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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 5:35pm On Sep 12, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


As I said again, Iheanacho would not play as a top striker in CHAN. How does that mean staying at home to you? He was to start as the creative midfielder.

Are you saying all starters of the CHAN team were ready to play for Manchester City?

That is where the academy came in. They did the grooming. Found his natural role as a finisher. Trained him in the role and pushed him to the senior team.

In the senior team, as a teenager, Iheanacho's growth continued. Playing among top players, working under a top coach like Pellegrini. All these were part of his training.

That is why he is a City Home-grown player.

so in other words Sterling is also a youth product.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:26pm On Sep 12, 2016
tbaba1234:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivakpjRFTfo

From his highlights, He looks like a very good player but you never know till he changes to a tougher league.
If he moves up the ladder to a better league, this guy will beast out.
Sometimes, training with better players, better facilities, training methods, physio and living in a decent city helps athletes make the leap and become better.
Chikeluba is the sort of player these little indices will improve. This guy is like a diamond in the rough.


Thanks for uploading this video by the way, I enjoyed every bit of it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:11pm On Sep 12, 2016
I just realized something guys; Our WCQ game against Zambia falls on Iheanacho's birthday grin hope he gets a winning goal

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:43pm On Sep 12, 2016
safarigirl:
I just realized something guys; Our WCQ game against Zambia falls on Iheanacho's birthday grin hope he gets a winning goal
I just smiled after reading your post, I see you are a big fan of Iheanacho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:04pm On Sep 12, 2016
zicky:

I just smiled after reading your post, I see you are a big fan of Iheanacho
i really want him to do better, to kick asss, he's the first Nigerian footballer I've actually watched from scratch, so it's a lot like wanting your child to conquer the world

I was 11 when Mikel's set were at the U20, don't remember much of him and i was largely unaware of his dealings post-U20 until 2009 or so, but this boy, I follow news of him like a moth follows flame. I'm a huge supporter smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:42pm On Sep 12, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


so in other words Sterling is also a youth product.

Of which team? How does Sterling tick the boxes of what I explained of Iheanacho?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrinkWater10: 2:08am On Sep 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


As I said again, Iheanacho would not play as a top striker in CHAN. How does that mean staying at home to you? He was to start as the creative midfielder.

Are you saying all starters of the CHAN team were ready to play for Manchester City?

That is where the academy came in. They did the grooming. Found his natural role as a finisher. Trained him in the role and pushed him to the senior team.

In the senior team, as a teenager, Iheanacho's growth continued. Playing among top players, working under a top coach like Pellegrini. All these were part of his training.

That is why he is a City Home-grown player.
The rule states that to be a home grown player you must played in the country, which in his case is England three years before your eighteenth birthday.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:33am On Sep 13, 2016
DrinkWater10:

The rule states that to be a home grown player you must played in the country, which in his case is England three years before your eighteenth birthday.

Currently, to be classified as homegrown one must be on an English team for at least three years before the age of twenty-one


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homegrown_Player_Rule_(England)

I already stated in the earlier article that Iheanacho becomes a full home-grown player by the end of this season.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrinkWater10: 2:37am On Sep 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Currently, to be classified as homegrown one must be on an English team for at least three years before the age of twenty-one


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homegrown_Player_Rule_(England)

I already stated in the earlier article that Iheanacho becomes a full home-grown player by the end of this season.
thanks
Congrats on your deserved win last weekend.
I expect City to win Gladbach in midweek and wrack up UEFA Coefficient points alongside other EPL teams.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:08am On Sep 13, 2016
DrinkWater10:

thanks
Congrats on your deserved win last weekend.
I expect City to win Gladbach in midweek and wrack up UEFA Coefficient points alongside other EPL teams.

Guardiola warned us against Monchengladbach. He met them four times in the last two seasons and he did not win one. Monchengladbach Won twice and they drew twice. So it is very tricky.

Thanks for the congrats. Do not Forget to send the e-wine.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrinkWater10: 3:29am On Sep 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Guardiola warned us against Monchengladbach. He met them four times in the last two seasons and he did not win one. Monchengladbach Won twice and they drew twice. So it is very tricky.

Thanks for the congrats. Do not Forget to send the e-wine.
To be honest the first thirty minutes of that game was an eye sore, from a united point of view. City were just unplayable.
Mou should stop playing Pogba in a two man midfield like descamps did in the euros.Allegri and Conte never did so.
Clattenburg should have red carded Bravo for his two footed lunge though.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:47am On Sep 13, 2016
DrinkWater10:

To be honest the first thirty minutes of that game was an eye sore, from a united point of view. City were just unplayable.
Mou should stop playing Pogba in a two man midfield like descamps did in the euros.Allegri and Conte never did so.
Clattenburg should have red carded Bravo for his two footed lunge though.
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Bailly had no place on the field after he fouled Otamendi from behind in the box when Otamendi was to score. Even.

As for Pogba, he was a beast in that game. Unlike many, I was impressed with his force. Sad Mourinho is not using him to the best of his abilities. With more freedom and protection at the back, Pogba will easily be one of the deadliest players in football.

He has the strength, speed, skills and shots to perform highly. That defensive role is catastrophic for such a talent. It limits Pogba too much.

I was also impressed with the speed, marking and tackling of Bailly. Shocked the Ivorians have such a brilliant defender.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:15am On Sep 13, 2016
Bailly is a centre-back not midfielder... wink

TheGoodJoe:


Bailly had no place on the field after he fouled Otamendi from behind in the box when Otamendi was to score. Even.

As for Pogba, he was a beast in that game. Unlike many, I was impressed with his force. Sad Mourinho is not using him to the best of his abilities. With more freedom and protection at the back, Pogba will easily be one of the deadliest players in football.

He has the strength, speed, skills and shots to perform highly. That defensive role is catastrophic for such a talent. It limits Pogba too much.

I was also impressed with the speed, marking and tackling of Bailly. Shocked the Ivorians have such a brilliant midfielder.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:20am On Sep 13, 2016
Nacho's Birthday is October 3rd. Zambia chose October 9th for the game. wink

All na october shaa...



safarigirl:
I just realized something guys; Our WCQ game against Zambia falls on Iheanacho's birthday grin hope he gets a winning goal
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:33am On Sep 13, 2016
.... Not of Man City. Sterling came through at Liverpool.... Remember?
BascoVanVeli:

so in other words Sterling is also a youth product.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:39am On Sep 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Of which team? How does Sterling tick the boxes of what I explained of Iheanacho?

That was the selling point for Sterling going to Man city, to play with top players and for a top coach, same as wat u said about Iheanacho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:47am On Sep 13, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
.... Not of Man City. Sterling came through at Liverpool.... Remember?

That was my point, Sterling actually came through the youth ranks at QPR. Once a player is playing regular epl matches that player is no longer an academy player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:02am On Sep 13, 2016
Okay... I see. Well, Nacho isn't 21 yet shaa as regards the home-grown players rule which I think TheGoodJoe was trying to explain.


Sterling is 21 going on 22.... I think.

BascoVanVeli:

That was my point, Sterling actually came through the youth ranks at QPR. Once a player is playing regular epl matches that player is no longer an academy player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:42am On Sep 13, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Okay... I see. Well, Nacho isn't 21 yet shaa as regards the home-grown players rule which I think TheGoodJoe was trying to explain.


Sterling is 21 going on 22.... I think.

The question is who's youth product is he? Liverpool or QPR?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:57am On Sep 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:

The question is who's youth product is he? Liverpool or QPR?

Liverpool, he started playing for then at 18 going to 19 and he just moved to Manchester last season, so that's 3 years, all boxes ticked

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:15am On Sep 13, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Nacho's Birthday is October 3rd. Zambia chose October 9th for the game. wink

All na october shaa...



Oh? Saw an ad yesterday that said the match is 3rd...my bad

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:47am On Sep 13, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Bailly is a centre-back not midfielder... wink


Thanks. Do not mind me. That I what happens with multitasking
.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:49am On Sep 13, 2016
Mickael2:


Liverpool, he started playing for then at 18 going to 19 and he just moved to Manchester last season, so that's 3 years, all boxes ticked
yes wonderful but what about the 8 or so years he spent at QPR? Yes it works for homegrown player rules but does that mean he is a youth product of liverpool? I think in that case the credit goes to QPR, I see youth product as players who had been with the cub since a kid. A player like Iwobi can be considered a true youth product. Iheanacho could easily have been loaned out when he got there, Man city didn't want to loan him. Look at Kelechi Nwakali who is already on loan. My point is although technically Iheanacho is a Man City youth product, in fact he really isn't. If they produced Iheanacho let them produce another one and then i'll be a believer.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:54am On Sep 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


That was the selling point for Sterling going to Man city, to play with top players and for a top coach, same as wat u said about Iheanacho.

So you did not see the part I wrote about Manchester City pushing Iheanacho from the City Football Academy to the senior team.

All you saw was playing with senior players. Haba.

Liverpool established Sterling as a Senior player. Manchester City did that for Iheanacho.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:58am On Sep 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:

yes wonderful but what about the 8 or so years he spent at QPR? Yes it works for homegrown player rules but does that mean he is a youth product of liverpool? I think in that case the credit goes to QPR, I see youth product as players who had been with the cub since a kid. A player like Iwobi can be considered a true youth product. Iheanacho could easily have been loaned out when he got there, Man city didn't want to loan him. Look at Kelechi Nwakali who is already on loan. My point is although technically Iheanacho is a Man City youth product, in fact he really isn't. If they produced Iheanacho let them produce another one and then i'll be a believer.

Your mixing academy of training a small boy in understanding the game to youth product in preparing a young player, teenager, for senior team football.

It takes risk to push a young player into the senior team. It takes a lot of coaching and preparation. It takes the senior manager showing faith.

Training a player in the academy is the easy part. Throwing that player in big games is the JAMB QUESTION.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:03am On Sep 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
If they produced Iheanacho let them produce another one and then i'll be a believer.

LOL. Our youth product, Dennis Suarez is playing for Barcelona.

I will give you four names to watch out for in the near future. Angelino, Maffeo, Adarabioyo and Mini Messi Brahim Diaz.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:14am On Sep 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


So you did not see the part I wrote about Manchester City pushing Iheanacho from the City Football Academy to the senior team.

All you saw was playing with senior players. Haba.

Liverpool established Sterling as a Senior player. Manchester City did that for Iheanacho.

Pogba got "established" at juventus did that make him their youth product? Hummels at dortmond.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:20am On Sep 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


Pogba got "established" at juventus did that make him their youth product? Hummels at dortmond.

Very easy to tell. Who gave them a debut at Senior level? That will tell you the club they are a youth product of.

Pogba = Manchester United. Sad he did not stay to learn under Paul Scholes. A season of two with Paul Scholes would have made him top notch.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:25am On Sep 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


LOL. Our youth product, Dennis Suarez is playing for Barcelona.

I will give you four names to watch out for in the near future. Angelino, Maffeo, Adarabioyo and Mini Messi Brahim Diaz.

Really! So how many times did Suarez play for ur first team? So now u are claiming players without giving them JAMB abi?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:36am On Sep 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


Really! So how many times did Suarez play for ur first team? So now u are claiming players without giving them JAMB abi?

We prepared him for senior team football and gave him his debut. He was Manchester City's young player of the year.

Clap for us. We did good there. Sad that he wanted to go back to Spain because of Personal reasons. Many tipped him as Silva's replacement. I suspect one chick wanted him in Spain. Umu Nwanyis (young girls).

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