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Hopefully by November during IDEAS 2016, we would know the number of JF-17s Nigeria ordered.



I hope the Air Force doesn't fall our hands, you don't train over 500 new pilots for 18 JF-17s. 24 JF-17 would seem a more reasonable figure, since they won't be a stop-gap unlike the F-7s.

The delivery of the first of Zambia's new HAIC L-15
multirole jet fighters was confirmed during the Africa
Aerospace & Defence (AAD) exhibition held in South
Africa from 14-18 September, when two were
displayed at the show.


An official from the China National Aero-Technology
Import & Export Corporation (CATIC), which promoted
the aircraft at the show, was reluctant to discuss the
numbers involved, but told IHS Jane's that the first
batch of "more than two" L-15s arrived in Zambia in
July and the rest are expected to be delivered by early
2017. A CATIC official told IHS Jane's in 2014 that
Zambia had ordered six L-15s.
It was confirmed during the event that Zambia is
receiving the L-15AFT attack/fighter/trainer version as
opposed to the L-15AJT advanced jet trainer that
recently entered service with the People's Liberation
Army Air Force (PLAAF) as the JL-10.
Major Paul Besa, one of the first Zambian L-15 pilots,
told IHS Jane's that the delivery of the L-15s marked a
milestone for the ZAF as it now has a third-generation
multirole fighter with fly-by-wire avionics. He said the
aircraft are being flown by the Air Defence
Command's Lusaka-based Squadron 15.
Despite the name of the command, he stressed that
the ZAF's L-15AFTs would be used in both the air
defence and attack roles, saying that Zambia has
ordered the full-range of weapons.


In the air-to-air role these include PL-5E short-range
air-to-air missiles on the two outermost hardpoints.
The air-to-ground weapons include a 23 mm PC-2AI
gun pod on the centreline hardpoint and a
combination of HF-18D pods for 57 mm rockets, 250
kg or 500 kg bombs, and air-to-surface missiles on the
remaining four hardpoints.
Maj Besa said that the ZAF had ordered both LS-6
GPS/INS guided bombs and YJ-9E air-to-surface
missiles. The latter is the export version of China's
TL-10.

Henry240:
Nigeria has signed a memorandum of understanding
covering the sale of the joint Pakistani-Chinese PAC/
CAC JF-17 Thunder multirole fighter and a contract is
expected to be finalised by November, a senior
official from the Pakistan's Defence Export Promotion
Organization (DEPO) told IHS Jane's during the Africa
Aerospace and Defence (AAD) show held in South
Africa from 14-18 September.


The official declined to say how many JF-17s Nigeria
would order, but said the announcement was
expected during the IDEAS show that will be held in
Karachi in November.


He also declined to confirm that Nigeria will be the
first export operator of the JF-17 as Myanmar has
ordered the aircraft from China.
Nigeria's intention to acquire the fighter was revealed
in the federal budget document that was released in
January, which included NGN5 billion (USD25 million)
for three JF-17s as well NGN2.06 billion for 10 PAC
Super Mushshak basic trainers.
The DEPO official said that discussions were still
continuing with both the Nigerian Air Force and the
army's new aviation wing regarding the acquisition of
the Super Mushshak trainers.

heavenly father let these Ogas not buy less than 30 JF-17s and let dem include local assembly!!
oh lord let them forget mushshak and look towards developing The Farawa light trainer

e b like say I go visit MFM prayer city

Odunayaw:
heavenly father let these Ogas not buy less than 30 JF-17s and let dem include local assembly!!
oh lord let them forget mushshak and look towards developing The Farawa light trainer

e b like say I go visit MFM prayer city

LMFAO!! Dude.

AAD 2016

Africa Truck

Turkish military base in Somalia (still undergoing development). What's with all this Turkish interest in Somalia?
Any ideas ?

tdayof:
How much does andoni-karaduwa class cost the Nigerian navy locally?

NNS Karaduwa should cost the navy around $350 - 500, 000.

Rooivalk.

On her nose is the Airbus Argos-II HD/HDT sensor house.

jakeporeshenko:
Turkish military base in Somalia (still undergoing development). What's with all this Turkish interest in Somalia?
Any ideas ?

I keep wondering myself. Africaken should be able to answer this.

Nigerian Air Force base.

MI-24V, Alpha jet, MIG-21 and F-7NI

Henry240:


NNS Karaduwa should cost the navy around $350 - 500, 000.

Thanks. Any idea on centenary price tag?

Henry240:
Nigerian Air Force base.

MI-24V, Alpha jet, MIG-21 and F-7NI

Are those Mig operational?

tdayof:

Thanks. Any idea on centenary price tag?

The Centenary and Unity cost around $90 million.

tdayof:
Are those Mig operational?

The MIGs are to be transferred to the Air Force museum in Abuja, when that is completed. They aren't operational, hence the requirement to get the F-7s in 2003, which were meant as a stop-gap measure until a suitable multi-role fighter jet could be purchased.

Henry240:


The MIGs are to be transferred to the Air Force museum in Abuja, when that is completed. They aren't operational, hence the requirement to get the F-7s in 2003, which were meant as a stop-gap measure until a suitable multi-role fighter jet could be purchased.

I think we should do some reverse engineering than this museum things.
Thanks for the information tho.

tdayof:


I think we should do some reverse engineering than this museum things.
Thanks for the information tho.

what you think a F7 is?

Henry240:


The Centenary and Unity each cost around $90 million per vessel.

Damn That's alot. Stealth isn't cheap.

I bet if it was manufactured locally we could have cut cost. wish NESL has such capability.

andrewza:



what you think a F7 is?

I am talking about we doing reverse enginering and not some Chinese stuff.

tdayof:
Damn That's alot. Stealth isn't cheap.

I bet if it was manufactured locally we could have cut cost. wish NESL has such capability.

That actually not that bad cost wise

tdayof:


I am talking about we doing reverse enginering and not some Chinese stuff.

the F7 is a reversed engineered mig21. Any case those mig 21s and the F7 are not something Nigeria needs. NAF needs a proper multi role advanced fighter witch they seem to be getting.

tdayof:


I think we should do some reverse engineering than this museum things.
Thanks for the information tho.

We are reverse engineering and researching on old used platforms. Museums would fetch additional income to the Air Force.

MikeCZA:
Rooivalk.

On her nose is the Airbus Argos-II HD/HDT sensor house.

Don't you think putting specs would also help us understand why the sensors were changed?

andrewza:


the F7 is a reversed engineered mig21. Any case those mig 21s and the F7 are not something Nigeria needs. NAF needs a proper multi role advanced fighter witch they seem to be getting.

Yea I get your point. We are kind of really far behind when it comes to aerospace engineering. There's definitely something to learn from a Mig 21 for a country like Nigeria.

Henry240:


The Centenary and Unity each cost around $90 million per vessel.

the two p18n OPVs cost $42mil each

Nigeria ordered two P18Ns from CSOC in April
2012 [28] for US$42 million each. [19] The first
was slated to be completed in China, with the
final 50–70% of the second being completed at
the Nigerian Naval Shipyard in Port Harcourt ;
CSOC was contracted to upgrade the shipyard
to facilitate this. [28]

tdayof:
Damn That's alot. Stealth isn't cheap.

I bet if it was manufactured locally we could have cut cost. wish NESL has such capability.

We don't yet have that capability, however there is potential for growth. The Karaduwa represents one of such potential.

Odunayaw:
the two p18n OPVs cost $42mil each
Nigeria ordered two P18Ns from CSOC in April 2012 [28] for US$42 million each. [19] The first was slated to be completed in China, with the final 50–70% of the second being completed at the Nigerian Naval Shipyard in Port Harcourt ; CSOC was contracted to upgrade the shipyard to facilitate this. [28]

Thanks, my error then. 90 million for both ships corrected.

Henry240:


We don't yet have that capability, however there is potential for growth. The Karaduwa represents one of such potential.

The karaduwa is really something cool. The navy is getting indigenous in a very fast rate while the Airforce is still on gulma?

Odunayaw:
the two p18n OPVs cost $42mil each

Nigeria ordered two P18Ns from CSOC in April
2012 [28] for US$42 million each. [19] The first
was slated to be completed in China, with the
final 50–70% of the second being completed at
the Nigerian Naval Shipyard in Port Harcourt ;
CSOC was contracted to upgrade the shipyard
to facilitate this. [28]

NNS unity should better be on her way home.

tdayof:


NNS unity should better be on her way home.

It is on its way from China. ...I know a couple of people sailing with it right now

Stephandeswardt:



It is on its way from China. ...I know a couple of people sailing with it right now

Good to know. When did it leave? I know some delegate were here last week to check on it.