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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:34pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:

you just jump into an ocean you have no knowledge about .

My aim of bringing up this verse is to let you know your question regarding if Jesus is a true or false god is very wrong .


Jesus reffered to his Father as God , saying only his Father is good ... your allegation that Father doesnt appear in this verse hold no water until you can tell me who Jesus called God at john 14:1 since father doesnt appear there too !


now the context indicates that [b]Jesus is not good in the absolute sense of the word .[/] that doesnt make him a sinner or a bad person either . in this case he is a good person , but not good in the complete sense of the word , Only the Father reserve that !

This how JWs deny Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not good in the absolute sense? So Jesus is partially good? Jesus is not perfectly good?sad

It's becoming very clear that JWs are not Christians.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:38pm On Sep 16, 2016
I'm gonna keep this here as a memorial to JW doctrines. sad

Jozzy4:
Jesus is not good in the absolute sense of the word.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 12:42pm On Sep 16, 2016
Mrbllymer:
I commend him for maturity displaced while answering the questions forwarded to him.

For those claiming Charles isn't their founder, take your time to read through this and digest

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

As for questions I have none to ask NOR answer any, interpret the scripture as it's revealed by the holy spirit unto you.
PEACE

You appreciated dear. The thing is, from the point of view of an outsider, they would see Russell as having found the religion "Jehovahs witnesses" because they see him champion the group that led to that religion. But Russell himself did not say he founded anything new. In fact, Russell did not say we should answer Jehovahs witnesses nor did he even know we would answer it in 1931. Russell died before we embrace the name.

JW's do not have a human leader, if we do, we would say so like other churches do. It just not scriptural to have a human as your leader. Matt 23:10.
Remember, Wikipedia is not a good source of info.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Ken4Christ: 12:42pm On Sep 16, 2016
JMAN05:
There seem to be many questions on this board regarding the bible, God, lifestyle, science etc, answers have also been offered. However, you might get a reasonable answer to your questions if you try and see how Jehovah's Witnesses proffer solution to those questions.

Of course, reading from our websites, can assist you with an authoritative answer from the field of JWs. (ie, www.jw.org; tv.jw.org; wol.jw.org). Jehovah's witnesses also have an application which can help someone read different versions of the bible like KJV, Bryington, ASV etc. You can also download our journals in ur own language inside this app and watch some videos. Go to play store and search for JWLibrary app.

The witnesses in ur vicinity can also assist in answering your questions. You can also send me an email for a quiet discussion devoid of distractions common in Nairaland.

But you can post ur questions here too, let's see how we can handle it, but please be civil and open minded. I won't respond to apostates or apostate sites or those I view to be unserious. I might end it if one is insincere.

I do not have answers to every question. Others like Biblespeaks, dolphinheart, truthislight can contribute also.

1. You said, Jesus did not resurrect bodily, please kindly tell us what happened to his body with biblical proofs.

2. Tell us what it means to be born again and how one can be born again.

3. Jesus said he is coming back to take us home. Please explain this to us. When will it happen and who will be taken home?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 12:42pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:
I'm gonna keep this here as a memorial to JW doctrines. sad


Mark 10:18
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 12:44pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


This how JWs deny Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not good in the absolute sense? So Jesus is partially good? Jesus is not perfectly good?sad

It's becoming very clear that JWs are not Christians.

speaking the truth = not Christian . hahaha haha , Mark 10:18 is always there for you to read when you understand that when Jesus say God , he is reffering to his Father . ( compare John 14:1 )

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:47pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4,

If Jesus Christ was not good enough, how could He have been a perfect sacrifice for sin?

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 12:50pm On Sep 16, 2016
Deadlytruth:


This does not answer the question.
Neither the disciples in Acts nor the Thessalonians had a wrong expectation as their expectations were both found in the scriptures (Old Testament). What was wrong about their expectations (prophecies in the actual sense) was time of fulfilment. In both cases Jesus and Paul respectively made them understand that their expectations were correct but that were going to happen much later in the future. This is not same with the JWs whose expectation was nowhere to be found in the scriptures but purely man-made and hence failed to happen and never likely to happen in future. That is the context in which the first guy accused you people of being associated with mistakes which is itself an evidence of not really being guided by God but by human wisdom.

Which of our expectations were not bible based please?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 12:54pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Jozzy4,

If Jesus Christ was not good enough,


learn to comprehend , thats in comparison with God , the Father . Mark 10:18


how could He have been a perfect sacrifice for sin?


he was a perfect sacrifice for sin. and the only perfect man who humbly do Gods will till the end .
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:57pm On Sep 16, 2016
sad

Jozzy4:
Jesus is not good in the absolute sense of the word .
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 1:05pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4,

You said that Jesus is not good in the absolute sense of it.

The Bible calls Jesus the Word of GOD.(Jn 1:1) Are you saying the Word of GOD is not good in the absolute sense of it?

The Bible calls Jesus the Wisdom of GOD;(1 Cor. 1:30) Are you saying the Wisdom of GOD is not good in the absolute sense of it?

Jesus called Himself the truth(Jn. 14:6) Are you saying the truth is not good in the absolute sense of it?

Jesus called Himself the Way to GOD(Jn. 14:6) Are you saying that as the Way to GOD, Jesus is not good enough?

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 1:22pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Jozzy4,

You said that Jesus is not good in the absolute sense of it.

The Bible calls Jesus the Word of GOD.(Jn 1:1) Are you saying the Word of GOD is not good in the absolute sense of it?

The Bible calls Jesus the Wisdom of GOD;(1 Cor. 1:30) Are you saying the Wisdom of GOD is not good in the absolute sense of it?

Jesus called Himself the truth(Jn. 14:6) Are you saying the truth is not good in the absolute sense of it?

Jesus called Himself the Way to GOD(Jn. 14:6) Are you saying that as the Way to GOD, Jesus is not good enough?

all this because you dont know who Jesus called God at Mark 10:18! you have been distanced from our heavenly father ehn


oga, Read John 14:1 and know whom Jesus called God ! when you are through , you would see that those questions become irrelevant
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 1:26pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:


all this because you dont know who Jesus called God at Mark 10:18! you have been distanced from our heavenly father ehn

oga, Read John 14:1 and know whom Jesus called God ! when you are through , you would see that those questions become irrelevant

Answer the questions, please?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 1:28pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Answer the questions, please?

i cant do your homework for you , man read JOhn 14:1 to see how Jesus use the word " God " ? was he reffering to himself ?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Emusan(m): 1:29pm On Sep 16, 2016
dolphinheart:
hope you are not expecting me to accept all translations of the same verse. seems you did not understand what I said, how can I answer such question when I've not studied all verses in one single translations talk less of all translations. I don't even know all translations, but as far as my present studies has taken me, I've got no issues with the NWT Yet!

Do you accept ALL TRANSLATIONS in NWT? Simple!
@bold-lol...but you got issue with other translations.

I told you why and when I use different translations.

But not accept some verses translation.

do you accept all the translations of aLl verses? you yourself know you do not support all the verses in the translations you mentioned , why do you ask a question you know the truth about.
These translations translated the scriptures differently from each other which you are aware of, it seems you just want to argue!

Who told you i don't accept the translation of ALL VERSES in those version. My friend there is no version I list there that I don't accept.

No! They didn't translate the scripture differently but each uses different mode/style in translation which doesn't change the meaning of writer's mind. In other word, what ever you read in KJV has the same meaning in NIV.

your views, nothing I can do about that!

That's the simple Truth.

can't do that, not studied all verses in any single translations.

But you can do that for NWT which simply means any translation that doesn't render John 1:1 as "...and the word was a god" is no no no for you.

you just agreed with me, fact is there are differences in scholars views as to the words and meaning of verses in the scriptures. you examine such facts and you as a reader comes to your own personal conclusions.

You examine such fact through

your opinion, like I said, their is little I can do if you have issues with the source of my beliefs, never said my personal beliefs are new!

FACT!!! Have you stopped going up and down with Watchtower & Awake in your bag knocking on people's door

My question still remains; do you accept ALL VERSES in NWT
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Emusan(m): 1:31pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:
who exactly?

Answer my question and stop perambulating.

Is Jesus GOOD or NOT?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 1:34pm On Sep 16, 2016
Emusan:


Answer my question and stop perambulating.

Is Jesus GOOD or NOT?

though of moral excellence , Jesus reject the title "Good " , he reserve it only for his Father . Mark 10:18
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Emusan(m): 1:35pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:
speaking the truth = not Christian . hahaha haha , Mark 10:18 is always there for you to read when you understand that when Jesus say God , he is reffering to his Father . ( compare John 14:1 )

You know how to dribble and dodge question, the simple question we're demanding of you since is, is Jesus GOOD or NOT

You started jumping up & down like a monkey!
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Emusan(m): 1:37pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:
though of moral excellence , Jesus reject the title "Good " , he reserve it only for his Father . Mark 10:18

So which means He is GOOD but only on MORAL EXCELLENCE Jesus is not GOOD, Yes or NO?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 1:38pm On Sep 16, 2016
Emusan

Who told you i don't accept the translation of ALL VERSES in those version. My friend there is no version I list there that I don't accept.

okay ! Numbers 11:17 KJV said the holyspirit is an " it " ? do you agree with that rendering ?

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 1:38pm On Sep 16, 2016
[quote author=Emusan post=49412477]
So which means of MORAL EXCELLENCE Jesus is not GOOD, Yes or NO?[/quote
Mark 10:18
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Emusan(m): 1:40pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:
okay ! Numbers 11:17 KJV said the holyspirit is an " it " ? do you agree with that rendering ?

Not only in Numbers 11:17 KJV used IT in some places for HOLY spirit, that doesn't mean the IT usage is totally wrong.

Now your brother who is using KJV, did he accept KJV when used HE for Holy SPIRIT?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 1:42pm On Sep 16, 2016
Emusan:


Not only in Numbers 11:17 KJV used IT in some places for HOLY spirit, that doesn't mean the IT usage is wrong.

grin grin your god no. 3 is an it , i thought its a person ! chai
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 1:44pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:


i cant do your homework for you , man read JOhn 14:1 to see how Jesus use the word " God " ? was he reffering to himself ?

If He is not GOD, why did Jesus Christ tell us to believe in Him? Bearing in mind that GOD is the only Person in whom we should believe.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 1:47pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:


though of moral excellence , Jesus reject the title "Good " , he reserve it only for his Father . Mark 10:18

Show us where in the Bible Jesus rejects the title "Good", whether in the moral sense or whatever.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 1:49pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:


am not dodging am answering , and your response to the question I asked will help you find answer because there is something wrong in your reasoning, which had to be corrected first.


God himself made Moses a God to pharaoh , is Moses a false God ? did God made a false God ?
@ bold I m not aware that God created another God maybe you should enlighten me but I can tell you that moses is no God. What I m aware of is that moses was made to pharoah in the stead of God because pharoah refuses to submit to the true God but moses himself is a false God.
grin
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by omojeesu(m): 1:49pm On Sep 16, 2016
[quote author=JMAN05 post=49408697][/quote]
Are YOU a CHILD of God, Jehovah
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Emusan(m): 1:50pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:
grin grin your god no. 3 is an it , i thought its a person ! chai

And your God and Saviour are also it since they were referred to as IT in the Bible.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 1:57pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:


mr , see my response to doctoralien . and point of correction , when Jesus says God , he is reffererring to his Father. read John 14:1 .

unless you want to tell me God in john 14:1 is Jesus himself ! grin
jozzy answer my question! And doctor allien ask you a question did Jesus mention his father.
Is Jesus God? If yes then he is Good! So your trying to say that God there means the father will mean Jesus is not God which will invalidate the bible it self.
Jozzy if Jesus is not good why will he refer to himself as the good shepherd.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 2:01pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4:


though of moral excellence , Jesus reject the title "Good " , he reserve it only for his Father . Mark 10:18
na wao when has being good become a title again?
Jozzy is Jesus a true God or a false god?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 2:02pm On Sep 16, 2016
Jozzy4,

Jesus says none is good but GOD.

Jn. 1:1 says Jesus is GOD.

What do you have to say?

Bear in mind that the same word "GOD" is found in both Mark 10:18 and Jn. 1:1
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 2:16pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Show us where in the Bible Jesus rejects the title "Good", whether in the moral sense or whatever.

Mark 10:18

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