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Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Ranchhoddas: 9:15am On Sep 24, 2016 |
honourhim:I know. He makes claims without proof. You do the same. Different sides of a coin. No difference. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Nobody: 10:03am On Sep 24, 2016 |
Please, don't worry about my problem and desist from ad hominem attacks. Ignore my posts if they make you uncomfortable, I only wonder why. Apparently, you didn't read the verses I posted because I wonder why you would be asking the same questions. Again, no scriptural basis for your 'confront the spirit with the spirit in you' ...please state where that is in the bible. In the bible, revelations and letters from even Paul were subject to testing with Scripture the Bareans checked the scripture (Acts 17:11) Perhaps, you can tell me where the Holy Spirit is because we just may be talking about different spirits. Gboyee4fun: |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Gboyee4fun(m): 10:38am On Sep 24, 2016 |
TheSixthSense: bro, I don't have time to argue with you on scripture...but the last question I will ask you is that are you working towards the unity of the body of Christ or are you just promoting the blasphemous style of the devil?.....I will advice you to really pray and give the Holy spirit chance to perfect what you think you know. shalom |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Nobody: 10:52am On Sep 24, 2016 |
Am I surprised? Please don't mention me again. Gboyee4fun: |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by honourhim: 11:33am On Sep 24, 2016 |
Gboyee4fun: You seem to argue blindly. He only called a spade what it actually is and you are getting yourself worked up. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by honourhim: 11:40am On Sep 24, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: I told you how people of other religion and atheists who have experienced hell testified of it as true hence they converted to christianity. You just referred me to someone who is telling me about his religion. That's not what i asked you to show me. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Gboyee4fun(m): 11:40am On Sep 24, 2016 |
honourhim: bro, I don't argue blindly... those men of God he said they are fake are not fake, he should do his search very well before misinforming the public..... |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Ranchhoddas: 11:43am On Sep 24, 2016 |
honourhim:What do you want me to show you? |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by raphieMontella: 12:16pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
honourhim:oga collect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanti_Devi then read ian stevenson's study on reincarnation..he published a book bout it.. Also jim tucker's life before life.. The igbos believed in reincarnation long before christianity came..they gave their kids certain marks for indentification when they will be reborn etc... 1 Like |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by promise10: 12:45pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
raphieMontella:Sorry the site you gave proves it as false! And you believed the igbo's reincarnation, even without a video proof? So sorry! |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by honourhim: 1:25pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
raphieMontella: Oga your link is a kwashiokor link. Every little thing you people rush to wikipedia Give me testimonies of people of other religion and atheists who have had the reincarnation experience and dumped their religion/belief to join the ones that preach reincarnation. There are thousands upon thousands of people of other religions and atheists who have experienced hell fire and embraced christianity after the experience. Thats the kind of thing i am looking out for from you too. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by raphieMontella: 1:53pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
promise10:did you read the article at all? And you believed the igbo's reincarnation, even without a video proof?oh,,,video? Buut you want me to believe heaven and hell without seeing selfies? Mind you..they were investigated(modern cases of reincarnation) and im actually an igbo dude... So sorry!ps i dont believe in either of them;afterlife and reincarnation... So dont misunderstand. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by promise10: 2:09pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
raphieMontella:As for the link, it's not the kind of info he seeks! As for selfies, I hope that you saw your mum's labour room selfies before you believe she really gave birth to you. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by raphieMontella: 3:11pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
honourhim:just do a google search on the name...okay? this is where you are wrong.. Reincarnation is not a kind of religion.. But it could be a part of a religious ideology i dont really understand you here... click::reincarnation that led to change of religion |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by raphieMontella: 3:13pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
promise10:i believe i did what he asked for...anything else...na una headache.. Dont equate your god to my mum...its a really silly flawed analogy... |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by analice107: 3:33pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
TheSixthSense: C.S. Spurgeon is my man. Arthur W. Pink is also my man. the others i have not read their works. These all with their individual giftings have their places in the advancement of the body, it doesn't mean these other ones are fake. If they are fake, maybe we point out their errors here for scrutiny. If we find them wanting in the light of the Scriptures, we can still hand over to God Christ gave different gifts and their distinct administrations to his bride the church, to profit her. All the ministers wont function under the same gifts, Admin, and operations nah. Lets see here; Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are DIFFERENT IN ADMINISTRATIONS, but the same Lord. And there are DIVERSITIES of OPERATIONS, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 1Cor: 12:6 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 1 Corinthians:12:7 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 1 Corinthians:12:8 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 1 Corinthians:12:9 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 1 Corinthians:12:10 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 1 Corinthians:12:11 Sir, pls read the above scriptures and know that God gives his people different gifts, different administrations and they operate differently. If Smith Wigglesword operates differently from Charles Spurgeon does not make Spurgeon better than Smith, or that Smith is not called of God because he does not function like Spurgeon ONCE UPON A TIME, I WAS LIKE YOU. Sceptical, critical, quick to analyze base on my little wisdom, quick to condemn. But now, i see differently. God didn't call me to judge others, He called me to declare His Love. And that is what i shd do. Going through the Bible, i never came across "The gospel of condemnation", i only saw " The Gospel of Reconciliation". Condemnation doesn't glorify God, Reconciliation does. You cant in love, if you work in condemnation. If someone is working in error, as a soldier of the cross, you go on your knees on his behalf. Soldiers don't kill their wounded, they try to pull them to safety and see the extent of damage, then resuscitate. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by analice107: 3:54pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
TheSixthSense: hahahahahahahahaha. Really? Are you serious? You write Joyce Meyer off because she said we must all surrender to the all seeing eye of God? Do you seriously imply that satan is the all seeing eye? Really? If you give that to Satan, you must also give him the omniscient status. Satan is not all seeing, neither is he all knowing, that he claims it or his followers claim it, doesn't make it true. If satan is the All seeing Eye, why does he employ the services of other demons as monitoring spirits and familia spirits? He has celestial and territorial demons who monitor events and activities for him. Why is that? Does God have monitoring spirits? Satan placed a wager before God that him too will sit on a throne and be worshipped as God. This he has done by pretending, lying, disguising taking up many of God's attributes, and in our ignorance, without really using the scriptures as a measuring compass we believed him. Many of what is attributed to Satan are lies. Guy, we are helping satan scatter the church. For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars. 2 Chronicles:16:9 2 Likes |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Anas09: 4:35pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Gboyee4fun: But i quoted from the word of God too nah. I didnt mention Peter. You mentioned Balaam as being in the same category with those who started with God, then i said, Balaam never started with God, which is true. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Anas09: 4:37pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:because i know what the sxriptures says about that. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Nobody: 4:39pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
The Bible never describes God as the 'all-seeing eye.' She never even said all-seeing eye of god. Another from her: "We have to have the revelation that we are living under the All-Seeing Eye." Americans especially should know that it is the eye on top of the pyramid behind the dollar note is the all-seeing eye, the masonic pyramid that represents Satan. These guys preach that we are gods, that Jesus Christ was tortured in hell (I wonder where they get that), Jesus was the first born again...listening to short clips of Copeland troubles me. analice107: |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Ranchhoddas: 4:43pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Anas09:Chapter and verse. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Ranchhoddas: 4:43pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Anas09: |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Anas09: 5:09pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Lets start my using common sense. The word "Familia" explains itself. Spirts are invisible and undetectable but ever present beings. They live for ever. Mirriam Webster Dictionary defines familia spirits as demon that serves or prompts an individual. Its a household demon which gives an individual information past or present. A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus:20:27 So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, even against the word of the LORD, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; 1 Chronicles:10:13 And we know that every family line has spirits attached to them. If they serve God, they have Angels of God attached to them, if the serve satan they have demons attached to them. When a host (an individual) dies, the spirit possessing him leaves and possess another member of that family and on and on it goes. When the spirits possesses a man, ofcourse, it knows all the activities performed by that man, and wen it possesses another, it projects the memories of the last host to the new host for the purpose of control. Witches and Wizards work with familia spirits, Native doctors and false prophets work with them. Mediums work them. Soothsayers or forrune tellers work with them. Nochromansers work with them. So many atheists here are possessed by them. Satan wants to hide perpertually under disguizes. He has many forms and tactics of hiding. To some, he tells them hell is the most magnificient place, anyone who misses it, misses all. To some he tells them, theres nothing like hellfire, wen u die, you stay dead. To some, he tells them, there's nothing like death, it just a circle, you just keep coming back until you reach perfection. To some, he tells them there's nothing like satan, God or even spirits. All of these have the same motive, Keep man from thinking of meeting his creator. The Bible warns us agaisnt consulting Familia spirits. Household demons that knows everthing about the family tree. These are the demons working with those who believe in reincarnation. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Anas09: 5:12pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:I have dropped just two, but there are still many more. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by analice107: 5:50pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
TheSixthSense:Guy, i asked you a question, "Is satan all seeing?" Btw. Its okay. i won't build a ministry on running other of God's Children down. i leave everyone to Him who called them. To Him they stand or Fall. I retire before i say what i shouldn't say. 2 Likes |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Nobody: 6:09pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
No, Satan isn't all seeing and I understand your perspective on the issue. I've taken cues from your advice. God bless analice107: 1 Like |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Ranchhoddas: 6:25pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Anas09:How do you know these things? Do you have a degree in demonology or something? Why should anyone with a tinge of rationality believe this? |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Gboyee4fun(m): 6:57pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Anas09: I mentioned peter so that we can really know how the devil operate, all he do is to hijack things, remember Jesus have to pray for peter. now to Balaam read number 22 very well, he started with God, as a servant of God, especially verse 9.......he was hijacked.. that's why the scripture says we must always examine our self if we are still of the faith. shalom |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by analice107: 7:10pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: I told you i know what the Bible says about this. And, i read wide. Its really not important if anyone believes me or not. The most important fact is that, its true and satan and those who work with him knows what am saying. If you read "The Challenging Counterfeit" By Raphael Gasson, You'll understand. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Image123(m): 7:26pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Hehehehehehehehe. i've told you, just believe in Jesus Christ and stay on your lane jejely,lol. All these non-essentials are the things that produce millions of different denominations and views. And folks tend to hold on to these to judge others and not do anything much. |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by alolatee(m): 7:28pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
TheSixthSense: |
Re: In Response To The Thread- From Pastor To Atheist By Hardmirror by Nobody: 7:35pm On Sep 24, 2016 |
alolatee:Go ahead with your contribution, and be specific with the 'man of God' on the list |
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