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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:02pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: Read their style of play before arguing. It is in black and white. Valencia from time is a possessive side. Maybe you think result is style of play. Look at the image below before arguing.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:04pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
tbaba1234: Thank you again. If Balogun is in Arsenal his stats will shoot up. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:05pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
forgiveness:LOL. Your own is to invite anybody to any game. Guy, we can only invite 23 players per time. And it's not appropriate to invite a lot of green horns for crucial qualifying games. That said, who are they and why should they be invited? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:47pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Forget about semantics. Am sure you never saw them play last season nor have you watched them this season. Their stats this season is just 51%.. It was even worse last season. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:59pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:You can take a look at Shmidt's philosophy and tell me if hes the Sam aladyce or Pulis route one football coach. I said earlier, his philosophy is based around that of Tuchel and Klopp. If Leon balogoun is posting 75%pass completion for a high pressing team like Mainz, am sorry he's not that good on the ball. Period.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:29pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: I said, you are prolonging a settle issue. The coach Philosophy does not change the VERY WEAK AT KEEPING POSSESSION AND LONG BALL STYLE OF PLAY.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:30pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: Or you do not understand the very weak at keeping possession. If he likes, let him have Van Gaal's possession philosophy in his head. Mainz are weak at keeping possession. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 8:55pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
Check out this guy. Theophilus Solomon www.vimeo.com/184000704/5d69609811. And this guy Tammy Abraham www.m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=l4HpogIb07A |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:03pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: Hmm! I got ya point. I think CAF has to do some adjustments. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:24pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Troost Ekong stats pulls in at 79% for a weak passing side in Norway. Why is Leon Beckenbauer's statistics at 75% for a "weak passing" Mainz team coached by Shmidt? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:33pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: You are fund of making remarks like if I made them. To show how out of touch you are, someone on this thread was so impressed with Leon Balogun's performance. He said Balogun was better than John Stones and I disagreed, saying John Stones Is Better. If I feel John Stones who is not as good as a lot of ball playing defenders, is better than Balogun, how will I rate him as Beckenbauer. You are out of touch with the whole debate. Let me remind you, if you have forgotten. The debate was should Rohr drop Balogun for Omeruo. Where you got Beckenbauer from remains a mystery. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:34pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: Your obsession is baffling. Please, look at the image below.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:35pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
Icon4s:Rangers is the Beginning and the end for me. Rangers is the club of my life. Whenever I watch Rangers play am filled with passion and out of the world emotions. What Rangers all white Jersey means alot to me. Its more than just a Jersey. I believe you understand what I mean. I died a little when we were denied the league diadem by Kano pillars and the Nff board room conspiracy some seasons back. I frankly don't know how to celebrate this victory. I feel. Like somersaulting from here to Enugu. Victory is sweet! Up Rangers! Up Rangers! Up Rangers! Up Rangers! 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:45pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Look, I am always chuffed to bits whenever you attached ballplaying skills when talking about Leon Balogoun. I decided I will have a go at you today because I know he's not so good on the ball. Like I've said earlier, Leon is good at some aspects defending like ariel duels won, he's an OK tackler too. However, his ball playing abilities and passing accuracy is a limitation. Omeruo has a higher Celine to Leon if only he can improve on his concentration levels. At a tender age, he was already playing like a veteran, holding the hands of Yobo which should be the other way round enroute to the Afcon triumph. Playing alongside Egwuekwe probably destroyed his confidence but generally if he reaches his potential, he could be a monster for Super eagles. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:48pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80:am so happy for Rangers not just for winning the league bt their style of play and the passion from their fan. It was even trending on twitter, sad the club I support Heartland might just get relegated |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:53pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Arsenal scouting software called StatDna, won't pick him up as his passing stats don't measure up to the standard set by the club. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:54pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: I know you wanted to just have a go, instead of a genuine obsession. If not, you would easily see that a defender playing in a team resorting to long balls can not have a high pass completion rate. You can try your best to have a go. At the end, Rohr drilled the team on ball playing and selected Balogun to defend. Balogun played in a high line defence and excelled. Whether it worries you that I pointed it out, does not change anything. Balogun's ball playing in that game was brilliant. Whether you like it or not. I never called him Beckenbauer. I already said Stones was better. You can not use the long ball game of Mainz to judge if he is a good ball playing defender. You should be able to watch the game against Tanzania and judge. I pointed out the ball playing defenders. I have shown you that Rohr drilled them on ball playing. I have showed you Balogun, Troost-Ekong and Awaziem excelled. So you can keep reading articles and stats to have a go at me. That one is up to you. As I said, you are prolonging a finished debate. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:56pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: Do you need a scouting software to tell you that Balogun will have a better passing rate in a more possessive team? Na wa. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:56pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
zicky:Heartland's season has been very very poor. I don't understand what happened to Heartland. It feels like yesterday the club got to the finals of Caf champions league. Going on relegation after such a feat under 6years is atrocious. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:00pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:He should at least be pulling above average stats for a ball playing team to notice him. Arsenal spent millions of dollars purchasing the American data company StatDna to help their scouting system. If you had understanding how scouting players work, you will understand. Abi you think arsenal will spend millions to collate dat so just for fancy? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:07pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: That one is you arguing with yourself. Making another statement that is totally off the point. You are just deviating to grasp on. The debate ended a long time ago. Just like in the Tanzania game, Balogun looked a baller. In a more possessive side, he will pull better stats simple. You can keep arguing but the picture below showed your point was off. I did not say Arsenal should sign Balogun. Please comprehend. If Balogun is in a team like Arsenal, his stats will be better. That does not mean Arsenal buy Balogun. Enough of the obsessive post and go back to celebrating Rangers.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:12pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Mumuni Alao and Paul Ogazi will be comfortable playing a Tanzanian team that applied little or no pressure. I will rather judge him while playing against teams that willtput him under pressure. Playing a high line defensive system is not new to him because Martin Shmidt favours a high pressing system. If you watched mainz pelt Liverpool 4:0 in preseason you will appreciate they aren't a long ball Tony Pulis team like you believe. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:20pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:There was never an argument in the first place. In a non ball playing side, Troost averages 79%, in another non ball playing side, Leon averages 75%. If anything is clear, it is that Leon's not as comfortable on the ball as you think. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:47pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: How do you know what I think? Did I say Leon is more comfortable than Troost-Ekong? As I said, leave the obsessive post and making up things. If you watch the Tanzanian game, you will see that Troost-Ekong is better on the ball than Leon. So how the hell do you know how I think? Did you not see when I wrote that Stones Is better? I rate Troost-Ekong higher than him. So how do you know how I think. The statement was Omeruo and Balogun. Some said drop Balogun. I said Balogun is better on the ball. Then you ran to bring Mustafi. LOL. The obsession is too much. Leave Mata for Mourinho. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:54pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
goldfish80: Now you know non ball playing side. The same person that tried to make Mainz as a ball playing team. Compare the ball possession strength of Mainz and Haugesund where Ekong plays. In the pictures below, you will see that Ekong's team is better at keeping possession than Balogun's team. So there is a chance Ekong will pose better stats. So please, rest.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:13pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
forgiveness:Both talented but too young. Besides, Asoro has already played for the Swedish u21. It'll be very difficult to get him to play for us. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:22pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
Icon4s: You mean Iwobi the foreign breed is not one of my favourite player? You mean Ekong the foreign grown? Do you you mean Simon Moses? Are you not the one who claimed English players are below average? But you are now celebrating Iwobi progress when you termed him average (because he is English breed). I think those are one of my favourite players whom I have been advocating for since last year. E pain am! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:25pm On Sep 25, 2016 |
edi287: There is no age limit in football once you are good enough to play with the big boys. Let us ask him first before we conclude. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:16am On Sep 26, 2016 |
goldfish80: Carl jenkinson was having passing percentages of 86% at Arsenal. In West ham, he is just at 74%. Same player. That is why, i say it is not a good measure. Arsenal signed Mustafi and his pass percentage was less than 80%. At the end of the season, it is likely to be in the high 80s or 90s. Same player. For me, the important stats for defenders is how they deal with aerial duels, interceptions, tackle etc... 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:00am On Sep 26, 2016 |
forgiveness: Ta! you never for one day advocated for the inclusion of Iwobi, Ekong or Simon. See the list of players you have been clamouring for: Dominic Solanke, Abdul Ajagun, Raheem Lawal,Tiago Ilori, Moses Odubajo, Nurudeen Orelesi, Sadiq Umar, Nura Abdulahi, Olanrewaju Kayode, Juwon Oshaniwa, Rabiu Ibrahim, Kenedy Otigba, Brain Idowu and recently Joel Asorock and Joshua Majekfashek . Abi I lie? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:00am On Sep 26, 2016 |
goldfish80: Did you watch Mainz last two matches before the last match to begin with? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:37am On Sep 26, 2016 |
Icon4s: Who is known for advocating for foreign breed and inform players here? Na me and one other guy na. But who is the assailant against foreign breed? Na you na. Sir, liars will go to.... complete am. My records are there for all to see.
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