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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 12:05am On Oct 01, 2016
Muslim be like...

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by trapQ: 5:53am On Oct 01, 2016
Bless you... Jesus is the son of God and God too.
Maamin:


Luke 3:22 "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."

Yes! He is the Son of God cool

Hebrews 1:1-10
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands

Yes! Jesus is Also God

Interesting right? wink
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by trapQ: 6:01am On Oct 01, 2016
Lol.... Try again.. Adolf Hitler wasn't a Christian. He was a Catholic from birth but stopped being a Christian at 17. His plan was to eradicate Christianity from Germany.. You need to read history books.

Besides God never killed at will. It was either in battle or they were defaulters.
APCsupporter:


What do you have to say about ur yahweh that wiped out a whole race, what do you have to say about David and Moses. Are they going to hell too?

Adolf Hitler killed over 6 million people and hey, he wasn't an atheist, he was a full-blooded catholic christian
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by aminusanti(m): 6:56am On Oct 01, 2016
Maamin:


Luke 3:22 "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."

Yes! He is the Son of God cool

Hebrews 1:1-10
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Read here for better understanding of this verse
http://jesusnotyhwh..co.id/2016/09/heb-1-8.html?m=1


9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands

Yes! Jesus is Also God

Interesting right? wink

Son of God, son of David, or son of Man?  Jesus is identified as “son of David” fourteen times in the New Testament, starting with the very first verse (Matthew 1:1).  The Gospel of Luke documents forty-one generations between Jesus and David, while Matthew lists twenty-six.  Jesus, a distant descendant, can only wear the “son of David” title metaphorically.  But how then should we understand the title, “son of God?”

For the sake of argument, let’s agree that he was precisely what he claimed to be.  But what, exactly, was that?  Jesus called himself “Son of Man” frequently, consistently, perhaps even emphatically, but where did he call himself “Son of God?”

Let’s back up.  What does “Son of God” mean in the first place?  No legitimate Christian sect suggests that God took a wife and had a child, and most certainly none conceive that God fathered a child through a human mother outside of marriage.  Furthermore, to suggest that God physically mated with an element of His creation is so far beyond the limits of religious tolerance as to plummet down the sheer cliff of blasphemy, chasing the mythology of the Greeks.

With no rational explanation available within the tenets of Christian doctrine, the only avenue for closure is to claim yet one more doctrinal mystery.  Here is where the Muslim recalls the question posed in the Quran:

“…How can He have a son when He has no consort?...” (Quran 6:101)

…while others shout, “But God can do anything!”  The Islamic position, however, is that God doesn’t do inappropriate things, only Godly things.  In the Islamic viewpoint, God’s character is integral with His being and consistent with His majesty.

So again, what does “Son of God” mean?  And if Jesus Christ has exclusive rights to the term, why does the Bible record, “...for I (God) am a father to Israel, and Ephraim (i.e. Israel) is my firstborn” (Jeremiah 31:9) and, “...Israel is My son, even my firstborn” (Exodus 4:22)?  Taken in the context of Romans 8:14, which reads, “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God,” many scholars conclude that “Son of God” is metaphorical and, as with christos, doesn’t imply exclusivity.  After all, The Oxford Dictionary of the Jewish Religion confirms that in Jewish idiom “Son of God” is clearly metaphorical.  To quote, “Son of God, term occasionally found in Jewish literature, biblical and post-biblical, but nowhere implying physical descent from the Godhead.” Hasting’s Bible Dictionary comments:

In Semitic usage “sonship” is a conception somewhat loosely employed to denote moral rather than physical or metaphysical relationship.  Thus “sons of Belial” (Jg 19:22 etc.) are wicked men, not descendants of Belial; and in the NT the “children of the bridechamber” are wedding guests.  So a “son of God” is a man, or even a people, who reflect the character of God.  There is little evidence that the title was used in Jewish circles of the Messiah, and a sonship which implied more than a moral relationship would be contrary to Jewish monotheism.

And in any case, the list of candidates for “son of God” begins with Adam, as per Luke 3:38: “...Adam, which was the son of God.”

Those who rebut by quoting Matthew 3:17 (“And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, ‘This is My beloved son, in whom I am well pleased’”) have overlooked the point that the Bible describes many people, Israel and Adam included, as “sons of God.”  Both II Samuel 7:13-14 and I Chronicles 22:10 read, “He (Solomon) shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.  I will be his Father, and he shall be My son.”

Entire nations are referred to as sons, or children of God.  Examples include:

Genesis 6:2, “That the sons of God saw the daughters of men…”

Genesis 6:4, “There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men…”

Deuteronomy 14:1, “Ye are the children of the Lord your God.”

Job 1:6, “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD…”

Job 2:1, “Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD…”

Job 38:7, “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”

Philippians 2:15, “that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation…”

1 John 3:1-2, “Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! … Beloved, now we are children of God…”

In Matthew 5:9 Jesus says, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.”  Later in Matthew 5:45, Jesus prescribed to his followers the attainment of noble attributes, “that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.”  Not exclusively his Father, but their Father …

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by APCsupporter: 8:49am On Oct 01, 2016
trapQ:
Lol.... Try again.. Adolf Hitler wasn't a Christian. He was a Catholic from birth but stopped being a Christian at 17. His plan was to eradicate Christianity from Germany.. You need to read history books.

Besides God never killed at will. It was either in battle or they were defaulters.

These are all lies by christians to hide the truth. Go through this thread and see how all your bros became confused

https://www.nairaland.com/3282256/those-claim-bishop-adolf-hitler

Hitler was a full-blooded christian

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Maamin(m): 12:40pm On Oct 02, 2016
aminusanti:


Son of God, son of David, or son of Man?  Jesus is identified as “son of David” fourteen times in the New Testament, starting with the very first verse (Matthew 1:1).  The Gospel of Luke documents forty-one generations between Jesus and David, while Matthew lists twenty-six.  Jesus, a distant descendant, can only wear the “son of David” title metaphorically.  But how then should we understand the title, “son of God?”

For the sake of argument, let’s agree that he was precisely what he claimed to be.  But what, exactly, was that?  Jesus called himself “Son of Man” frequently, consistently, perhaps even emphatically, but where did he call himself “Son of God?”

Let’s back up.  What does “Son of God” mean in the first place?  No legitimate Christian sect suggests that God took a wife and had a child, and most certainly none conceive that God fathered a child through a human mother outside of marriage.  Furthermore, to suggest that God physically mated with an element of His creation is so far beyond the limits of religious tolerance as to plummet down the sheer cliff of blasphemy, chasing the mythology of the Greeks.

With no rational explanation available within the tenets of Christian doctrine, the only avenue for closure is to claim yet one more doctrinal mystery.  Here is where the Muslim recalls the question posed in the Quran:

“…How can He have a son when He has no consort?...” (Quran 6:101)

…while others shout, “But God can do anything!”  The Islamic position, however, is that God doesn’t do inappropriate things, only Godly things.  In the Islamic viewpoint, God’s character is integral with His being and consistent with His majesty.

So again, what does “Son of God” mean?  And if Jesus Christ has exclusive rights to the term, why does the Bible record, “...for I (God) am a father to Israel, and Ephraim (i.e. Israel) is my firstborn” (Jeremiah 31:9) and, “...Israel is My son, even my firstborn” (Exodus 4:22)?  Taken in the context of Romans 8:14, which reads, “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God,” many scholars conclude that “Son of God” is metaphorical and, as with christos, doesn’t imply exclusivity.  After all, The Oxford Dictionary of the Jewish Religion confirms that in Jewish idiom “Son of God” is clearly metaphorical.  To quote, “Son of God, term occasionally found in Jewish literature, biblical and post-biblical, but nowhere implying physical descent from the Godhead.” Hasting’s Bible Dictionary comments:

In Semitic usage “sonship” is a conception somewhat loosely employed to denote moral rather than physical or metaphysical relationship.  Thus “sons of Belial” (Jg 19:22 etc.) are wicked men, not descendants of Belial; and in the NT the “children of the bridechamber” are wedding guests.  So a “son of God” is a man, or even a people, who reflect the character of God.  There is little evidence that the title was used in Jewish circles of the Messiah, and a sonship which implied more than a moral relationship would be contrary to Jewish monotheism.

And in any case, the list of candidates for “son of God” begins with Adam, as per Luke 3:38: “...Adam, which was the son of God.”

Those who rebut by quoting Matthew 3:17 (“And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, ‘This is My beloved son, in whom I am well pleased’”) have overlooked the point that the Bible describes many people, Israel and Adam included, as “sons of God.”  Both II Samuel 7:13-14 and I Chronicles 22:10 read, “He (Solomon) shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.  I will be his Father, and he shall be My son.”

Entire nations are referred to as sons, or children of God.  Examples include:

Genesis 6:2, “That the sons of God saw the daughters of men…”

Genesis 6:4, “There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men…”

Deuteronomy 14:1, “Ye are the children of the Lord your God.”

Job 1:6, “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD…”

Job 2:1, “Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD…”

Job 38:7, “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”

Philippians 2:15, “that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation…”

1 John 3:1-2, “Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! … Beloved, now we are children of God…”

In Matthew 5:9 Jesus says, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.”  Later in Matthew 5:45, Jesus prescribed to his followers the attainment of noble attributes, “that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.”  Not exclusively his Father, but their Father …

Are you done? Nice copy and paste, cool here is what the writer of that your piece is missing

Philippians 2:5-11

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Pay close attention to the bolded parts. Jesus was the first begotten of the father all things have been handed onto him.

Colossians 1:12-19

12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Surely Jesus Christ is one of a kind.. wink
His Sonship can never be over emphasised
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by aminusanti(m): 11:52pm On Oct 02, 2016
Maamin:


Are you done? Nice copy and paste, cool here is what the writer of that your piece is missing
The lies n contradiction in the bible are too much and easy to detect and now you are thinking maybe you are saying something here again, whatever verse u copied n paste here it's simply showing us how verses are contradicting each other in the bible and you people are sheepishly following without knowing the amount of error and contractions in it. God can never be the author of confusion.

Even if I copied n paste it is doing the job of exposing your lies that you are putting on the lips of an innocent man that never claim all these rubbish you people are putting on him and that why Almighty God prepared his 2nd coming just to prove to you people about your blind worship. And I can see all the verses you are quoting here r coming straight from your head!... now face your contradictory verses rather than analyzing the source of my write-up.

many of u people misunderstand the Bible; you feeling that the belief in Jesus as God is so widespread that it must have come from the Bible. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is not God.  In the Bible God is always someone else other than Jesus.


Philippians 2:5-11

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Pay close attention to the bolded parts. Jesus was the first begotten of the father all things have been handed onto him.

Now you pay attention to this Crystal clear contradictions below wink

Paul’s letter to the Philippians (Philippians 2:6-11) is often quoted as a proof that Jesus is God.  But the very passage shows that Jesus is not God.  This passage has to agree with Isaiah 45:22-24 where God said that every knee should bow to God, and every tongue should confess that righteousness and strength are in God alone.  Paul was aware of this passage, for he quoted it in Romans 14:11.  Knowing this, Paul declared: “I kneel before the Father.” (Ephesians 3:14).

Who is lying here Paul or GOD..u pple are followers of paul rather than Jesus or God.


Colossians 1:12-19

12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Surely Jesus Christ is one of a kind.. wink
His Sonship can never be over emphasised
Not hard to find the lies in bible with less effort.
Anyone who says that the Word of God is a person distinct from God must also admit that the Word was created, for the Word speaks in the Bible saying: “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works...” (Proverbs 8:22).

This Gospel, nevertheless, clearly teaches that Jesus is not God.  If it did not continue this teaching, then it would contradict the other three Gospels and also the letters of Paul from which it is clearly established that Jesus is not God.  We find here that Jesus was not co-equal with the Father, for Jesus said: “...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28).

People forget this and they say that Jesus is equal to the Father.  Whom should we believe — Jesus or the people?  Muslims and Christians agree that God is self-existent.  This means that He does not derive his existence from anyone.  Yet John tells us that Jesus’ existence is caused by the Father.  Jesus said in this Gospel: “...I live because of the Father...” (John 6:57).

John tells us that Jesus cannot do anything by his own when he quotes Jesus as saying: “By myself I can do nothing...” (John 5:30). 

Which should we believe in Abeg.. read as it says below

What Does the Quran say about the Bible: Corrupted or Uncorrupted, Valid or Invalid

The Quran says that the current Torah, Psalms and Gospel (the New Testament) have been badly corrupted. Numerous passages of the Quran refer to man’s distortion and alterations of the previous books of revelations from Allah. These passages in the Quran note that the received books by the People of the Book, The Jews and the Christians, do not conform to the original revelations that were given to Moses, David and Jesus.


Or do they envy mankind for what Allah hath given them of his bounty? but We had already given the people of Abraham the Book and Wisdom, and conferred upon them a great kingdom. (Quran 4:54)

….and to David We gave the Psalms (Quran 4:163)

And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. (Quran 5:46)


Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it… Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (Quran 2:75,79)


Seek Knowledge from d Quran and ask questions that my only advice to u.

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Ahmadgani(m): 6:10am On Oct 03, 2016
Constantine also had great influence in shaping Christianity today.
1. Constantine changed the place of the Resurrection of Christ.

2. Constantine changed the time of the Resurrection of Christ.

3. Constantine changed the time of the birth of Christ.

4. Constantine changed the Scriptural method of becoming a Christian.

5. Constantine changed the relationship of Christianity to the state.

6. Constantine changed the headquarters from Jerusalem to Rome or Constantinople.
http://www.reformation.org/6-changes-of-constantine.html

contradictions http://infidels.org/library/modern/paul_carlson/nt_contradictions.html
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 8:38am On Oct 04, 2016
aminusanti:

What Does the Quran say about the Bible: Corrupted or Uncorrupted, Valid or Invalid

The Quran says that the current Torah, Psalms and Gospel (the New Testament) have been badly corrupted. Numerous passages of the Quran refer to man’s distortion and alterations of the previous books of revelations from Allah. These passages in the Quran note that the received books by the People of the Book, The Jews and the Christians, do not conform to the original revelations that were given to Moses, David and Jesus.


Or do they envy mankind for what Allah hath given them of his bounty? but We had already given the people of Abraham the Book and Wisdom, and conferred upon them a great kingdom. (Quran 4:54)

….and to David We gave the Psalms (Quran 4:163)

And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. (Quran 5:46)


Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it… Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (Quran 2:75,79)


Seek Knowledge from d Quran and ask questions that my only advice to u.


The Qur'an (and therefore Mohammed), mentions the Bible ("the Book"wink over 200 times, declaring it to be a true revelation of God and commanding faith in the Bible.

Surah 5:48 explains that the Qur'an confirms the Old Testament's authenticity: "To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety..." This point is repeated in Surah 46:12 where Allah says, "And before this, was the Book of Moses as a guide and a mercy: And this Book [the Qur'an] confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue..."

The Gospel is also specifically upheld by the Qur'an. Sura 5:46 says: " And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah."

The Qur'an is clear that the word of God cannot be altered (or abrogated) by man, including these passages: "... there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah." (Surah 6:34) "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all." (Surah 6:115) "...no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity." (Surah 10:64)

In Surah 29:46 Muslims are told by Allah not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying, "And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, but say, 'We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you;...'" So Muslims who argue that the Bible is corrupt are defying Allah!

Here is a summary of the logical argument for Islam's acceptance of today's Bible:

A. The Qur'an (and therefore Mohammed) proclaim the Bible as God's authoritative, binding, incorruptible revelation to man;

B. True Muslims are obliged to believe in all God's revelations (Sura 2:136; 4:136; 29:4);

C. The Qur'an claims that no one can ever change the Word of God (Sura 6:34; 10:34)

THE NEXT TIME YOU READ YOUR QURAN, PLEASE READ IT WITH UNDERSTANDING........
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by aminusanti(m): 9:59am On Oct 04, 2016
Clementor:


The Qur'an (and therefore Mohammed), mentions the Bible ("the Book"wink over 200 times, declaring it to be a true revelation of God and commanding faith in the Bible.

Surah 5:48 explains that the Qur'an confirms the Old Testament's authenticity: "To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety..." This point is repeated in Surah 46:12 where Allah says, "And before this, was the Book of Moses as a guide and a mercy: And this Book [the Qur'an] confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue..."

The Gospel is also specifically upheld by the Qur'an. Sura 5:46 says: " And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah."

The Qur'an is clear that the word of God cannot be altered (or abrogated) by man, including these passages: "... there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah." (Surah 6:34) "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all." (Surah 6:115) "...no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity." (Surah 10:64)

In Surah 29:46 Muslims are told by Allah not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying, "And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, but say, 'We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you;...'" So Muslims who argue that the Bible is corrupt are defying Allah!

Here is a summary of the logical argument for Islam's acceptance of today's Bible:

A. The Qur'an (and therefore Mohammed) proclaim the Bible as God's authoritative, binding, incorruptible revelation to man;

B. True Muslims are obliged to believe in all God's revelations (Sura 2:136; 4:136; 29:4);

C. The Qur'an claims that no one can ever change the Word of God (Sura 6:34; 10:34)

THE NEXT TIME YOU READ YOUR QURAN, PLEASE READ IT WITH UNDERSTANDING........
Can't stop laughing really! Lol.. that's why you people hardly see the truth, I swear almost all those verses you quoted them wrong..just look at how you ignorantly remove those verses out of there context...my guy you don't study scriptures like this, some verses are straight forward but some u need explanation.. can I explain it to you now or my explanation wont help?

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 10:57am On Oct 04, 2016
aminusanti:

Can't stop laughing really! Lol.. that's why you people hardly see the truth, I swear almost all those verses you quoted them wrong..just look at how you ignorantly remove those verses out of there context...my guy you don't study scriptures like this, some verses are straight forward but some u need explanation.. can I explain it to you now or my explanation wont help?

what truth? The truth that the Quran refer you people to the scripture if you get confuse.
go ahead with you explanation.
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by promise101: 1:50pm On Oct 04, 2016
aminusanti:

My guy answer a simple question na without insults
Insult?

I see no way calling your prophet a paedophile is an insult, because that's what he really is. Or should I prove that?

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by annunaki2(m): 2:34pm On Oct 04, 2016
promise101:

Insult?

I see no way calling your prophet a paedophile is an insult, because that's what he really is. Or should I prove that?

Apparently he is ashamed of what his prophet truly is. cheesy
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 5:18pm On Oct 04, 2016
aminusanti:

Can't stop laughing really! Lol.. that's why you people hardly see the truth, I swear almost all those verses you quoted them wrong..just look at how you ignorantly remove those verses out of there context...my guy you don't study scriptures like this, some verses are straight forward but some u need explanation.. can I explain it to you now or my explanation wont help?

Am still waiting for your explanation
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by aminusanti(m): 7:42pm On Oct 04, 2016
Clementor:


The Qur'an (and therefore Mohammed), mentions the Bible ("the Book"wink over 200 times, declaring it to be a true revelation of God and commanding faith in the Bible.
Sorry for my lateness sir, just got chance.

Without any doubt the Bible Is true revelation of God Almighty but in it original form

Now what does the Quran mean when it says Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus (peace and blessings be upon all of them) all got their individual books? The Quran means that these books were revealed to their messengers in their original form (probably meaning as an oral message). So these books were given to the four messengers of Allah, directly by a revelation from Allah. After these messengers received these revelations, some messengers like Abraham, Moses and David wrote these revelations down and others didn’t like Jesus. After Abraham, Moses and David died, the book of Abraham was lost, The Torah of Moses was corrupted and badly edited as time went on and most of the Psalms of David were written by unknown writers. As for the Gospel, well as soon as Jesus left the earth—the New Testament was badly corrupted by unreliable oral traditions, growing legends, fictional forms and cheats and frauds who were pretending to be apostles of the original church (like Paul of Tarsus).


Surah 5:48 explains that the Qur'an confirms the Old Testament's authenticity: "To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety..." This point is repeated in Surah 46:12 where Allah says, "And before this, was the Book of Moses as a guide and a mercy: And this Book [the Qur'an] confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue..."

The Gospel is also specifically upheld by the Qur'an. Sura 5:46 says: " And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah."

Again u are failing to identify and understand how the Qur'an uses the terms 'Torah' and 'Gospel' in the Qur'an. When the Qur'an talks about the Torah and Gospel, one of its intentions is to speak about the original revelations sent to Moses and Jesus peace be upon them both respectively.

How do we understand those verses in light of other verses in the Qur'an that state the Torah was a meant as a guide in the past prior to the Qur'an and not before...

 
Surah 11:
Surah 11:17

Prior to this (Quran), the book of Moses served as a guide, and was a blessing


Surah 46:12

Prior to this, the book of Moses was the guide and mercy. This book, (the Qur'an) is in the Arabic language and it confirms and validates (the book of Moses).
[i]

 
Ibn Kathir says in his commentary...

This means that before the Qur'an, there was the Book of Musa, the Tawrah.
(a guidance and a mercy) This means that Allah, the Exalted, revealed it to that Ummah as a leader for them and a guide for them to follow, as a mercy from Allah upon them. Therefore, whoever believed in it with true faith, then it would lead him to believe in the Qur'an as well. For this reason Allah said,
(they believe therein) Then Allah, the Exalted, threatens those who reject the Qur'an, or any part of it, by saying,
(but those of the sects that reject it, the Fire will be their promised meeting place.) This is directed towards everyone on the face of the earth who disbelieves in the Qur'an, whether they are idolators, disbelievers, People of the Scripture, or other sects from the descendants of Adam. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Source)

We see that the Torah was meant as a guide for the people of Prophet Moses's (peace be upon him) time. However, now it is the Qur'an, which is the guide that all mankind must follow...

Surah 2:185

[i]The month of Ramadaan is that in which the Qur'an was revealed as a guidance for mankind with clear proofs of guidance and discrimination.


Surah 5:68

"Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith."

Surah 39:27

"And, indeed, WE have set forth for mankind all manner of parables in this Qur'an that they may take heed
."






The Qur'an is clear that the word of God cannot be altered (or abrogated) by man, including these passages: "... there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah." (Surah 6:34) "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all." (Surah 6:115) "...no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity." (Surah 10:64)

It seems quite clear just from reading the context alone that what is meant by "none change His words" is that no one could stop Allah's promises from being fulfilled. Reading Surah 6:115 alone makes that very clear.


Anyone could simply pick up a Qur'an and grab a pen and scribble out words and add his own, however that doesn't mean that one is refuting the idea that none can change the words of Allah. Rather, changing the words of Allah in the passage means that one cannot change what He has promised would occur.

One could easily change and distort texts by picking up a book and a pen, but they could not change the original true texts and revelations which is with Allah on al-Lawh al-Mahfudh (preserved tablet) since the speech of Allah is uncreated and no one can ever make it go lost completely. Removing the words from the books here on earth does not mean that God's words have become totally lost but lost here on earth only. 


In Surah 29:46 Muslims are told by Allah not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying, "And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, but say, 'We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you;...'" So Muslims who argue that the Bible is corrupt are defying Allah!
Very wrong !

It's saying have respect for Jews and Christians (People of the Book) because God revealed true religion to them. Over the years though those revelations were mistranslated, corrupted, or abused for personal gain. When God made Muhammad the Seal of the Prophets and the last of the Messengers, He basically says, "OK, this is it. Last chance."


Here is a summary of the logical argument for Islam's acceptance of today's Bible:

A. The Qur'an (and therefore Mohammed) proclaim the Bible as God's authoritative, binding, incorruptible revelation to man;

B. True Muslims are obliged to believe in all God's revelations (Sura 2:136; 4:136; 29:4);

C. The Qur'an claims that no one can ever change the Word of God (Sura 6:34; 10:34)


Refer to the replies above


THE NEXT TIME YOU READ YOUR QURAN, PLEASE READ IT WITH UNDERSTANDING........
Ok I will sir but I have this question for u
Do you believe Quran to be word of God?

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 10:45pm On Oct 04, 2016
aminusanti:

Sorry for my lateness sir, just got chance.

Without any doubt the Bible Is true revelation of God Almighty but in it original form

Now what does the Quran mean when it says Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus (peace and blessings be upon all of them) all got their individual books? The Quran means that these books were revealed to their messengers in their original form (probably meaning as an oral message). So these books were given to the four messengers of Allah, directly by a revelation from Allah. After these messengers received these revelations, some messengers like Abraham, Moses and David wrote these revelations down and others didn’t like Jesus. After Abraham, Moses and David died, the book of Abraham was lost, The Torah of Moses was corrupted and badly edited as time went on and most of the Psalms of David were written by unknown writers. As for the Gospel, well as soon as Jesus left the earth—the New Testament was badly corrupted by unreliable oral traditions, growing legends, fictional forms and cheats and frauds who were pretending to be apostles of the original church (like Paul of Tarsus).

can you prove that the Holy Bible is corrupt?






Anyone could simply pick up a Qur'an and grab a pen and scribble out words and add his own, however that doesn't mean that one is refuting the idea that none can change the words of Allah. Rather, changing the words of Allah in the passage means that one cannot change what He has promised would occur.

One could easily change and distort texts by picking up a book and a pen, but they could not change the original true texts and revelations which is with Allah on al-Lawh al-Mahfudh (preserved tablet) since the speech of Allah is uncreated and no one can ever make it go lost completely. Removing the words from the books here on earth does not mean that God's words have become totally lost but lost here on earth only.

If you know that changing a word in the Holy Quran does not change Allah promise, why do you think changing a word in the Holy Bible has change God promise.


Very wrong !

It's saying have respect for Jews and Christians (People of the Book) because God revealed true religion to them. Over the years though those revelations were mistranslated, corrupted, or abused for personal gain. When God made Muhammad the Seal of the Prophets and the last of the Messengers, He basically says, "OK, this is it. Last chance."



Refer to the replies above


Ok I will sir but I have this question for u
Do you believe Quran to be word of God?

Muhammad himself asked to see the Torah to
make a ruling on someone's life. It makes
absolutely no sense for him to do that if he thought
the texts were corrupt.

The Quran itself tells Muslims to refer back to the
people of the books if they need knowledge. This
is when the Quran bit itself in its own backside.

Why in the world ask someone for knowledge if
you know they are following a corrupt text?

Maybe some of the those "Quranic words" written
on rib bones was smeared or something. Maybe a
camel or goat chewed on it like Aisha said some of
the Quran was eaten by a goat.
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by aminusanti(m): 1:30pm On Oct 08, 2016
Clementor:


can you prove that the Holy Bible is corrupt?
sorry for my late reply been very bz lately.

yes i can prove it. do u need the proofs? it will
be a topic on its own.

If you know that changing a word in the Holy Quran does not change Allah promise, why do you think changing a word in the Holy Bible has change God promise.

i didn't say the promises of God in the Bible can be changed. i said promises and prophecies that Allah has made in His revelations could never be changed and they always as occur as He stated in the Bible but the text were badly altered which you people can't deny it too.

"Ibn Kathir states in his commentary on Surah 5:15:
Now has come to you Our Messenger explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over much.) So the Prophet explained where they altered, distorted, changed and lied about Allah. He also ignored much of what they changed, since it would not bring about any benefit if it was explained". (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Source)


Allah has made a promise that the Qur'an would be preserved for us (Surah 15:9). A unique claim not made for any other scripture.
and it is undeniable that Quran today is preserved, free from errors, corruption and alteration unlike other scriptures, there is only one Qur'an wherever u go and the text is the same unlike Bible. Yhe Quran confirmed that bible is corrupt.

Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it… Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (Quran 2:75,79)

There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! (Quran 3:78)

>Qur'an 2:140 They "Conceal a testimony they have from Allah."

>Qur'an 3:79 The Jews "teach the book and read it themselves."

>Qur'an 3:187 The Jews "cast it (Allah's book) "behind their backs"

>Qur'an 4:46 The Jews "alter the words from their places" and "distort the book with their tongues."

>Qur'an 5:13 The Jews "altered the words from their places" and "forgot a good part of the message."

>Qur'an 5:15 The Jews "concealed that which Muhammad had made clear" and Muhammad made clear much which they had "passed over" (in their book)

>Qur'an 5:41 The Jews "alter the words from their places."


Muhammad himself asked to see the Torah to
make a ruling on someone's life. It makes
absolutely no sense for him to do that if he thought
the texts were corrupt.
Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him was *also* using it as his evidence against the Jews. Yes there were many addition and deletion in the scriptures, they were corrupted, but despite their corruption, they still contained enough truth in them to lead any person to Islam. Thus, had the Jews/ christians followed their own book, they would have had no other choice but to become Muslims because their book still contained enough truth therein to lead a person to Islam.

"The Torah, the Old Testament, and the Gospel, the New testament, still contain some truth and guidance that can be evidence against Jews and Christians. If they implemented their laws, Jews and Christians would believe in the Prophet Muhammad's message, confirming what was sent before him, and thus would follow the guidance and light. Muhammad was sent down with clear evidence to his truthfulness and he followed the path of the Prophets before him, who were sent to the Jews and the Christians."


The Quran itself tells Muslims to refer back to the
people of the books if they need knowledge. This
is when the Quran bit itself in its own backside.

Why in the world ask someone for knowledge if
you know they are following a corrupt text?

that's according to your own understanding and interpretation but the real context is Without knowing that the Noble Qur'an claims that the scriptures before it were corrupted by men(2:77-78), you can easily come to the conclusion that the Noble Qur'an confirms the Bible.

However, the Qur’an talks about the True scriptures He has sent to the prophets before Muhammad(pbuh), not the corrupted Bible.


Maybe some of the those "Quranic words" written
on rib bones was smeared or something. Maybe a
camel or goat chewed on it like Aisha said some of
the Quran was eaten by a goat.

those hadiths are weak and unauthentic
- The narration n your claims no way questions Qur’an infallibility:
Even if the narration/ claims were authentic it no way questions the claim of Qur’an being totally preserved and here are my evidences for this;
1- Generally when a verse was revealed it was written down not by one or two companions but at least seven or more then that. If a goat had eaten a verse of Quran there might had been other copies of similar verses at that time.

2- Many Prophets memorize the whole Quran even before its compilation. If such verse was revealed many have knew and memorize the verse

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Kay17: 4:29pm On Oct 08, 2016
@aminusanti

Why should we consider the non corruption of the Quran is proof that it's of divine origin?
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by aminusanti(m): 7:51am On Oct 09, 2016
Kay17:
@aminusanti

Why should we consider the non corruption of the Quran is proof that it's of divine origin?

in what you are about to read if there is any verse/quote that u disagree with you can highlight it and i will provide my proofs for the claims.

MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of ►Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:

►Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "[color]

►John chapter 14 verse 16:
[color=#990000] "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."


►Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

►Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realize that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

►Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".

The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned (quran)".

THE QURAN IS THE WORD OF GOD AND AN UNDENIABLE PROOF FOR MUHAMMAD’S PROPHETHOOD

►[i]The Quran is completely different from all the other books in the world

►The Quran, which he brought, has challenged all mankind with all their literary geniuses and scientists, from the first day of its revelation to the Last Day, to produce a like of it or even a single chapter of it

►The Quran was revealed in 23 years, yet there are not any contradictory points in it

►The Qur’an is beyond compare from the viewpoint of its styles and eloquence

►Prophet Muhammad was unlettered and no one had heard him say even a couple of poetry. However, the Quran also challenged the known experts in poetry and oratory and forced them to surrender

►Despite its apparent simplicity, the Quran has such depths of meaning that everyone from the commonest of people to the most high-ranking scholar, scientist and literary man, finds his share in it

►The Quran describes man with all his physical and spiritual aspects and contains principles to solve all the problems that may appear at any time and in any place concerning all the social, economic, juridical, political and administrative fields of life. Furthermore, it satisfies both the mind and spirit at the same time and guarantees happiness in both worlds.

►The Quran unveils the mystery of man, creation and the universe

►Even though revealed in parts on certain occasions, the Qur’an is equally universal and objective where it deals with particular issues as it is exact and precise where it deals with universal matters

►The Qur’an contains at least the principles of all the branches of knowledge either in summary or detail and not even a single piece of the knowledge it contains has ever been contradicted.

►“As time passes, the Qur’an grows ever younger.”

►The Qur’an addresses and legislates for all in all times

►If Prophet Muhammad had written the Qur’an by himself, he should never have mentioned some incidents concerning him.

►There are answers to many such questions in the Quran that one who does not have an all-encompassing knowledge could not have answered them.

►To claim that Muhammad-God forbid such a thought!- invented the Quran means that Muhammad, who was known as Muhammad the Trustworthy, was-we beg forgiveness for having to narrate such a false claim-the greatest liar and cheat history has ever known.
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 11:12pm On Oct 09, 2016
aminusanti:

sorry for my late reply been very bz lately.

yes i can prove it. do u need the proofs? it will
be a topic on its own.


i didn't say the promises of God in the Bible can be changed. i said promises and prophecies that Allah has made in His revelations could never be changed and they always as occur as He stated in the Bible but the text were badly altered which you people can't deny it too.

"Ibn Kathir states in his commentary on Surah 5:15:
Now has come to you Our Messenger explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over much.) So the Prophet explained where they altered, distorted, changed and lied about Allah. He also ignored much of what they changed, since it would not bring about any benefit if it was explained". (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Source)


Allah has made a promise that the Qur'an would be preserved for us (Surah 15:9). A unique claim not made for any other scripture.
and it is undeniable that Quran today is preserved, free from errors, corruption and alteration unlike other scriptures, there is only one Qur'an wherever u go and the text is the same unlike Bible. Yhe Quran confirmed that bible is corrupt.

Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it… Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (Quran 2:75,79)

There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! (Quran 3:78)

>Qur'an 2:140 They "Conceal a testimony they have from Allah."

>Qur'an 3:79 The Jews "teach the book and read it themselves."

>Qur'an 3:187 The Jews "cast it (Allah's book) "behind their backs"

>Qur'an 4:46 The Jews "alter the words from their places" and "distort the book with their tongues."

>Qur'an 5:13 The Jews "altered the words from their places" and "forgot a good part of the message."

>Qur'an 5:15 The Jews "concealed that which Muhammad had made clear" and Muhammad made clear much which they had "passed over" (in their book)

>Qur'an 5:41 The Jews "alter the words from their places."


Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him was *also* using it as his evidence against the Jews. Yes there were many addition and deletion in the scriptures, they were corrupted, but despite their corruption, they still contained enough truth in them to lead any person to Islam. Thus, had the Jews/ christians followed their own book, they would have had no other choice but to become Muslims because their book still contained enough truth therein to lead a person to Islam.

"The Torah, the Old Testament, and the Gospel, the New testament, still contain some truth and guidance that can be evidence against Jews and Christians. If they implemented their laws, Jews and Christians would believe in the Prophet Muhammad's message, confirming what was sent before him, and thus would follow the guidance and light. Muhammad was sent down with clear evidence to his truthfulness and he followed the path of the Prophets before him, who were sent to the Jews and the Christians."


that's according to your own understanding and interpretation but the real context is Without knowing that the Noble Qur'an claims that the scriptures before it were corrupted by men(2:77-78), you can easily come to the conclusion that the Noble Qur'an confirms the Bible.

However, the Qur’an talks about the True scriptures He has sent to the prophets before Muhammad(pbuh), not the corrupted Bible.



those hadiths are weak and unauthentic
- The narration n your claims no way questions Qur’an infallibility:
Even if the narration/ claims were authentic it no way questions the claim of Qur’an being totally preserved and here are my evidences for this;
1- Generally when a verse was revealed it was written down not by one or two companions but at least seven or more then that. If a goat had eaten a verse of Quran there might had been other copies of similar verses at that time.

2- Many Prophets memorize the whole Quran even before its compilation. If such verse was revealed many have knew and memorize the verse



Allah has made a promise that the Qur'an would be preserved for us (Surah 15:9). A unique claim not made for any other scripture.
and it is undeniable that Quran today is preserved, free from errors, corruption and alteration unlike other scriptures, there is only one Qur'an wherever u go and the text is the same unlike Bible. Yhe Quran confirmed that bible is corrupt.

Errors In Quran
The errors in Quran disqualify the Quran as the word of God, who is perfect and does not make errors. Many of the errors in Quran are self-contradictions that naskh tries to cover up.

But the Quran also has archaeological errors, historical
errors, errors in logic and even in elementary mathematics .
For example, the Quran claims that one night, God took Muhammad to the "al-Aqsa" mosque is in Jerusalem:
"Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our
signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing." - Quran 17:1

The Muslim army conquered Jerusalem in 637 AD and the al-Aqsa mosque was completed in 705 AD. The problem with the above passage in the Quran is thatMuhammad died in 632 AD, which was 5 years before the Muslim army reached
Jerusalem and 73 years before the al-Aqsa mosque was built.

Or consider Quran 20:92-95, which claims that Moses confronted "Aaron" and a "Samaritan" for having made the golden calf for the Israelites while he (Moses) was on Mount Sinai:
"[Moses] said, "O Aaron, what prevented you, when you saw them going astray, from following me? Then have you disobeyed my
order?" [Aaron] said, "O son of my mother, do not seize [me] by my beard or by my head. Indeed, I feared that you would say, 'You caused division among the Children of Israel, and you did not observe [or await] my word.'" [Moses] said, "And what is your case, O Samaritan?" - Quran 20:92-95
Assyria conquered the Jewish northern kingdom in 722 BC, exiled its upper class and brought in conquered people from other lands, who intermarried with the lower class Jews who had been allowed to stay. Their offspring were called "Samaritans" because they occupied the region of "Samaria," which was named after its original owner, "Shemer" (see 1 Kings 16:24 in the Bible). The Jews despised the Samaritans both for being a mixed race and for setting up their own temple to compete against the temple in Jerusalem.

But the golden calf incident near Mount Sinai mentioned in Quran 20:92-95 above took place in 1446 BC, which was 725 years before the first Samaritan was born in 721 BC.

It gets worse. For example, How Old Was Mary When She Had Jesus?
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 11:23pm On Oct 09, 2016
aminusanti:


in what you are about to read if there is any verse/quote that u disagree with you can highlight it and i will provide my proofs for the claims.

MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of ►Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:

►Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "[color]

►John chapter 14 verse 16:
[color=#990000] "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."


►Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

►Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realize that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

►Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".

The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned (quran)".

THE QURAN IS THE WORD OF GOD AND AN UNDENIABLE PROOF FOR MUHAMMAD’S PROPHETHOOD

►[i]The Quran is completely different from all the other books in the world

►The Quran, which he brought, has challenged all mankind with all their literary geniuses and scientists, from the first day of its revelation to the Last Day, to produce a like of it or even a single chapter of it

►The Quran was revealed in 23 years, yet there are not any contradictory points in it

►The Qur’an is beyond compare from the viewpoint of its styles and eloquence

►Prophet Muhammad was unlettered and no one had heard him say even a couple of poetry. However, the Quran also challenged the known experts in poetry and oratory and forced them to surrender

►Despite its apparent simplicity, the Quran has such depths of meaning that everyone from the commonest of people to the most high-ranking scholar, scientist and literary man, finds his share in it

►The Quran describes man with all his physical and spiritual aspects and contains principles to solve all the problems that may appear at any time and in any place concerning all the social, economic, juridical, political and administrative fields of life. Furthermore, it satisfies both the mind and spirit at the same time and guarantees happiness in both worlds.

►The Quran unveils the mystery of man, creation and the universe

►Even though revealed in parts on certain occasions, the Qur’an is equally universal and objective where it deals with particular issues as it is exact and precise where it deals with universal matters

►The Qur’an contains at least the principles of all the branches of knowledge either in summary or detail and not even a single piece of the knowledge it contains has ever been contradicted.

►“As time passes, the Qur’an grows ever younger.”

►The Qur’an addresses and legislates for all in all times

►If Prophet Muhammad had written the Qur’an by himself, he should never have mentioned some incidents concerning him.

►There are answers to many such questions in the Quran that one who does not have an all-encompassing knowledge could not have answered them.

►To claim that Muhammad-God forbid such a thought!- invented the Quran means that Muhammad, who was known as Muhammad the Trustworthy, was-we beg forgiveness for having to narrate such a false claim-the greatest liar and cheat history has ever known.



May Jehovah forgive you for turning his word upside down.
Muhammad claimed that the Bible foretold his prophethood. Today many Muslim apologists claim that the term "brethren" in Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18:18,
could include anyone who is a descendant of Abraham. They believe that since Muhammad was an assumed descendant of Ishmael, Abraham's first son, then Muhammad qualifies as a 'brother' to the Israelites, and is indeed the prophet who
Moses foretold in Deuteronomy 18:18.
The New Testament tells us that Jesus is the prophet Moses foretold (Acts3:22).

Jesus satisfied the requirements to be "like unto Moses". Muhammad did not.

Jesus fulfilled the requirements, Muhammad fails the requirements.

Jesus spoke God's direct words, Muhammad did not speak God's direct words, he spoke a spirit's words.

Jesus spoke with God face to face, Muhammad did not speak with God face to face.

Jesus performed many miracles, Muhammad performed no miracles.

Jesus is the prophet Moses foretold, Muhammad cannot be the prophet Moses foretold.
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by aminusanti(m): 6:49am On Oct 12, 2016
Clementor:


May Jehovah [b]PAUL forgive you for turning his word upside down.[/b]
I only need Almight God's forgiveness sir

Muhammad claimed that the Bible foretold his prophethood. Today many Muslim apologists claim that the term "brethren" in Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18:18,
could include anyone who is a descendant of Abraham. They believe that since Muhammad was an assumed descendant of Ishmael, Abraham's first son, then Muhammad qualifies as a 'brother' to the Israelites, and is indeed the prophet who
Moses foretold in Deuteronomy 18:18.
The New Testament tells us that Jesus is the prophet Moses foretold (Acts3:22).

Jesus satisfied the requirements to be "like unto Moses". Muhammad did not.

Jesus fulfilled the requirements, Muhammad fails the requirements.

Jesus spoke God's direct words, Muhammad did not speak God's direct words, he spoke a spirit's words.

Jesus spoke with God face to face, Muhammad did not speak with God face to face.

Jesus performed many miracles, Muhammad performed no miracles.

Jesus is the prophet Moses foretold, Muhammad cannot be the prophet Moses foretold.

Pls explain to us in what sense was he like moses?? Is moses also begotten son of GOD?? Is like you are trying to introduce me to something that I already knw about on Jesus. I believe in Jesus as a prophet and messiah and believe in all his miracles by GODs permission etc...pls what kind of xtian are you?? Is like u are bypassing Mark, Luke, mathew and john quoting from other sources?



It must be kept in mind, that,a thing should be of such a nature,that it CONVINCES all the class and not ONE class,like 2+2=4 for all the people i.e. for Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, etc.

Now, allow me to deal with this point.If these are the only criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblical personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon them –etc., because they were also ALL"Jews" as well as known by God"face to face,". Why should we not apply this prophecy to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of another?
As far as Miracles are concerned, they do not prove even Prophethood, or whether a man is true or false. Jesus himself said:
"For there shall arisefalse Christs, andfalse prophets, and shall showgreat signs and wonders;insomuchthat, if it were possible, they shall deceive the veryelect."Matthew 24:24
If false prophets and false Christs can perform miraculous feats, then these wonders or miracles do not prove even the geniuses or otherwise, of a prophet.
John the Baptist, according to Jesus, was the greatest of the Israelite prophets. Greater than Moses, David, Solomon, Isaiah and all, not excluding himself– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon them –: in his own words:
"Verily I say unto you, among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist..." (Matthew 11:11)
1.Not excluding Jesus– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon him –: because, was he not born of a woman – Mary– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon her –?

2.The Baptist– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon him –, greater than "all", yet he performed not a single miracle! Miracles are no standards of judging truth and falsehood.

So, you see, Miracles; prove nothing, just nothing. The reality is, thatJesusismost likely UNLIKE Moses– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon them –. In the following, I will give you just a glance of these UNLIKINGS:

"In the FIRST place Jesus is not like Moses, because, according to you people- 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God."Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon them –!
"SECONDLY, according to you people 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD', but Moses did not have to die for the sins of the world."Therefore Jesus is not like Moses– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon them –!"
"THIRDLY, according to you people - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there."Therefore Jesus is not like Moses– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon them –!"
These are just a glance for this write up of mine, almost ‘a full jug’ would be presented to you if needed.

I would like you to keep in mind the following important Prophecy,THAT ONLY ISLAM FULFILLED, in Deuteronomy:

Moses, peace be upon him, prophesied about a future Prophet leading an army of 10,000 Believers:Deuteronomy 33:1-5:

Deuteronomy 33:1-2
1 Now this is the blessing with which Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.
2 And he said: “The Lord came from Sinai, And dawned on them from Seir; He shone forth from Mount Paran, And He came withten thousandsof saints; From His right hand Came a fiery law for them.


The Jews already had the Law of Moses with them. So what is this new Law that GOD Almighty will send? Yet Deuteronomy 33:1-2, speak about a future Law coming from GOD Almighty.The Muslims liberated Mecca and they were 10,000 Believers of Allah Almighty. The New Testament further renews this Prophecy by prophesying it. So this Prophecy WAS NEVER FULFILLED in the Old Testament:

Jude 1:14-15
14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, ALSO PROPHESIED about these men, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes withten thousands of His saints,
15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”

The ONLY WAR that ever took place in all of the Abrahamic Religions’ history that involved precisely an army of 10,000 Believers was the battle of Mecca’s liberation by Prophet Muhammad and his men. Again,the Muslims liberated Mecca and they were 10,000 Believers.


Let us remember that in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews:

"So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you andgiven to people [a nation]who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]."(Matthew 21:43).

Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews. Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews. And the "Kingdom of God" here means THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF GOD on earth to the new nation.

Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by OmoOsanyin: 7:14am On Oct 12, 2016
Clementor:
While some similarities exist between Islam and Christianity (they are both monotheistic religions), for example, their differences are clear-cut, significant, and irreconcilable.
For this article, we will survey the Founders of the Religions and their character.

Islam was founded by an Arab merchant named Muhammed about AD 622. Muhammed claimed to have received a revelation from an angel of God, and, although he initially feared his revelation had come from Satan, Muhammed later claimed to be the last and greatest of all of God’s prophets.
Muhammed had fifteen wives (although he limited other men to four wives apiece) and sanctioned the beating of wives (Sura 4:34). Muhammed was well known for spreading his new religion by force. He commanded, “Fight and slay the Pagans wherever you find them” (Sura 9:5), and he specified the proper way to execute an unbeliever was to cut his throat (Sura 47:4).
Muhammed led raids against caravans to plunder their goods, broke oaths, ordered the murder of those who mocked him, and wiped out the last Jewish tribe in Medina—he killed all the men and enslaved the women and children.
Interestingly, Muhammed acknowledged his own need to seek God’s forgiveness on occasion (Sura 40:55). In stark contrast to the moral depravity of Muhammed.

Jesus Christ was above reproach in every way ( 2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus never married, He defended and honored women ( John 8:1–11), and His law was “love one another” ( John 13:34).
Accordingly, Jesus never assassinated anyone, never beat a woman, never enslaved a child, never broke a promise, and never plundered a caravan.
On the cross, when Jesus was mocked by those nearby, His response was, “Father, forgive them” ( Luke 23:34).
Some muslims remain in islam because they are afraid of their throat been cut even when they know the truth. I pray for GOD to help them.


It appears the many contradictions and confusion amongst Christians have no boundaries; moreso in Nigeria.
Today Christianity is a religion...
Tomorrow Christianity is not a religion but a way of life.

Amongst others, it daily confirms the intrinsic man-made skeletal elements of Christianity. Not God ordained or created. Hence so much variables and inconsistencies.

The 'Truth', the Creator, the Master Architect, Nature
Is constant. The sun always rise in the east, set in the west; there is always day and night, etc, etc.


Hmmmm, make up your mind folks...
Isn't it time you abandoned Christianity, Islamic, and all other man-made religious fantasies and truly come to God?

Which way fellas?
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 11:52am On Oct 12, 2016
aminusanti:
I only need Almight God's forgiveness sir
AMEN!

Pls explain to us in what sense was he like moses?? Is moses also begotten son of GOD??

Moses – The first mediator
Jesus – The final mediator

Moses was born as a Hebrew
Jesus was born as a Hebrew

Moses was chosen by God to be a leader
Jesus was chosen by God to be a leader

Moses was born while his people were suffering under a cruel leader. (Pharaoh)
Jesus was born while his people were suffering under a cruel leader. (Herod)

Moses hid in Egypt as a child.
Jesus hid in Egypt as a child.

The leader of the land that Moses was born into tried to kill all of the babies when he was born.
The leader of the land that Jesus was born into tried to kill all of the babies when He was born.

Moses turned water into blood.
Jesus turned water into wine.

Moses died on a hill.
Jesus died on a hill.

Moses fasted 40 days and faced a spiritual crisis on a mountain
Jesus fasted 40 days and faced a spiritual crisis on a mountain.

Moses told people about the need for a Passover lamb.
Jesus became the Passover lamb.

Moses founded a new religion
Jesus founded a new religion

Moses communicated directly with God
Jesus communicated directly with God

Moses performed miracles
Jesus performed miracles

Moses was a law giver – gave the ten commandments
Jesus was a law giver – gave the great commandment.

Moses was hated by the ruling party (Egyptians)
Jesus was hated by the ruling party (Pharisees)

Moses had brothers and sisters who misunderstood him.
Jesus had brothers and sisters who misunderstood him.

Moses chose 12 leaders to follow.
Jesus chose 12 leaders to follow.

Moses gave his people a new identity as a people.
Jesus gave his people a new identity as a people.

Moses had followers who strayed from his teachings.
Jesus had followers who strayed from his teachings.

Moses is arguably the lead figure of the Old Testament.
Jesus is the lead figure of the New Testament.

Moses taught his followers how to pray.
Jesus taught his followers how to pray.

Moses chose people to carry on when he was leaving.
Jesus chose people to carry on when he was leaving.

Moses led his people to the promised land.
Jesus leads his people to the promised land.

Moses sent 12 spies to Canaan so he could bring people to the promised land.
Jesus sent 12 disciples to the world so he could bring people to the promised land.

Moses appointed 70 rulers over Israel
Jesus appointed 70 disciples to the nations.

The people picked up stones to stone Moses but they did not succeed.
The people picked up stones to stone Jesus, but they did not succeed.

Moses controlled the waters of the Red Sea
Jesus controlled the Sea of Galilee

Moses brought living water out of the Rock
Jesus brings living water to all of his believers.

The face of Moses shown with glory on Mount Sinai.
The face of Jesus shown with glory on the mount of Transfiguration.

Moses lifted the brazen serpent up in the wilderness to heal people
Jesus was lifted up on the cross to heal us from our own sins.

Moses was a shepherd
Jesus was the good shepherd

Moses subdued an attacking army by raising his arms high on the top of a hill. (with two other people)
Jesus subdued sin and death with arms raised high on a hill. (with two other people)

Moses said another prophet would come (Jesus)
Jesus said another would come (Holy Spirit)

Those who did not follow Moses died in the wilderness because of their lack of faith.
Those who refused to follow Jesus died in the siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Jesus had warned them it was coming, and history shows that the Christians left right before the siege started because of the remembrance of the words of Jesus. Those who did not believe Jesus stayed and were either killed or sold to slavery.

Moses fed thousands supernaturally with bread.
Jesus fed thousands supernaturally with bread.

Moses took a gentile bride
Jesus took a gentile bride (the church)

Moses led the Israelites in a victory song after the victory in Egypt.
This song will be repeated at the end as a victory song for Jesus. (see Rev. 15:2-3)

There is a long period of silence in the story of Moses from the time he was a child until adulthood.
There is a long period of silence in the story of Jesus from the time he was a child until adulthood.

Moses showed compassion to a woman getting water at a well.
Jesus showed compassion to a woman getting water at a well.

Moses’ mission was to redeem Israel from slavery to Egypt
Jesus’ mission was to redeem mankind from slavery of sin.

Moses was loved and supported by his sister Miriam (which is Miryam in Hebrew)
Jesus was loved and supported in his ministry by His mother Mary (which is also Miryam in Hebrew)

Moses gave God’s law on a mountain.
Jesus gave the new law from the Mount of the Beatitudes. (sermon on the mount.) e.t.c

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 12:19pm On Oct 12, 2016
Now, allow me to deal with this point.If these are the only criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblical personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon them –etc., because they were also ALL"Jews" as well as known by God"face to face,". Why should we not apply this prophecy to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of another?
It is amazing to hear some of the claims of Muslims that the Bible actually predicts the coming of the prophet Muhammad. These Muslims believe that the Bible teaches this based on such passages in the Qur’an as Surah 7:157. However, the passages from the Bible that these Muslims appeal to are always taken out of context. One of these popular passages is Deuteronomy 18:15-18. 1
Deuteronomy 18:15-18
“The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear, 16 according to all you desired of the LORD your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, nor let me see this great fire anymore, lest I die.’ 17 And the LORD said to me: ‘What they have spoken is good. 18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him (NKJV)."
In spite of the claims of Muslims, there are many reasons why this passage does not refer to prophet Muhammad.
“Brethren” Refers to Jews

First, given the context of Deuteronomy 18, the term “brethren” is referring to their fellow Israelites. Deuteronomy 18:2, says “They shall have no inheritance among their brethren.” Also, elsewhere in the book of Deuteronomy the term “brethren” refers to fellow Israelites ( Deuteronomy 17:15). Since the term “brethren” refers to Israelites, why would God raise up a prophet from the enemies of Israel, the Arabs?
Muhammad from Ishmael
Second, Muhammad came from Ishmael, as Muslims admit, but heirs to the Jewish throne came from Isaac. The Torah states, “My covenant I will establish with Isaac,” ( Genesis 17:21). Later, God repeats the same message, “In Isaac your seed shall be called,” ( Genesis 21:12).
Prophetic Line through Isaac
Third, the Qur’an teaches that the prophetic line came through Isaac, not Ishmael: “And We bestowed on him Isaac and Jacob, and We established the Prophethood and the Scripture among his seed” (29:27). However, Yusuf Ali adds the word Abraham in the translation to make it read: “We gave (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob, and ordained among his progeny Porphethood and Revelation.” By adding Abraham, it is possible to include Muhammad in the prophetic line! However, Abraham is not found in the Arabic text of the Qur’an which Muslims consider to be perfectly correct!
Jesus Fulfilled Deuteronomy 18:15-18 Perfectly
Fourth, Jesus fulfilled Deuteronomy 18 perfectly.

(1) He came from his Jewish brethren ( Galatians 4:4).

(2) Deuteronomy 18:18 says, “He shall speak to them all that I [God] command Him.” Jesus said, “I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things” ( John 8:28; cf. John 12:49).Muhammed spoke the word of a spirit whom he claim to be an angel not even God himself.

Finally, (3) Jesus called himself a “prophet” ( Luke 13:33) and the people considered him to be a prophet ( Matthew 21:11; Luke 7:16; 24:19; John 4:19; 6:14; 7:40; 9:17).
Therefore, given the above evidence, it is Jesus, not Muhammad who fulfilled this prophecy in Deuteronomy 18.
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 12:35pm On Oct 12, 2016
in his own words:
"Verily I say unto you, among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist..." (Matthew 11:11)
1.Not excluding Jesus– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon him –: because, was he not born of a woman – Mary– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon her –?
2.The Baptist– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon him –, greater than "all", yet he performed not a single miracle! Miracles are no standards of judging truth and falsehood.
So, you see, Miracles; prove nothing, just nothing. The reality is, thatJesusismost likely UNLIKE Moses– peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon them –. In the following, I will give you just a glance of these UNLIKINGS:
John also said this about our Lord Jesus Christ " the one who is coming after me, whose sandal straps I am not worthy to untie."(John 1:27)

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Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 1:06pm On Oct 12, 2016
Jude 1:14-15
14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, ALSO PROPHESIED about these men, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes withten thousands of His saints,
15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints,
This prophecy will have preliminary fulfillment when the Lord returns after the Tribulation at the Second Coming.
1:15
to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds
The word “ungodly” occurs four times in this one verse. The word “all” indicates the universality of judgment on all ungodly. “Ungodly” refers to doctrinal fallacy. The Lord will execute judgment on false teachers.
which they have committed in an ungodly way,
The word “ungodly” is not a synonym for immoral.Religionists might be moral but not godly. Many nice, religious people are without God—at least, without the true God.
and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
God will convict the ungodly for their false teachings—”spoken against Him.” It is the tendency of false teachers to speak against Christ and His finished work on the cross.
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 1:11pm On Oct 12, 2016
Jude 1:14-15
14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, ALSO PROPHESIED about these men, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes withten thousands of His saints,
15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints,
This prophecy will have preliminary fulfillment when the Lord returns after the Tribulation at the Second Coming.
1:15
to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds
The word “ungodly” occurs four times in this one verse. The word “all” indicates the universality of judgment on all ungodly. “Ungodly” refers to doctrinal fallacy. The Lord will execute judgment on false teachers.
which they have committed in an ungodly way,
The word “ungodly” is not a synonym for immoral.Religionists might be moral but not godly. Many nice, religious people are without God—at least, without the true God.
and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
God will convict the ungodly for their false teachings—”spoken against Him.” It is the tendency of false teachers to speak against Christ and His finished work on the cross.
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 1:17pm On Oct 12, 2016
I would like you to keep in mind the following important Prophecy,THAT ONLY ISLAM FULFILLED, in Deuteronomy:
Moses, peace be upon him, prophesied about a future Prophet leading an army of 10,000 Believers:Deuteronomy 33:1-5:
Deuteronomy 33:1-5 is all about blessing, read it well and understand it
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Clementor(m): 1:48pm On Oct 12, 2016
Let us remember that in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews:
"So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to people [a nation]who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]."(Matthew 21:43).
Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews. Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews. And the "Kingdom of God" here means THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF GOD on earth to the new nation.
point of correction, the nation in question was not mentioned, during the time of Our Lord Jesus Christ there were nations like Romans,Greek,Gentiles etc and not just the arab.
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by Kay17: 10:50am On Oct 15, 2016
aminusanti:


in what you are about to read if there is any verse/quote that u disagree with you can highlight it and i will provide my proofs for the claims.

MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of ►Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:

►Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "[color]

►John chapter 14 verse 16:
[color=#990000] "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."


►Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

►Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realize that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

►Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".

The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned (quran)".

THE QURAN IS THE WORD OF GOD AND AN UNDENIABLE PROOF FOR MUHAMMAD’S PROPHETHOOD

►[i]The Quran is completely different from all the other books in the world

►The Quran, which he brought, has challenged all mankind with all their literary geniuses and scientists, from the first day of its revelation to the Last Day, to produce a like of it or even a single chapter of it

►The Quran was revealed in 23 years, yet there are not any contradictory points in it

►The Qur’an is beyond compare from the viewpoint of its styles and eloquence

►Prophet Muhammad was unlettered and no one had heard him say even a couple of poetry. However, the Quran also challenged the known experts in poetry and oratory and forced them to surrender

►Despite its apparent simplicity, the Quran has such depths of meaning that everyone from the commonest of people to the most high-ranking scholar, scientist and literary man, finds his share in it

►The Quran describes man with all his physical and spiritual aspects and contains principles to solve all the problems that may appear at any time and in any place concerning all the social, economic, juridical, political and administrative fields of life. Furthermore, it satisfies both the mind and spirit at the same time and guarantees happiness in both worlds.

►The Quran unveils the mystery of man, creation and the universe

►Even though revealed in parts on certain occasions, the Qur’an is equally universal and objective where it deals with particular issues as it is exact and precise where it deals with universal matters

►The Qur’an contains at least the principles of all the branches of knowledge either in summary or detail and not even a single piece of the knowledge it contains has ever been contradicted.

►“As time passes, the Qur’an grows ever younger.”

►The Qur’an addresses and legislates for all in all times

►If Prophet Muhammad had written the Qur’an by himself, he should never have mentioned some incidents concerning him.

►There are answers to many such questions in the Quran that one who does not have an all-encompassing knowledge could not have answered them.

►To claim that Muhammad-God forbid such a thought!- invented the Quran means that Muhammad, who was known as Muhammad the Trustworthy, was-we beg forgiveness for having to narrate such a false claim-the greatest liar and cheat history has ever known.



First of all if you are going to quote the bible for support you must accept the bible's divine validity and its consequent incorruptible nature. That's a precondition you can not do without.

Second where can i find the requirements that state this and that must be what a Quran must have before it becomes valid. In other words what is the source of the requirements for the Quran"s validity.

Third isn't there a sentiment value to the Quran that people will feel repulsed by any attempt to discredit the holy book?
Re: Why Christianity Is The Only True Religion And Not Islam? by dabrightt: 1:25pm On Oct 15, 2016
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Islam is derived from the word salaam meaning peace. Submission to the Will of Allah (swt) i.e. God Almighty.

Meaning of ‘Muslim’ – One who submits his will to Allah. Islam is not a new religion found by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Jesus also submit his will to God

"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]


Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account. Quran 13:19

All prophet of God are Muslims, the verse say you change Your scripture out of jealous animosity. After the Bible revealed by God has been altered, after Jesus depart, then it's no longer Islam. Islam is pure with no alteration. Jesus depart a Muslim and He shall come back a Muslim.


O People of the Scripture, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you witness [to their truth]? O People of the Scripture, why do you confuse the truth with falsehood and conceal the truth while you know [it]? Quran 70-71


Hope the above explain that to you.

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah ]. And he was not of the polytheists.


God himself will open your eye to know the truth else it will be open in hell..

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