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Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by bukatyne(f): 7:51am On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: First, I believe a romantic relationship is different from a platonic one and if you were gay : , you would buy for your men Second, not every girl is tripped about gifts; everyone has different love language. Third, some ladies believe their men should spoil them with gifts and they reciprocate too (love is all about giving) Fourth, that a woman believes she's equal to a man doesn't make her a saint. It is just that: a belief. Sounding like a 7 point agenda. 1 Like |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 1:26pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Lol, again you digress. The issue of headship is a completely unrelated thing, and you're trying to juxtapose it with this conversation. But I'll bite. Yes, headship in a home has absolutely nothing to do with who earns more - but TRUE feminists don't even believe in headship na, isn't this where the woman's problem begun? She is a feminist but still wants to enjoy the perks of being married to a man who earns more— she's in essence, desperately trying to merge 'her innate natural feminine desires of being catered for' with 'her acquired feminist ideology of being strong and independent.' Unfortunately, smart niggas like Franco know you just can't merge those two, they're contradictory. A woman is either for one or for the other, cant have it both ways. 2 Likes |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 1:34pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: So headship has nothing to do with who earns more but being a feminist does? A woman can only be a feminist if she earns more but a man is always the head no matter how much he makes? 1 Like |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 1:35pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
bukatyne: Well said! And His Majesty Crackhaus himself would not deny a woman any of the rights he mentioned in his first paragraph? Would he? |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 1:43pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:That line in bold is exactly why I see women who don't understand or fully grasp the movement as totally confused. You don't use equality and special treatment in the same sentence - you should know that the idea of feminism is birthed from the need to lift women up from that inferior position patriarchy placed them, onto a completely level-playing field with men. On a level-playing field, there's isn't such a thing as special treatment anymore. Special treatment is given to people who are weak, handicapped, aged, or to children with special medical needs like imbecility. 2 Likes |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 1:47pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: Fixed! So demanding special treatment makes them equal eventually. 1 Like |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 1:57pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
bukatyne:You already understand it, you're just fighting it. You must see a woman (especially yours i.e. wife/gf) as inferior before treating her well?I tagged you on a reply to Tèaroses on the boy's thread. That's the answer to this question. Does your woman have to see you as inferior before treating you right too?I am already being and will be treated right all round on account of being a man, isn't that what you feminists are angry about? What is your definition of treating well sef? Buying her gifts? Spending money? No respect of her feelings ? Opinions? Her personality?Special treatment includes only some of the above. I respect everyone who deserves to be respected regardless of gender. Besides, if the women of yore felt pampered/specially respected, you wouldn't hear of feminism.They were pampered bukatyne—staying home and not working, but living big on the earnings of their husbands. Feminism was a movement for rights to vote, education, and equal representation. End of! It's people like you that started bringing it into family settings and causing problems for yourselves, just like the woman in the story. Again, do a poll and ask how many women (anti-feminists) who do not believe in your first paragraph, then this discussion will be sweeter.You don't need to pass on my special treatment, I'm not your husband and I wasn't offering it to you. 2 Likes |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 2:15pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Lol... if I question your comprehension ability now, you will start having muscle spasms. Giving equality to a woman who claims to be behind, puts her on the same level as men. Special treatment for this woman after getting on the same level as men implies that she either still subconsciously sees herself as behind a man OR she deliberately wants to be made even more special, which in turn places men behind— Counter-productive, do you unzerszand? |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 2:20pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Creatures with a pe.nis didn't demand for special treatment, these creatures were born into a world where having a pe.nis guaranteed it - this is the natural order you people are not happy with abi? |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 2:35pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Why would I deny her those rights when she isn't fighting me everyday trying to prove how strong she is? Strong women with strong head who constantly fight their men covertly or overtly for equal headship in the home, hardly have it easy - I haven't met one that has had a successful, long, and beautiful marriage...well, unless the man is a total walkover AKA mangina. Do you think your hero Beyoncé would still be married if she didn't shut up anytime Jay tells her to shut up? 2 Likes |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 2:43pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:You're just confusing yourself and making me bail you out constantly. Is you people's brand of feminism now about earning? Lol... You are the one coming up with those things you're typing, certainly not me. So once any woman earns more than her husband, she's automatically a feminist? You're being distracted with something else today obviously 1 Like |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 2:50pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
bukatyne:The summary is that you people still want to be treated special like a lady and catered to, full stop! The problem is that this isn't possible with equality, so pick one. 2 Likes |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by bukatyne(f): 3:58pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: You are really in no position to say what 'true' feminisms believe or don't believe in. What is the perk of marrying a higher earning husband? The same perk a man has marrying a better cook? |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by bukatyne(f): 4:15pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus:I honestly don't. crackhaus:I saw the reply and I don't relate going head to head with men & being equals. I have a question for Tearoses: Does her husband treat her as inferior? If yes, how? If no, then what is she talking about? crackhaus:Why getting angry when you can change it by choosing the right person to be with? crackhaus: What other special treatment does women get about from 'access' to their husband's money? How many of the anti-feminists here would really want to live the life of our grand-mothers? Infact terms like mutual respect, man treating you right etc. are 'modern' terms from people realizing that wives of yore had the short end of the stick crackhaus: Simples. That's all asked for. Keep your special treatment to yourself. crackhaus: If you say so... One would think they had free access to the earnings. crackhaus:I don't know what you mean by 'people like me' and I can't remember confiding in you about having problems. If you need to see your wife as inferior to you to treat her well, goodluck and that's why courtship is very key. The woman in the story did not start the ish; the guy did. I blame her for accepting anyways. Besides, what is usually referred to as 'feminism' today is telling men to pick up some chores if their wife works. Again, these are discussions/beliefs pre-wedding. crackhaus:lols! I didn't marry a man who has to see me as his 'inferior' to be a good husband . Super lucky me! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by bukatyne(f): 4:20pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: Let me ask: Apart from money aka catering to and special treatment, what other thing do you have to offer a woman? All I read is special treatment; catering to; all women wants to spend their men's money etc. etc. FYI: This babe is equal with her man and treated specially.... Ditto him. 1 Like |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by bukatyne(f): 4:37pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Like I always say, you can't be broke and be a feminist. Pick a struggle The woman is quite frankly confused for lack of a better word I always tell women. Leave this feminism megedefegede in your place of work. Don't carry it to your husband's house. Most of your so-called champions for this struggle are loving and submissive wives at home. @bukatyne I always chuckle when you women bring up the housechore/housekeeping line. Is it housechores 1) That can be paid for 2) That some men can actually do and participate in when they have the time 3) That a lot of women nowadays are actually pretty bad at Lol that last part in particular because there are so many women out there that are very lazy in that aspect. Even aje pako ones that one would ordinarily expect to be decent at it from my experience are just as bad as babes from rich homes. @A40 I don't understand your question |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 5:00pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: I don't consider it counter-productive to be considered more special than a man. It's true! |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 5:01pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: The world has changed. Deal with it. |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 5:04pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: You will much rather be fought by an illiterate who lacks the mastery of proper communication and problem solving skills than a Melinda Gates. Strong women with strong head who constantly fight their men covertly or overtly for equal headship in the home, hardly have it easy - I haven't met one that has had a successful, long, and beautiful marriage...well, unless the man is a total walkover AKA mangina. They only have to do it if the marry a man who picked his understanding of the world from the Bible. The same book that tells people that a snake is responsible for generations of suffering. Oh well, pick your battles wisely. No pity! Do you think your hero Beyoncé would still be married if she didn't shut up anytime Jay tells her to shut up? Do you think Jay Z is concerned with feminism? |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 5:11pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: We wouldn't read this story if she earned more than Franco so the story is about money. It's just that you feel uncomfortable when money is used to question headship but not if it is used to question equal rights. |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 5:30pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Tiwa earned more than her husband, we read the story—in fact, she couldn't stop bringing that in at every opportunity. This story was never about money, it's about a woman who really doesn't understand where to drop feminism. I dont feel uncomfortable about any argument involving money and headship, you are the one who brought it up on this thread by stating that finances should be the determinant of headship. This means you are really the one having unresolved issues with headship... I'm very much secure in my place as a man and it's never been a cause for argument in my personal life, don't know about you? |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 5:40pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Perhaps from your perspective, totally not my reality. The problem with ladies like you is mistaking confidence for being assertive/stubborn. Sometimes the most confident person in the room is usually the one that talks the least. No, strong women who believe being strong means dragging ground with their husband (Christian or not) do it because they don't know better. Simple! Do you think Jay Z is concerned with feminism?This is the answer to my question? Abi you wan start with your tactics of dodging questions by asking another... Well since you couldn't answer that one, I'll do you one better: Why the hell would a feminist like Beyoncé marry a black rapper whose only word for women in his lyrics are biitches, hoes, etc... 1 Like |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 5:45pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:This is exactly why you are a pseudo-feminist, baby. End of Story. |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 5:48pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
bukatyne:You are the only one here that doesn't want to gree, Mindfulness has boldly stated hers...it's your turn. Do feminists still want special treatment, yes or no? All these ones you're doing is just diversion. 2 Likes |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 5:57pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: I agree with the last sentence. I dont feel uncomfortable about any argument involving money and headship, you are the one who brought it up on this thread by stating that finances should be the determinant of headship. If it is the determinant of feminism, then it has to be the determinant of headship too. Fairness is what I stand for. This means you are really the one having unresolved issues with headship... I'm very much secure in my place as a man and it's never been a cause for argument in my personal life, don't know about you? I have my own head. It's simple. |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 5:59pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: So it can't be you. No, strong women who believe being strong means dragging ground with their husband (Christian or not) do it because they don't know better. Simple! Has anyone said anything else? This is the answer to my question? You like it and this is why you come for more. Well since you couldn't answer that one, I'll do you one better: Why would a rapper whose only words are biiitches and hoes marry a feminist? 1 Like |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 6:01pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
crackhaus: Fixed! |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 6:12pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
bukatyne:You don't know what I talk about, a feminist wrote her experience and regretted some choices and you still saw her as foolish, madam Tèaroses who is older and has been married longer said her own and you still don't know what she is talking about. Abeg, God go appear for your room before you finally figure all this out? Why getting angry when you can change it by choosing the right person to be with?Getting angry about what again? All I've been doing is laughing at that woman in the story ever since Tim brought that article here. What other special treatment does women get about from 'access' to their husband's money? How many of the anti-feminists here would really want to live the life of our grand-mothers? Infact terms like mutual respect, man treating you right etc. are 'modern' terms from people realizing that wives of yore had the short end of the stickThat's why I said some na, the some included the finance aspect. Where's your head at? Simples. That's all asked for. Keep your special treatment to yourself.Lmao... Was I offering you special treatment before? See me see Bukatyne. The woman in the article is the one looking for special treatment from Franco...lol If you say so... One would think they had free access to the earnings.Does being pampered mean having free access to all earnings? I don't know what you mean by 'people like me' and I can't remember confiding in you about having problems. If you need to see your wife as inferior to you to treat her well, goodluck and that's why courtship is very key. The woman in the story did not start the ish; the guy did. I blame her for accepting anyways.Besides, what is usually referred to as 'feminism' today is telling men to pick up some chores if their wife works.People like you = Pseudo-feminists. Not YOU personally. Can everyone else see that sentence I put in bold? Feminism is only about men doing chores, and was never about sharing finances 50/50. Timbuktou abeg come see wetin Buka talk. lols! I didn't marry a man who has to see me as his 'inferior' to be a good husband . Super lucky me!The definition of a good husband to a woman usually depends on how often he makes her happy, anything less and he becomes a bad husband. No be me talk am oo, na one wise old man tell me. 1 Like |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 6:23pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
bukatyne:Just for the records, are you not the one I once quizzed on this same section about the history of feminism (1st wave, 2nd wave, etc) and you hadn't heard anything about it at that point? My memory works fine, and I have a feeling yours does too if you're being honest...because between you and I, it was clear that I knew much more about feminism than you (a feminist) did. However Bukatyne, I'm giving you a chance to humor me and make me look stvpid by answering this: Does feminism believe in the headship of a man in the home? 2 Likes |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by Nobody: 6:30pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Bukatyne dear, the only mistake you can make in a discussion with His Majesty Crackhaus is to take him too seriously. He is trolling around at least half of the time unlike others who are seriously venting their frustrations coming from their miserable experience with women. NL is suppossed to be therapeutic to them. [size=18pt]Crackhaus is a feminist to the core.[/size] He loves strong, independent ladies who were raised by feminist pioneers. His provocations serve his understanding and sense of fun. Be playful and don't allow him to provoke you. I am saying it because I know him very well and can see how he is trying to get under your skin. A gentle e-slap here and there may be helpful too. |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 6:34pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Huh, you agree? A few minutes ago, you were saying the story is about money—now tell me thank you for putting you back on track. If it is the determinant of feminism, then it has to be the determinant of headship too.Money is the determinant of feminism? You are just here & there today mehn, what's distracting you? Tell daddy. I have my own head. It's simple.Your own head tells you to be contesting headship with your man? Alright then. |
Re: 10 Things Foreign Husbands Wished Their Wives Knew by crackhaus: 6:37pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
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