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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Tellemall: 9:05pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
alolatee: You must mean some of the aspects of their doctrine that don't sit well. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:05pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Jozzy4: The same thing being talked about when Elisha requested for a double portion of Elijah's spirit. (2 Kgs. 2:9) |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Adexy4us(m): 9:08pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
JMAN .. .I am a fellow witness like you... Do u think this thread of yours will draw anyone to Jehovah & His son? Is this platform one of the ways to reach out to interested ones? Will the local elders in your congregation be pleased to see this thread from you? Will the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses to see this thread? Pls JMAN pls have a rethink & if possible do away with this thread 3 Likes |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Kingnap(m): 9:08pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Yinkamy: Why should I listen to them when they will not listen to me? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 9:09pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: smh for your poor understanding Yes only Jehovah is the saviour , but he raised up people to act as saviour . for example. @ Judges 3:9 Jehovah raise othniel as a saviour for the Israelites says the scripture. do u now mean othniel is Jehovah ? I don't know how you people think about Jesus here is what the scripture says : " the Father has SENT his son as Saviour of the world " 1 John 4:14 emphasis on sent , as he did in the case of othniel. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 9:11pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: lol, which thing ? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by freshcvvs: 9:11pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Anas09: What are you saying "hell fire monger"? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by sweetestboi(m): 9:13pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Excellent and well explained"u are indeed a diligent and competent bible student"I am so delighted with this piece" Because Gods law forbid the taken of another's blood to sustain life as you already know. Yes, its worth is cos any life lost on account of following bible principle would be rewarded. Matt 16:25 For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it We follow the scriptures in what we do, a principle understood by all members of Jehovah's witnesses. Jehovah do not want unrepentant persons to continue among true Christians. 1cor 5:11. As such, it was the person, who refuses to repent that ostracised himself and chose to remain so by his conduct. For example: if you belong to party A, that has a constitution outlining what is not allowed among members, and what can end your membership. If you unrepentantly go and break that party's rules, are you not the one to blame? Those who are not non witnesses cannot be ostracized. We invite them to be one of us. What people say in this situation does not matter but what Jehovah says. We are dedicated to do His will, not that of people around us. Jehovah does not want such people among His people, he made the vow to remain in Jahs laws previously. However, if the individual changes his ways, he is free to come back. The ball is always in his court! Secondly, hatred when you are doing the right thing is quite acceptable. John 17:14; 15:18, 19. Numerical strength is not the determinant of a true church of Christ. Rather Jesus says that true followers of Christ is identified by love(john 13:34,35), doing Gods will (matt 7:21), preaching the Goodnews (matt 28:19,20), being no part of the world (john 17:14) Etc. As a witness, I believe we have these credentials. I don't understand how you knew we are not transparent, what we do is outlined in the scriptures which you can lay your hand on, I wonder what is more transparent than that. The true Christians has always been available from the first century till date. That's a long history. Am still trying to figure out what you mean by being robotic, if following Bible principles is robotic to you, we are not bothered. There is nothing in the scriptures to support christmas , birthdays and new year celebrations. These things are known to be a pagan customs. Now is that robotic?[/quote] 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Adexy4us(m): 9:13pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
JMAN05: JMAN05.. .I am a fellow witness like you... Do u think this thread of yours will draw anyone to Jehovah & His son? Is this platform one of the ways to reach out to interested ones? Will the local elders in your congregation be pleased to see this thread from you? Will the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses be pleased to see this thread? Pls JMAN pls have a rethink & if possible do away with this thread (Modify ) (Quote ) (Report) (S 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by sweetestboi(m): 9:17pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
... .I am a fellow witness like you... Do u think this thread of yours will draw anyone to Jehovah & His son? Is this platform one of the ways to reach out to interested ones? Will the local elders in your congregation be pleased to see this thread from you? Will the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses to see this thread? Pls JMAN pls have a rethink & if possible do away with this thread[/quote]it is called informal witnessing.... its allowed, and for a fact, it is even encouraged bro" |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:17pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Jozzy4: Isa. 43:11 wasn't talking of a Saviour for the Jews alone, we know. Yahweh says only He can save; How then is Jesus Christ also Saviour? Isa. 45:5 says apart from YHWH, there is no other GOD. How then does YHWH say to Jesus Christ, "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever..." Psa. 45:6? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:18pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Jozzy4:That is left for you to find out. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Anas09: 9:20pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
freshcvvs:You asked questions you didnt even allow me answer but you have concluded that you have completely confused me. Hahahahahahaha. Where do u come from pls? Why did Adam run ans hide wen he heard God in the garden? The consciousness of a wrong doing Was there law wen Cane killed his brother? No Why did he trick him into following him to a secluded place, killed and hid his body? How did he know it was wrong? Conscience. Wen God came asking for Abel his brother, why didnt he say, "I killed him"? The consciousness of a wrong done. Why did Abram accept to obey and follow a strange God didderent from the ones his progenitors had known ans worshiped? How did he know that this new God was the real God? Conscience. Was there law during Sodom and Gomorah? What gave Abraham the impression that righteousness could save those nations if 10 righteous souls were found therein? How did Lot know that Homosexuality was a sin for him to have fought to protect the men under his roof? Instead he opted to give his virgin daughters to the men to defile rather than allow them sexually assault his visitors? Which law did Lot saw that Homosexuality was a sin against God? Conscience, Conscience, conscience... Can you now see that you are the one confused because you follow these things based on your senses? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:20pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Jozzy4, GOD sent othniel to save. We know that, of his own, Othniel had no power to save. GOD wrought mighty works through him. Since GOD sent Jesus Christ as Saviour, does it mean Jesus has no power of His own to save anybody? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Sitex(m): 9:21pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Mpanyi: stop being dogmatic |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 9:22pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Jews alone ko , Galatians ni. too bad the point is Saviour . which is why I cited Judges 3:9, God raised othniel as saviour , same he did with Jesus .
the Septuagint admit two renderings for this verse . and the second rendering doesn't say He called Jesus God. but this is lame since God himself call humans Gods ! forget the English tradition of small letter 2 Likes |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 9:23pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
[quote author=truthislight post=49361091] Since am aware that the Bible does not teach eternal torment in "Hell fire", Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Mark 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: @ bold I bet you can read, Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am[b] tormented in this flame.[/b] HELL IS A PLACE OF TORMENT! Luke 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. For how long would they be tormented? Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. [b]On the red, that Jesus preach about Hell fire of torment, I wish to let you know that you have lied against Jesus due to your limited knowledge on this matter. First, the word hell got into the Bible when the Bible was translated into a language that Jesus never spoke. Since Jesus never spoke Latin, he spoke Hebrew language and Greek. how could he have warned on a Latin word?now you want to start with language wahala. Saying that Jesus warned people about Hell shows how bereaved of knowledge you are.is this your best defence This should send a signal for you to reassess the things you have taken in all along as knowledge.as usual when truth has overcome a liar he chooses to attack the messenger instead of the message. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by manando1(m): 9:23pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
jnrbayano:ok thanks will do so |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Yinkamy: 9:24pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Cathony:U dont have to fight over that. Jehovah's Witnesses do not claim to be the only righteous people on earth. Bt we adhere to Bible principles like no other professed religious pple hv ever done. if u call yrself a christian, shld u nt do all u can to follow in Jesus's footsteps? ( John 8: 31) Check out all d JW's conducts and beliefs and see for yrself if they are not the ones dt can truly be called Christians. They've never fought or support wars (Micah 4: 3; Isaiah 2: 4; 2 Corinthians 10: 4, 5. They love their neighbours as themselves (Luke 10: 27; 1 Cor 16: 14;Hebrews 13: 1). They respect governmental authorities(Romans 13: 1, 2). They truly pray incessantly and sincerely, through Christ's name, worshipping God in Spirit and in truth (2 Chronicles 7: 14b; Proverbs 15: 8; 1 Thessalonians 5: 17; John 14: 6; John 4: 24). 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:25pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Jozzy4: Oh really? This is very funny. The capitel letter G there has no meaning? LOL. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 9:25pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: " Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative " John 5:19 2 Likes |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by SaffronSpice: 9:27pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:The statement about 1914 was symbolic and not a literal prediction as wrongly believed. 1914 is considered to be the year that marked the begining of the last days;you'll be convinced that it came to pass if you study the timeline of that year. The most conspicous proof being World War I started on July 24 1914. Here : www.jw.org/en/publicattions/books/bible-teach/1914-significant-year-bible-prophecy/ 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 9:27pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
truthislight:Christ was not a sinner so hell cannot affect him and he went there to release the righteous. So your rant is lame! |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:28pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Jozzy4: Answer Yes or No: can Jesus save anybody of His own? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 9:29pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
truthislight:hahaha see liar! I be given you blatant evidence. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 9:30pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:John 5:19 answers you , he said he can't do anything on his own. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by goodnews201668: 9:31pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
rottennaija: Why are you a hypocritic, thought you claim to be a Jw? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by jnrbayano(m): 9:31pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
manando1: Now pls edit your post to that effect. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:32pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Jozzy4:So, can Jesus Save anybody of His own? Yes or No? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Yinkamy: 9:33pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
Cathony: U dont have to fight over that. Jehovah's Witnesses do not claim to be the only righteous people on earth. Bt we adhere to Bible principles like no other professed religious pple hv ever done. if u call yrself a christian, shld u nt do all u can to follow in Jesus's footsteps? ( John 8: 31) Check out all d JW's conducts and beliefs and see for yrself if they are not the ones dt can truly be called Christians. They've never fought or support wars (Micah 4: 3; Isaiah 2: 4; 2 Corinthians 10: 4, 5. They love their neighbours as themselves (Luke 10: 27; 1 Cor 16: 14;Hebrews 13: 1). They respect governmental authorities(Romans 13: 1, 2). They truly pray incessantly and sincerely, through Christ's name, worshipping God in Spirit and in truth (2 Chronicles 7: 14b; Proverbs 15: 8; 1 Thessalonians 5: 17; John 14: 6; John 4: 24). 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Deadlytruth(m): 9:33pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
SaffronSpice: For any true believer in Christ only the prophesies recorded in the Bible, whether literal or symbolic can be trusted. As far as this 1914 prophesy is not in the scriptures, then it is based on human knowledge and human wisdom thus invalid and meaningless spiritually. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 9:33pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
truthislight:coming from people who are plagued with an history of wrong expectation! What if your expectation of the non existence of hell proves to be wrong, will you have the time to repent again Check very well Ecclesiastes 5:6 Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands? |
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