namuguibe:
Likewise, people turn out in large numbers to watch a WWE wrestling match even though the outcome has already been predetermined

your analogy is warped bro. You can't compare entertainment with a religious activity. Accept it's a miracle and bless God rather than we being at loggerheads over its authenticity.


As for me, I'm happy for the healed woman

if anyone can do that,why don't you go to a foreign country and pull that kind of crowd that filled the stadium..........or you do your own in your own state......what you don't have or you can't do,don't criticise or argue.you only critisise or argue what you can do or have done. Am not T.B JOSHUA fan but I respect his anointing.

namuguibe:
Likewise, people turn out in large numbers to watch a WWE wrestling match even though the outcome has already been predetermined

I know adults who purchase the PPVs for $64 when they come on. Meanwhile, the actors choreograph all of their moves.

Sunglass20:
This is just one of the Many Miracles and people are already very angry about it. I beg make u no kill yourself if you come begin hear others o. JESUS IS ALIVE, WITH HIM, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE! IF YOU BELIEVE, YOU SHALL RECEIVE! THANK YOU JESUS.

who told u Jesus is using him for all these miracles?

Weah96:


I know adults who purchase the PPVs for $64 when they come on. Meanwhile, the actors choreograph all of their moves.

That is precisely correct. SCOAN = entertainment.

LieDetector:
your analogy is warped bro. You can't compare entertainment with a religious activity. Accept it's a miracle and bless God rather than we being at loggerheads over its authenticity.


As for me, I'm happy for the healed woman

They are exactly the same. The made up events that fools the willingly gullible is entertainment for the wise ...

I'm happy for the woman and the money she collected in playing her role.

Christianity and Fake Miracles - like BREAD AND BUTTER

Iseoluwani:


So no hospital to confirm the story na
church
Mitchew

See how im face be!

Even if it is said to be confirmed in the hospital, if you don't believe this as stated in the op nothing will make you to believe under the condition you requested.

Because you will still have some questions to ask; what if they staged it? What if the doctor lies? What if the medical evidences were faked with the doctors help? What if the hospital is a christian hospital?

Just wake up!

Lennycool:
Why where there no doctors to confirm that this woman had difficulty walking. Why so much deceit, if I truly believed I could heal the disabled and I knew there were atheist and other religious people that doubted me, would I not call in a group of respectable scientist to confirm my patient is sick before I heal him. Since this would be the only way to make sure it was real and not a trick. But in this case there is no doctors report to go on, only hearsay. Don't you think it is strange that no miracle has ever been conducted under the scrutiny of scientist. Nigerians open your eyes abeg.

Dear brother, calm your nerves. Believe it or not TB Joshua's healings are real. I had a colleague condemned for dead by doctors at First Rivers Medical in PH. He had liver failure, couldn't pee or stool. Swollen stomach n all. I was at the hospital to see where they used a tube to suck out fluid from his stomach. God used TB Joshua to heal him and restored his wealth much more than before. Don't fight what you don't understand. Investigate more....

namuguibe:
They are exactly the same. The made up events that fools the willingly gullible is entertainment for the wise ...

I'm happy for the woman and the money she collected in playing her role.

you have inalienable right to believe whatsoever you deem befitting

LieDetector:
you have inalienable right to believe whatsoever you deem befitting

Likewise, it is your choice to be fooled by the hilarious nonsensities of get-rich-by-tricks pastors

Emilokoiyawon:
Christianity and Fake Miracles - like BREAD AND BUTTER

Nope, do not judge the whole religion based on a few fake pastors OR do you want to rest of the world to consider you as a drug dealer because a couple of Nigerians were caught in Asia smuggling drugs??

namuguibe:
Likewise, it is your choice to be fooled by the hilarious nonsensities of get-rich-by-tricks pastors

I'm unfazed by your choice of words bro... However, there's no gainsaying atheism is characterized by hypocrisy. Don't tell me you haven't heard stories of witches and native doctors. You believed them hook, line and sinker but would question the works of God.

Hypocrisy has never been so obvious

LieDetector:
I'm unfazed by your choice of words bro... However, there's no gainsaying atheism is characterized by hypocrisy. Don't tell me you haven't heard stories of witches and native doctors. You believed them hook, line and sinker but would question the works of God.

Hypocrisy has never been so obvious

Point out to a single post of mine that shows my belief in witches and wizards.
TBJ is a glorified 'wizard' and I enjoy the entertainment he brings and even more the people that get fooled by it

promise10:

See how im face be!

Even if it is said to be confirmed in the hospital, if you don't believe this as stated in the op nothing will make you to believe under the condition you requested.

Because you will still have some questions to ask; what if they staged it? What if the doctor lies? What if the medical evidences were faked with the doctors help? What if the hospital is a christian hospital?

Just wake up!

Guy u miss road?
Must u comment on my post

The other day. A so called female pastor on Emmanuel tv said she delivered someone, she herself wey need deliverance, she said she z casting demon out by spraying perfume that was done by tb Joshua. All this them fake minister


And because you are spiritually dead you can't differentiate between real deliverance n a fake one.
I don't have time for you because you have been brainwashed washed by all this get delivered fake churches

PS: GO N READ THE TRUMPHANT CHURCH BY KENNETH E. HAGIN.

Lennycool:
Why where there no doctors to confirm that this woman had difficulty walking. Why so much deceit, if I truly believed I could heal the disabled and I knew there were atheist and other religious people that doubted me, would I not call in a group of respectable scientist to confirm my patient is sick before I heal him. Since this would be the only way to make sure it was real and not a trick. But in this case there is no doctors report to go on, only hearsay. Don't you think it is strange that no miracle has ever been conducted under the scrutiny of scientist. Nigerians open your eyes abeg.

Lenny you are wrong,no matter what you do,those who dont want to believe,will never believe. Jesus did so many miracles yet many refused to believe,he healed Lazarus who had died 4 days ago,many sympathizers were there and saw it but still wouldn't believe. John 12:37 " But though he had done so many miracles before them,yet they believed not on him".
Forget about the atheist,God doesn't need their approval, neither that of any man,He remains God.

Laye!

I want to see TB Joshua grow an amputated leg back to normal
or
Cure a certified HIV patient. Doctors will be on ground to confirm the persons status and retest the person after oga TB Joshua must have performed his magic.

Unless I can independently verify this to things. For now he is just a con artist

namuguibe:
Nope, do not judge the whole religion based on a few fake pastors OR do you want to rest of the world to consider you as a drug dealer because a couple of Nigerians were caught in Asia smuggling drugs??

[size=18pt]EVERY MIRACLE IS FAKE SINCE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MIRACLE[/size]

promise10:

Yea, of course! Anyone can do this. Even darwkins right? Hope to see you and all your atheists do this?

This is the ONLY way you can expose your foolishness!

You wish you could make it unreal, but that's not working. There is NOTHING you can do about it!!

As for spirituality of miracles, this is just the beginning. It is the simplest way of leading people out of the delusion of the impossibility of miracles.

Just go and enjoy your delusion!

Sorry bro!
I am not sure if you made a valid point.

This "miracle" can be performed by anyone including me and you. . I see no difference between this and a nollywood movie.

I want to see TB Joshua grow an amputated leg back to normal
or
Cure a certified HIV patient. Doctors will be on ground to confirm the persons status and retest the person after oga TB Joshua must have performed his magic.

Unless I can independently verify this two things. For now he is just a con artist

Emilokoiyawon:


EVERY MIRACLE IS FAKE SINCE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MIRACLE

Yes, that is a fair point. No religion can prove any of their claimed stories.

PS: I can read your post in regular sized fonts. Enlarging them is unnecessary.

promise10:

You guys can't cease amazing me in your delusion.

God is NOT bothered of your unbelief, your unbelief simply has NO effect on his reality. So, he is not allowing miracles to happen, so that you guys can see how deluded you are. He doesn't care about your belief system!


This only exposes your delusion the more! Even if he involves doctors in this, will that still make it clear enough for you people to believe? Because even if he involves a doctor, you guys still have some questions to ask to make you look bright to yourself.

What if he bribes the doctors? What if it was staged? What if she lied for jesus? What if she just wanted to deceive people? What if.....what if......and what if....? These are the kinds of questions most of you will still ask if doctors were involved.


The worst thing you can do is to wish that it is unreal, which is just a mere wishful thinking. So sit down and expect more testimonies.

You want me to believe in a miracle.? Let Joshua or any other self-proclaimed man of God grow an amputated leg to normal

What miracle can be more believable than this!

promise10:

Does that stop miracles from happening??

How does that make the billions, if not trillions of claims of miracles false?

It is undeniable that more than billion of people who have ever lived and are living has claimed miracles, then if there is nothing like miracles it means that the probability of the reality of miracles claimed by these billions of people is ZERO. Imagine that!

Billions of people testifying about miracle, and ALL OF THESE billions of these miracles claims are false. Imagine how it sounds!

Any video of any of the "billions of miracle" , of an amputated leg grow back to normal?? I will want to view

namuguibe:

Point out to a single post of mine that shows my belief in witches and wizards.
TBJ is a glorified 'wizard' and I enjoy the entertainment he brings and even more the people that get fooled by it

whether such post is documented on nairaland is less of my concerns. You do hear'em and you believe'em

Jesuobu:
Good one but it's God who heals not TB Joshua

God doesn't grow the leg of amputees

Lennycool:
Why where there no doctors to confirm that this woman had difficulty walking. Why so much deceit, if I truly believed I could heal the disabled and I knew there were atheist and other religious people that doubted me, would I not call in a group of respectable scientist to confirm my patient is sick before I heal him. Since this would be the only way to make sure it was real and not a trick. But in this case there is no doctors report to go on, only hearsay. Don't you think it is strange that no miracle has ever been conducted under the scrutiny of scientist. Nigerians open your eyes abeg.

how many doctors & scientists were there when Jesus healed d sick??
Replace ur mentality wit God's word & get understanding!!!!

LieDetector:
whether such post is documented on nairaland is less of my concerns. You do hear'em and you believe'em

Well, you are the one making that assertion about me without proof .... just like you believe TBJ's "miracle healing" without any proof ....

Bandeco:
God doesn't grow the leg of amputees

Den u really don't know God well enough!!! Get understanding!!!

namuguibe:
Yes, that is a fair point. No religion can prove any of their claimed stories.

PS: I can read your post in regular sized fonts. Enlarging them is unnecessary.

[size=38pt]NO VEX[/size]

namuguibe:
Well, you are the one making that assertion about me without proof .... just like you believe TBJ's "miracle healing" without any proof ....

lolz. Is that your best shot at covering up?

SeeUrLife:


Den u really don't know God well enough!!!
Get understanding!!!

True!

Your god has been in hiding since man created him.

Anywonder why ur god require you (man) to defend and assert his existence

Bandeco:

God doesn't grow the leg of amputees

Yeah but He makes those even without limb(i.e leg and hand) to prosper. For example, Nick Vujicic doesn't have leg and hand but does things that even those with limbs can't do.

Remember how our full able men went to the Olympics but could only bring home a bronze but our disabled contegents went to the paralympics and brought home eight gold. That's to tell you there is ability in every disability and everyone is special in the sight of God, leg or no leg.

Jesuobu:
Yeah but He makes those even without limb(i.e leg and hand) to prosper. For example, Nick Vujicic doesn't have leg and hand but does things that even those with limbs can't do.

Remember how our full able men went to the Olympics but could only bring home a bronze but our disabled contegents went to the paralympics and brought home eight gold. That's to tell you there is ability in every disability and everyone is special in the sight of God, leg or no leg.

You missed the point of discussion

But,

I am glad u agree God doesn't/can't grow the leg of amputees. Hence God is limited, I can conclusively say he doesn't perform any miracle