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The Origin Of Urhobo People / Niger Deltan Stereotypes Nigerians Are Tired Of Hearing / Attention Please!!! From Now, Every Niger-deltan Should Love The Igbos. .o (2) (3) (4)
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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:06pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
fratermathy: Lol... All major tribes are guilty of this. For me, Igbos annexing ND is not a bad idea. I may be wrong. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by airsaylongcon: 4:10pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Efewestern: Our parents really are the problem. They were scared that learning Urhobo side by side with English will probably damage our English. But what I find really amazing is that my mum who was a real "Ogburhobo" growing up spoke English without the Urhobo problem associated with shursh (church) or jenerator (Generator). My dad has a slight problem with "sh" though but that's only if you critically listen to him. They speak excellent English and very dangerous Urhobo even switching into deep dialect for further effect. But aside from my ability to tell Udu and Ughievwen Urhobo apart, my ability to speak is atrocious even though I understand appreciably well 1 Like |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by TheUmbra: 4:11pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
LorDBolton: The manner of reaction to a provakable submission is a good pointer to the mental and psychological make up of the reactor. You left yourself wide open when you quoted Mr Igboid and I beheld your entrails -- undigested fibres of hate and bitterness have made you a constipated soul choking in bigotry. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Princealex1(m): 4:12pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Pidggin: Actually they do have affiliation,you can look up the history/details from wikipedia if you dont mind 1 Like |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by MizTyna(f): 4:13pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
This sadly is nothing but the truth. I'm Urhobo,born and raised in Lagos. I'm lucky to be able to speak Urhobo,Yoruba and English Languages fluently. But most people I've met are not like that and surprisingly seemed proud about it like I'm local to speak. Very annoying to say the least. Nothing cool about being unable to speak your Language 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Igboid: 4:14pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
LorDBolton: You are silly? Which Oyo do you speak of? The one that begged to be colonised by the British or the Bini that was dismantled by the British in less than two weeks. You are very silly. Fair skin amongst both western and Eastern Igbos were things the first white man that set foot on Igboland noticed. It's a natural attribute that we don't give much to, but I see is consuming you. I state it as it is. Whether you like it or not. With Cross Rivers no longer an oil producing state, the only thing that Unites the entire SS region, is shared culture with their Igbo neighbours. That does not in anyway mean that we want groups like Urhobo,Bini, Itsekiri Isoko with all their bitterness in a future Igbo country. 6 Likes |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by oruma19: 4:15pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by airsaylongcon: 4:16pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Onegai: There used to be a book called "Y'ono Urhobo" published by Macmillan back in the day. Used to be the Gold standard for learning Urhobo as it taught the generic (Agbarho) Urhobo. Very difficult to find these days. However with children more attuned to TV and smartphones these days, I think something more aligned to these platforms will be more beneficial. For Urhobo and Isoko although Isoko like to distance themselves from Urhobo 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Igboid: 4:17pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
soliddust2020: Orogun( Urhobo) and Igbide( Isoko) are examples of Urhobo and Igbide towns with Igbo ancestry. Nobody is interested in having Urhobo in Biafra, I refuse to see what you lots will bring to the table that Ndiigbo don't already have. I'm only stating history as they are. Nothing more and nothing less. 6 Likes |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by bigfrancis21: 4:18pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
The lack of Niger Delta languages' growth is due to the presence of so many languages in the area, thus Pidgin becomes the unifying lingua franca in the area. Also, parents are making a conscious effort to halt the transmission of the language to the younger generation. When parents make the conscious effort not to transmit a language to the next generation, the knowledge of that language dies with them. I knew it had gotten deeply into Urhobo land when few years ago someone started a thread on 'Urhobo proverbs' and all of it were written in Pidgin English instead of Urhobo. Pidgin English has infiltrated into Igbo-speaking areas in the Niger Delta such as Asaba, Port-Harcourt etc. However, the natives in these areas are still familiar with their native languages as they often speak it among themselves but switch to pidgin or English to communicate with a non-Igbo speaker. Similar situation has been observed in Edo state as well. With the presence of many languages (I regard them as dialects of each other even though they may be mutually unintelligible) in Edo state, pidgin English has become the lingua franca in the state, much to the detriment of the native languages. Several young binis are not fluent in the language. Many bini households communicate in pidgin English instead of Bini, a writer estimates it to about 40% of all Bini households that speak Pidgin at home. The Ishans, Etsakos etc. who are blood relations with the Bini, when called bini, deny being Bini fervently despite dialectical similarities. Bini and Esan are quite similar to the other and the lack of efforts by the people to come up with a central Bini dialect sort of, just like central Igbo that is not spoken natively by any Igbo clan but is understandable by all, is a major cause of the decline of Edoid languages in Edo state. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by airsaylongcon: 4:19pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Onegai: You are talking those of use that grew in Delta. Some of us grew up in the heart of Ughelli and if not that we have sense small we for nor hear 'nyarhe" or "biko mo tanye' |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Igboid: 4:20pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Elijahrona2: I'm an Igbo, and I have nothing to do with Isoko too. Lol, are you feeling important or what? Newsflash! You are not. However, there are some Igbo speaking people with ancestral relationship with some Isoko towns. Yours might not be one of those parts of Isoko. Igbide for example is strongly linked with Mgbidi/ Awka. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:21pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Igboid:Niger Delta Is Not Igbo! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by airsaylongcon: 4:24pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
LagosismyHome: My late mum was from Aragba. Never went there until she died. And I had to go as her eldest son. She grew up there and as a mother never let any of us her kids there. The villagers there are still pursuing me upandan to come and do somethings I have absolutely no plans of doing. Surprisingly my mum let me to her own mother's village Idjere (or Jesse as they want to call it in English). I feel more at home there than even in my dad's village. I am not one that believes that village people are witches and wizards o, but Aragba people showed me that there is that possibility. Still like them as they switch from Urhobo to Ukwani flawlessly 1 Like |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by TheUmbra: 4:25pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
MrAldrick: And I wonder where you stand in the assembly of great Niger Deltans to postulate for the whole Niger delta, you lost son with no identity. 7 Likes |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by musicwriter(m): 4:26pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Please take note......... Be informed, education was already going on in Africa before our unfortunate contact with white people. Our traditional ways of learning was erased and replaced with western indoctrination which we still have till today.. White people didn't teach us English to get us educated. Their education was an indoctrination which was an after thought. We had always communicated them in Pidgin and everyone was ok with that. But, as revolt began and call for abolition of slavery was on the rise in the 1800's, they figured out they needed to install puppet governments across Africa that they would continue to control in absencia when they leave. Therefore, they literally started forcing sons of African kings to go to school to be taught in English in a particular way, where they'll be brainwashed to always obey the master, even when the master is absent. All these brainwashed sons of African kings were schooled in England and France, and they later became the first African elites who encouraged missionary schools and indeed helped usher in western education to our detriment. Unfortunately, these first set of brainwashed Africans who erroneously thought they were educated, worked together with missionaries to install English and French in African schools, thereby ended up doing the worst damage to our languages and culture. If they were indeed educated, they would have made sure knowledge acquisition happen in our various native languages across Africa. African elites still send their sons and daughters to school in London and Paris till today, 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by DLioness(f): 4:27pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
LorDBolton:see your mouth 1 Like |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Igboid: 4:27pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
martineinstein: God forbid that all SS people be Igbos, it takes a lot to be Igbo and most of them don't have what it takes to be one. We know the Igbos of SS, and Esan is not one of them. However, there is no link between an Esan man with an Efik Man, other than the fact that both have Igbo speaking neighbors, Igbanke/ Ika for the Esan man, and Abia state Igbo tribes for the Efik man. As for your last sentence, I will leave you to your delusions. 8 Likes |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Igboid: 4:30pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
CeoMYN: Niger Delta is not a name of an ethnic group. It's not even an African language. So obviously it can't be Igbo or any other African ethnic group for that matter. Geez, where are these people crawling out from? 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Efewestern: 4:30pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
LKO: Ekpan case is quite different, We av more strangers than indigene in Ekpan. The only part that speaks Uvwie re those from afieki/ Udumowori axis. but we have more than 5thousand uvwie speaker.. My fear is what will happen to our language in the near future |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:31pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
If you don't want your language to go extinct 1.Name your children in your native dialect 2. Make it the language of communication at home 3. Make sure songs, books and other new materials are made in the language Rita mae brown once said that "Language is a road map it tells where a people are coming from and where they are heading to" Omiebam iye minaapu 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:31pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
CeoMYN:is Niger Delta a tribe-----NO is Niger Delta a state-----No is Niger Delta a geopolitical zone---No be proud of your tribe or if u have lost touch with your tribe just like op u can mention your state... last time i checked Ondo a yoruba state is in Niger delta Imo and Abia; both igbo states are in Niger Delta too it sucks for one to lose his/her identity 4 Likes |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Igboid: 4:34pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
MrAldrick: Go home and slap yourself. Mr Ikwerreboy. Why exactly did you decide to school in Anambra state, if you so much hate Igbos like this? Huh! Your hate will consume you. But Ndiigbo will match on. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:36pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Igboid:I call South South Niger Delta. Abeg Igbos we are not you people, be contented with your land. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:38pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Igboid:u de mind those guys..some times they seems to be intelligent by half and have amnesia to recall that Ondo a yoruba state and Abia + imo are part of Niger delta 3 Likes |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by nowpresence(f): 4:38pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ogorwyne: I am a daughter of orogun kingdom. Both parents are Orogun. I have being to orogun several times and the language spoken is urhobo, close to ughelli dialect. That your friend's village must be close to Ukwani hence the language. |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:40pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Enuguboy4nsk:see I term south south Niger Delta. I am from Rivers state, and the six ss states are not igbos. Period! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:41pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
CeoMYN:mention your tribe first or have u lost your identity?? smh 5 Likes |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Efewestern: 4:41pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
bigfrancis21: Watch Urhobo movie ?.. lolx.. hardly come across that.. I envy those from east / west u guys are trying.. Most of my itsekiri frnds re still experiencing same issue with us.. But i find d itsekiri more easy than mine. will try what you suggested .. thanks bro |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Igboid: 4:41pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
CeoMYN: Who are the "We"? Does this your we contain Egbema, Oyigbo. Oshimili/ Aniocha? You are a disgrace. A clown at best. Better be proud of your ethnic group and learn to speak for them. Yes! We have Igbos in SS and you cannot speak for them. You can only speak for your insignificant ethnic group that you are so much ashamed of that you would hide behind hazy terms like "Niger Delta" "SS" etc to project your baseless and jaundiced opinions. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by BarryX(m): 4:45pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
247Dior:Please tell us the facts in his statements. While at it, make sure the definition of the word "fact" Is in lieu with the universal accepted standard |
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:46pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
CeoMYN:ignorance is truly a disease....and do u think that cross-river a south south state is part of Niger-delta?? [b] Delta State is ethnically diverse with peoples and seven major languages and dialects are spoken in the state. The state is divided into two regions on account of state creation movements (between 1976 and 1996) which was a feature of the military governance of Nigeria. This culminated to the increment of states in Nigeria from 12 states to the present 36 states. The first group are Anioma (Igboid group) which consists of Aniocha/Oshimili, Ndokwa/Ukwuani ethnic nationality, and Ika. These areas occupy the Delta North senatorial district of the state. The second group comprises Urhobo/Isoko (Edoid group), Itsekiri (Yoruboid group), and Ezon ethnic groups. These ethnic groups occupy the Central and South Senatorial districts of the state. The Urhobo and Isoko speak very similar dialects unlike the Ezon and Itsekiri people but have a loosely related culture as they traded and intermarried for centuries before colonization. The Itsekiri are linguistically and culturally related to the Yoruba and Edo ethnic groups of Western Nigeria, while the Ezon are a branch of their kith and kin in neighbouring Bayelsa state. Most inhabitants of the state practice Christianity and very few traditional faiths—although the Ukwuanis also have many cultural affiliation with these groups most especially in their cosmic outlook. [/b] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_State read and cure yourself of ignorance.... 1 Like |
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