solite3:
is the veser about Abel?
May God help you

Jozzy4:


you are not sincere . its not 15th century , na 87 century

see your life outside!

a disciple rest on Jesus bosom . you understand , so why change the meaning of bosom when it comes to Abraham ? its hypocrisy and insincerity.

going by your definition , the area enclosed as by an embrace. in this picture a mother embrace her son, the area enclosed when both embrace each other is their. bosom . the chest!

so how could Abel a righteous man die and went to the chest of a man, Abraham whom is not yet born ?

oneolajire:


You are here again. You have refused to read through the lies your organisation uploaded. People have collated them and the links are there for you.
Face the truth, swallow your pride.

http://thewatchtowerfiles.com/did-charles-taze-https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies-predict-1914-as-christs/

http://www.bible.ca/Jw-Prophecy.htm

Read through

Repent Jesus loves yo.

oneolajire:


You are here again. You have refused to read through the lies your organisation uploaded. People have collated them and the links are there for you.
Face the truth, swallow your pride.

http://thewatchtowerfiles.com/did-charles-taze-https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies-predict-1914-as-christs/

http://www.bible.ca/Jw-Prophecy.htm

Read through

Repent Jesus loves yo.

Jozzy4:


coming from someone who can't disclose the name of his church.

show me something better ?

Jozzy4:


see how Im dey run around , na here u dey again.

And we are talking about Abraham bossom , going by the bold you accept that to take the account literal it means all the righteous people when they die go to the care or be with Abraham . (someone)

hahahahaha , Mr solite3 how can Abel die and go to the bosom/ be with Abraham whom is not yet born ?



I seriously love that color part . you said Abraham bosom is a place where the righteous go sometimes ago , so Hagar went to a place shey ?


the Genesis 16:5 make it clear that the bosom of the man Abraham is literal bosom not some imaginary places.

oya , how can Abel a righteous man die and go to the bosom of Abraham whom is not yet born ?

solite3:
its a pity you can only read but can't comprehend.

Luke 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

My use of words is confusing you.

Abraham's bosom as used in this place shows you that Abraham was in a place and Lazarus went to join him.
I don't know how you manage to snike in Abel into this whole story

this is what happen when you chat anyhow and reply for replying sake . which is why you always forget previous discussion that led to a particular point

REMINDER: I asked you earlier that to take this story literal will mean all righteous ones die and go to Abraham bosom . to which you replied positively that Abraham bosom is the place of rest of old testament saints , didn't you ?

is Abel not among the old testament saints ? can you now see you are the one who can't comprehend!

then I asked , since we all know the meaning of Bosom ( I even went extra mile to give an example of a disciple resting on Jesus bosom to show you its literal meaning )

literally then , all old testament saints are resting on the bosom of one man, Abraham ? this necessitate the question how could Abel an old testament saint die and go to the bosom of a man Abraham whom is not yet born ?

you are now diving into a subject you can't handle .
read the reminder and see how Abel is involve.

hehehehe @ bold , which place please, tell us the name of the place ?

oneolajire:



Guy, have you realised that you don't know the history oof the wasteful organisation you joined? Go to the website of the organisation and tell me whom the first leader was?
Charles Taze, a man that was born in 1852 and referred to as "pastor" . He was so famous such that most American knew his teachings, publications and false predictions. Take your time to read about the FRAUD called Charles Taze . Begin your study of Charles Taze on wikipedia, then move to ecarta encyclopedia and other. You"ll tank Jesus for making you to know you've been on the wrong track before.

Your mum wanted to make you know Jesus, unfortunately she planted the fear of the devil and his works in you. You chose to see the fear and discard the gospel. I feel what you went through all those years, I was in your shoes, I was made to know that devil is reponsible for everything. I found Jesus, I threw the theorem away, I tell Christians, the devil isnot their problem, their issiue is that they need to cknow that the devil is a defeated foe. I don't waste my time praying die, die aand die pprayers.

I found in Ephesians 2:6 that "I" have been raised together wwith Christ Jesus. Now "I" am far (Ephesian 1:20-22) above principalities and powers. I know that off hand, so I havve never feared the devil and his cohorts cos I have full dominion over them through Jesus. Some do not know this and that is why they live in fear.
Your mum might have made some mistakes as well as your church leaders , but that doesn't mean they are totally wrong.

Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. I say repent

Jozzy4:


see how Im dey run around , na here u dey again.

And we are talking about Abraham bossom , going by the bold you accept that to take the account literal it means all the righteous people when they die go to the care or be with Abraham . (someone)

hahahahaha , Mr solite3 how can Abel die and go to the bosom/ be with Abraham whom is not yet born ?



I seriously love that color part . you said Abraham bosom is a place where the righteous go sometimes ago , so Hagar went to a place shey ?


the Genesis 16:5 make it clear that the bosom of the man Abraham is literal bosom not some imaginary places.

oya , how can Abel a righteous man die and go to the bosom of Abraham whom is not yet born ?

solite3:
@ bold now you have agreed that Abraham's bosom is literal that story is real.
That story tells you there is Hell fire.

JMAN05:


According to the op, when u are civil, we can talk.

Shalom!

Jozzy4:


if Abraham bosom is literal and the story is real , kindly tell me how A righteous saint of old testament like Abel can die and go to the literal bosom of a man Abraham whom is not yet born ?

food for thought

solite3:
I ask you again is that story about Abel?

Jozzy4:

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after saying Abraham bosom is a place of rest of old testament saints , isn't it ? and Abel is not among old testament saints abi ?


you are the exact description of confusion[/s]

solite3:
you are the confused man here! Go and clear you head come back and read slowly.

Jozzy4:

solite3:
you can't deny the reality of hell! Don't say you were not warned. Repent while you have life, because HELL FIRE IS REAL!

Jozzy4:

solite3:
Jozzy after read this verses slowly and carefully,

It is a real life story Jesus has never used names of real people in parable.


Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

CAPTIVATOR:


is this what God told Adam in the garden of Eden ?

the bold , anything that doesn't have life is a non living entity

CAPTIVATOR:



you are trying too hard to defend your myths . this story in itself doesn't prove the myth it rather expose it for the lie it is.


1 - are u aware that the greek word rendered " hell " is hades usually translated GRAVE ?


2 - how could an immaterial spirit possess a tongue and thirst for water ? the use of eyes , tongue , water and fingers in this parable is a BODILY description not a spirit .

solutionsnow:


I pity your personal local government. You read the bible with eyes blocked 2 Cor 3:15 -17.
I know you didn't read the write up done by the OP, if you did, you wouldn't have been saying this rubbish.

All what the OP wrote are true.

solite3:



This should tell you hell is a real place.

Have you seen spirit before to know if they don't have tongue, eyes or any other bodily description?
Stop discrediting the bible because of ignorance.
Hell is real! The bible is clear about it.

Jozzy4:


all this because he asked , is this what God told Adam in the garden of Eden ?

solutionsnow:



Was Jesus preaching the garden of Eden or its restoration? No no no. So preach the heavenly kingdom Jesus preached of.

You guys are obsessed with inheriting the earth, you want to inherit Microsoft and Facebook. Day-dreamers. The creator of heaven and earth says they will be destroyed by fire. Open your eyes, read the bible.

solutionsnow:
Was Jesus preaching the garden of Eden or its restoration? No no no. So preach the heavenly kingdom Jesus preached of. You guys are obsessed with inheriting the earth, you want to inherit Microsoft and Facebook. Day-dreamers. The creator of heaven and earth says they will be destroyed by fire. Open your eyes, read the bible.

Jozzy4:
Read your Bible : psalm 37:9-11 the righteous will live FOREVER on earth, na jozzy4 write am ?