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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by AjaanaOka(m): 4:22pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Byko899: Ikwerre does not sound closer to Anambra than Nsukka, Abakiliki and Ngwa. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Udmaster(m): 4:23pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Sultanchidi:And whats the difference between Igbo and ibo? |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Clairvoyant(m): 4:26pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Shym3xx:have you made sense now? 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by dadabashua1(m): 4:26pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Adiola:will be better if you actually see them as brothers don't mind the few radicals... |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Manamax(m): 4:26pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
NICENEDU29: l concur with you my brother. Ndoni in Present day Rivers state is also part of Ibo. Prior to the creation of Delta State, Ndoni was part of our LGA in defunct Bendel State. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by HenryThegreat1(m): 4:27pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
adidasBarca:. Yes, I'm from Agbor but i can't speak igbo neither will igbo man speaks or understand agbor 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by nextstep(m): 4:28pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Udmaster: Africa was once a modern coined name. As was America. As was Nigeria. As was Yoruba at one time. As was Igbo or Eko. Why kick up when a new term (50 years old actually) is coined? About the Anioma man leading the coup... as far as most Nigerian's were and are still concered: "Ibo-speaking means Igbo." This is simply not true. Even Anioma leadership has been awakening to the fact that we are in fact not Igbo. The great irony is that the people who remind us that we are not "true Igbo" are non other than Igbos themselves. To wit: Witness Anioma absent from the map of Biafra Witness the "invasion" of Mid-Western Nigeria by Biafran forces. You can't invade what is your own Witness how they fled across the Niger and blew up the bridge to leave their so-called "brethren" to be massacered at the hands of the Nigerian side. Witness how the vast majority of leadership in Igbo matters is from "core Igbo" Witness the creation of Ebonyi state, rather than Anioma, when Igbos did a backface and withdrew their support for Aniomas at the last moment for political gain. Witness the arrogance and contempt with which they proclaim themselves and put Anioma people down. You can't see all these and accept that we're all the same. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Sultanchidi(m): 4:28pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Abagworo:c u don't get my point am a proud igbo bt from experience and those of pple close to me. D way d igbos from across d Niger treat themselves is not d same way dey treat d aniomas. So of dem wil boldly tell u dat u are not one of dem and that u are from South South not East. D estaerners are d major reason y aniomas deny to b igbos 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Udmaster(m): 4:31pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
HenryThegreat1:Agbor is a dialect. Can an enuani man in Asaba understand Agbor? A language is a combination of identical dialects. Agbor is just like Ohafia dialect, Can you hear Ohafia? Ohafia dialect is different from Onitsha own? Can you hear onitsha dialect? Does it mean that Ohafia and Onitsha man are different tribes? 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Igboid: 4:31pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
nextstep: The truth is that no ethnic group is 100% homogeneous, at points the ethnic group meets another Ethnic group, there are bound to be admixtures from the border ethnic groups. If there are Igala, Edo or other ethnic group migrants in Anioma, they are extremely in the minority and were totally assimilated by the larger Igbo groups there. This is why Anioma became an Igbo speaking enclave, it had indigenous Igbo speaking people who were in the majority from the very beginning. This very fact is highlighted by the fact that right within Anioma, we still have the Yoruboid speaking Odiani people who migrated from Ondo and who despite being surrounded by Igbo speaking groups, still maintained their Yoruboid Olukumi language, even though they now speak Igbo language( Enu-ani) as a second language, thus they are bilingual. Anioma is still an Igbo word coined out by Dennis Osadebey who himself was a proud Igbo man and a member of Igbo union of the old, using Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika and Oshimili initials ie ANIO, and addition MA to it. Without Igbo, Anioma has no meaning. It's meaning is only found in Igbo. 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by cyrilamx(m): 4:32pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
RealCJ:you called Hausas/Yorubas cowards, but they are benevolent hosts. You are like tick feeding on their blood, you won't leave their lands alone. Your survival depends on the magnanimity of them. You scream biafra yet you sit like olumu rock in the region of tribes you so detest, while fanning the ember of persecution. What a paradox! To be candid, the igbos need other tribes mire than those tribes need them. Just take the population ratio of igbos in other lands to their hosting other tribes. Even before amalgamation, the igbos have been in romance with the Hausas. This tell why Zik's mum was from Niger state and him born in the north. For those claiming igbanke land, dare not if you don't want to share the fate of the Onyeregbulems. The binis are friendly and few, but you don't toil with the tail of the cobra. The Benin monarch won't take such arrant nonsense from some marauding conquistadors or land grabbers. If the igbos are really sincere about Biafra, all of them should return home and burn down the Niger bridge. By such act, they would have forcefully severe their ties with the rest of this political entity. Until they do this, I guess they are in self delusion because economic ties us their first priority than cultural affiliation.... 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by NICENEDU29: 4:33pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
[quote author=supersystems post=49384090] Mr. man, permit me to say that your argument is so illogical. Reason being that no reasonable man will agree with you on the fact that Delta Igbo is a nice description to be given to the Aniomas and the rest of them. So it is either you call their tribe Igbo or u call it Delta simplicita. Do not add "Igbo" to "Delta" so that they will know that they are on their own & hav nothing at all to do with Igbo. Again, how can u be bringing the division by saying that they should better be referred to as Delta Igbo & not Igbo when u know too well that most of them bear Igbo names, they speak & understand Igbo language though with little variations & they practise Igbo cultures? Even the name "Anioma" itself is suggestive of Igbo. So pls dont call them Delta Igbo when u stll claim that they are not Igbos, because doing so is as good as shooting urself in the leg. Besides, Delta is NOT a tribe but a State. So tell me: Under which major ethnic group is Delta State classified? 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 4:34pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
...during d civil war d "igbos" blew up d niger bridge n left ika n asaba to their fate n 4dat reason they av always hated igbos n prefer 2be called anioma or ika rather than igbo... 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by nextstep(m): 4:37pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Igboid: What you've said makes sense. But, as you can see Sir Osadebey himself (an Anioma man from Asaba) recognized the need for a new name to more accurately describe the people of Anioma. You're right it is an Igbo word, no doubt, but that does not translate that the people it describes are Igbo. Just as the word Nigeria (Niger-area) does not mean its people are English. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 4:37pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Udmaster:Anybody can write rivers state government website? You are really a blinded by ipob mentality 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Shym3xx: 4:38pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Clairvoyant: Yes. I kicked the knowledge you need to get into ya thick skull. Stop trying to claim everyone and stop forcing ya identity on people who have no ancestral connection with you. A lot of those people can trace their ancestral lineage to Bini. So why try to turn them Igbo? The only reason why Igbos are there in the first place is cos Igbos were slaves everywhere around that axis all the way to present day Rivers. They came as slaves and later outnumbered the indigenous people and later settled there. Why do think Binis call Igbos, "Igbons"? Igbon means slave. Everything is well documented and I will post excerpts from the accounts of British explorers in the 1800s in the "Liverpool to Onitsha" records. Igbos had the highest population in that axis (or even the whole today's Nigeria) back then and they were about 4milliion. However, the Igbos who weren't in Igboland were slaves in the other places. It is well documented. So, why would slaves declare their own identity on the people they met there? 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Eastlink(m): 4:39pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
oluole:Who sampled the statistics, you from far away west or an independent observer. That means you also sampled the Ijebus, Aworis and others who deny Yoruba. The Igbo nation cannot be balkanized by foreign voices or dissenters within. Any group claiming a new ethnicity as long as they aren't willing enough to change their Igbo language, shared cultures, traditions and customs to look completely non-Igboid are just wasting their time. Nobody is taking them serious, not even the british and other europeans who studied us even before we knew ourselves nor the farthest boundary of Igboland. They (deniers) are just jokers and that joke ends anytime Nigeria is dismembered. Na then, them go see Oba. All the idiots cheering them on will abandon them when that time comes or when (God forbid) another civil war beckons. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by chukzyblingz(m): 4:41pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Udmaster:Stop saying what you don't know. What is a dialect and what is a language? This question about dialect and language is something even linguists can't answer. Before you quote me, go and make your research because I don't have time to argue with blind people 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by adidasBarca: 4:41pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
HenryThegreat1: I hav been to agbor b4 in delta state,nice place to be 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by nextstep(m): 4:43pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Udmaster: Maybe we're not saying the same thing, hence the appearance of flawed analysis. But along your vein, Nnewi, Onitsha, Arochukwu are all recognized to be Igbo places. Lagos, Ibadan, Ile-Ife are generally recognized to be Yoruba places. Asaba, Agbor, Ibusa should also be generally recognized to be Anioma places (not Igbo places). This is our main point. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by adidasBarca: 4:43pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
biggz82: Ok |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by klassicview: 4:44pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
there's nothing like Delta Igbo or what we have is Delta Fulani, Delta Hausa and Delta Yoruba. it's only a fool that will be deceived towards answering Delta Igbo. what have is IGBO. I can't imagine Abia Igbo, IMO Igbo, Anambra Ibgo, Enugu and Ebonyi Igbo respectively. be wise now; the call you Delta Igbo and you accepted because of your stupidity. |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Eastlink(m): 4:45pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
chukzyblingz:Please explain to me the meaning of dialects and that of language. Let me learn something new today. |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Unimaginable123: 4:45pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
HenryThegreat1:is agbor a tribe or a town? 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Igboid: 4:46pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Sultanchidi: Lol! Why will you allow any SEner treat you anyhow? Does he have more claim to Igbo than an Anioma man? The first pan Igbo conference on Igbo language held in Asaba in 1906. When you don't know your history, people tend to push you around. When next a so called SEner tries to put you down, sit him down and tell him why he is the fake Igbo and not you. Was Zik not from Onitsha, a town that shares more in common with Anioma than the rest of SE? In SE we also call each other names, Anambra people are supposed to be ndi agbaenu that loves money and are into rituals, Abakaliki people are supposed to be backward people, Imo people are well "onye imo" which as far as an Anambra supremacist is concerned is a derogatory word. Enugu people are Wawa people. All those things are little sentiments found all over any ethnic nation, for example in England, th. Southern English consider the Northern English people to be less enlightened than themselves, and find their English accents funny. I have heard Anioma people tell me that SEners are ritualists, 419ners and greedy people, and that's why they will never accept being kin with us, but when I sit such people down to explain their accusations, they turn out blank. You don't take those things to heart, people will always be people with their ignorance. Was Uwaechue not made Ohaneze Ndiigbo president when it was Anioma turn? Today it's Ebonyi turn and Igariwey, and Ebonyi man who most Igbos including me can't even understand the meaning of his name is occupying that Post today. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Udmaster(m): 4:47pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
chukzyblingz:tell us the relationship btw Dialect and Language?we are waiting. |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Unimaginable123: 4:47pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
nextstep:is anioma not an igbo word? a variant of anaoma - good land |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Ubenedictus(m): 4:47pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Ngozi123:There are binis who now anioma, very many villages in onitcha-ugbo goes by d prefix 'idumu' that is a bini word, it shows that the time they were named the people had a bini-ish language, the history of issele uku says they migrated from bini. i also know a chiefly anioma family and their anscentral name is isibor, which is bini not ika or iboid. There is a lot of bini anscentry in anioma. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 4:47pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
NICENEDU29:I should "shut up", that is quite unfortunate, I wont respond with insults but with reason, Being a member an ethnic nationality is by ancestry not only by language & culture(cos dis changes with time) if you put an article or comment online, you back it up with evidence not hear say references, thats is why I showed you the River state Government official site. http://riversstate.net.ng/people-and-culture/ If u feel this isn't valid then you have been brainwashed by d Nnamdi kanu crew. 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Kingsley1000(m): 4:48pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Aniomas and ikweres are not igbo,most of them hate being refered to igbo i dont knw why 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by bi0nics: 4:49pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
I don't see any difference tho'.. The shii is annoying.. |
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by nextstep(m): 4:51pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Unimaginable123: Anioma is actually a coined word, that also conveniently means ani-oma good land. Aniocha Ndowka Ika Oshimili + MA = ANIOMA Is Nigeria not an English word? A variant of Niger-Area. Not sure that this means Nigerians are English people... 4 Likes 1 Share |
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