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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:23am On Sep 26, 2016 |
Nihilist: Maybe the Tactics are faulty because there are no real personnel to execute the tactics. Your combination of Kante - Oscar - Fabregas maybe too offensive and the work load will be too much for Kante. The 3rd goal on Saturday for Example. Everyone was out of position except Kante and he got turned like hot amala. Even the 2nd goal. Kante was coming to help Fabregas after Fabregas had become "Aja Arin." And Kante slipped again. You remember our game against Real Madrid during Pre season, Oscar partnered Kante/Matic (Can't remember), and some of us complained here that why would Oscar patner a 4, but it was pre season, so no problem. So the question now is in a 4-3-3 formation, won't Oscar sleep off and füück Kante up when we are caught on the counter.? Fabregas = Creator. Oscar = Runner. Kante = Destroyer.. Why can't we think of.? Fab = Creator. Kante = Runner. Luiz = Destroyer. And we can even draft Chalobah, if he continues to impress. I don't trust Matic and I don't trust Oscar.. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 11:26am On Sep 26, 2016 |
bigkesh: Locking up shop, that 11 will work. Offensively, apart from counter-attacking system, that is disaster waiting to happen. The only thing I blame Conte for is sticking with this 4-3-3. If he's going to fail, I will prefer he does so, doing what he knows how to do. I think we should be inventive and risk a 3-5-2 instead. Zouma Terry Azpili/Luiz Kante Chalobah Moses Fab Hazard Mitchy Costa |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:33am On Sep 26, 2016 |
Batshuayi and Costa patnership for 90 minutes will be cool. They gonna give any defence a lot of problems.. One of the several times, you would appreciate Ancelotti's time at Chelsea. 4 - Diamond - 2. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:55am On Sep 26, 2016 |
Happy Birthday to Ballack.. Within 6 Years, we went from Ballack - Lampard patnership to Matic - Oscar Partnership. Hmmm. How time flies. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:12pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo: Luiz as DM makes sense. He's fast, he's got good technique and can pass/drive the ball from deep. When Terry and Zouma come back, this your configuration could be a good combo. I still feel Oscar offers a good mix of offensive and defensive skills, especially when compared to defensive specialists like Kante and Matic....but yeah that Combo sounds good. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:14pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo: Chai I just remembered Mr Diamond. Damnnnnnn.... Where has the fvcking time gone? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 12:15pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
lalaboi:Let me assume you are serious M only saying Baker is better than the useless Oscar and Matic and even though he is not close to fabregas he is way better defensively If you recall correctly I have always been part of the 4-4-2 gang....I think I had a discussion with Griffon why 4-4-2 suits us better And yes our youth is better than the rubbish we have in the first team |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 12:19pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo:There is a difference between Lampard-Ballack-Essien-Mikel diamond and Hazard-Fabregas-Kante-Moses diamond Diamond don't usually fit wingers I remember Carlo even had to change to 4-3-3 Lamp-Ballack-Essien Anelka-Drogba-Malouda |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 12:24pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo:I remember the Second leg against PSG and the game at Etihad,Both times Luis looked like the best DM ever.....But Zouma won't come back and just return to being Zouma,Playing Luiz has a DM in front of Cahil makes no sense when you could just Bench Cahill and fit in Chalobah If we have a confirm defence no reason not to play him as a DM |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 12:26pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
nateevs:Best set up for now.....But we both know Hazard can't/won't track back |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 12:27pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
bigkesh: I am not suggesting we play 4 -Diamond -2 with this set of players o.. We can't even try it with Kante, Oscar, Matic and Fabregas. I was just remembering how we played then. And Yes The diamond formation don't accomodate Wing players. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 12:30pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
bigkesh: Thank you very much. In the 3-5-2 formation, are we making use of a Wing back? If Yes, can Hazard play at that position. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 12:33pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo:Na KDB and Salah pain me pass.... When I said Willian is a useless somebody and should be sold months back they all came at me... How can a human being have 11A in 101apps This is a guy who took over 60% of our set pieces over that period Willian has 2 great chances to pull one back when it was 2-0 but the guy better than musonda and Moses threw it all away I don't just understand |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 12:37pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo:Barca replaced Abidal,Alaves,Messi,Xavi,Eto and henry nicely Bayern got another Robbery in Coman and Douglas We can't even replace Kalou Emenalo was appointed in 2010,that was the last time we had a good squad |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 12:41pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
bigkesh: Emenalo was born in Aba na. The guy is Aba made, I swear. Ordinary Kalou, we can't replace. Why did we buy Willian in the 1st place? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:59pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo: I dont know if you know that Jose reportedly convinced Abramovich directly to call the owner of Anzhi directly on deadline day to hijack Willians move to spurs. Or if you knlw that Jose tried to sign Willian for Manyoo this summer. When all fails, you need to blame Emenalo for signing a player you don't like. Im with you all the way bro. This morning, I was almost run down by an okada in front of my office. I blame Emenalo naturally. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 1:04pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo:Ancelloti is a really good coach... Gone are the days we used to have Belleti,Kalou,Alex,Bertrand and Josh Mcheran (can't even remember the name). .Thats a perfect bench there Then the same Roman that can't fire Emenalo fired him and we started hiring Scolari and the AVBs and with them came players like Mata,Oscar,Ramirez,Luiz and co Our XI under Ancelotti ehn.....Defenders that don't actually defend and equally good on the ball,we are talking about Alex,Terry,Cole,Belleti Midfielder that do their jobs effectively, no ninnies, no useless dribbles, no show offs..... Tackles,pass,mark and score,No time And forwards that don't waste time,either cross or shoot... We didn't played tiki taka and we didn't have players with very very good techniques but we score A LOT... The whole team na goals,The Belleti probably has more goals than Willian in less apps Ball is about goals jare...Right now if the chance doesn't fall to Costa then we are screwed, back then na only Cole no fit score, the chance can fall to anybody else and I wouldn't care Ballack and Lampard were the best in their style just like Xavi and Iniesta were the best in theirs,We held them for 180 mins with malouda and Anelka on the wings when Barca had Messi and Henry Roman should better pack his money and spend,I need that midfield again...apart from Hamsik,KDB,Nainggolan and koke,I can't think of those kinda CMs in football right now 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:06pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
lalaboi: Shey I no be god? Una suppose erect temple dey worship me. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:08pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Sharrap! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 1:11pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Nihilist: Lol. Don't get me wrong. Emenalo didn't sign Willian. Every one knows that. Jose signed Willy and Eto'o. But most players, Emenalo signs them for Us. Example is with Papy Djiboloji and Baba Rahman. Mourinho said He trusts the people that signed them. Who are the people And about the okada, be careful next time. and Yes we have to blame Emenalo. Sign correct player, E no go sign. How would your mind be in one place.? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 1:16pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:21pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
donjazet: Ranieiri carried Leicester with mostly division 2 quality players to the league less than 5months ago Mourinho team 10 days ago lost 3-1 to Watford, Dortmund 4 Madrid 1 These are just random ones wey come my head |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:26pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Greatihex:If you are playing a very weak team they can afford not to track back but when playing top opposition Let me ask if Hazard is attacking does he expect the full back to overlap and come to help him? Below is Bayern vs Barcelona, Thats Ribery in Bayern box helping the full back Alaba and dribbling Messi on the way to a team goal |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:33pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo: Like this guy abi? When it all goes titts up, blame Emenalo. Example is with Papy Djiboloji and Baba Rahman. Mourinho said He trusts the people that signed them. Who are the people Papy did not play for us. Rahman barely played. Neither is at the club today. Most people will agree that Matic, Cahill and Ivanovic at the very least, are currently our worst players. Of course, Emenalo still has to be brought into the discussion because, hey! It's Emenalo. Let me help you complete this part. David Luiz is crap defensively, and Alonso can't seem to make the team - Blame Emenalo. And about the okada, be careful next time. grin and Yes we have to blame Emenalo. Sign correct player, E no go sign. How would your mind be in one place.? I'm sure it was Emenalo driving the Okada. When I said 'I blame Emenalo' earlier, you asked me if I was joking...why you dey ask na? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:36pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo: [img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJPog3NWwAASK1g.png:medium[/img] |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:37pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Nihilist: Be careful yourself. Don't offend the gods else Your flogging go resume next weekend |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 2:06pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Nihilist: Lol. I don't want to go into this argument with you. You and Daddy Ibime have had this argument countless of times. I even lost count sef. You said Papy and Baba never played, so why were they bought in the 1st place.? Last season was our worst season in like 20 Years and both of them never broke into the team. We bought these guys for back up. If the regular players like Cahill, Matic füücks up, we would have them to count on.. (See Barca's business this last summer) Swift and cool. On that Chelsea's board, Emenalo is technically the only one with football idea. No purchase or sale is done without him knowing. So why wouldn't I blame him.? One of the reason he and Mourinho always had issues. Mourinho knew the team needed to be fortified last season, but see the kind of players that were gotten for him. Apart from Pedro, others were mediocre players.! Where is Miagza, Baba, Luis, Papy, Falcao, Pato, Kennedy, Micheal Hector? Where are these lots? But I know you, you won't still agree with me. PS: Pep said we needed like 10 new players but we handed Ivanovic, Cahill and Co. new contracts. Who did that? Abramovic? Or you think Emenalo won't know about it? 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 2:22pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Bimffo That is Terry marking Cahill actually. Not the other way round...lol But Terry's eye is at the ball so he didn't know it was Cahill. He thought is was Thiago Silva. But Cahill, being a useless player he is, is facing his goal. Who does that?? Only useless defenders! lol. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 2:36pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
timbros: I have a feeling Cahill left Thiago Silva to mark Terry, confusing terry in the process. You are very right. Everyone was facing the other way, Cahill was facing his goal post. Mehn, we have suffered. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:36pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bimffo: The point I'm trying to make is that Emenalo cannot be held responsible because he does not make any decisions. He doesn't cut the cheque. Abi you want to blame him for recommending players? How many other clubs do you know where like 4 different people are pictured with the player signing the contracts? Where this argument died the last time was when Ibime and Griffon both agreed that Marina Gravanoskaia is the one that negotiates the deals with the selling clubs - yet neither one of them was able identify how Marina determines a players worth. I mean, it's not like there's an argos catalogue for footballers where a picture of each player is listed next to their prices in neat columns. If Emenalo is not the one who cuts the cheque, then he surely cannot push for any player...he can only suggest. This is from the Guardian last year. Chelsea boast an extensive network of scouts, at home and abroad, but first-team recruitment still relies heavily on input from the manager, José Mourinho, and the technical director, Michael Emenalo. They will target positions that need strengthening in the first-team and identify potential recruits, and then liaise with each other to compile a list of names to be submitted to the hierarchy. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jul/03/premier-league-transfers-who-decides-club-buys |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 2:40pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Hazard no be Emenalo signing |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:45pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
bigkesh: So who is the Emenalo signing now? Only one club we have Emenalo signing, Jose signing, Conte signing, Marina signing, Piet de Visser signing, etc. You genuinely believe that all these people are signing players for Chelsea at the same time? |
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