I wonder if we have any native java android developer here, let us talk JAVA small.
Maybe we can even get to share some libraries.

dhtml18:
I wonder if we have any native java android developer here, let us talk JAVA small.
Maybe we can even get to share some libraries.

I have an App idea, I don't know if I should go native way or just hybrid.

FrankLampard:


I have an App idea, I don't know if I should go native way or just hybrid.

Always stick with native. In the short term, hybrid gets you faster to the market plus the sheer allure of cross-platform, but native apps always perform better than hybrid on the device. Also stay away from the new cross-platform native sdks like xamarin. They create problems on the long run. The last thing you want is to build a successful app and have to hurry to build the native version because of user complaints.

seunthomas:

Always stick with native. In the short term, hybrid gets you faster to the market plus the sheer allure of cross-platform, but native apps always perform better than hybrid on the device. Also stay away from the new cross-platform native sdks like xamarin. They create problems on the long run. The last thing you want is to build a successful app and have to hurry to build the native version because of user complaints.

Exactly, you are very much on point

I want to create my first project..
.
An android app (to-do list) but don't know how to make it work as Android app...
And I'll be using JavaScript..
.
Please what's the steps.. I know how to design and code the stuff..

KvnqPrezo:
I want to create my first project..
.
An android app (to-do list) but don't know how to make it work as Android app...
And I'll be using JavaScript..
.
Please what's the steps.. I know how to design and code the stuff..

Have you checked out Phonegap ?

seunthomas:

Always stick with native. In the short term, hybrid gets you faster to the market plus the sheer allure of cross-platform, but native apps always perform better than hybrid on the device. Also stay away from the new cross-platform native sdks like xamarin. They create problems on the long run. The last thing you want is to build a successful app and have to hurry to build the native version because of user complaints.

It depends on the App idea.... Hybrid apps generally seem to perform poorly because it is TOO DAMN easy to create a crappy Hybrid App.....

But I tell you, there are some that perform just as good as native... I agree, it's really difficult to see such, but I have

FincoApps:


Have you checked out Phonegap ?

I don't know about it and how it works

KvnqPrezo:

I don't know about it and how it works

Just simply do some research on it... basically, it's a framework to make your web project written in (HTML, CSS and Javascript) to run as an Application on a smartphone....

The whole App actually runs on a webview thus it has limited resources compared to Native Apps.... That's why if you create a Phonegap app just the way you create websites, you would experience a lot of performance issues

FincoApps:


It depends on the App idea.... Hybrid apps generally seem to perform poorly because it is TOO DAMN easy to create a crappy Hybrid App.....

But I tell you, there are some that perform just as good as native... I agree, it's really difficult to see such, but I have

You are the biggest rookie i have met. Mind you i contributed code to the original phonegap till it was moved to apache cordova.

You cant make a performing hybrid app that would be half as good as a native app.(I stand to be corrected).

Native apps can be optimized so much that they are near perfect.

And the challenge with hybrid apps is that they will perform differently on different devices.

Maybe you should try testing on devices with 1GB ram or less and comeback here and make the same statement.

KvnqPrezo:

I don't know about it and how it works

If you can afford to spend time and stress of learning native development, please go into native development straight away.

FincoApps:


Just simply do some research on it... basically, it's a framework to make your web project written in (HTML, CSS and Javascript) to run as an Application on a smartphone....

The whole App actually runs on a webview thus it has limited resources compared to Native Apps.... That's why if you create a Phonegap app just the way you create websites, you would experience a lot of performance issues

Okay

seunthomas:

If you can afford to spend time and stress of learning native development, please go into native development straight away.

And you're are now confusing me...
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I don't know the difference between native and hybrid...

KvnqPrezo:

And you're are now confusing me...
.
I don't know the difference between native and hybrid...

Native apps use the official SDK from android or ios. Hybrid apps use the webview which is part of the official SDK.
A webview is a browser. Most of the webviews are based upon webkit and some even have the v8 engine as their javascript engine.
A hybrid app is just a web app thats running in an android app. The issue they have is the native-js bridge.
Your first lesson you probably learn when comparing programming languages is that
c is faster than java and assembly faster than c.
This is true because with assembly you are already at the machine level.
C is converted to binary but via assembly so its still a stage higher.
Now java is first of all converted to another intermediary form(byte code) and byte code is then assemled.
Within all this stages time is wasted although very small in most cases.

Its the same with Hybrid apps. Hybrid apps talk with java in case of android or objective c in case of IOS via a bridge.

The delay between the bridge causes lag in the apps and sometimes apps maybe very sluggish.

seunthomas:


You are the biggest rookie i have met. Mind you i contributed code to the original phonegap till it was moved to apache cordova.

You cant make a performing hybrid app that would be half as good as a native app.(I stand to be corrected).

Native apps can be optimized so much that they are near perfect.

And the challenge with hybrid apps is that they will perform differently on different devices.

Maybe you should try testing on devices with 1GB ram or less and comeback here and make the same statement.

LOL why are you calling me a rookie now..... I know about Phonegap apps not performing well on Less privileged devices but first of all

I'm considering majority of devices we have around
Secondly, creating plugins can fix the rest mehn... it's all about the approach

Lastly I think you are retarded and it's a waste of time trying to make communicate with you

FincoApps:


LOL why are you calling me a rookie now..... I know about Phonegap apps not performing well on Less privileged devices but first of all

I'm considering majority of devices we have around
Secondly, creating plugins can fix the rest mehn... it's all about the approach

Lastly I think you are retarded and it's a waste of time trying to make communicate with you

Do you know i get angry with people like you??

Its because you dont know much and you are misinforming people.

Thats why i get pissed and vexed........

Look who is call someone a retard.

By all standards am not your mate when it comes to programming so please go and look in a mirror and make that statement.

seunthomas:

Native apps use the official SDK from android or ios. Hybrid apps use the webview which is part of the official SDK.
A webview is a browser. Most of the webviews are based upon webkit and some even have the v8 engine as their javascript engine.
A hybrid app is just a web app thats running in an android app. The issue they have is the native-js bridge.
Your first lesson you probably learn when comparing programming languages is that
c is faster than java and assembly faster than c.
This is true because with assembly you are already at the machine level.
C is converted to binary but via assembly so its still a stage higher.
Now java is first of all converted to another intermediary form(byte code) and byte code is then assemled.
Within all this stages time is wasted although very small in most cases.

Its the same with Hybrid apps. Hybrid apps talk with java in case of android or objective c in case of IOS via a bridge.

The delay between the bridge causes lag in the apps and sometimes apps maybe very sluggish.

Thanks so much..

Did NL just censor me??

seunthomas:


Do you know i get angry with people like you??

Its because you dont know much and you are misinforming people.

Thats why i get pissed and vexed........

Look who is call someone a retard.

By all standards am not your mate when it comes to programming so please go and look in a mirror and make that statement.

Who's flexing muscles with you in programming, who ever mentioned I'm a programmer to you ?.... I'm sure you were one of those daft bullies when you were younger....

Someone as knowledgeable as you are don't deserve such insults but you always find a way to sound dumb....

Well like I said you are too slow to pay attention to, so I'll just shift and ignore you

FincoApps:


Who's flexing muscles with you in programming, who ever mentioned I'm a programmer to you ?.... I'm sure you were one of those daft bullies when you were younger....

Someone as knowledgeable as you are don't deserve such insults but you always find a way to sound dumb

I know you are a programmer. Except you have been lying...

You guys have started e-fight on my thread again. . . . . .you are all hereby charged for TROLLING on my thread

dhtml18:
You guys have started e-fight on my thread again. . . . . .you are all hereby charged for TROLLING on my thread

Sorry mehn,

I decided to surrender so you can have your thread back

seunThomas are you an Android Developer?

.

The dude below me will answer your question

seunthomas:


Do you know i get angry with people like you??

Its because you dont know much and you are misinforming people.

Thats why i get pissed and vexed........

Look who is call someone a retard.

By all standards am not your mate when it comes to programming so please go and look in a mirror and make that statement.

You dont need to keep telling everyone how great you are as a programmer. He thought its a waste of time trying communicate with you, then just leave him. You dont have to tell him hes a kid to you at programming. It doesnt make sense to me.

seunthomas:

Always stick with native. In the short term, hybrid gets you faster to the market plus the sheer allure of cross-platform, but native apps always perform better than hybrid on the device. Also stay away from the new cross-platform native sdks like xamarin. They create problems on the long run. The last thing you want is to build a successful app and have to hurry to build the native version because of user complaints.

What kind of problem? The apps look and feel native(the ones built with xamarin)

make i carry my big CHAIR...sit down here....


using this libraryhttps://github.com/meshileya/awesome-android-ui for material design ish .....is just like...a MODEL...crushing on me...lolzzz

Darangi007:

What kind of problem? The apps look and feel native(the ones built with xamarin)

like, my own thought is using c# to build android..with the help of xamarin...is still like routing through the native way ...or are they different?

israelboy1:
make i carry my big CHAIR...sit down here....


using this libraryhttps://github.com/meshileya/awesome-android-ui for material design ish .....is just like...a MODEL...crushing on me...lolzzz

Best contribution so far. Thank you for sharing.

Darangi007:

What kind of problem? The apps look and feel native(the ones built with xamarin)

Xamarin is the closest to native apps. It actually converts to assembly on ios and bundled the .net runtime on android. It however can not compete speed wise with truely native apps. The point is once you go cross platform, you must be ready for trade offs which in many cases include speed/performance issues.

@seunthomas and @dhtml18, is any of you good at PHP? Using MVC. There is a problem I would need your help with please. Thank you.