transfusion in the bible, so how does 'abstain from blood' means 'reject blood transfusion'? However, if we should follow the word 'abstain', then we should run away from blood of fish, goats and other animals as well as injured people and women giving birth. Unfortunately, they do not have any bible record of blood transfusion prior to the time of the first Apostles to justify that their claim.

 
Why don't u drink the blood of fish, animal and that of a woman?

I wonder why u don't smoke cigarette since u don't find it explicitly written.

13. Marking or celebrating days is unbiblical. JW's don't celebrate easter, christmas and new year. They refused to see what the bible says that those who keeps a day should keep it for the Lord Romans 14:6. Philippian 4:4. Unfortunately, the celebrate wedding anniversary, what an hypocricy?

Ooooh! you see I like ur style. You are looking for where blood transfusion is written in the bible, but you didn't look for where easter, Christmas is written in the Bible before doing it? chai, because u wanna eat chicken and use burn fires?

What is the origin of Christmas and its symbols? what about easter

14. Participating in secular governance and politics should be avoided. They hold on to 1 Cor 4:4 where bible says that the devil is the 'god of this world'. So they claim being part of the world government means being ruled by the devil. They claim to await God's kingdom on earth to be ruled by Jesus (theocracy). They neither say the national anthems, pledges nor salute flags because of these reason (they also refer to them as worship). Bible teaches that God appointed rulers over us Rom 13: 1-7, Titus 3:1.  God would have told is if he doesn't  want us not to be part the leaders. The truth is that the devil had been in operation before the nation of Israel, so David, Hezekiah, Daniel and other faithfuls wouldn't have been permitted by God if truely God doesn't want us to part of government.

Maybe u should offer animal sacrifices just like David did or perhaps go back to the nation of Israel.

Imitate Jesus. john 6:15

15. Being in military is wrong. JW's claim they are not for fight but for peace, because God's kingdom is for peace. In Act 10, we see how a senior army officer (and his household) got born again and got baptised in the Holy Spirit. Peter would have compelled Cornilius to resign from the Italian regiment if being in the army was sinful. Moreover, Jesus healed the servant of another senior military officer (Matt 8:5-11) without Jesus saying anything negative about his participation in the army.

Assignment: go and check early Christians who embraced Christianity whether they remained in the military. submit it 24hrs from now. Oya...

matt 26:52 u must perish by the sword if u don't repent.

16. Jesus is a created being Col 1:15. JW held tight to this verse and misinterpreted it. Jesus was the creator who entered creation to save mankind. Anyone who will enter this world must take the form of creation before he can be born Col 1:16, Philippian 2:5-8.

If you are the firstborn of ur father, what does it mean? that you weren't born by him?
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WHO ARE THE JWs

1. They are people who use human wisdom to interpret God's word. They lack spiritual understanding as the natural human wisdom cannot receive God's wisdom (1 Cor 2: 12-14, John 14:26)

No, rather you are the one that use human wisdom to air ur delirium.

2. They are people who lack revelation of GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT (Eph 1:17-18)

Yet we succeed in preaching throughout the earth more than u that has the ghost?

3 They are spiritually DEAF.  John 10:27, they don't hear God's  audible voice speaking to them, so they want you to join them so you'll become spiritually deaf.

It you who is spiritually blind that you do not know that demons have been using ur immoral twerp pastors to flimflam you in the name of miracle.

4 They are empty in the spiritual realm, so powerless doctrine. No healing, miracle, vision, prophesy, all because they lack the Holy Spirit and that is why they cannot confront juju power and the likes.

You are a good product of their thimblerig. kudos!

5. They don't preach salvation from sin, repentance, sanctification and righteousness, as a prerequisite for God's kingdom. They only tell people to come and study and start preaching heresy.

By the time u are thru with ur spiritual repose, you will unclog to the reality of matt 7:23.

We don't preach these things? you must be from ur father the devil. john 8:44

6 They lack revelation of heaven: In Isaiah 6, Act 7: 55-56, Rev 4, God's people saw the revelations of heaven and God is still showing Christians what heaven looks like, but none of the JWs has ever seen heaven. Christians can see where we are going, they cannot see their end.

Remain spiritually clogged. When u renounce lies and sophistry, God will help you to see what's essential than faux vision. matt 7:21

JWs doctrine looks attractive to you if
1. You have a shallow knowledge of God's word

if it were so, it would have looked attractive to you cos you have a shallow knowledge of the bible and u love lies.

2. You live in sin (lying, worldliness, sexual immoralities e.t.c.)

But ur faux pastors, who sleep with the church members are not all JWs? Rather it ur churches who condone those Bilkers and not disfellowship them provide a pen for them to flock.

3. You don't allow the Holy Spirit to teach you more of God

It is rather you who get inspired by an incubus, that church attracts, because you will be fade with lies.

4. You don't go for evangelism

This is hilarious. it is obvious you are just being disingenuous. People who preach commend our unmatchable efforts.

When you stop lying maybe we can have a discussion. I hate insincere people

onwuakpachris:
oneolajire...to start with I was born an Anglican..so don't mistake me for a J.W...but I have a very simple question for you man..what if those people's other faith u are criticising is actually the truth and yours is false...cum to think of it how do u even no which faith is true and not?..u said that J.W.s see other faiths as false..what of other faiths..catholics..Anglicans..do they believe in each others faith..do we Anglicans believe in the catholic doctrines of purgatory..big/small sin...Mary adoration..image veneration..e.t.c.et.c.and vice versa...can't people..especially Africans js realise for once that religion is js a matter of birth and not by choice...that is the family nd society u wr born into..let's say u..oneolajire was born into a J.W family..u won't be here today criticizing J.W..will u?..so unfortunate how Africans believed everytin some white looking greedy men told us about God and Christ some 200 years ago hook..line and sinker..mind u..some white looking greedy men that were also killing and selling our people at d same time..so interesting how the very bible that condemned the very slightest acts of violence..fighting..bearing grudges..jealousy.. e.t.c with a penalty of eternal damnation in hell..but didnot condemn the horrible act of selling fellow human beings like animals..that is slavery..and even sanctioned it when it said that" the children of Shem..son of noah shall serve the children of ham and Japheth for all eternity"..hmmmm really interesting indeed..!!!!

Did you really read what the op wrote at all....Are you a christian. I doubt. Do you study your bible. Obviously no. Mr man....Pls repent and converted and stop this your childish write up.

onwuakpachris:
oneolajire...to start with I was born an Anglican..so don't mistake me for a J.W...but I have a very simple question for you man..what if those people's other faith u are criticising is actually the truth and yours is false...cum to think of it how do u even no which faith is true and not?..u said that J.W.s see other faiths as false..what of other faiths..catholics..Anglicans..do they believe in each others faith..do we Anglicans believe in the catholic doctrines of purgatory..big/small sin...Mary adoration..image veneration..e.t.c.et.c.and vice versa...can't people..especially Africans js realise for once that religion is js a matter of birth and not by choice...that is the family nd society u wr born into..let's say u..oneolajire was born into a J.W family..u won't be here today criticizing J.W..will u?..so unfortunate how Africans believed everytin some white looking greedy men told us about God and Christ some 200 years ago hook..line and sinker..mind u..some white looking greedy men that were also killing and selling our people at d same time..so interesting how the very bible that condemned the very slightest acts of violence..fighting..bearing grudges..jealousy.. e.t.c with a penalty of eternal damnation in hell..but didnot condemn the horrible act of selling fellow human beings like animals..that is slavery..and even sanctioned it when it said that" the children of Shem..son of noah shall serve the children of ham and Japheth for all eternity"..hmmmm really interesting indeed..!!!!

Did you really read what the op wrote at all....Are you a christian. I doubt. Do you study your bible. Obviously no. Mr man....Pls repent and be converted and stop this your childish write up. Your immaturity can cost you your eternity. Pls grow abeg

JMAN05:


Now see what we have hear. we say we are true Christians and call others false as u posit, now you are calling us false Christians. are you not doing the exact same thing? Have u ever read matt 7:2-5 before?

if you don't believe that ur church is the true church, that's ur cup of tea. But in the sight of God, there is only one faith. Eph 4:4-5




1. show me where "church" is replaced with "organization" in the NWT.

2. Go and make research about the basic meaning of the word "ekklesia" from a reputable source and write out the meaning here, let's see which translation captures the original meaning.



Give me the name of your church, after which we shall compare statistics to know how much your individual member pend preaching, the scope and individuals preached to.



Differentiate between soul, the spirit and the body and tell me there individual location in the body. again, where does the soul and the spirit go after death. with scriptural reference.

Also tell me what happens to the soul, spirit and the body of the animals when they die. Eccl 3:19

Why is the "YOU" in that 1Thes 5:23 in the plural and the "soul, spirit and body" is singular? How does that help in determining the meaning of the verse?



Maybe when you start living in accord with the command of Jesus instead of unctuously descanting effluvium.lol

Jesus said that worship belongs only to his Father. (Luke 4:8. Pls obey him.

Assignment: what is the Greek word for worship and what is its basic meaning?




Who said God cannot send people to hell? Didn't Jesus go to hell?

Who said there is no lake of fire? what's it about this ire, this furor you squirt?

And you quoted Rev 21:15; 22:8 for what? where is the hell?

And if the rich man was ur 'hellfire', he would soon be free when the same hell will be brought to nothing. Rev 20:14. if he was in a hellfire, he would not have mouth to even send a message nor think that a fire from a finger can quench a fire.





Where did 1thes 5:16 say Jesus is archangel, and when did we quote that scripture?

Again, whose voice or authority will raise the dead? John 5:25, 28.



When did we say that nobody is in heaven?

So no anger has been in heaven and come down to earth except Jesus? impeccable!

If Elijah went to heaven, then he eventually returned, which will contradict Jesus statement. Read 2easter
21:12-15



And this ur god also has a God he worships? John 20:17. Ur father also has a Father, Jehovah (matt 6:9) so who is the father of Jehovah? smh



So you are saying that Jesus was wrong? So there will be new earth? is that earth for lizards to live forever? smh




Who quoted 2cor 10:12 for u? just attacking a straw man.



 
Why don't u drink the blood of fish, animal and that of a woman?

I wonder why u don't smoke cigarette since u don't find it explicitly written.



Ooooh! you see I like ur style. You are looking for where blood transfusion is written in the bible, but you didn't look for where easter, Christmas is written in the Bible before doing it? chai, because u wanna eat chicken and use burn fires?

What is the origin of Christmas and its symbols? what about easter




Maybe u should offer animal sacrifices just like David did or perhaps go back to the nation of Israel.

Imitate Jesus. john 6:15



Assignment: go and check early Christians who embraced Christianity whether they remained in the military. submit it 24hrs from now. Oya...

matt 26:52 u must perish by the sword if u don't repent.



If you are the firstborn of ur father, what does it mean? that you weren't born by him?
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No, rather you are the one that use human wisdom to air ur delirium.



Yet we succeed in preaching throughout the earth more than u that has the ghost?



It you who is spiritually blind that you do not know that demons have been using ur immoral twerp pastors to flimflam you in the name of miracle.



You are a good product of their thimblerig. kudos!



By the time u are thru with ur spiritual repose, you will unclog to the reality of matt 7:23.

We don't preach these things? you must be from ur father the devil. john 8:44



Remain spiritually clogged. When u renounce lies and sophistry, God will help you to see what's essential than faux vision. matt 7:21




if it were so, it would have looked attractive to you cos you have a shallow knowledge of the bible and u love lies.



But ur faux pastors, who sleep with the church members are not all JWs? Rather it ur churches who condone those Bilkers and not disfellowship them provide a pen for them to flock.



It is rather you who get inspired by an incubus, that church attracts, because you will be fade with lies.



This is hilarious. it is obvious you are just being disingenuous. People who preach commend our unmatchable efforts.

When you stop lying maybe we can have a discussion. I hate insincere people

Am happy to read your comments, it means you have been greatly touched by God's word I simplified in the thread. Why don't you bury your pride and submit that you have been carrying falsehood all these while.

Am so sure you have never heard the truth in this manner before that is why you have rated your doctrine so high. God loves you so much that is why he made you to get the truth from this thread.

My advice to you is for you to copy this thread and use it to preach and convert other members of your JW organisation.

May your eyes of understanding be enlightened in Jesus name. God bless you.

dueal:


First of all, when you are given questions on matters you claim to have knowledge on, please, try and give answers to the questions else you have nothing to say.

Secondly, I am no JW but I don't believe they have all the wrong answers neither do I believe they have all the right answers, and neither do you hence your avoidance of the questions thrown.

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dueal:
The concept of hell as existing in Christianity is not new but doesn't exist in Judaism, exists in Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Chinese Diyu mythology.
Now that in itself means one of two things; concepts were merged from one to another or all religions where shown the same thing. Which is which we do not know.
Now if is as we say, and Judgment is by works(good heaven, bad hell) then what is The Christ for and why did John say: No one has seen the Father but Him who comes from the Father tell us this, that the Father is LIGHT and IN HIM is NO DARKENSS.
And if Hell is as we say, then what gets to be there? The Spirit/Soul/Body?

You don't belong to JW, you believe the JWs are partially right and we are partially right as well. Where do you belong? You can't be with us and JW at the same time. We are not religious people, we are people of Jesus. If you really belong to Jesus, you will have nothing to do with Greek or Egyptian mythology.
Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, repent and be converted

Segehvoice:
Jesus is lord and my savior through his blood,so stop telling me to accept him cos l have him in my life already.
JW has answers to every question biblically.People that listen to them are not stupid,yes You claim they are teaching lies,yet they are more dedicated that your pastors that are not teaching lies,they trek long distance to spread the gospel,moving from house to house while ur pastors stand at one junction and be making noise

If Jesus is your Lord and Saviour, you would be supporting all my points as those are what Bible teaches.
What is the importance of preaching lies and commending the wasted efforts? What is the importance of preaching a powerless message (when the when the word of God carries so much power)?
God will not reward wrong dedication, the Jews (who thought they are helping God) who resisted Jesus and persecuted the Apostles were more dedicated than you JW'S, so don't let the dedication impress you.
Repent! I say repent!!

oneolajire:


Am happy to read your comments, it means you have been greatly touched by God's word I simplified in the thread. Why don't you bury your pride and submit that you have been carrying falsehood all these while.

Am so sure you have never heard the truth in this manner before that is why you have rated your doctrine so high. God loves you so much that is why he made you to get the truth from this thread.

My advice to you is for you to copy this thread and use it to preach and convert other members of your JW organisation.

May your eyes of understanding be enlightened in Jesus name. God bless you.

You mean that after leaving the church and become a JW, I will vacuously return and become flimflammed as you are? After you ve shown how a fabulist you are by l
disingenuously spewing lies against the witnesses? If you do not repent, your end will be disastrous. Flee from false religion as I did or... Rev 18:4

They are people who use human wisdom to interpret God's word. They lack spiritual understanding as the natural human wisdom cannot receive God's wisdom (1 Cor 2: 12-14, John 14:26.
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My dear, you are right about this one. A Jw came to my house to share the gospel with me and ended up telling me that hell does not exist. I told him to check Rev 21:15 that the Bible specifically mentions that all sinners shall be thrown into the lake of fire. Guess what he said? He said I should use logic to interpret that verse that how can God who loved me, throw me inside fire.

I realized that any part in the bible that doesn't follow their doctrine is twisted with logic. The same thing applies to why they don't celebrate birthdays and all. Things of the spirit cannot be understood by logic and they don't seem to realize that. They rarely talk about the holy spirit and as a matter of fact, I don't recall a Jw talking to me about the holy spirit.

This people need to preach to the lost and not to people who are already grounded in the word.

Emmaesty:
They are people who use human wisdom to interpret God's word. They lack spiritual understanding as the natural human wisdom cannot receive God's wisdom (1 Cor 2: 12-14, John 14:26.
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My dear, you are right about this one. A Jw came to my house to share the gospel with me and ended up telling me that hell does not exist. I told him to check Rev 21:15 that the Bible specifically mentions that all sinners shall be thrown into the lake of fire. Guess what he said? He said I should use logic to interpret that verse that how can God who loved me, throw me inside fire.

I realized that any part in the bible that doesn't follow their doctrine is twisted with logic. The same thing applies to why they don't celebrate birthdays and all. Things of the spirit cannot be understood by logic and they don't seem to realize that. They rarely talk about the holy spirit and as a matter of fact, I don't recall a Jw talking to me about the holy spirit.

This people need to preach to the lost and not to people who are already grounded in the word.

I agree with you that logic isn't everything but when reading the scripture there are some things that many churches recognize as illustration cos they use logic e.g when Jesus said if your eyes make you stumble , remove it . why no do that ? But logic is applied to come to the conclusion that it simply means guard yourself against lust not removing your eyes . and here you are embarrassing logic . is that not hypocrisy ?

Okay, but do you realize that death and the GRAVE will also be casted into this lake of fire ? Rev 20:14

Elsewhere we are told that death will be brought to NOTHING , now tell me does it mean death and GRAVE are personalties that will be burning forever or it means these two conditions they will be destroyed as stated in Rev 21:4 ?

Jehovahs witnesses understand the fate of the wicked to be everlasting destruction " as stated in 2 The 1:9 not everlasting torment . unless you are ready to tell me death and grave or hell in some bibles will be burning for everlasting in a literal fire . which prompt the question : is death a condition or a personality ?

JMAN05:


You mean that after leaving the church and become a JW, I will vacuously return and become flimflammed as you are? After you ve shown how a fabulist you are by l
disingenuously spewing lies against the witnesses? If you do not repent, your end will be disastrous. Flee from false religion as I did or... Rev 18:4

Really! You mean you abandoned the truth sometimes ago and joined JW! Now I see why you have been struggling with the thread. I can't imagine joining a powerless organisation. Ogbinis, witches, babalawos and cultists are million times more powerful than the JWs, that is why JWs don't preach to them. 1 Cor 2:4, the kingdom of God we preach carries the demonstration of Holy Spirit and power. that is why whenever we mention the name of Jesus all cohorts bow, tremble and flee.
Guy you have missed a lot. The good Lord that made u encounter this thread will restore you.

Besides, you were only attending church and following church rules those days and not did not encounter Jesus the lover of your soul. May God have mercy on you in Jesus name

oneolajire:


Really! You mean you abandoned the truth sometimes ago and joined JW! Now I see why you have been struggling with the thread. I can't imagine joining a powerless organisation. Ogbinis, witches, babalawos and cultists are million times more powerful than the JWs, that is why JWs don't preach to them. 1 Cor 2:4, the kingdom of God we preach carries the demonstration of Holy Spirit and power. that is why whenever we mention the name of Jesus all cohorts bow, tremble and flee.
Guy you have missed a lot. The good Lord that made u encounter this thread will restore you.

Besides, you were only attending church and following church rules those days and not did not encounter Jesus the lover of your soul. May God have mercy on you in Jesus name

, oga which church you dey go ?

Emmaesty:
They are people who use human wisdom to interpret God's word. They lack spiritual understanding as the natural human wisdom cannot receive God's wisdom (1 Cor 2: 12-14, John 14:26.
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My dear, you are right about this one. A Jw came to my house to share the gospel with me and ended up telling me that hell does not exist. I told him to check Rev 21:15 that the Bible specifically mentions that all sinners shall be thrown into the lake of fire. Guess what he said? He said I should use logic to interpret that verse that how can God who loved me, throw me inside fire.

I realized that any part in the bible that doesn't follow their doctrine is twisted with logic. The same thing applies to why they don't celebrate birthdays and all. Things of the spirit cannot be understood by logic and they don't seem to realize that. They rarely talk about the holy spirit and as a matter of fact, I don't recall a Jw talking to me about the holy spirit.

This people need to preach to the lost and not to people who are already grounded in the word.

They don't need to preach to the lost as they are lost already. The preaching of a lost minute can't save another lost man.

They need to abandon their doctrines and embrace Jesus.

oneolajire:


They don't need to preach to the lost as they are lost already. The preaching of a lost minute can't save another lost man.

They need to abandon their doctrines and embrace Jesus.

Tell me your church, Let's compare your preaching activity worldwide to that of the Witnesses ? Matthew 24:14




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Jozzy4:


Tell me your church, Let's compare your preaching activity worldwide to that of the Witnesses ? Matthew 24:14




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You mean you are happy preaching lies in countries and regions where Christianity has been established before you got there? Why working on another man's field?

I belong to the church, Jesus is our head Col 1:18. Jesus sent the first set of his preachers to us(Nigeria) in the 1850's and till now, the church of God is marching on. Anyone who sings our church songs or prays with us in any gathering is our member. We also have our members all over the world.

oneolajire:



You don't belong to JW, you believe the JWs are partially right and we are partially right as well. Where do you belong? You can't be with us and JW at the same time. We are not religious people, we are people of Jesus. If you really belong to Jesus, you will have nothing to do with Greek or Egyptian mythology.
Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, repent and be converted

I restate, I am not with "Us" neither am I with "JW". To know what you have you have to know where you are coming from. Somehow, religious folks seem to believe, especially in Christianity, that the first time God revealed Himself was with Israel and Moses/Abraham. Read your Bible, before then as recorded in the compilation we have God(YAH) revealed Himself to a Pharaoh of Egypt.

Know your History, at least the one you will accept(the Bible).

oneolajire:


You mean you are happy preaching lies in countries and regions where Christianity has been established before you got there? Why working on another man's field?

I belong to the church, Jesus is our head Col 1:18. Jesus sent the first set of his preachers to us(Nigeria) in the 1850's and till now, the church of God is marching on. Anyone who sings our church songs or prays with us in any gathering is our member. We also have our members all over the world.

Oga, your own church , what's the name ? shey u are scarced ni

Jozzy4:


Oga, your own church , what's the name ? shey u are scarced ni

Jesus' church Col 1:18

oneolajire:


Jesus' church Col 1:18

Okay. Lol

Just don't know why you scared to say the name of the Pentecostal ministry una dey attend every Sunday.

Jozzy4:


Okay. Lol

Just don't know why you scared to say the name of the Pentecostal ministry una dey attend every Sunday.

I know you understand english. We attend churches, a church is a church and as many that have same faith in Jesus belongs to the Church. So get that right.

oneolajire:


I know you understand english. We attend churches, a church is a church and as many that have same faith in Jesus belongs to the Church. So get that right.

So you avoid being grouped under a registered Christian establishment in Nigeria. But quick to shout Jehovah Witnesses is bad.

Judge yourself.

dueal:


So you avoid being grouped under a registered Christian establishment in Nigeria. But quick to shout Jehovah Witnesses is bad.

Judge yourself.

I have told you what you needed to hear, and will tell you more, to repent and be converted. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour. Dump the powerless doctrine that can't save from sin, satan and the lake of fire.

oneolajire:


I have told you what you needed to hear, and will tell you more, to repent and be converted. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour. Dump the powerless doctrine that can't save from sin, satan and the lake of fire.

And what doctrine would that be? That your concept of rapture is wrong, or that you search for the kingdom of God elsewhere? I bet you know little to nothing about anything the Bible talks about.

oneolajire:


I know you understand english. We attend churches, a church is a church and as many that have same faith in Jesus belongs to the Church. So get that right.