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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:48pm On Sep 20, 2016
Igboid:


Who are the "We"?

Does this your we contain Egbema, Oyigbo. Oshimili/ Aniocha?

You are a disgrace. A clown at best.

Better be proud of your ethnic group and learn to speak for them.

Yes! We have Igbos in SS and you cannot speak for them. You can only speak for your insignificant ethnic group that you are so much ashamed of that you would hide behind hazy terms like "Niger Delta" "SS" etc to project your baseless and jaundiced opinions.
leave that clown....he's inferiority complex ravished..he has no identity

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Efewestern: 4:49pm On Sep 20, 2016
Igboid:


I'm an Igbo, and I have nothing to do with Isoko too. grin
Lol, are you feeling important or what? Newsflash! You are not.

However, there are some Igbo speaking people with ancestral relationship with some Isoko towns. Yours might not be one of those parts of Isoko.

Igbide for example is strongly linked with Mgbidi/ Awka. cool

CeoMYN:

I call South South Niger Delta.
Abeg Igbos we are not you people, be contented with your land.

Enuguboy4nsk:

is Niger Delta a tribe-----NO
is Niger Delta a state-----No
is Niger Delta a geopolitical zone---No

be proud of your tribe or if u have lost touch with your tribe just like op u can mention your state...

last time i checked Ondo a yoruba state is in Niger delta
Imo and Abia; both igbo states are in Niger Delta too

it sucks for one to lose his/her identity

Igboid:


Niger Delta is not a name of an ethnic group. It's not even an African language. So obviously it can't be Igbo or any other African ethnic group for that matter.

Geez, where are these people crawling out from?

Please mod do something about this.. they re derailing this thread.. I don't just get you.. What has Urhobo language gat to do with this?

Please and please

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:49pm On Sep 20, 2016
Igboid:


Who are the "We"?

Does this your we contain Egbema, Oyigbo. Oshimili/ Aniocha?

You are a disgrace. A clown at best.

Better be proud of your ethnic group and learn to speak for them.

Yes! We have Igbos in SS and you cannot speak for them. You can only speak for your insignificant ethnic group that you are so much ashamed of that you would hide behind hazy terms like "Niger Delta" "SS" etc to project your baseless and jaundiced opinions.
you need to be taught manners, calling me a disgrace because I disagreed with you?
We are not Igbos!

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by TheUmbra: 4:50pm On Sep 20, 2016
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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:51pm On Sep 20, 2016
Enuguboy4nsk:

mention your tribe first or have u lost your identity?? smh
Proudly Ogba

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 4:58pm On Sep 20, 2016
well what I think is causing it is the multi tribes and languages we have in the niger Delta states, if you look at Hausa, Yoruba, and igbo, they all understand themselves bleach matter the state even if there's a little difference they still all understand themselves. but it's not so in the niger Delta states. Am an urhobo ma and am proud I can speak my language very well but for me to communicate with an ijaw, isoko, itshekiri, anioma, okpe, ughieven man of Which all of em are from my state, I have to speak a common tongue Which is the pidgin English, that's why those from these area are very good at speaking the language. I have leaved in all the niger delta states and other parts of the country. to communicate I have to speak a common tongue so with time it becomes used to you that Wen u even see ur kinsmen, you unknownly start speaking the common tongue too. an ondo man will understand and ekiti man, so also an abia man understand an anambra man, but it's not same with us so don't blame us too much. the solution is just for the government of the niger Delta states to make local languages compulsory from primary to secondary level. with that we can keep and preserve our languages

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:07pm On Sep 20, 2016
Enuguboy4nsk:

ignorance is truly a disease....and do u think that cross-river a south south state is part of Niger-delta??

[b] Delta State is ethnically diverse with peoples and seven major languages and
dialects are spoken in the state. The state is divided into two regions on
account of state creation movements (between 1976 and 1996) which was a
feature of the military governance of Nigeria. This culminated to the increment
of states in Nigeria from 12 states to the present 36 states.
The first group are Anioma (Igboid group) which consists of Aniocha/Oshimili,
Ndokwa/Ukwuani ethnic nationality, and Ika. These areas occupy the Delta
North senatorial district of the state.
The second group comprises Urhobo/Isoko (Edoid group), Itsekiri (Yoruboid
group), and Ezon ethnic groups. These ethnic groups occupy the Central and
South Senatorial districts of the state. The Urhobo and Isoko speak very
similar dialects unlike the Ezon and Itsekiri people but have a loosely related
culture as they traded and intermarried for centuries before colonization. The
Itsekiri are linguistically and culturally related to the Yoruba and Edo ethnic
groups of Western Nigeria, while the Ezon are a branch of their kith and kin in
neighbouring Bayelsa state. Most inhabitants of the state practice Christianity
and very few traditional faiths—although the Ukwuanis also have many
cultural affiliation with these groups most especially in their cosmic outlook.
[/b]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_State
read and cure yourself of ignorance....
Keep quoting... Be contented with what you have abeg

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:08pm On Sep 20, 2016
Efewestern:








Please mod do something about this.. they re derailing this thread.. I don't just get you.. What has Urhobo language gat to do with this?

Please and please
Na wetin?

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by BarryX(m): 5:09pm On Sep 20, 2016
Igboid:


I'm an Igbo, and I have nothing to do with Isoko too. grin
Lol, are you feeling important or what? Newsflash! You are not.

However, there are some Igbo speaking people with ancestral relationship with some Isoko towns. Yours might not be one of those parts of Isoko.

Igbide for example is strongly linked with Mgbidi/ Awka. cool
I think this idea of Igbide having Igbo ancestry gives you serious heavenly feelings going by how many times you mention it in a Niger-delta alignment discourse.

You have always sang it in your mind that it burst out through your fingers. I'm maternally Igbide and trust me, the history that we have never had it the way your ecstacy realism suggest.

If I were you, I will play down that "Igbide ownership" mentality in public discourse or these people will have no other option than to sever ties if any with the Igbos.

It's appaling already

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Sanchez01: 5:14pm On Sep 20, 2016
fratermathy, God bless your mind! I was speaking with a friend on the phone some days back and she said she finds it embarrassing to speak Urhobo with her peers in public because it is considered 'local'. Being fully aware of my plight (born and bred outside Urhoboland, yet, speak Urhobo flawlessly), she is motivated now and clearly enjoys speaking the language.

The multi tribe in the ND is really fizzling out the Urhobo language and other ND languages. I blame Warri though, the part of Delta that see all parts of the state, come together and speak pidgin till thy kingdom come.

Modified:

Warri, not Asaba.
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by erico2k2(m): 5:15pm On Sep 20, 2016
Igboid:


Orogun( Urhobo) and Igbide( Isoko) are examples of Urhobo and Igbide towns with Igbo ancestry.

Nobody is interested in having Urhobo in Biafra, I refuse to see what you lots will bring to the table that Ndiigbo don't already have.

I'm only stating history as they are. Nothing more and nothing less.
The share borders . They never originated from Igbo however you are more than welcomed to share refrences instead of hear say or assumption

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:16pm On Sep 20, 2016
BarryX:
I think this idea of Igbide having Igbo ancestry gives you serious heavenly feelings going by how many times you mention it in a Niger-delta alignment discourse.

You have always sang it in your mind that the burst out through your fingers. I'm maternally Igbide and trust me, the history that we have never had it the way your ecstacy realism suggest.

If I were you, I will play down that "Igbide ownership" mentality in public discourse or these people will have no other option than to sever ties if any with the Igbos.

It's appaling already
which ties.....who even knows igbide...am just knowing for the first time..up North so far you are a southerner and not yoruba u are automatically igbo..soon we will annex minority tribes in south south

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by tyrone07(m): 5:17pm On Sep 20, 2016
I am Uhrobo and i am seriously ashamed of myself for not being able to utter a single uhrobo word apart from the greeting Migwo. I hope i even spelt that correctly. I grew up in different cities in Nigeria and abroad but that is no excuse and i blame my parents for it. Only yesterday i was going through a website wadoo.org to try and learn a few words. Currently i'm in Asia amd would appreciate if anyone can point me to any meaningful source that will enable me learn at my own pace.
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by erico2k2(m): 5:18pm On Sep 20, 2016
Sanchez01:
fratermathy, God bless your mind! I was speaking with a friend on the phone some days back and she said she finds it embarrassing to speak Urhobo with her peers in public because it is considered 'local'. Being fully aware of my plight (born and bred outside Urhoboland, yet, speak Urhobo flawlessly), she is motivated now and clearly enjoys speaking the language.

The multi tribe in the ND is really fizzling out the Urhobo language and other ND languages. I blame Asaba though, the part of Delta that see all parts of the state, come together and speak pidgin till thy kingdom come.
People in that school of thought I consider silly or not wise . Have you heard the Ijaw Man speak in public ? Its like they are fighting .I speak Urhobo to my peers in public in London .anyone who has a problem with that can go and die grin grin

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:19pm On Sep 20, 2016
Sanchez01:
fratermathy, God bless your mind! I was speaking with a friend on the phone some days back and she said she finds it embarrassing to speak Urhobo with her peers in public because it is considered 'local'. Being fully aware of my plight (born and bred outside Urhoboland, yet, speak Urhobo flawlessly), she is motivated now and clearly enjoys speaking the language.

The multi tribe in the ND is really fizzling out the Urhobo language and other ND languages. I blame Asaba though, the part of Delta that see all parts of the state, come together and speak pidgin till thy kingdom come.
how is asaba responsible for your woes

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by erico2k2(m): 5:20pm On Sep 20, 2016
tyrone07:
I am Uhrobo and i am seriously ashamed of myself for not being able to utter a single uhrobo word apart from the greeting Migwo. I hope i even spelt that correctly. I grew up in different cities in Nigeria and abroad but that is no excuse and i blame my parents for it. Only yesterday i was going through a website wadoo.org to try and learn a few words. Currently i'm in Asia amd would appreciate if anyone can point me to any meaningful source that will enable me learn at my own pace.
its never 2 late to learn.if you can learn the language of the country you now reside howmuch more your mother tongue . All you need is to ring some of your friends whom you think are fluent in the language give yourself few months you would be suprised of howmuch you can express yourself in Urhobo .That's what I did .
Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by telemapreye1(f): 5:20pm On Sep 20, 2016
Igboid:
I often encounter individuals of the two Nigerian largest tribes who believe all Niger Deltans are Igbos. They don't even recognise that most of these tribes have NOTHING to do with Igbo!

The only Niger Delta group that has nothing to do with Ndiigbo is Itsekiri.

It's okay to say that all Niger Deltans are not Igbos, that I agree 100% with. But you start stretching it when you say that MOST of Niger Delta tribes has nothing to do with Ndiigbo.

Infact, the only thing that Unites all Niger Delta tribes culturally, excluding Itsekiri is Shared history with Igbo speaking neighbors.

Urhobo/ Isoko has some towns with Igbo ancestry and still share boundary and cultures with the Igbo speaking Ukwuani even unto today.

Some Esan towns were founded by Igbo speaking people, like wise some Esan people who were absorbed into Igbo speaking Anioma today. As we speak, Ekpon, an Esan town in Edo is losing her Edoid language in favour of an Igboid( Ika) one. And we all know of the Existence of Igbo( Ika) speaking Igbanke people right in Edo state, and the Edo origin stories of many Igbo towns today in Anioma, Anambra, Rivers, and even some Enugu towns.

Ogoni people share a long history with Ndoki Igbo, just as a significant section of Okrika people are said to have originated in Ndoki. Ndoki also has ancestral connection with the Ibani people in Bonny and Opobo as well as with Ibibios.

Ngwa Igbo and Ikwuano Igbos share alot with the Annang people, their interactions was pre colonial as neighbors with Inter marriage and trading as well as diffusion of cultures both ways, like the Ekpo society.

The Aro Igbo people were traversing the entire Ibibio- Efik-Ekoi area,breaking cultural barriers by development of unified cultural ideologies like the Ekpe cult system and the Nsibidi writing system, centuries before the white man created Nigeria and the Urhobo man became aware that there was ever a people called Ibibio- Efik-Ekoi people.
And these people remain neighbors to Aros and to Ehugbo Igbos and Ikwo Igbos even till today.

I can go on and on.

But I'm sure you already get the point.
which yeye igbos?
We are not and can never be related to igbos

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by erico2k2(m): 5:23pm On Sep 20, 2016
Enuguboy4nsk:

is Niger Delta a tribe-----NO
is Niger Delta a state-----No
is Niger Delta a geopolitical zone---No

be proud of your tribe or if u have lost touch with your tribe just like op u can mention your state...

last time i checked Ondo a yoruba state is in Niger delta
Imo and Abia; both igbo states are in Niger Delta too

it sucks for one to lose his/her identity
Niger Delta is a geographical zone . That's the only thing there is to it.

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:24pm On Sep 20, 2016
Enuguboy4nsk:

which ties.....who even knows igbide...am just knowing for the first time..up North so far you are a southerner and not yoruba u are automatically igbo..soon we will annex minority tribes in south south
Tamuno shinye minima, that will never happen instead abia and imo will join the proposed NDR.

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by telemapreye1(f): 5:26pm On Sep 20, 2016
247Dior:
I hate dumb peeps.. he commented with historical facts and evident, y not prove him wrong with your own facts and not allow your hatred for igbos to control u.. at the end saying trash
Shut up biafra man
Don't drag us into your mess

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by fratermathy(m): 5:26pm On Sep 20, 2016
Enuguboy4nsk:

which ties.....who even knows igbide...am just knowing for the first time..up North so far you are a southerner and not yoruba u are automatically igbo..soon we will annex minority tribes in south south

That last statement you made is the reason why no Niger Delta ethnic group will ever trust Igbos, or follow them for anything. It's as simple as that.

Igbos are not trustworthy. Sorry to the good ones that I'm generalizing. My fiancee is Igbo yet she doesn't behave as these online miscreants do.




The Urhobo language is dying and Urhobos are the sole cause. We need to declare a state of emergency in this regards. I don't even know what UPU is doing with regards to this. Whether Urhobo survives as a mere intellectual curiosity in the future depends on what we do now.


As for the igbos derailing this thread with their annexation syndrome. I say "Dallu so". You can feel big when minorities are concerned but when Hausas trash you, you guys will be the ones to cry "Biafra"! grin. May Biafra ever remain a shadowy vision.

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by fratermathy(m): 5:28pm On Sep 20, 2016
Enuguboy4nsk:

how is asaba responsible for your woes

Was he directing his writing to you? Are you from Delta State? Are you an Asaba person?


Put yourself where you belong. Don't come fooling your self in a "minority" thread. The same "minority" you want to forcibly annex.

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Pillyportions(f): 5:29pm On Sep 20, 2016
Lol. Na so e pain you?
LorDBolton:


Smh. See delusion? Igbos that do not even know their history telling us OUR own history? If not cos it's 2016 you will even claim igbos 'own' lagos that many of your ancestors settled here. Mtcheeew

The fact u cannot distinguish between a settlement and owners of a land shows you even a kid who wasn't well groomed.

Even the obi of onithsa cannot open his mouth to say this crap... only GOD can punish the white men who came and released you guys from the captivity oyo, benin and other hausa kingdoms have subjected ya'll to.

Core igbos are black... go and find out the history of the fair skinned ones (they started popping up when the whites came guess u already know y)

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:30pm On Sep 20, 2016
erico2k2:

Niger Delta is a geographical zone . That's the only thing there is to it.
niger delta is not even a geopolitical zone rather south south is a geopolitical zone..niger delta is just an area covered by oil spillage

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:31pm On Sep 20, 2016
CeoMYN:

Niger Delta Is Not Igbo!
Ode. Who said Niger Delta is Igbo

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:32pm On Sep 20, 2016
fratermathy:


Was he directing his writing to you? Are you from Delta State? Are you an Asaba person?


Put yourself where you belong. Don't come fooling your sef in a "minority" thread. The same "minority" you want to forcibly annex.
asaba is igbo and i am igbo so he is indirectly directing it to me....leave igbo areas out of your comatous urhobo language which is too local and sound like animal language that the owners themselves are very much ashamed to speak it

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by fratermathy(m): 5:33pm On Sep 20, 2016
Sanchez01:
fratermathy, God bless your mind! I was speaking with a friend on the phone some days back and she said she finds it embarrassing to speak Urhobo with her peers in public because it is considered 'local'. Being fully aware of my plight (born and bred outside Urhoboland, yet, speak Urhobo flawlessly), she is motivated now and clearly enjoys speaking the language.

The multi tribe in the ND is really fizzling out the Urhobo language and other ND languages. I blame Asaba though, the part of Delta that see all parts of the state, come together and speak pidgin till thy kingdom come.

While Asaba is contributory, it is not so much the problem.

The problem is even from Warri, the oil factor and the confluence of Urhobo, Ijaw and Itsekiri. The Itsekiri, especially, made Urhobos feel inferior in many ways due to their influence in those days. The inferiority complex evolved to a negative disposition towards Urhobo language.

I believe that those of us who really want to learn should engage Urhobo teachers, maids, or elderly ones. I learnt the Urhobo I know now by active efforts. I had to go to my village to converse with kinsmen in Urhobo. I was initially speaking what they call "cut-and-paste" Urhobo but through corrections and errors, I improved.

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by fratermathy(m): 5:34pm On Sep 20, 2016
Enuguboy4nsk:

asaba is igbo and i am igbo so he is indirectly directing it to me....leave igbo areas out of your comatous urhobo language which is too local and sound like animal language that the owners themselves are very much ashamed to speak it

My question still stands... What are you doing in an Urhobo thread? Is Urhobo also Igbo?

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:35pm On Sep 20, 2016
fratermathy:


That last statement you made is the reason why no Niger Delta ethnic group will ever trust Igbos, or follow them for anything. It's as simple as that.

Igbos are not trustworthy. Sorry to the good ones that I'm generalizing. My fiancee is Igbo yet she doesn't behave as these online miscreants do.




The Urhobo language is dying and Urhobos are the sole cause. We need to declare a state of emergency in this regards. I don't even know what UPU is doing with regards to this. Whether Urhobo survives as a mere intellectual curiosity in the future depends on what we do now.


As for the igbos derailing this thread with their annexation syndrome. I say "Dallu so". You can feel big when minorities are concerned but when Hausas trash you, you guys will be the ones to cry "Biafra"! grin. May Biafra ever remain a shadowy vision.
annexing you people truly is the only solution to your woes...atleast you will lose your culture and language to an African gian tribe 'igbo' or will you prefer to continue with your pidgeon English

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by fratermathy(m): 5:36pm On Sep 20, 2016
Enuguboy4nsk:

annexing you people truly is the only solution to your woes...atleast you will lose your culture and language to an African gian tribe 'igbo' or will you prefer to continue with your pidgeon English

The same giant tribe that cannot become common Vice President of Nigeria? Or that cannot withstand Hausa and Yoruba? The same one crying marginalization like rabid dogs or the one deluding themselves with Biafra.?

No please. We'd rather go extinct or merge with Yoruba.

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by Nobody: 5:39pm On Sep 20, 2016
fratermathy:


My question still stands... What are you doing in an Urhobo thread? Is Urhobo also Igbo?
my concern is that he mentioned 'asaba' as responsible for your woes and am just wondering how u can blame another group'asaba which is an igbo sub-group' for your woes?

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Re: The Dearth Of Urhobo And Other Niger Deltan Languages by fratermathy(m): 5:42pm On Sep 20, 2016
Enuguboy4nsk:

my concern is that he mentioned 'asaba' as responsible for your woes and am just wondering how u can blame another group'asaba which is an igbo sub-group' for your woes?

I have denounced that statement and informed him better. Now go, will you!

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