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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by armpit: 1:46pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
op, thank God you said you have read the bible so I believe you came across were it was written that- 1). "for it is appointed unto man once to die and after that comes judgement". You also did read that- 2)."Lazarus died and went to heaven while the rich man died and went to hell and when the rich man looked up, he saw Lazarus sitting at the bossom of Abraham. The rich man cried to Abraham to permit Lazarus to dip his finger into water and drop it on his tongue but Abraham replied saying- BETWEEN WERE YOU ARE AND HERE, IS A DIP PIT THAT NOBODY CAN CROSS" 3)."The rich man again demanded that he should be allowed to go back to the world to tell his relatives of how hot and uncomfortable hell fire is but Abraham also replied saying- THERE ARE PREACHERS AND PROPHETS ON EARTH...." OP, please their is no repentance in hell. The earth is where you have all your chance. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by ElsonMorali: 1:47pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Berlynn: ![]() Well nobody currently on earth has been to hell, so experiential knowledge may not help us here. I guess what I can do is give you a summary of what I think to be true. I'm Catholic by the way. ![]() Hell is not a place God sends one to when they die. Rather hell is a voluntary choice of the individual who while on earth rejected God and his Christ and his commandments. People in hell are not there against their wish they are there because it's their choice. The kind of life you live here on earth will determine where you end up. So it's more like you pronouncing that judgment for yourself. Hell is basically a total separation from God. It's not a place. It's a state of being. So when a human being closes his eyes to death here on earth, he opens them in eternity. At that moment his judgment is served. If he opens his eyes in eternity and he beholds God, he is in heaven. But if he opens his eyes and doesn't see God he is in hell. Or souls were created to have a great affinity for God, somewhat like a metal and magnet. The reason why we can't feel it here on earth is because our flesh and the creature comforts we all chase around act like insulators. (That's why you fast when you want your prayers answered). Once your soul is free of your flesh, signified by death, it feels a terrible hunger for its Creator for whom it was created in the first place. This infinitely unbearable hunger is satisfied when the soul opens its eyes and sees God and is united to its Creator. The soul in hell can never see God and the terrible hunger and thirst for God continues for all eternity. Note that it's not because God isn't there for it to see, but because the soul went to eternity spiritually dead. It's just like a blind man. He can't see the sun. Yet the sun is shining in the sky. I hope someone read my epistle. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Justmary06(f): 1:48pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Berlynn: The truth according to the bible, no one is presently in hell. Judgement has not taken place. What we have now is souls trapped inbetween. The ones who wer godly and dead now are just asleep. In revelations, Jesus reveled to John that the dead would be judge first with only those souls asleep ascending to heaven. Other souls are facing hell. Such soul cannot gain forgiveness. Then after, those living will be judged but the ones who do not make it will be given second chance. And that's tribulation before the souls would be separated again. You could read it, its pretty interesting. For instance, I stumbled on this is morning...Revelation 20:1-3 "Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while." |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by analice107: 1:52pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
felixdanielthed:You are also dumb, move along. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by analice107: 1:55pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Benesth:Amen sir. 1 Like |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Jethrolite(m): 1:58pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Berlynn:If you are planning to go to hell first just let us know. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Sunglow: 1:59pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Jesuobu:Did I hear u say "No one knows" Stop deceiving yourself, the scripture is explicit on this subject. Sinners will go to hell,and hell its self will be thrown into the lake of fire, with all its occupants. God is not unjust to leave us without answers to the life after.Rightous souls go to heaven, sinners end up in the hell first, then lake of fire after their judgment. He that has an ear let him hear what the Spirit is saying. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by NobleG1(m): 2:03pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Berlynn: There's no f*ucking Hell or Heaven! That an ancient book (bible which has been modified numerous times), written by illiterate goat herders, said so doesn't mean it's true! |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Sunglow: 2:08pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
pr0blem:Everybody have been saved LEGALLY, BUT EACH AND EVERY SOUL NEEDS TO ACCEPT THAT SALVATION VITALLY. Now if any SOUL rejcts the Salavation wrought in Christ, and eventually dies, that SOUL will go to hell, not as a result of their SINS cos their SINS has been taken care of, but as a result of NOT ACCEPTING SALAVATION IN CHRIST. God gave up His, sent Him to hell that we should not end up in hell, but if one refuses the offer God has proposed in Christ, then hell shall be their eternity. God is too good, and SALAVATION in Christ is the antantidote for the Sinner Man. No other way. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Jeromejnr(m): 2:15pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
NobleG1: Hmm! You sound really sure. So enlighten us why we should believe you (not an illiterate goat herder but a basic and common Nairalander) on the Non- existence of the spiritual kingdoms. What proof do you base your disbelief on? Where do you draw such conlusion from? Is it just an assumption? A self denial? Or the truth? Enlighten us with reason. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by jerrywill(m): 2:16pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
OK... Let me give my imput here..... First.....hell as it is used in the old testament was not described as a place with fire.....it is thesame as death,shoel,hades,etc. Second.....hell as used in the case of Lazerus.....was one with fire....thesame as lake of fire as used by John in Revelation and Jesus in his teachings. Thirdly.....going by what I said earlier.....hell or hellfire or lake of fire is no place for repentance, why?? This is because there is no repentance in the grave as stated in the bible. Forthly.....some guys will be saying, 'why then will hell be cast into the lake of fire??'......yes....the hell as stated in this contest in Revelation is death, remember that hell is death and death will give out its dead for judging before being thrown itself to the lake of fire... In all....THERE IS NO REPENTANCE IN HELL..... |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 2:17pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
StunchLord:And my God will surprise your stupid head.....you will regret it |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by analice107: 2:18pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
KingAdegoke: You are not making any sense. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by brandon180(m): 2:23pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
smh vigorously for all these atheists, that don't believe in God talk less of heaven n hell...d way una go burn Ehn...I Go siddon for heaven dey laff.... FYI all dese Jehovah witnesses shouting there is no hell....ur founder is there in hell suffering....if una like no change....... ANYONE THAT SAYS THERE IS NO GOD AND DOES NOT BELEIVE IN ETERNITY IS A FOOL.. .. #peace 1 Like |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by sekundosekundo: 2:38pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Berlynn:Why will you disobey Him?. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Charly68: 2:40pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
No forgiveness after death : Hebrews 9:27 (KJV) 27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by smileyoo: 2:43pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
this doctrine of eternal hell fire is so contradictory, to the nature of eternal God of love & mercy psalm 138:2. what will God gain by allowing eternal punishment of souls, even though wicked? especially when such punishment can't serve any purposeful lesson to the wicked for he has been eternally condemned. or could it be that this God is more vengeful than we humans? because i can't even imagine accepting, my worst offenders to burn in hell forever, without timeframe. After producing a toxic product you destroy it & make use of the quality ones. honestly there is more to God that even the best pastor can not explain. am just a learner, what do i know? 1 Like |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by nkechiben(f): 3:11pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Berlynn: There's no second chance for a dead person. See! For you to make heaven is when you're alive and accept Jesus Christ as you're personal Lord and Savior. If you're did not do that till you die, there's no repentance in the grave. No remedy for you. So once you're died without Christ you're gone to hell. So receive Christ now that you're still alive. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Edelweiss44: 3:13pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Berlynn: You certainly don't know Jesus! If you did, you should have known and believed when Jesus said "heaven and earth may pass away but not one jot in his word". If there was any possibility of people in hell escaping or being forgiven, then why would Jesus waste His time preaching for people to avoid hell at all cost, even if it means cutting off one's hands or legs to avoid ending up in hell? You need to go and read Mark 9:43 - 48 and tell me if Jesus was joking when He clearly made the explicit statements there. Are you the owner of your life or the creator of hell or the creator of heaven and earth to determine what happens to people in hell or not? The creator clearly states something unambiguously in His word about hell, and you an ordinary creation of His now thinks the creator must "fit into your description/idea of what the creator must be like". Jesus is Lord, and He owes you no explanation of what He decides to do, whether you like it or not. Don't fool yourself with human philosophy by thinking God will change what He said in His word about life & death, heaven & hell, only to discover later when you stand before Him in judgement that God is not bound by your views of what you think. He is God and sovereign, you can't change that 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by nkechiben(f): 3:14pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
[quote author=Berlynn post=49796741] Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness? Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption." That doesn't seem too Christian lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them? The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven [/qu NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by nkechiben(f): 3:21pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! WHY? Read the account of the Rich man and Lazarus in the book of (Luke 16:19-31) you'll get the answer better. Thanks |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Aaronsrod: 3:28pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by TrajansKong: 3:31pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Benesth: Truly, a Heavenly vision! Your two beautiful hearts, souls and minds ruling together at Gods right hand for all time. So hard have you and analice107 toiled for this. Now your time of glory draws nigh! Selah 1 Like
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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by billyG(m): 3:44pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Ma own question is if satan decided to Repent & turn a new leaf will God 4give him?since he is a merciful,all 4given God. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 4:03pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
analice107: See...God will bless you....let them know!!! |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Adminisher: 4:04pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
billyG: Satan is not man. Salvation exists only for mankind. As for he'll, there is another interesting standpoint. With God there is almost no chronology because he is timeless. The future, present and past are happening at the same time to him. He is Alpha and Omega. Very hard to understand but biblical. Jesus Christ died and went into hell to preach to condemned souls because it would have been unjust for souls born before his coming not to partake of salvation. The way I interpret it is as follows; if you are a sinner you are already in hell but because you are time dependent in your life on earth it is not manifesting physically. It is the intensity of the pain that you will experience physically which is already happening in the spirit that makes God have mercy on you that you mages you meet a preacher, a friend , an intercessor that brings you to him. Believe me, past, present and future are happening at once in God's viewpoint. That is why people call SIN a state of being not acts that you commit. If you don't have Christ you are a sinner |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by ikemesit4477: 4:04pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Berlynn:Then repent now ........OR! |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 4:14pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
analice107:I don't like you. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by happydavies(f): 4:29pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
StunchLord:I just dey laugh u |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by IBEXY(m): 4:30pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
MrsPhyno:There goes another issue. Even when I keep my nose clean, I still end up in hell. Even if am a 1 year old child who died in a war zone? Or a child who stole a tiny candy bar. This reasoning is human and is fundamentally flawed and goes against everything that makes the world a beautiful place - diversity. Diversity in opinion. Diversity is species. Even God made different animals and gave us the gift of having our personal opinions and the capacity to reason. Only 31.50% of the world population is Christians: ie people who believe in Jesus. You mean to say billions of people represented by the remaining 68.5% will go to hell? Damn! Hell must have lots of accommodation space. MrsPhyno:This is another issue. We dare not question the word of God - even though the Bible has gone through several editions - manipulated by corrupt people to their own selfish end. People's interpretation has so polluted simple reasoning to the extent that even a five year old will know this whole thing does not make sense. MrsPhyno:Though that was intended as a pun. I can tell you there was really a council of elders who decided what books will be in the bible and what portions they needed to edit to suite their own selfish ends. Google it -Google it: "Council of Nicaea". Then Google the emperor Constantine - what a wonderful man he was. ![]() MrsPhyno:Would you accept my facts if I quoted the Koran? I bet you will not. Only the bible is the truth. ![]() MrsPhyno:Stealing is sin right? If one dies while remaining in sin, they head straight for hell. Is that not what Christianity preaches? If by your analogy God will consider the age of the child and spare him, then he must be sending the grown man to hell? Otherwise the process is not justice - its biased. MrsPhyno:I thought sin is sin? I needed to know how God would treat a child that stole a candy bar You still have not told me. Maybe he has a cooler part of hell for kids ![]() MrsPhyno: At least we are better than God. Humans know the difference between children and adults. I still think this is you trying to rationalize things. Who told you hell has a juvenile section? ![]() MrsPhyno: Who told you God segregates adults from children? Have you not read about Sodom and Gomorrah plus other places conquered by men supposedly under God's influence. Have you not read where he told them to kill everyone: Women, children, animals? Have you not read how he visits sins upon children up to many generations? MrsPhyno: Absolutely not. Am here to ask if a child who stole a candy bar will go to hell. You have not answered me. Instead you are telling me how we as humans treat child and adult criminals. It appears humans are much more compassionate than God from all your analogy. MrsPhyno:Are you calling God looney? If your theory about giving special considerations to kids does not exist in the bible, then you must mean God is bonkers? or he is outright mean? |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by NobleG1(m): 4:35pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Jeromejnr: Read this: http://listverse.com/2013/03/23/10-reasons-for-man-to-leave-religion-behind/ |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by kingsjoe2020: 4:38pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Bros there is no repentance in the grave and repentance and faith in christ are the two arms that will hold on to Gods mercy and will make a soul escape everlasting hell.God never made that place for any man but for the devil and his angels jesus died to remove and save you from that place having taken upon himself your punishment for sin.There is no mercy in hell bro no water torment for all eternity so lets accept Gods plan for escape and run to jesus |
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