Tinfoil:


More on request by PM

Kenya special ops recruit Combat Water Survival Training with a Backpack weighing 25kg & personal rifle

Perfectdanny:


Still not comparable with us army infantry

Tinfoil:


More on request by PM

Henry240:


There is no basis for a comparison sir. The US spends on their military an amount which is almost double the size of our GDP.

Perfectdanny:


No sidearm? If there is, which one? What about P.D.W?

The Deputy AMISOM Force Commander, Maj. Gen. Nakibus Lakara, hands over a certificate to an officer during a closing session of the three-day seminar on countering improvised explosive devices for troop contributing countries of the African Union Mission in Somalia at the Joint Military Training Center, in Mogadishu, Somalia on September 1, 2016. AMISOM Photo / Ilyas Ahmed

The Deputy AMISOM Force Commander, Maj. Gen. Nakibus Lakara, hands over a certificate to an officer during a closing session of the three-day seminar on countering improvised explosive devices for troop contributing countries of the African Union Mission in Somalia at the Joint Military Training Center, in Mogadishu, Somalia on September 1, 2016. AMISOM Photo / Ilyas Ahmed

The Deputy AMISOM Force Commander, Maj. Gen. Nakibus Lakara, makes closing remarks of the three-day seminar on countering improvised explosive devices for troop contributing countries of the African Union Mission in Somalia at the Joint Military Training Center, in Mogadishu, Somalia on September 1, 2016. AMISOM Photo / Ilyas Ahmed

Participants attend a closing session of three-day seminar on countering improvised explosive devices for troop contributing countries of the African Union Mission in Somalia at the Joint Military Training Center, in Mogadishu, Somalia on September 1, 2016. AMISOM Photo / Ilyas Ahmed

The Deputy AMISOM Force Commander, Maj. Gen. Nakibus Lakara, and participants pose for a group photo at the closing session of a seminar on countering improvised explosive devices for troop contributing countries of the African Union Mission in Somalia at the Joint Military Training Center, in Mogadishu, Somalia on September 1, 2016. AMISOM Photo / Ilyas Ahmed

Henry240:


Infantry soldiers don't use side arms, however all our Special Forces carry a Glock 9mm pistol.


For P.D.W we use the FN P90 and UZI PRO (DSS), while military use the Mini-Beryl although in very limited numbers.


Special forces use CTAR-21 (Navy and Airforce), while a joint Army, Navy, Air Force unit (AFSF) use the WZ Beryl 2004.

Perfectdanny:


Can you please tell me why our infantry don't use sidearms or pdw are their lives meaningless compared to their counterparts in the DSS etc

Fidha254:
Now any police from lowest to most senior rank rank can walk to any hospital he choses to with his entire family,

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Police-officers-finally-get-enhanced-medical-cover/1056-3401852-12e0qjo/index.html

Police and prison officers, their spouses and children will receive free health care after the government procured a medical insurance for them.
The comprehensive cover will be provided by AAR as the lead insurer and four other companies. AON is the administrator of the new scheme.
The cover became effective Saturday and officers are required to register with AAR to enjoy the benefits.
The lowest ranked officer, a constable, is insured at Sh150,000 for outpatient and Sh1.5 million for inpatient every year.
On the other hand the highest ranked officer is insured at Sh500,000 for outpatient and Sh5 million for inpatient.
The new scheme will cover a 107,000-strong workforce from the National Police Service and the Kenya Prisons Service.......

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An official conversant with the new cover described it as “superior”, compared to the old one administered by National Hospital Insurance Fund.
Unlike the old one, officers will be free to seek treatment from any hospital within the country including top private hospital.
Officers from the rank of Constable to Senior Assistant Inspector-General, in the old cover, were limited to visiting selected health facilities, with a bias to government-owned ones.
BETTER DEAL
Only high ranking officers were allowed to access top hospitals but were, however, restricted to Sh800,000 cover for inpatient treatment.
The scheme is in addition to the Sh1.7 billion life insurance cover that was unveiled two years ago.
The deal is a big relief to police because a majority of them could not afford decent medical care.
It comes seven years late because it was envisioned in the Ransley report, the police reforms blueprint that was adopted by the government in 2009.

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1$ = 100 ksh

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Perfectdanny:


Can you please tell me why our infantry don't use sidearms or pdw are their lives meaningless compared to their counterparts in the DSS etc

Patchesagain:


Carefull

We do this in RSA with our military hospitals.

The money comes out of Militart Health Services budget - their budgets can get hit quite hard by this.

frumentius:
Who here is also currently watching this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6065848/?ref_=nv_sr_6

andrewza:
so high ranking officers get to go to better hospitals and have more coverage? SANDF is 100% cover for all ranks and if you serve till. retirement it till death

andrewza:


What would a side arm or PDW do for a Nigerian solder? Infantry don't carry PDW in the USA or any where.

Henry240:


They(Regular Infantry) don't use side-arms or PDW because they are not a requirement. At squad level the guys have access to a machine gun and an AGL. They also get Infantry support from a 12.7mm mounted on a gun-truck or an MRAP.


The blokes still get support from 30mms, Main Battle Tanks, 90mm Tank destroyers and Attack Helicopters. So as you can see, they are well covered.


However for Special Forces units, they mostly work independently and in mostly Close Quarters, in many cases without any support whatsoever. These units require a secondary side arm(Pistol) or a PDW like a P-90 so that if the primary weapon fails they can still defend themselves while they plan an escape route.


DSS are an Intelligence outfit and a Close Body protection unit for VVIPs. Hence the requirement of a PDW.

Perfectdanny:


Boss man they don't have it doesn't mean it isn't a requirement.

All those machines may fail at some point. What if during combat i get seperated and my primary weapon jams (which of course is perfectly possible) what then do i use? Or you think this event wouldn't be possible.

You can view my profile and see for yourself a thread i created about sidearms.

Perfectdanny:


Check google and clear your doubts please.

Perfectdanny:


Boss man they don't have it doesn't mean it isn't a requirement.

All those machines may fail at some point. What if during combat i get seperated and my primary weapon jams (which of course is perfectly possible) what then do i use? Or you think this event wouldn't be possible.

You can view my profile and see for yourself a thread i created about sidearms.

Fidha254:
KDF too has its own internal insuarance scheme, but from 2015, they outsourced to a Kenyan based insuarer. Outsourcing to a Ptivately managed company has its advantages, in that the govt pays a fixed negotiated and calculated amout on behalf of all the troops, while each individual officer still contributes the same fixture..... so the amount of cover that the government pays cannever increase since the burden of covering the actual cost is passed down to the insuarer, so if only 2k soldier seek medical then the insuarer profits from the fixed amount paid by govt, but if 200k seek treatement then the insurer will foot aditional bill.......
Compared to an internal insuarance scheme, If there is a huge number that seek treatment that costs more than the cumulative total that they have contributed, the same institution still has to foot the bill.... and these kinds of inauarance are prone to inefficiencies and bearocracy, (atleast in our country), private insuarances have a standard, they are efficient and faster in dealing with a patient...


This would have taken years to pay if it was KDF/govt itself compensating/covering the life insuarence scheme., it would have taken years b4 the families of fallen heros recieved compensation...

Posted Sunday, May 29 2016 at 14:53
Reports that the families of Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) troops killed by Al Shabaab terrorists in El-Adde. Somalia, in January will receive Sh341 million as compensation is a welcome development.
The financial compensation will go a long way in helping heal the families of our fallen soldiers who died gallantly while defending their countrymen.
Kenya has about 4,000 troops in the 22,000-strong African Union force that is battling Al-Shabaab in Somalia.
Jubilee Insurance, which is the main cover provider for KDF personnel, should also be commended for the timely pay-out.
By promptly releasing the compensation, the firm has also helped build the industry’s name in a country where the number of insured is still very low in comparison to the total population.
It is our view that such compensation should be sustained so as to enable the relatives of our troops move on comfortably without financial hurdles, given that most of these soldiers are normally the main providers of material sustenance to their kin.
The insurance company’s personal accident policy covers KDF soldiers for accidental death or disablement.http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/Timely-compensation-for-KDF-heroes-welcome/539548-3223920-10g111g/index.html

Perfectdanny:


Check google and clear your doubts please.

Fidha254:
Dude!!!!!
I downloaded episode 3 (flipping the switch).... damn that