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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:25am On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:


grin Hehehe! It is just that I noticed shumbody don know say he will be invited. grin I no call name oooo.


Apart from that, I don't have any problem with his in invitation. That's all.

grin

Have you noticed that most of your favorite players are not always being invited?

At least that man that included Raheem Lawal among list of players not likely to be invited scored 100%. grin

Last time I check Rohr is not a Nigerian. So your favorite word : "Nepotism" does not hold water here.

I have always told you to put sentiments aside when calling for players inclusion. But you no hear. grin


You don't need to be a magician to know Success deserves a call up.


Nigeria's current best players(excluding Ighalo) have just been invited. Period!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 9:28am On Sep 23, 2016
zicky:
Welcome namesake to the Eagles setup. We prayed for Success in our world cup qualifiers, we just got one
It seems Coach Rohr is a NLander on sports section grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:23am On Sep 23, 2016
terzurum5:
It seems Coach Rohr is a NLander on sports section grin
cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 11:21am On Sep 23, 2016
reporting for duty boss cool

have to say in a long time i haven't seen an invitation list that i'm satisfied with like this. only comma for me is igiebor. he's not even our best player in israel unlike john ogu (hmm NFF official/godfather things lipsrsealed)

i like your lineup very attack minded but i would rather we adopt a cautious approach. this is zambia we are talking about and an away match for that matter. i say we go with a 3 man midfield i.e mikel and 2 of esiti\onazi\ndidi. success will drop to the bench for the first half so we go with a forward 3 of iheanacho, V. Moses and iwobi. mikel will join in attack as situation demands. like a 4-2-1-3 formation. once we have controlled the tempo of the game and the zambians initial gra gra fizzles out then we can unleash success and musa on them then switching to a more attacking 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 formation.

rohr should also pull the ear of moses and iwobi and preach to them the gospel of always tracking back to help your full backs. also someone should wrap a chain with an anchor around onazi's waist (if he gets to start) and plant it in our half so he won't venture beyond the half way line.

very optimistic a win is achievable with this squad

TheGoodJoe:
I propose we go with a 4-3-3 formation. An attacking line up with three forwards.

----------------------------------Carl Ikeme(GK)----------------------------------------
---------------------Ekong(CB)----------------Balogun(CB)------------------
M. Mohammed(RB)----------------------------------------------------Echiejile(LB)
----------------------------------------Onazi(DMF)----------------------------------------------
-------------------Iwobi(CMF/AMF)-------------Mikel(CMF/AMF)-----------------
---------------V. Moses(SS)-------------------------------------------Success(SS)
-------------------------------------------Iheanacho(CF)----------------------------------

Left back is a challenge for me because I do not trust Echiejile's crosses and tracking back. I put his name there because of his experience and I have not watched much of Madu's defending.

A lot of us hurled criticism at V. Moses because of his stingy play. However, he can become an asset with more license to attack. Instead of sticking to the flanks to cross and pass, a combination of three skillful strikers will bring out the best in Moses. We will see them exchange brilliantly close to goal and cause Zambia problems.

Mikel and Iwobi have the duty of disciplined play and key passes to unlock the opponents defence.

Onazi must stick to his disciplined play as he did against Tanzania. The setup is offensive and a stable defensive midfielder is crucial to prevent counter attacks.

Rohr should reduce the forward play of Echiejile to reduce the work he does to track back. Onazi should fill gaps.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:29am On Sep 23, 2016
terzurum5:

Who told you Imoh Ezekiel was dropped because the Club he plays? The Coach or someone in the Glasshouse?


I don't know much about Brain Idowu. But I together with some some stakeholders had canversed for the invitation of Kenneth Otigba. However, the responsibility to do so rests with the technical crew.


If Imoh Ezekiel was ignored on the bases of the Club he plays for, why did the Coach invite him for the Tanzanian game? Or wasn't the Coach aware of his Club when he extended invitation to him earlier? I am beginning to wonder the kind of ''thinking model'' you applied before coming up with some of your points.

It is obvious the Coach watched him in the Olympics and Super Eagles training, hence the need to give Isaac Success his chance.

I believe Isaac Success merited his invitation by putting up impressive performances in the EPL games so far.


So please stop this your early insinuation of ''Shumting'' in the NFF.

For the Coach I see him inviting players that are doing well in their various Clubs one by one, so please exercise some patience.

Nobody but why was he dropped?

I didn't say because of coach or someone in the glass house. You don't understand my figure of speech. The person understood.


However, it is obvious Ezekiel Imoh was dropped based on current form and that's in connection with his performance in the club. So, yes, I can say because of club. Habi you don hear about his performance lately?

We know the responsibility of selecting players solely relies on the coach but they're not exempted from being held accountable for their actions or in actions.


They need to show fairness in selection of players.

Nigeria national team is not their family business, it is National business in which we as stockholders should endeavour to normally or naturally defend our interest. hence players must be invited based on merit and current form which must be devoid of schism and nepotism.


Although, I never casted aspiration on this list but I suggested some players ought to have been invited ahead of some and that was all.



And for that reason, I requested Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu should have been invited instead of Shehu Abdullahi and Jamiu Alimi. This is based on their current form. I don't think I am asking for too much.


You should have known that Ezekiel Imoh was invited based on his performance at the Olympics because it was glaring he was the second best player for us in that tournament and before he went for the Olympics he played for Anderlecht and not the current club.

But after the Olympics and the Tanzania match, he went to an obscure league where he has not played a single match for his club.

So, who will invite that kind of player?


If you are talking about talent, I don't think Isaac Success got Imoh Ezekiel kind of talent. You know na.

When someone said or suggested that Isaac Success should be invitation to the National team, he was not performing as at that time. This is what leads to my suspicion about 'shumbody' which you yourself cannot decode. Maybe that's why you misunderstood my point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:58am On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:


Nobody but why was he dropped?

I didn't say because of coach or someone in the glass house. You don't understand my figure of speech. The person understood.


However, it is obvious Ezekiel Imoh was dropped based on current form and that's in connection with his performance in the club. So, yes, I can say because of club. Habi you don hear about his performance lately?

We know the responsibility of selecting players solely relies on the coach but they're not exempted from being held accountable for their actions or in actions.


They need to show fairness in selection of players.

Nigeria national team is not their family business, it is National business in which we as stockholders should endeavour to normally or naturally defend our interest. hence players must be invited based on merit and current form which must be devoid of schism and nepotism.


Although, I never casted aspiration on this list but I suggested some players ought to have been invited ahead of some and that was all.



And for that reason, I requested Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu should have been invited instead of Shehu Abdullahi and Jamiu Alimi. This is based on their current form. I don't think I am asking for too much.


You should have known that Ezekiel Imoh was invited based on his performance at the Olympics because it was glaring he was the second best player for us in that tournament and before he went for the Olympics he played for Anderlecht and not the current club.

But after the Olympics and the Tanzania match, he went to an obscure league where he has not played a single match for his club.

So, who will invite that kind of player?


If you are talking about talent, I don't think Isaac Success got Imoh Ezekiel kind of talent. You know na.

When someone said or suggested that Isaac Success should be invitation to the National team, he was not performing as at that time. This is what leads to my suspicion about 'shumbody' which you yourself cannot decode. Maybe that's why you misunderstood my point.




You throw this best player stuff too much around. How are you sure Imoh was our second best player.

Without Azubuike, it was difficult against the Germans. Ekong was like a miracle defender there.

I doubt we can single Imoh as the second best player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 11:58am On Sep 23, 2016
@forgiveness, In Nigeria's national team call ups certain factors matter.
1. Skill/Form
2. League you are playing
3.Nff connection
4. Agent connection/Pocket
5. Journalists connection
6. Nigerians call/Pressure
7. Godfather
So if you are talking of Imoh back in Qatar being his dark spot, where is musa mohmd playing? when last did he play club football? When Imoh was super hot in Belgium nobody invited him talkless of now that he is not so. Same with Success & Ighalo in Spain WIWO, no invitation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:01pm On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:


Nobody but why was he dropped?

I didn't say because of coach or someone in the glass house. You don't understand my figure of speech. The person understood.


However, it is obvious Ezekiel Imoh was dropped based on current form and that's in connection with his performance in the club. So, yes, I can say because of club. Habi you don hear about his performance lately?

We know the responsibility of selecting players solely relies on the coach but they're not exempted from being held accountable for their actions or in actions.


They need to show fairness in selection of players.

Nigeria national team is not their family business, it is National business in which we as stockholders should endeavour to normally or naturally defend our interest. hence players must be invited based on merit and current form which must be devoid of schism and nepotism.


Although, I never casted aspiration on this list but I suggested some players ought to have been invited ahead of some and that was all.



And for that reason, I requested Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu should have been invited instead of Shehu Abdullahi and Jamiu Alimi. This is based on their current form. I don't think I am asking for too much.


You should have known that Ezekiel Imoh was invited based on his performance at the Olympics because it was glaring he was the second best player for us in that tournament and before he went for the Olympics he played for Anderlecht and not the current club.

But after the Olympics and the Tanzania match, he went to an obscure league where he has not played a single match for his club.

So, who will invite that kind of player?


If you are talking about talent, I don't think Isaac Success got Imoh Ezekiel kind of talent. You know na.

When someone said or suggested that Isaac Success should be invitation to the National team, he was not performing as at that time. This is what leads to my suspicion about 'shumbody' which you yourself cannot decode. Maybe that's why you misunderstood my point.



Squawka Football
@Squawka 4 days

Isaac Success completed more take-ons (2) in the 6 minutes he was on the pitch than any other Watford player.


An amazing stat that was difficult for Rohr to ignore.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:07pm On Sep 23, 2016
Icon4s:


grin

Have you noticed that most of your favorite players are not always being invited?

At least that man that included Raheem Lawal among list of players not likely to be invited scored 100%. grin

Last time I check Rohr is not a Nigerian. So your favorite word : "Nepotism" does not hold water here.

I have always told you to put sentiments aside when calling for players inclusion. But you no hear. grin


You don't need to be a magician to know Success deserves a call up.


Nigeria's current best players(excluding Ighalo) have just been invited. Period!


Such as..... I will like you to list 'your favourite players'

You mean 'Anderson Esiti doesn't deserve a call up? grin

Rorh was not employed by himself, he was employed by the technical committee grin, who are dey? grin

Afterall, the list released for the Tanzania match, we learnt didn't come from Rorh. grin As you can see, na still d same list with small changes. grin

'sentiments' grin U mean sentiments in calling for a player who warm the bench over players playing regularly or you clamouring for an acedemy player over a professional footballer! shocked grin we know you are the subject of that actions. grin

Now that is what I call sentiment but you no dey see. grin

At the time of our debate, you suggested Brown Ideye should be dropped for Isaac Success when Success did nothing special. So, nothing dey obvious to see biko. grin


The list would have been perfect if Shehu Abdullahi and Jamiu Alimi were not called because based on current form Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu are better.

Sir, tell me something I no know. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:13pm On Sep 23, 2016
zoboizee:
@forgiveness, In Nigeria's national team call ups certain factors matter.
1. Skill/Form
2. League you are playing
3.Nff connection
4. Agent connection/Pocket
5. Journalists connection
6. Nigerians call/Pressure
7. Godfather
So if you are talking of Imoh back in Qatar being his dark spot, where is musa mohmd playing? when last did he play club football? When Imoh was super hot in Belgium nobody invited him talkless of now that he is not so. Same with Success & Ighalo in Spain WIWO, no invitation.


Hmm! You are right on point to some extent. The number is not necessary once you have the remaining working for you.

In fact, you know something.

Meaning somebody no like make Ezekiel Imoh displace somebody for National team.

Na who you know.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:14pm On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:


Such as..... I will like you to list 'your favourite players'

You mean 'Anderson Esiti doesn't deserve a call us? grin

Rorh was not employed by himself, he was employed by the technical committee grin, who are dey? grin

Afterall, the list released for the Tanzania match, we learnt didn't come from Rorh. grin As you can see, na still d same list with small changes. grin

'sentiments' grin U mean sentiments in calling for a player who warm the bench over players playing regularly or you clamouring for an acedemy player over a professional footballer! shocked grin we know you are the subject of that actions. grin

Now that is what I call sentiment but you no dey see. grin

At the time of our debate, you suggested Brown Ideye should be dropped for Isaac Success, Success did nothing special. So, nothing dey obvious to see biko. grin


The list would have been perfect if Shehu Abdullahi and Jamiu Alimi were not called because based on current form Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu are better.

Sir, tell me something I no know. grin

Give the coach credit. He has his reasons why Alimi is on the list, even though it might look strange to you. The coach travelled to Spain to watch our NPFL all Stars play against some Spanish teams including Atletico Madrid.

The coached penciled Alimi after that as a promising player. Sometimes we do not argue and watch. Let us judge Alimi's quality when the coach gives him playing time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:18pm On Sep 23, 2016
Relax... Otigba will get his chance. smiley

As for Brian Idowu based in the Russian league, well, he's another one but come on naa.... We no fit call all at once naa or give debuts to all at once.... So just relax. wink

forgiveness:


Such as..... I will like you to list 'your favourite players'

You mean 'Anderson Esiti doesn't deserve a call us? grin

Rorh was not employed by himself, he was employed by the technical committee grin, who are dey? grin

Afterall, the list released for the Tanzania match, we learnt didn't come from Rorh. grin As you can see, na still d same list with small changes. grin

'sentiments' grin U mean sentiments in calling for a player who warm the bench over players playing regularly or you clamouring for an acedemy player over a professional footballer! shocked grin we know you are the subject of that actions. grin

Now that is what I call sentiment but you no dey see. grin

At the time of our debate, you suggested Brown Ideye should be dropped for Isaac Success, Success did nothing special. So, nothing dey obvious to see biko. grin


The list would have been perfect if Shehu Abdullahi and Jamiu Alimi were not called because based on current form Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu are better.

Sir, tell me something I no know. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:21pm On Sep 23, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


You throw this best player stuff too much around. How are you sure Imoh was our second best player.

Without Azubuike, it was difficult against the Germans. Ekong was like a miracle defender there.

I doubt we can single Imoh as the second best player.


If you ask me, who was the best player, I will tell you without blinking that na Mikel Obi and the next to him was Imoh Ezekiel.

Imoh-ezekiel created almost all the chances we had.

In any sport competition, there will always be the best out of all contenders because it was designed to be so.


Messi and Ronaldo na example even though they were helped by other players but they were different and exceptional.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:27pm On Sep 23, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Squawka Football
@Squawka 4 days

Isaac Success completed more take-ons (2) in the 6 minutes he was on the pitch than any other Watford player.


An amazing stat that was difficult for Rohr to ignore.

I am saying Isaac Success don't deserve to be called but I am saying when he demanded for his call, Success did nothing special.

The game against Manchester United was after the debate. Sure, his invitation is on merit.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:29pm On Sep 23, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Relax... Otigba will get his chance. smiley

As for Brian Idowu based in the Russian league, well, he's another one but come on naa.... We no fit call all at once naa or give debuts to all at once.... So just relax. wink


Till when?

Is it when he grows white hair?

The boy even scored in their last match but still not called.

We don't need to wait until he loses form. We need him nau nau.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrinkWater10: 12:31pm On Sep 23, 2016
tbaba1234:
Finally, Esiti gets a call up finally..
People are now getting called on merit...
Ighalo's going for his dad's burial.
Honestly, I thought that Nigerians had forgotten about Anderson Esiti. I m happy he finally got recalled to the Super Eagles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:32pm On Sep 23, 2016
There's Omeruo, Troost and Leon now.... We can't call every dick and harry. So just live with it.

And stop sounding like you're the only who cares for newer talents to be given a chance.

forgiveness:


Till when?

Is it when he grows white hair?

The boy even scored in their last match but still not called.

We don't need to wait until he loses form. We need him nau nau.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 12:45pm On Sep 23, 2016
I ve seen 2 lethargic combination .... I don't know if someone else have seen this? Guess! They oney ones played together when they were much younger . If u watch Nigeria vs Mexico at the under 17 World Cup in 2013 you will understand my point better .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 12:47pm On Sep 23, 2016
I ve seen 2 lethargic combination .... I don't know if someone else have seen this? Guess! They oney ones played together when they were much younger . If u watch Nigeria vs Mexico at the under 17 World Cup in 2013 you will understand my point better .


The future we have been waiting for is almost here .... golden generation gradually gathering momentum .lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:51pm On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:


Till when?

Is it when he grows white hair?

The boy even scored in their last match but still not called.

We don't need to wait until he loses form. We need him nau nau.

Brian Idowu is Russian na... If he was so good, he would gotten a call up to the Russian national team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:55pm On Sep 23, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
There's Omeruo, Troost and Leon now.... We can't call every dick and harry. So just live with it.

And stop sounding like you're the only who cares for newer talents to be given a chance.


Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu are no dick and harry. They are fine players who deserves equal rights to be called for National duties.


Yes, we have those three players but if they suffer injury or receive red card, who will replace them?

These players are growing older day after day and you know what it means.

Now is time accepted.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:08pm On Sep 23, 2016
Sir Tbaba1234 just subtly asked you a question..... Pls do justice to it.

And yeah.... Kenneth Otigba most especially is one I am really looking forward to seeing in the Green and White... But it's just the Zambia game in Ndola... What were u expecting? A 50-man squad??

Next game will reveal another story. It's step by step.... Even Isaac that we all have been clamoring for is now on the list and he's still 20.


And your arguments of "the ones we have are kinda getting old" is not true... Leon is 27 or 28 (not sure). Troost is 22 going on 23. Omeruo is not above 24...


Otigba is about 25 or so.... Brian is 24. So what gives?


The replacements you speak of are still in the same age bracket.... Or slightly older.

For the Zambian game, If Leon is injured, Omeruo and Troost can cope I'm sure. It's just one game (and a world cup qualifier sef) and you wanted a whole battalion of Greenhorns Na wa ooo


Remember Awaziem (19) is another that must bid his time as he's still young and mehn!! We got some good cover in that defence (esp. The Centreback position).

So Oga... Chill... The Nigerian soccer project of this new era is still on. smiley


forgiveness:


Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu are no dick and harry. They are fine players who deserves equal rights to be called for National duties.


Yes, we have those three players but if they suffer injury or receive red card, who will replace them?

These players are growing older day after day and you know what it means.

Now is time accepted.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:08pm On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:


Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu are no dick and harry. They are fine players who deserves equal rights to be called for National duties.


Yes, we have those three players but if they suffer injury or receive red card, who will replace them?

These players are growing older day after day and you know what it means.

Now is time accepted.

Omeruo, Troost and Leon are not old... Leon is 28 and can give us another 5 years.

Omeruo and Troost can be there for another 10 years.

Brian Idowu is russian, he has not been called up by Russia... What makes him better than the other players?

I am checking his Stats and last season, he had 1646 minutes last season from 25 games. An average of 66 minutes.. Meaning, he was not a sure banker regular.

On what basis should he be invited?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:16pm On Sep 23, 2016
tbaba1234:


Brian Idowu is Russian na... If he was so good, he would gotten a call up to the Russian national team.


He is more Nigerian than Russian. His father is a Nigerian and his mother is half Nigerian half Russian.
He lived in Owerri for 3 years.


We should ask ourselves the same question, why was Leon Balogun not called into the German national team?

Probably, it might be because he started playing regularly last season.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:30pm On Sep 23, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Sir Tbaba1234 just subtly asked you a question..... Pls do justice to it.

And yeah.... Kenneth Otigba most especially is one I am really looking forward to seeing in the Green and White... But it's just the Zambia game in Ndola... What were u expecting? A 50-man squad??

Next game will reveal another story. It's step by step.... Even Isaac that we all have been clamoring for is now on the list and he's still 20.


And your arguments of "the ones we have are kinda getting old" is not true... Leon is 27 or 28 (not sure). Troost is 22 going on 23. Omeruo is not above 24...


Otigba is about 25 or so.... Brian is 24. So what gives?


The replacements you speak of are still in the same age bracket.... Or slightly older.

For the Zambian game, If Leon is injured, Omeruo and Troost can cope I'm sure. It's just one game (and a world cup qualifier sef) and you wanted a whole battalion of Greenhorns Na wa ooo


Remember Awaziem (19) is another that must bid his time as he's still young and mehn!! We got some good cover in that defence (esp. The Centreback position).

So Oga... Chill... The Nigerian soccer project of this new era is still on. smiley



I just wanted Jamiu Alimi and Shehu Abdullahi off for Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu and not 50 man list. That's all.

I was not the age of the invited ones, I was talking about Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:34pm On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:



He is more Nigerian than Russian. His father is a Nigerian and his mother is half Nigerian half Russian.
He lived in Owerri for 3 years.


We should ask our the same question, why was Leon Balogun not called into the German national team?

Probably, it might be because he started playing regularly last season.

He was born in Russian and has lived all his life in Russia. According to Wiki, he was only in Nigeria from 3-6. I am in support of giving all Nigerians a chance but you have to earn it.

You can not compare the German national team to the Russian National team, only one is a world cup winner. The competition is certainly stiffer in Germany.

Also, Leon was a regular when he was first invited even though he played in the second division and he was first tested in a friendly. Kesha was experimenting. I don't mind Idowu being tested but in a friendly.

Leon is currently one of the best defenders in Germany and i am sure, would have been given a national team call-up to the German team by now if he had not switched to Nigeria.

I support the invitation of Otigba because of his consistency. He can not bench the starters for now though.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:47pm On Sep 23, 2016
tbaba1234:


Omeruo, Troost and Leon are not old... Leon is 28 and can give us another 5 years.

Omeruo and Troost can be there for another 10 years.

Brian Idowu is russian, he has not been called up by Russia... What makes him better than the other players?

I am checking his Stats and last season, he had 1646 minutes last season from 25 games. An average of 66 minutes.. Meaning, he was not a sure banker regular.

On what basis should he be invited?

I was not referring to Omerue and co. I was referring to Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu.

I asking what makes him better than Jamiu Alimi and Shehu Abdullahi?

It does not matter what he played last season. What matters is his current form this season.

Now, give us the statistics for this season.

Brain Idowu is more of Nigerian than Russian.

He started playing regularly last season and perhaps Russian factor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:51pm On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:



If you ask me, who was the best player, I will tell you without blinking that na Mikel Obi and the next to him was Imoh Ezekiel.

Imoh-ezekiel created almost all the chances we had.

In any sport competition, there will always be the best out of all contenders because it was designed to be so.


Messi and Ronaldo na example even though they were helped by other players but they were different and exceptional.

So you think creating chances is enough to rate Imoh as the second best.

To me, he was not better than Ekong. Ekong did not only defend well but also helped the midfield stay fluid. Imoh is to create chances as a winger and Ekong is to defend.

Ekong ball playing skills were exceptional. His performance took him straight to the starting line-up. Creating chances is not enough.

Just as defending is not enough to rate a defender as the best. There has to be an extra contribution, which Ekong's ball playing added.

Also, without Azubuike's performance, Imoh did not count against the Germans. That will tell you how important the other players were.

You might feel Imoh was the best. That is your opinion. Just do not make it as a general opinion.

Do not bring Messi and CR7 in this debate because there is no way to equate Imoh in that class. Despite creating chances, these guys break scoring records year after year. Or, did Imoh break scoring record?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:57pm On Sep 23, 2016
tbaba1234:


He was born in Russian and has lived all his life in Russia. According to Wiki, he was only in Nigeria from 3-6. I am in support of giving all Nigerians a chance but you have to earn it.

You can not compare the German national team to the Russian National team, only one is a world cup winner. The competition is certainly stiffer in Germany.

Also, Leon was a regular when he was first invited even though he played in the second division and he was first tested in a friendly. Kesha was experimenting. I don't mind Idowu being tested but in a friendly.

Leon is currently one of the best defenders in Germany and i am sure, would have been given a national team call-up to the German team by now if he had not switched to Nigeria.

I support the invitation of Otigba because of his consistency. He can not bench the starters for now though.

So, should we wait until he becomes the best and get invitation to the Russian national team?

His he not playing regularly for his club?

How do we know Otigba can't bench the starter?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:57pm On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:


I was not referring to Omerue and co. I was referring to Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu.

I asking what makes him better than Jamiu Alimi and Shehu Abdullahi?

It does not matter what he played last season. What matters is his current form this season.

Now, give us the statistics for this season.

Brain Idowu is more of Nigerian than Russian.

He started playing regularly last season and perhaps Russian factor.

Rohr's team is still evolving. Shehu and Jamiu must have impressed Rohr in the last camp.

I am sure Imoh fell short in the last camp.

If Idowu posts impressive performances this season, he will get noticed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:15pm On Sep 23, 2016
@thegoodjoe, I sent you a PM, I hope your NL e-mail isn't as dormant as mine smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:29pm On Sep 23, 2016
forgiveness:


Such as..... I will like you to list 'your favourite players'

You mean 'Anderson Esiti doesn't deserve a call us? grin

Rorh was not employed by himself, he was employed by the technical committee grin, who are dey? grin

Afterall, the list released for the Tanzania match, we learnt didn't come from Rorh. grin As you can see, na still d same list with small changes. grin

'sentiments' grin U mean sentiments in calling for a player who warm the bench over players playing regularly or you clamouring for an acedemy player over a professional footballer! shocked grin we know you are the subject of that actions. grin

Now that is what I call sentiment but you no dey see. grin

At the time of our debate, you suggested Brown Ideye should be dropped for Isaac Success when Success did nothing special. So, nothing dey obvious to see biko. grin


The list would have been perfect if Shehu Abdullahi and Jamiu Alimi were not called because based on current form Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu are better.

Sir, tell me something I no know. grin

No need to argue about the bolded. Sir TheGoodJoe, what can you say about the bolded point attributed to me by forgiveness grin

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