Where were all of you including Daura and Kyari before the election ? Those that cooked this food are being deprived of the food, not only the food but the entire pot to prevent them from further cooking. "I WONDER WHY THE CLERICUZIO DECIDED THAT THE NUMBER ONE SOLDIER BECAME A DANGER TO THEM"

I wonder if this SW leader is BAT, anyway I no call name sha, all I said is BAT

Where were all of you including Daura and Kyari before the election ? Those that cooked this food are being deprived of the food, not only the food but the entire pot to prevent them from further cooking. "I WONDER WHY THE CLERICUZIO DECIDED THAT THE NUMBER ONE SOLDIER BECAME A DANGER TO THEM"

TonyeBarcanista:
I am not surprised by the posture of the Abuja factional APC. The envy some people have for Tinubu within a party he worked and sweated to build is legendary. From the moment James Faleke was schemed out, I knew that some people who feel threatened by BAT were determined to cut him to "size". But the BAT I know has fought lots of familiar battle, and he shall triumph.

My prayer is for him to join forces with us to punish APC.in 2019

you're just talking like a child. Time to grow up

lordyugo:


incase u didnt get d memo we dnt gv 2 f"&:$ks bout politics but money and family.
u should be focused more on d battle brewing bw afonjas and ugwu pple but we all knw hw its goin to end

What's the meaning of the gibberish above? Sorry, I cant waste my time on a yaba left patient. Get well soon.

[quote author=TonyeBarcanista post=49678990]Well politics is about alignment and realignment of forces per time. Nothing is permanent[/quote

Bro please tell me you're kidding with this tinubu de camping to PDP..?

Because Pdp I know don't and will never have space to accommodate him..if he's bringing in trillion of dollars and the entire west.
You should know that by now.

Not politics issue..tinubu himself won't even dare himself on that.

They are of cos refering to jagbanjatis tinubu....afonja will never ever learn.


Now listen up,When i sing and rap and chant and say "ZOMBIE O ZOMBIE" all afonjas in the house shud helep me and reply "ZOMBIE O ZOMBIE".

Oya aWAN ATU ATIRI..ZOMBIE O ZOMBIE....

A man thought he has found a perfect mugu on whose back he'll access the mountain rock vault but unknowingly he's the maga on whose head the other dude stands to see the valley clearly from the rock for picks of delicious meals whilst the crumbs droppings ain't enough to satisfy his large cravings hence the wahala due to their conflicting interests.

In saner climes both ought to be permanent visitors to ******** courtesy of magu and a just judicial system.

TonyeBarcanista:
Bro, let's be honest!

Buhari is threading the path of Jonathan who abandoned Obj that brought him to power and instead aligned with Edwin Clark and other appointees that had no real political clout. At the end, Obj joined forces with powerhouses like BAT in APC to kick him out of power.

Buhari is threading same path, his sycophants see Tinubu as a "common foe", the best for Jagaban is to switch over to PDP where he will be given his due place and help bring down the government in 2019 as well as punishing his haters especially in his SW. BAT can't cope with a new party that will make him contend with the forces in PDP and APC, his continuous stay in APC will also cause more embarrassment.

He gotta join forces with us.WE NEED HIM

Tony you need tinubu..not Pdp.
PDP don't and will never need Tinubu or his dollars..
Don't you get it?
What's is he bringing to the table..
Tinubu is about being spend..aint you reading the political events in the country.
Or the body language of the north..even in the west..which is his base.

So na Tinubu Una dey fear to call by name? A beg make the eating of your flesh start.

Oga, this your comment makes me laugh because it shows that you are still a learner when it comes to Nigerian politics. While Tinubu owns an entire region, others struggle to have a firm grip over their single state.

Atiku and Saraki will be the last to realign with Buhari camp against 2019 elections. Forget the present issues or squabbles in APC today, before end of 2017, you will be surprised at how Atiku/Saraki would have closed ranks with Tinubu's camp to secure his support for their political ambition.

Hate it or like it, Tinubu's support for any candidate in 2019 elections will be the winning formula. Persecute or hate Tinubu to your peril.

kahal29:
Ghen Ghen..... The war has started and I don't know who will win at end of the day but what I know for sure is that there is going to be a realignment forces. I see Buhari, Atiku, Saraki, Oyegun camps in APC uniting against Tinubu's camp and how that will play out... .. Only time will tell. My fear for Tinubu is that I don't know whether he gave this recent media onslaught against Oyegun a deep thought. Secondly I don't even know who and who is in his camp presently and finally, this is Abuja/federal politics and not Lagos. These people have beaten him in the National Assembly tussle and if care is not taken they may repeat it again.

TonyeBarcanista:
Bro, let's be honest!

Buhari is threading the path of Jonathan who abandoned Obj that brought him to power and instead aligned with Edwin Clark and other appointees that had no real political clout. At the end, Obj joined forces with powerhouses like BAT in APC to kick him out of power.

Buhari is threading same path, his sycophants see Tinubu as a "common foe", the best for Jagaban is to switch over to PDP where he will be given his due place and help bring down the government in 2019 as well as punishing his haters especially in his SW. BAT can't cope with a new party that will make him contend with the forces in PDP and APC, his continuous stay in APC will also cause more embarrassment.

He gotta join forces with us.WE NEED HIM

and you think jagaban will want to continue to be used and dumped, he was dumped by GEJ after 2011 elections and almost being dumped again after 2015 elections. You guys just want him for elections in 2019 and then dump him again as usual period.

It just shows that Tinubu looks better than most Nigerian politicians as they look too lazy to navigate their way thru after all. All those turning against Tinubu now were all beneficiaries of his platform including PMB and Oyegun, such is life anyway.

Goke7:


and you think jagaban will want to continue to be used and dumped, he was dumped by GEJ after 2011 elections and almost being dumped again after 2015 elections. You guys just want him for elections in 2019 and then dump him again as usual period.

It just shows that Tinubu looks better than most Nigerian politicians as they look too lazy to navigate their way thru after all. All those turning against Tinubu now were all beneficiaries of his platform including PMB and Oyegun, such is life anyway.

That's the mistake most people make. There is betrayal in politics and that is a fact. For instance see Kwankwaso Vs Ganduje, Wike Vs Amaechi, SAS Vs Shetimma, Obj Vs Jonathan etc. What remains is that politicians would always align and realign to maintain their political relevance. There is nothing like use and dump.

You cited 2011 but was Tinubu a PDP MAN then? he allegedly had an agreement and can he come out to say GEJ didn't keep his own part of the bargain? THINK!

BAT should move his structure to the Umbrella and watzh how he would be revered by all.

ificatchmodeh:


Tony you need tinubu..not Pdp.
PDP don't and will never need Tinubu or his dollars..
Don't you get it?
What's is he bringing to the table..
Tinubu is about being spend..aint you reading the political events in the country.
Or the body language of the north..even in the west..which is his base.

Politics is beyond hate and emotional sentiment. No politician is an enemy to the other and no one is a friend. It is a out interest and alignment where interest appears to favor those involved. Tinubu is a material PDP need and Tonye acknowledged.

TonyeBarcanista:
Politics is beyond hate and emotional sentiment. No politician is an enemy to the other and no one is a friend. It is a out interest and alignment where interest appears to favor those involved. Tinubu is a material PDP need and Tonye acknowledged.

Ok o
Methink is not in the best interest of PDP..but your opinion tho.
Goodmorning.

ificatchmodeh:


Ok o
Methink is not in the best interest of PDP..but your opinion tho.
Goodmorning.

Seriously bro, aTinubu in PDP would translate to having SW states of Lagos and Osun in addition to Ondo and Ekiti. Oyo and Ogun would fall inline in2019. This will also increase PDP chance of winning SW landslide in the Presidential election as well as parts of NC where Tinubu enjoys popularity like Benue state.

I wouldn't mind Tinubu to nominate ALL ministers from SW States of Lagos, Osun and Oyo as long as they are performers.

This will also put a break on some Northern grip of the political space.

Hhundredhundred:


What's the meaning of the gibberish above? Sorry, I cant waste my time on a yaba left patient. Get well soon.

looool do pple still use dat "yaba left patient " line wen they hv notn constructive to say. Use ur deductive reasoning am sure ul understand d "gibberish"

TonyeBarcanista:

That's the mistake most people make. There is betrayal in politics and that is a fact. For instance see Kwankwaso Vs Ganduje, Wike Vs Amaechi, SAS Vs Shetimma, Obj Vs Jonathan etc. What remains is that politicians would always align and realign to maintain their political relevance. There is nothing like use and dump.

You cited 2011 but was Tinubu a PDP MAN then? he allegedly had an agreement and can he come out to say GEJ didn't keep his own part of the bargain? THINK!

BAT should move his structure to the Umbrella and watzh how he would be revered by all.

oga pdp should just try and move on and stop trying to woo a man their followers especially from the SE and SS detest and see as the major reason for loosing power in 2015. Even what you are saying is beginning to offend some of your pdp people sir, dem no like this your latest gist at all.

dat moment wen afonja zombies re confused. do we support tinubu. should we say baba.

sai tinubaba

FastShipping:
Shots fired. Buhari is going the way of Jonathan. He's low in approval rating and trying to start a fight that is not necessary. It is too early for him to fight Tinubu. Buhari can't win the media war against Tinubu. Such fight should wait till he wins a second term in office. I guess he's only serving 4yrs in office.

The likes of Dele Momodu and Sahara Reporters have begun to write articles against Buhari for the reason that Tinubu has given them the green light to destroy Buhari's government. Buhari should thread carefully and learn how Obasanjo navigated the murky water when he had problem with Atiku.

I now agree with those who said Buhari is not smart. The man seems unintelligent.

he is now unintelligent because he clipped tinubu?

StepTwo:


oga, are you sure you are not commenting on the wrong thread? i still dont see where or how it is stated that Buhari is in anyway associated with this press release.

we all kno the fight is between tinubu and duara. tinubu is fighting for political relevance.

TonyeBarcanista:
Seriously bro, aTinubu in PDP would translate to having SW states of Lagos and Osun in addition to Ondo and Ekiti. Oyo and Ogun would fall inline in2019. This will also increase PDP chance of winning SW landslide in the Presidential election as well as parts of NC where Tinubu enjoys popularity like Benue state.

I wouldn't mind Tinubu to nominate ALL ministers from SW States of Lagos, Osun and Oyo as long as they are performers.

This will also put a break on some Northern grip of the political space.

Very nice idea..if lots of interest will be drop to accommodate him.which as it stand non is ready to let go.

You know au "we fought"hard to keep the north politically equal with the south. Obj used all necessary trick to achieve that..even tho jonathan felt at atime he could do it alone.baba was not really happy..the rest is history.
We know implication of a strong northerner ascending the presidency..
Politics is in their blood and they will within a short period gain all lost ground,dominate and rule..aint hard.
Now this men have seized power and the understand the principle of division in the south..and are ready to sacrifices anybody and win anybody for that purpose.

To them lagos is the most important second to ogun state.cos of their interest. they won't mind throwing Tinubu under the bus and raising another tinubu that will protect their interest. They've done it before and it won't be difficult now.they made him.and ve been His backbone.

If tinubu decamps..i can assure you..he will end up in jail..no sentiments.

Ok PDP best options is a southern vice.anywhere from the south..and a strong willed from the north.
Buhari might not be coming 2019 and even if his popularity is on the down run.
A strong north will divide his based and aunited south will win the vote.

Lagos..if Apc should loose. after the elections. Lagos will be decided..plus tinubu minus him..

They are already tightening the loop round him..
Guess why his men are screaming..tho he has loyalties..
Honestly from the position of things going on..me" thinks the north don't really need him..they need the south south more.

Minding the fact that the north don't deal on sentiments like the south..

Goke7:


oga pdp should just try and move on and stop trying to woo a man their followers especially from the SE and SS detest and see as the major reason for loosing power in 2015. Even what you are saying is beginning to offend some of your pdp people sir, dem no like this your latest gist at all.

Sir, FFK was the most HATED Yoruba man from the SW by the SE people just 2-3years ago, but just two years after and onward he became a darling and one of the most loved along with Fayose.

I bet you the story will change should BAT move to PDP and their elite praises him to high heavens. This is politics bro....

BTW the SS hate no Tinubu.

ificatchmodeh:


There is no grave consequence when dealing with hausa/fulani on issue of politics..
They control the political system of nigeria..tinubu was able to succeed in 2002/2007 cos he was dealing with a yourba man..baba.
He wouldn't have dare it with a hausa fulani president..
Awolowo made this same mistake..
Abiola too...Baba Obj during his first tenure knew the consequences of any misactions ..
And when he did Abacha wasn't smiling..
Was God and luck that brought him in 99.and he maintained till 03 when he knew he gat nothing to loose..
See my friend..Tinubu should be very careful...
Nigeria politics is not lagos..the north hate is when you contend leadership with them.
Forget media..
Tinubu was able to succeed against jonathan because the north was desperate for power..now they've gotten. The power..
Question is what is the relevance of tinubu in nigeria..
[b]The south is divided..is to the advantages of the north
Buhari has nothing to loose if tinubu is out..
You guys help them to attain power..but you guys can never ever keep them there..[/b]
Plus tinubu minus tinubu..the north will sail.
Saraki case should have been an eye opener.
Goodmorning.

The fact that the South is divided today does not mean it will stay divided perpetually. Remember the division you are talking about in the South was orchestrated by GEJ when he chose to sideline key political figures from the zone despite the fact that they were responsible to his ascension of the throne? Also remember that the SW has been the only region keeping this country together. If today the SW decides to go back to her tent, you can be sure the SE will only clap hands and hasten back home.
The key loosers will be those of us from Middle belt without coherent association and of course the Hassan FULANIS.
If PMB is serious about rebuilding this country, he should address the noise of corruption that is oozing out from his inner chamber. Allow Abba Kyari and Dairy face EFCC and come clean and this will lend credence to his anti corruption fight. He should demonstrate to us for once that what PDP is saying about the anti corruption fight to be one sided is not true and submitting his staff for probe.
Nigerian should eschew tribal and political sentiments and let's fight corruption collectively before its too late.

[Well say my dear ,you have nail it .quote author=middlebelter post=49682751]

The fact that the South is divided today does not mean it will stay divided perpetually. Remember the division you are talking about in the South was orchestrated by GEJ when he chose to sideline key political figures from the zone despite the fact that they were responsible to his ascension of the throne? Also remember that the SW has been the only region keeping this country together. If today the SW decides to go back to her tent, you can be sure the SE will only clap hands and hasten back home.
The key loosers will be those of us from Middle belt without coherent association and of course the Hassan FULANIS.
If PMB is serious about rebuilding this country, he should address the noise of corruption that is oozing out from his inner chamber. Allow Abba Kyari and Dairy face EFCC and come clean and this will lend credence to his anti corruption fight. He should demonstrate to us for once that what PDP is saying about the anti corruption fight to be one sided is not true and submitting his staff for probe.
Nigerian should eschew tribal and political sentiments and let's fight corruption collectively before its too late. [/quote]

TonyeBarcanista:
Seriously bro, aTinubu in PDP would translate to having SW states of Lagos and Osun in addition to Ondo and Ekiti. Oyo and Ogun would fall inline in2019. This will also increase PDP chance of winning SW landslide in the Presidential election as well as parts of NC where Tinubu enjoys popularity like Benue state.

I wouldn't mind Tinubu to nominate ALL ministers from SW States of Lagos, Osun and Oyo as long as they are performers.

This will also put a break on some Northern grip of the political space.

Seems you really well informed about Tinubu's popularity in Benue State ..

Ah Dey suspect you Tonye.

It's true because George Akume the king of Benue is always on Tinubu's side

[Bro please wake up if you are still sleeping, so you never know politicians are like prostitude who only look for who to patronised them.

Jonathan was Tinubu's best option but hate colored his thought process. Now he will reap the benefits of sleeping in bed with hostile yet cunning snakes!

middlebelter:


The fact that the South is divided today does not mean it will stay divided perpetually. Remember the division you are talking about in the South was orchestrated by GEJ when he chose to sideline key political figures from the zone despite the fact that they were responsible to his ascension of the throne? Also remember that the SW has been the only region keeping this country together. If today the SW decides to go back to her tent, you can be sure the SE will only clap hands and hasten back home.
The key loosers will be those of us from Middle belt without coherent association and of course the Hassan FULANIS.
If PMB is serious about rebuilding this country, he should address the noise of corruption that is oozing out from his inner chamber. Allow Abba Kyari and Dairy face EFCC and come clean and this will lend credence to his anti corruption fight. He should demonstrate to us for once that what PDP is saying about the anti corruption fight to be one sided is not true and submitting his staff for probe.
Nigerian should eschew tribal and political sentiments and let's fight corruption collectively before its too late.

My friend. South is deeply divided right from time..didnt start with jonathan and won't end with jonah..jonah made it obvious and realign the south south and south south east while the. West choose a different part,whichto them was a better offer.

The west is not what's keeping nigeria bro..they've been in opposition much longer than any region..shouted regionalism and true federalism...so they on their own have agitated.
What's keeping nigeria is the black crude..every regiion has people with great interest and won't want the status to be altered. If the crude dries up today..bet you every region will take a walk.with. Qualms.

Apc as a party is corrupt..very corrupt..forget the fight about corruption.from the first family...
Those shouting Abba kyarin,Dairy,..are persons that has lost out or loosing from the present event in the party..they are only throwing it up to challenge the president's integrity..kind of blackmail.won't be. Surprise if tomorrow is Aisha buhari.

So what happens to tinube,ameachi,fash,fayemi,akande,Oyinlola.atiku..
Corruption matters should start from them..if those truly mean..what they want
Funny enough buhari ain't listening to them..
Burnstashi and dambazzau..is an example
Buhari knows what they're up to and he just don't care.

TonyeBarcanista:
Sir, FFK was the most HATED Yoruba man from the SW by the SE people just 2-3years ago, but just two years after and onward he became a darling and one of the most loved along with Fayose.

I bet you the story will change should BAT move to PDP and their elite praises him to high heavens. This is politics bro....

BTW the SS hate no Tinubu.

oga tinubu i know will rather form his own party than teaming up with the torn umbrella. The same thing he did, ditching AD to form AC which later become ACN and finally to APC.

Tinubu is not like folks like atiku and ffk that jumps from one party to another.

Businessideas:

Which mistake? You are clearly not serious and not a Yoruba . You will soon see the grave consequences if something is not quickly done. Unlike those fighting Tinubu,he has the experience,human and material resources to single-handedly kill a national party.It was things like this that made him kill a national party, AD and built a new one ,AC, from the scratch.
The political destiny of the west has always been in their own hands.

And what stops Buhari from building his own political structures in the West which by the way he is already doing with the best materials APC west has or should I say had; and then waiting at the last moment to ambush Tinubu when he wants to strike back. I am dead sure the likes of Fashola will have passed on the 'Tinubu Files' and they will be in an unplugged microwave oven waiting.....

My friend, in politics you are a toddler. This is a ex-president you guys are toying, an ex-civil war veteran and general, an ex-coupist and a blue blooded fulani man. He is no Jonathan and will not go against his will a second time. There is a reason he has been kept out of leadership all these years. Tinubu gambled and lost by backing him then like a typical novice punter throws more cards away to recover and keeps getting it wrong.

It was a big, big, big mistake not to accede the party leadership to Buhari and now a bigger one to undermine him. Who is Tinubu going to use to 'replace' Buhari when all 2015 candidates are compromised or under investigation.

Guy. Buhari holds all the aces now and is proving to be as impermeable as a crocodile in water. I've said he doesn't respond to inhouse corruption. Tinubu should have read his history. His snipers have now fired the first shot and given themselves away. Oh boy just wait for the response in time.

Businessideas:

My defense is on principle not the person ,Tinubu,you hate.
It is a personal value system.Today it is Tinubu, tomorrow it could be someone else.
Tinubu didn't need me in 1999,2003,2007 and now in 2016,he still doesn't need me to tackle his political opponents like he did in previous years

Tinubu wins elections solely by;

1) Appealing to ethnic sentiments of folks like YOU including YOU...

2)Using gangsterism and blackmail to intimidate opponents and perceived obstacles...

3)Money to corrupt officers...

So he will always win with folks like you still prevalent in our system...to whom truth is subjective...