9inches:


And when that child is born but dies before being baptised, he/she goes to _________?

brocab:
I believe the child go's back to God...Unless you can prove otherwise?

9inches:


With his/her original sin?

9inches:


And when that child is born but dies before being baptised, he/she goes to _________?

9inches:

{Ephesians 4:5} One Lord One faith and One baptism...
When Jesus founded the Church, it wasn’t a bunch of separate churches with their own individual doctrines, but a body with different parts throughout the world. We can see this from how Sts. Peter and Paul jumped from church to church around the Mediterranean Sea, founding churches that supported each other and had the same doctrine and rules.

It only makes sense that if Jesus founded one Church, it would be for the whole world. The word “catholic” comes from the Greek word “katholicos” which means universal. With that in mind, the Catholic Church is the Universal Church for all of humanity founded by Jesus. Only a single Church founded on Christ can fulfill the Great Commission, baptizing and making disciples of all nations.

One of the most beautiful things about the Catholic Church is its universality. I can attend mass pretty much anywhere around the world, and though I might not know the language, it’ll be the same liturgy with the same Eucharistic Lord and the same beliefs.

The Church must be able to adapt to different cultures without changing the doctrine or liturgy, which has been shown by the Catholic Church time and time again, on all 6 continents.

Ubenedictus:
who told u the intercession of the saints isnt thru Jesus

brocab:
Uben you are not even Christian...

9inches:


I can conclude you are not a Christian. You neither know what Christianity means, nor its history. Take my advice - give yourself a couple more years to mature before you delve into this kind of argument. Because you seem like a lost and confused sheep who keeps wandering about searching for his owner.

Just go learn your bible from the masters/scholars. Then we can talk about the Catholic Church. You are not yet wired to grasp some religious theologies for now.

brocab:
Prove your theory, I know more about the Catholic Church then you do...You only know about the outer history, the so called love to whom? Your write ups shows your desires for the Lord are nil. By their fruit we will know them-and your fruit doesn't exist....
Studying up about your Church, and through my own experiences, with the Catholic Church, who call themselves men and women of God really shows a strange way of showing it, matter of fact they don't preach the word of God as it stands, they preach it with fear.
They murdered men and women, who had chosen to accept the Lord, men and women who died in the name of Jesus.
Children were taken away from their parents, under witchcraft some sacrificed, others murdered, many sexually raped, and abused or in the name of the Catholic Church.

If you looked more into your history, you would know why the Catholic Church turned against the Christ, and of cause the Lord's disciples Peter and Paul were murdered by Emperor Nero, and what did the Church do about it, Nothing.
This is the Man that you say started the Catholic Church-a man that walk side by side with Jesus-a man who was filled with the Holy Spirit , A man who knew the truth about Christ.
And Emperor Nero murdered Him, because it was the disciples that preached the truth about Christ and not pagan idol worship.
And your pagan worship is used still until this day.
Jesus didn't like the Pharisees back then, and He still don't like them now.
The Catholic Church is great on the outside but inside they are full of dead mans bones, and we have the evidence inside the Vatican, that not even they will enter into the kingdom of Heaven, nor allow anybody else, to go into it either.
This is the truth you keep refusing to mention, trying to draw people into your kingdom of purgatory Hell. Repent in the name of Jesus turn away from the gates of Hell, come and join us and be set free in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord our savour.
So don't write this hog wash you know more about the inter history about your Church, people just need to read up about your history, and if they a clever enough they will search the truth about your Church today. Catholic Priest who claim they are men of God are still under investigation of Child Molesting, more then once....
People aren't looking for the lies-they want truth-don't forget we are spreading the gospel across the nations, and that gospel is even to you.
The Catholic Church always seem to cover up on these terrible mistakes they keep on repeating, the problem is they turn to each other asking for their forgiveness, instead of turning to God Almighty Himself...
The word of God say's He is the only one who can forgive the sins of men... Not priest...
And besides you rely on your master scholars "men 'not Christ" to lead your way-try asking the Lord yourselves He is the only Lord who will lead you to all truth. Jesus Christ is Lord...

9inches:


You are a kid, else you should have known by nowJesus Christ Himself founded and commissioned the Catholic Church. He also gave his apostles (not everyone) the power to forgive or uphold sins. He also handed Peter the keys of heaven and promised the church that He will be with them untill the end of time.

brocab:
Uben you are not even Christian...

Ubenedictus:
HEHEHE MAY GOD HELP U.

Mcowubaba:
Exempt for the hail mary prayer.....
'Holy Mary Pray for Us sinners now nd @ the hour of our Death'
Even the memorare-
'Remember O Most Blessed Virgin Mary, that is a thing unheard of, that anyone who impored your help was left forsaken, here i come, before thee I stand, a sinful nd sorrowful sinner, despite not my poor words O mother of the world incarnate'
All this things na Prayer na...
Jesus Christ Clearly said ' I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO ONE COMMET TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME' =This is the summary of this discussion QED!!

Nd ps..u don't need any mediator/ intersesor to connect to JESUS CHRIST.... But u need JESUS CHRIST to connect to the FATHER...
Tanks

brocab:
Heaven...

brocab:
The bible teaches that only those who have asked Jesus to forgive their sins will go to heaven, and those who have not will go to Hell. Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life, No-one comes to the Father accept through Me..
He made it clear there is one way to get into heaven and combined with many other scriptures that says the same thing in different ways, this is accepted by most bible scholars. As he accurate answer to "what must I do to go to heaven" So what happens to those who don't want anything to do with Jesus and not asked him to forgive their sins? [color=#000099]{In your case you ask a priest to forgive your sin}
According to the bible they go to Hell, what is most important to understand through, is that no-one will send you to Heaven or Hell. Where ever you end up will be the place where "you choose" to go" the reason for this is because you have a free will, the right you choose and no-one will force you to believe what you didn't want to. Not even God..
But only God knows when the day of judgement happens, Then I saw a great white throne, and Him who was seated on it- and I saw the dead great and small, standing before the throne,, and the books were opened, Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books, and each person was judge to what they had done. And everyone who was not found in the book of life, was thrown into the lake of fire.
So this purgatory lie, isn't the word of God, you can't buy your way out of Hell, God will judge as His word say's He will. And don't forget their are many Christians in Hell today, prosperity preaches, men and women who loved themselves and their idol's more then God. etc...Everyone will be judged on judgement day, and those who aren't written in the the books will end up in the lake of fire..
I suppose you know the bible like the back of your hand, and this is like child's play to you, And of course this isn't serious enough for your intellectual head knowledge.. And yet the bible was written to be simple minded..But of course you haven't worked that out yet?

Emasearu:

Brother, pls be patient. Christ's church is the custodian of the Bible. She'll teach you what U need to know.
John 20:21-23 shows how the Sacrament of Reconciliation was instituted by Jesus Himself . If you deny that validly-ordained priests can forgive sins, you deny the authority of Christ, or imply some other worse things.

Emasearu:
John 3:5- Jesus: "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirt, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." So I'm afraid we can't they would go to Heaven, but we can't say they'd go to Hell either since they weren't old enough to commit any sin or reject baptism. We can trust in God's mercy as to what would befall them.

brocab:
Uben you are not even Christian...

Jusmudi:

Hw many origin 4 u

brocab:
{John 20:21-23} is talking about men and women who have received the Holy spirit and if you forgive they are forgiven, have you not read {Matthew 18:21-22} How many times shall I forgive my Brother who sins against me? Up to seven times. Jesus answered and said I tell you not just seven times but seventy seven times. Because of this, the Kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with His servants.
So you see, Christ wrote this showing us that who ever belongs to Him has the power to forgive sins, that means I can forgive my brother and those against me all day long. In the name of Jesus. But if I am having trouble forgiving I pray to God for Jesus to strenghten me to forgive.
So not just your priest can forgive sins, in Christ, we all can forgive each other.

brocab:
{John 20:21-23} is talking about men and women who have received the Holy spirit and if you forgive they are forgiven, have you not read [color=#990000]{Matthew 18:21-22}

Jusmudi:

Hw many origin 4 u

Ubenedictus:
You guys are now judges over my immortal soul and have decleared me a non-christian even though the word of God, his Spirit and his church say that i am. Oya sit on ur judgement throne and judge me, it doesn't matter, on the last day we will know who is who, untill then u can condemn me with ur mouth.

Ubenedictus:
After accusing me of not been a christian, u come back with your long epistle.

oga shift, u thought about me are your own after drawing ur presumptous conclusion u came back to write examine urself.

shift!

Emasearu:
I am sorry, but I disagree with you. John was talking about "the disciples" of Jesus. That's the phrase used in my version. Note the use of the definite article. And that suggested to me that it was the Twelve, because I don't see how all of Jesus' disciples would fit in one room. In fact, they -- ten of the Twelve -- were the ones being referred to.