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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:34am On Sep 21, 2016 |
mavverick: Yes price still up and will likely go up more. Well if you have huge need for cement (like a trailer load), I will supply you @ N2000 for classic and N2050 for supaset, I will deliver it to anywhere you want at this price! Cheers |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 5:57pm On Sep 21, 2016 |
what a thread? ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 8:54pm On Sep 21, 2016 |
gbadexy:This concept is nice, we have couple of this in Nigeria, In Nigerdock, and some multinationals, but trust me nijas are addicted to cement and bricks not too sure lot of peeps will embrace this. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 9:08pm On Sep 21, 2016 |
Aventures:It would be nice if the price was more motivating. Here is the list of their building types I got off their site: The available ranges of cost and structures,are as follows: Studio/1 bedroom – N2 000 000 – N2 500 000 2 bedroom flat / bungalow – N3 500 000 – N4 500 000 3bedroom flat / bungalow – N5 000 000 – N6 500 000 3 bedroom terrace – N7 000 000 – N8 500 000 Construction costs range from N50 000 – N75 000 per sqm depending on final specification and finishes. It's going to be durable though especially when given sufficient anti rust coat and pop plaster to protect it against fire. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mayor78: 12:27am On Sep 22, 2016 |
gbadexy:This must be a joke ![]() ![]() ![]() Containerised house for millions and millions!!!! What happens to mother earth mud house that I will spend millions on container house when am not in Brixton market. Even in Brixton market where Oyibo people are subtly chasing Jamo's and other blacks out of their age long London surburb sanctuaries, containerised structures aren't that expensive. But what is my own sef!! Even if they cost nothing, It would make more economic sense for me to spend the cost of adapting it to livable space to constructing a super mud house anyday. Except if I have to import mud which is unlikely anywhere in naij. Some building innovations are meant for travellers, transient companies, and campers!! No wonder!! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 12:51am On Sep 22, 2016 |
gbadexy: Aventures: Mayor78: The bolded is very true! [b]And it is not that we are addicted to brick and mortar, it is what has proved economical and very viable for our environment, putting into consideration our high environmental Temperature and humidity. We live in an under-developed environment where "processed" building materials are not readily available until recent copled with iregular power supply, one thing that can make a lot of difference in living style We also have a knack for "heavy foot-steps" when walking, talking in "normal tones" which some will qualify as "these Nigerians too shout"!.... not to mention our penchant for pounding yam on the first floor! ![]() In summary, there is not need for us Nigerians, to be attempting to be an "Eskimo", ....by trying to live in an "Igloo". ![]() ![]() "Environment" and "Type of Habitat" there-in, usually go hand-in-hand.[/b] Lastpage! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kieldgreat: 8:26pm On Sep 22, 2016 |
Just got this quote from my Electrician for wiring a 3-bedroom flat. Bosses in the house kindly advise. E no go good make person chop me for this Buharinomics. ![]() 4 bundles 20mm pipe - 3000ea - 12000 1 bundle 25mm pipe - 4500ea - 4500 6 packets 3X3 socket box - 500 ea - 3000 2 packets 3X6 Socket box - 500ea - 1000 2 packets U Box - 1500ea - 3000 3 packets Looping Box- 1500 each - 3000 2 packets 20mm Male Bush - 1500ea - 3000 1 packet 25mm Male bush - 2500ea - 2500 1 Distribution Box - 15000 - - 15000 2pcs 6X6 Adaptable Box - 800ea - 1600 1pc Cooker unit cover - 1000 - 1000 2 packets 20mm Coupler - 1200ea - 2400 Workmanship for laying pipes - 50,000 For Wiring: 6 coils 1.5mm Red - 3500 each - 21000 5 coils 1.5mm Black - 3500 each - 17500 4 coils 2.5mm Red - 4500 each - 18000 4 coils 2.5mm Black - 4500 each - 18000 1 coil 10mm loading wire - 15000 1 coil 2.5mm coaxial cable - 4000 1 Ceramic cut out fuse - 1000 1pc 2.5mm earth - 5000 1 coil 1.5mm Green - 3500 Workmanship for wiring - 70,000 Total - 281,000 Thanks |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:44am On Sep 23, 2016 |
I need advice from the house . . . Currently involved in the construction of my home, and just got feed-back from a plumber I got to take a second look at my plumbing that I should replace the PVC pipes in the house with PPR Materials for water supply and UPVC for discharge. I would like to inquire about what advantages I would get from doing this. I look forward to your responses. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 9:01am On Sep 23, 2016 |
Bagehot:To get fast response, mention those whose specialty it is you are seeking their input. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 6:14am On Sep 24, 2016 |
Who is this. I know you, You know me. Abi your dream don extend to sleep writing. Gabbytabby wetin. Abeg go take water wash ya face abi you want make I esend you holy water. ![]() ![]() ![]() Welcome back to 9ja. Oldlayez: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 6:32am On Sep 24, 2016 |
Too good to be true. 2 packs of 3by6 no go do. e dey maķe him own wire? 2.5mm for 4.5k, 10mm for 15k etc. Labour for all piping and wiring for one 3 bed should not be more than 60k. Get 2 more quotes. Kieldgreat: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 3:06pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
gabbytabby: Seconded. Those wire prices look too cheap. The least Nigeria wire should be around N5,250. Be guided. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 3:43pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Kieldgreat: I doubt if your electrician give correct nigeria cable. How can 10mm nigeria cable sell for 15k? Hmmm the cbale he quoted are china cables. For the pipes, I don't know the size of your house and the number of fittings to be installed. Thanks |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 6:11pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Seriously I dey join you laff hehehe my brother dey get carried away. Him don vex for dangote oh. erico2k2: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 6:28pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
[quote author=Kieldgreat post=49588964]Just got this quote from my Electrician for wiring a 3-bedroom flat. Bosses in the house kindly advise. E no go good make person chop me for this Buharinomics. ![]() 4 bundles 20mm pipe - 3000ea - 12000 1 bundle 25mm pipe - 4500ea - 4500 6 packets 3X3 socket box - 500 ea - 3000 2 packets 3X6 Socket box - 500ea - 1000 2 packets U Box - 1500ea - 3000 3 packets Looping Box- 1500 each - 3000 2 packets 20mm Male Bush - 1500ea - 3000 1 packet 25mm Male bush - 2500ea - 2500 1 Distribution Box - 15000 - - 15000 2pcs 6X6 Adaptable Box - 800ea - 1600 1pc Cooker unit cover - 1000 - 1000 2 packets 20mm Coupler - 1200ea - 2400 Workmanship for laying pipes - 50,000 For Wiring: 6 coils 1.5mm Red - 3500 each - 21000 5 coils 1.5mm Black - 3500 each - 17500 4 coils 2.5mm Red - 4500 each - 18000 4 coils 2.5mm Black - 4500 each - 18000 1 coil 10mm loading wire - 15000 1 coil 2.5mm coaxial cable - 4000 1 Ceramic cut out fuse - 1000 1pc 2.5mm earth - 5000 1 coil 1.5mm Green - 3500 Workmanship for wiring - 70,000 Total - 281,000 Thanks[/quote) Ebi like say this guy dey make his owned wire from his back yard. I hope its not the cables that burns people houses sha. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 6:30pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Kieldgreat:Ebi like say this guy dey make his owned wire from his back yard. I hope its not the cables that burns people houses sha. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abunafiu(m): 7:38pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Solar pays in the long run. Home owners and prospective home owners should consider solar. Here's my system. I still reside in a rented apartment which has limitations. By the time I move to my place. I have a special dedicated power room for my power gadgets. 16 batteries (6v 225ah flooded) 5kva inverter 96amps mppt charge controller Surge protection. 3000w solar panels ( to be upgraded to 4kw on reaching my permanent site). With all these, home automation can be a possibility. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:03pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Kieldgreat: Some of the prices for cable can't be true unless he is buying inferior cable... How can 1.5mm be 3500? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 12:06pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
Very true I bought 1.5mm cable for N3,350 coleman original in October 2015, bought same cable last week for N5,000. So I dont believe those prices unless they are brabus stolen ones or fakes. twinskenny: 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 12:08pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
Thanks for the offer, I think i am at the level now where i only buy like 5/10 bags of cement as we need it, rather than 300 and above so I will pass. coonz: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 2:00pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
Not a plumber, but i used primarily PPR pipes for my build, so I can give you a customers point of view. so excuse my lack of expert knowledge Now, its a good and strong product, but beware of these things. # It cost a lot more than PVC # Not as widely available like PVC # Beware of fakes, there is the original from Turkey or so and then there are other grades of lookalikes # It has a lot of ceremony compared to PVC # You will need Generator if there is no electricity # Can only be used to run hot and cold but not waste, the biggest is not up to 100mm of 4" inches. I think 60 something which they dont really use in Nigeria. I will touch on the points above briefly, if PVC pipes cost like N1,000, PPR will be like 20-30% more expensive (I dont know the prices as of today). You can rarely interchange the accessories as well, so in my experience I found myself buying 2 sets of materials, the PVC ones and the PPR ones, the PVC ones comes in like different sizes like 15mm, 21mm etc, PPR is like 32mm etc. Sorry i cant remember the exact details, those days of going to Orile are over. The ceremony i meant is this, when my project was starting I was asked to buy the welding machine, of which I protested that why should I be buying tools for workers, in the end I looked at it that if they finish the welding machine would be mine for later maintenance etc, little did I know that the machine would not last the entire duration of the plumbing works, it spoilt and I suspect misuse on the path of the plumbers, so lets leave that story. I also had to provide Gen for like over 6 months. In fact rental would not have been worth it, I have a gen for site use. This was before I connected to the grid, in fact we still have the Gen on site. With PVC, buy tangit glue, apply to the edges and then join your pipe, end of story. In the end, a very good product as I believe in doing things well if you are indeed going to do it, but it came at a very high cost. With PVC pipes I can glue it myself which I do in my own house for small repairs (Not nija). After I lost my welding machine due to suspected misuse, I had to buy another from Europe, as I wanted to have one on site for future maintenance etc. I dont like being exploited. Bagehot: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by parisbluefox: 4:24pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
I need advice from the house please....I'm about to commence with the construction of a 4 bedroom bungalow and the builder sent me the quotation below for labour/workmanship. Please I would like to know if the amount he's asking for is reasonable! SITE LOCATION: AGBOR, DELTA STATE. 1. PEGGING:....................30,000 2. DIGGING.....................40,000 3. FOUNDATION CONCREATE BLINDING:.............40,000 4. BLOCK WORK ( FOUNDATION)............180,000 5. FOUNDATION FILLING AND COMPACTION:............70, 000 6. FOUNDATION CONCRATE FLOORING:...................100,000 7. BLOCK WORK FROM DPC TO LINTEL:....................240,000 8. CASTING OF LINTEL:.........................................50,000 9. BLOCK LEVELLING:......................................125,000 10.CARPENTRY WORK:...............50,000 11. IRON WORK:......................40,000 ===================================== TOTAL 965,000 NAIRA. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 4:51pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
gabbytabby:Madam i greet oo, one of my mentor on this forum. The bad belle plenty for Dangote. I dey vex badly bros i need 300 bags for my decking. Sand dey ground, granites dey ground, even Iron rods dey ground. Naa wood and cement be the major thing we remain. I have been doing fasting and praying make the price go down because some people don abuse me here sey even 1 block i no get. Naa dem be baba olowo |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 6:04pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
abunafiu: No doubt that Solar pays.... in the long run. The SUN's energy is free! It is considerations like space (where it was not planned for in the building drawings or you are renting and cant just do willy-nilly), initial cost outlay and Batteries management that inhibits most people, from using it. Let me ask: What informed your choice of 6V batteries, instead of 12V or 24V? IMO, you can achieve your stated capacity using a smaller number/array of batteries than the current setup, if you were to use 12V or even better, 24V. What is the voltage rating of each of your Panels? Thanks, Lastpage! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 6:19pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
lastpage:this post is from the solar energy thread posted by user GeorgeD1. Solar though expensive initially will pay for itself in the long run. bigrovar, many peeps complaining about the high cost of solar never really sit down to do the maths. still, many of us trying to wean people off the 'generator mentally' are sometimes at a loss when faced with such complaints as solar being too expensive. but when we are armed with facts such as this, the advantages of solar in terms of cost savings becomes staggering. do you know that even with dollar at 500 naira, solar is still cheaper to set up compared with the long-term cost of running fuel-guzzling generators over the space of 25 years? my solar panels are still pumping out juice over 6 years after installation just like they did from day one. my inverter is still doing great with no issues at all. batteries are performing marvellously. at this rate, i'm seeing myself coasting through another couple of years before worrying about any system or component failure. so, doing the 25year maths for cost of running generators, it will be like this: 522,000*25 = 13,050,000 naira and if i were to run my generator for double the time, i'e 24hrs everyday (like my inverter presently) it will amount to: 13,050,000*2 = 26,100,000 naira spent over that space of time. thankfully though, I don't have to incur this cost anymore thanks to solar. truly, the sun is the answer! 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 7:46pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You no dey fear oo. A whole decorated US trained, UK Citizen, 5 star GENERAL u yeye like that !! Not to forget the GCFR, GCON, OON, AFR, NL, JJC, 419 titles self ! ![]() ![]() 3strikes: 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 9:40pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
babajis2010:Just incase you forgot, this is the property section 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 10:59pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
DUNKA: My major concern is the batteries. I had an inverter some years back but the battery did not last that much long. I guess sit has to do with my over-draining it as l do use it till "it runs out of juice". Having learnt from others, l have a bigger setup now that is doing better but at the back of my mind, l still worry about the batteries. Can you confirm that your batteries have used up to six years (the same set of batteries from inception) or did you have to change one or two among the set? What make of batteries? Thanks, Lastpage! Edited: just realised it was a post from another user. But do you have a Solar setup yourself? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abunafiu(m): 11:22pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
lastpage:Permit me to answer on behalf of George and dunka. George has been the inspiration behind most of us. yes dunka owns a set up. in terms of cost, I think his set up is even more expensive than mine. I am aware George has been using his batteries since 2013 or even earlier and as at last week when we discussed he confirmed that the batteries are still working as new. my batteries have been working since June 2014. I want to tell you that, I have been enjoying every moment with them. as you mentioned earlier, draining Batteries to zero kills them in their prime. kindly breeze tru the fta solar thread, I bet you will have more reasons to consider solar in your builds. as for me, I hope to make my solar array 4000 watts by the time I complete my build. I intend to use it to construct a car park. due to scarcity of funds, Ill be using wood instead of galvanised steel to fabricate the legs/supports. I have invested a lot in the journey into energy freedom. I currently enjoy 24hrs uninterrupted power supply in my house. you will be surprised that I use only maximum of 2 fans , 1tv, decoder and about 8 bulbs(7w led). occasionally pump water 1hp, I iron my clothes on demand (only when going out). when out of gas, we cook with it till we buy gas the following day. these are the reasons why I am sure if I get d proper materials, home automation will be very easy for me. I need ideas especially now that the house is still under construction. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mayor78: 11:45pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
parisbluefox:Well I wouldnt say anything yet on other quotes from this your builder but it is either you mistyped the cost of block levelling @ 125,000 or he may be refering to something else. How can he qoute 240k for blockwork from DPC to Lintel as at No. 7 then charge 125k for levelling as in No. 9 perhaps after the lintel except if he is talking of chaining after last blocks which usually is between 2-3 blocks after lintel depending on structural specifications. If he is talking of just block levelling, the quote didnt make sense @125k given his quote 9 of 240k from DPC to lintel which is usually between 9-12 blocks again depending on design. Because hypothetically, assumming from DPC to lintel for your building is 10coaches, it then means that his qoute for each coach at that stage round the house is 24K per coach. If that is the case, then a 2or3 block leveling after lintel would workout at either 48 or 72k, which either way is far below the 125k he qouted. If you happen to find any spurious quote on a qoutation, you will better be on the side of caution as other items qouted are most probably spurious too. Again if variations are above 5-10% margin from the ordinary, accepting and qualifying the value and integrity of the quote is subjective but for me I wouldn't trust such builder and most likely not accept the quote. I didnt comment on blockwork for foundation as at No.4 @180k because using the above calculations 4 or 5coaches from foundation would be between 96 and 120k respectively. For most bungalows 4coaches is ideal except if your site is around the Tomopolo's Niger Delta!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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