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Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by Nobody: 11:09am On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal: Your number six should be off the list, you could be a database engineer for christ sake... You sound like an old dude who's majorly into software engineering (because that's what software engineers say about the web), remember specializing in a single field all your life means more quality than being a Jack of All trades. #fact. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 1:22pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DanielTheGeek: The problem with people. Heading says; Don't call yourself a programmer if... Is a database architect(I assume you understand the roles) a software programmer/engineer? If the answer is "No" then my friend read again. You may just be getting upset because you fall under the grab Joomla/WordPress and go category. Don't be, just learn. Being old isn't a bad thing, unless you mean being old means dead and obsolete. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 1:30pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
WhyAmISoQuiet: Is the web all you've ever done? That's the question. Yes, you might be getting web jobs and feel comfortable, that is fine for you. But when you get calls from established firms dealing in software, no one is going to ask if you know HTML/PHP. Your logical horizon will b put to the test. And my friend, if you haven't worked on other types of systems, u'll never know that the web sphere is limiting. Really, library and web frameworks, that's supposed to be a test? Been there, done that, still not broad. If you feel offended, don't be, just learn. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by Afam4eva(m): 1:41pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal: A role of a programmer is not as vast as some of you make it seem. Some of you use the trend in Nigeria to measure the role of a programmer. I will also blame some of us that use the term to refer to anybody who does anything to do with building a software whereas apart from programmers, there are software engineers, analysts, testers etc and these people are a lot of times rated higher than programmers. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by AntiWailer: 1:42pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dhtml18: You are very correct. Lol. Still arguing with one that said he is a programmer ON Nairaland recently. |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 1:50pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Afam4eva: The term software programmer is broad. A software analyst must be a software programmer/engineer but software testers can be just about anybody not scared of a keyboard. I also advice ppl interested in doing computer software to aim for the role of a software engineer/architect not just a coder. |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by Afam4eva(m): 1:58pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal:Is there a difference between a programmer and a coder? Do both terms mean the same thing? What do you think? |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 2:14pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Afam4eva: Once upon a time every programmer designed and coded their software idea. Then one day, the business men decided that division of labour was a good thing so they told some to design while others code. The designer became engineers/architects while the coders where given the nice name of programmer. But till this day when a coder finds error with design when implementing in the language of choice they either work around it or take the complaint to whom it may concern. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by Nobody: 2:37pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal: Yes I use WordPress for very little projects, I wasn't upset Ol' man and yes I'm still learning, there's no limit to knowledge. I was only saying that it's wrong for you to say that "people who've built webapps that interact with databases" aren't programmers... A programmer is anybody that builds a program which could be a web-app, mobile app or software so if you can write backend codes and architect a whole website...then you are a programmer, sefini. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 2:50pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DanielTheGeek: Please read #6 again. Hopefully, people get involved in other aspects. All i'm saying. |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by WhyAmISoQuiet: 6:49pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal:Apart from hardware development......mention an aspect of programming that can't be in the form of a web app. A server is still a computer. |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 7:01pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
WhyAmISoQuiet: About any software can be in the "form" of a web app, the question is how much of it is made by web technology? You can ping-pong presentation data, but that's just about it. Calling a webserver to run data on a more efficient software doesn't make the web part indispensable. Now, when you say "aspect of programming"; that's ambiguous. You sure can't write a memory manager on your browser using the gang of 3(html/css/js). |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by WhyAmISoQuiet: 7:16pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal:With a memory manager, you're interacting with hardware so it should be on a server. It's not safe to use a browser for that kind of application but you're wrong again because html, CSS and js can do that with chromium/nodejs 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 7:20pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
WhyAmISoQuiet: Write one, then I'll stand corrected. Memory managers doesnt fall under hardware development. |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by WhyAmISoQuiet: 7:24pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal:I didn't say it falls under hardware development, what I said was "interact". |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 7:33pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
WhyAmISoQuiet: Really, "interact" with hardware. Ok, what does your code interact with? Air? Memory managers manage data placement and alignment on computer memory(RAM) for efficiency, just so we are clear. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by WhyAmISoQuiet: 7:57pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal:Now, the code interacts with layers of API which then interacts with the hardware. When you code that desktop app in C# and give it high priority underneath C# talks to the system API which then manipulates the computer resources 1 Like |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 8:09pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
WhyAmISoQuiet: And API's are what? Screwdriver's or code? Seems you haven't heard of bits or voltages. Your whole software, ur own code or someone's api you use is still code, high or low. Funny man. |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by Nobody: 8:15pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
e be like say fight go soon happen on this thread, because the thread is ticking like a time-bomb. Anyway guys, please nominate on https://www.nairaland.com/3361217/best-nairaland-programmer-contest-2016 |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by WhyAmISoQuiet: 8:21pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal:Funny. Why don't you just code in binary so we know you are a programmer.... 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 8:27pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
WhyAmISoQuiet: Yea right. The angry web guy throws a golf ball. The argument is simple. You are not a programmer if you find #6 offensive. |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by WhyAmISoQuiet: 8:33pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal:I never found your post offensive, it was passing a wrong information 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 8:38pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
WhyAmISoQuiet: Your perspective. |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by KvnqPrezo(m): 8:41pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
If Una like make Una kill yourselves,,mtcheeew |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by WhyAmISoQuiet: 8:47pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
dueal:The term computer programmer can refer to a specialist in one area of computer programming or to a generalist who writes code for many kinds of software. ... The term programmer can be used to refer to a software developer , Web developer , mobile applications developer, embedded firmware developer, software engineer , computer scientist, or software analyst https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by dueal(m): 9:10pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
WhyAmISoQuiet: Bedtime story; Once upon a time every programmer designed and coded their software idea. Then one day, the business men decided that division of labour was a good thing so they told some to design while others code. The designer became engineers/architects while the coders where given the nice name of programmer. But till this day when a coder finds error with design when implementing in the language of choice they either work around it or take the complaint to whom it may concern. The End. |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by appcypher: 12:30am On Sep 21, 2016 |
*sighs* |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by FincoApps(m): 12:46am On Sep 21, 2016 |
dueal: Seriously, some of these are very incorrect!!.... But then again, the last line makes everything irrelevant 1 Like |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by FincoApps(m): 12:47am On Sep 21, 2016 |
WhyAmISoQuiet: EXACTLY!!!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by satmaniac(m): 12:12am On Sep 22, 2016 |
larisoft: BELOW IS THE SOURCE OF MY WAILING: There is these codes that refuses to do what I think I commanded it to do. I have been on this codes for about three weeks now, doing all manner of things, including the illogical and crazy things, I even went spiritual(joking). The codes were written to insert some values gotten from the form fields into a table in the database. For some reasons unknown to me the codes didn't work as envisaged. The worst thing is no error is printed on the browser's page. In order to debug the code, I put the where I run the SQL insert into an if-else statement(if(mysqli_query($product_insert))), but, the codes in the else block run only. Below is the php codes: <?php if(isset($_POST['insert_post'])){ $product_title = $_POST['product_title']; $product_types = $_POST['product_types']; $product_brand = $_POST['product_brand']; $product_size = $_POST['product_size']; $product_price = $_POST['product_price']; $product_desc = $_POST['product_desc']; $product_keywords = $_POST['product_keywords']; $product_image = $_FILES['product_image']['name']; $product_image_tmp = $_FILES['product_image']['tmp_name']; move_uploaded_file($product_image_tmp,'product_images/$product_image'); $insert_product = "INSERT INTO product(product_title,product_types,product_brand,product_size,product_price,product_desc,product_keywords,product_image) VALUES ('$product_title', '$product_types', '$product_brand', '$product_size', '$product_price', '$product_desc', '$product_keywords', '$product_image',)"; $insert_pro_query = mysqli_query($con, $insert_product); if($insert_product){ echo "<script>alert('Product has been inserted')</script>"; echo "<script>window.open('insert_product.php', 'self')</script>"; }else{ echo 'not inserted'; } } ?> Help please larisoft, Dhtml18, Danielthegeek, SEUNTHOMAS, etc |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by teampregar(m): 9:55am On Sep 22, 2016 |
$insert_product = "INSERT INTO product(product_title,product_types,product_brand,product_size,product_price,product_desc,product_keywords,product_image) VALUES ('$product_title', '$product_types', '$product_brand', '$product_size', '$product_price', '$product_desc', '$product_keywords', '$product_image',)"; $insert_pro_query = mysqli_query($con, $insert_product); if($insert_product){} The problem is that u are using a string ($insert_product) as an expression .. U are supposed to be using the variable($insert_pro_query) which u assigned to the mysqli_query function as the expression.. it is supposed to be: if ($insert_pro_query) { /Codes here } When u do this then the codes in the if block will execute if the data was inserted into the database... |
Re: Let's Be Honest, The Number Of Programmers We Have In Nigeria Is Exagherrated by Nobody: 11:20am On Sep 22, 2016 |
satmaniac: Any variable enclosed in single quotes will be parsed as a string, don't have time to help you debug but fix this line: (there could be other errors) move_uploaded_file($product_image_tmp,'product_images/$ product_image'); TO move_uploaded_file($product_image_tmp,"product_images/$ product_image" ![]() |
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