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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 7:30am On Oct 03, 2016 |
solite3 Hehehehe , analice107 is an apostate . ![]() why not answer this , if such a place exist why is it that none of those who died and were raised by Jesus in your own bible give tales of hell ? |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Wilgrea7(m): 8:03am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Aaronsrod:oga sharap abeg |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Wilgrea7(m): 8:07am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Smallville10: bro u r right.. but God will only show mercy to those who show others mercy |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 8:12am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Wilgrea7:finally someone sayin something reasonable |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Wilgrea7(m): 8:29am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Smallville10: bro don't mind them... they claim they know yet they don't study the bible. mercy prevaileth against judgement. mercy is given to those who give mercy.. God is just |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by agentofchange1(m): 8:41am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Berlynn: Hello dear , I once thought of this too but sad to say , God cannot lie , he can't change/bend his standards for any man . Psalms 9:17 " The sinners shall be turn into hell and all the nations that forget God. We shouldn't be thinking of been forgiven or if any such chance exist in the first place rather we should on our parts do what the scriptures comands ( " love the lord thy God ,with all thy heart, with all thy might and with all thy Soul " ![]() You see My dear , no amount of cry or plead can save a soul from hell , he /she is doomed for ever . If God now allow Sinners from hell to come to heaven with their dirty hearts. ( killers , liars , thiefs , cheats. E.t c ) how do you think heaven would look like , don't you think its will be unfair been that other folks who all their live strived , obeyed the word of God was faithful to him and loved him and through his grace they made it to heaven .? Those in hell crying for mercy and forgiveness are doing so only because the horrible toture they are Experiencing. Not because they are truely remorseful about the their deeds not because they really love God. Its all because of fear not love. . The bible says thou shall. LOVE THE LORD THY GOD .... NOT THY SHALL FEAR THE LORD THY GOD ...... ITS NOT EASY TO ENTER HEAVEN , ITS SO TOUGH , After accepting him (Jesus) into your heart as lord and savior , surrender ALL to him , pray for a willing heart to summit And to love him always, to Put God above. Anything. In this world. ..then keep on in this fashion. .. till he comes to take you home...... I pray and desire to see you in heaven dear , lets strife together ....and by his grace we shall make it ...AMEN.!! God bless you.. #shalom 1 Like |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 9:28am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Wilgrea7:thank u. True... I hope they study d bible more and not read it |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by NnaNna4(m): 10:48am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Peacefullove:Hebrew 10:5 |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
happydavies:why? Wetin I do? |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by dolphinheart(m): 12:41pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Let us scrutinise what you posted just4now:job said : Douay-Rheims Bible(job 14: 13) Who will grant me this, that thou mayest protect me in hell, and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a. time when thou wilt remember me? All believers who refuse to learn obedience while on earth will have to go to hell to learn it because God doesn't want rebellion in Heaven again.if disobedient believers go to hell, where do unbelievers who are not disobedient go. Secondly where do believers who are obedient go if not hell My heart aches for fellow believers who ignore truth of the Bible rather they prefers lies told by satanic pastors.King James Version Re 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. pls explain the bolded above, does it mean that everyone does not go hell , that some go to the sea and some to death? does it mean that those who die at sea do not go to hell? This is the only proof to prove If you are a true Christian because if you are a genuine believer you would have known the basis of Christianity which is "LOVE ONE ANOTHER".but that holding place will also be thrown into the lake of fire, why? They never learn obedience through things they suffered this speaks volumes of why God forgives sins but not it's consequences. Through the consequences you suffer you are to learn not to disobey again but failure to learn is catastrophic.can you provide verses that surr port your assumption of demons being task masters in hell? I employ, if you want to escape hell altogether when you hear His voice harden not your heart rather obey Him thus you may enter His rest otherwise there is no rest for you after death.can you provide some verses for me to read, expecially the one that states hell is Satan's domain? Learn to obey and follow directions of the Holy Spirit never do anything without hearing from God once he's spoken please obey Him that's how to be led by Holy Spirit. Christian are supposed to be spiritual don't tell me you can't hear His voice meaning you don't have Him or you are lazy.pls ill like to ask, what goes to hell, is it the spirit, body or soul, 2 of the three mentioned or the whole three. pls if the 3 don't go to hell, where does the rest go? |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 12:50pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
NnaNna4: sorry, how does this correlate with the lady's position about those in hellfire been given a new body . a blatant lie she can't defend. ? or you telling me Jesus in that Hebrew 10 vs 5 was in hellfire and a body was prepared for him ? ![]() |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 12:58pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Psam91: What about barren women (I'm not referring to those who had their fallopian tubes removed halfway), and children suffering from various disabilities? What of blind Bathemeus in the bible who was blind from birth? Please I need a good explanation to that effect. The apple is not literally an apple. Then What was it? It was not an apple, but a fruit still, right? Cause I read the tree God commanded them to not eat of its fruit was in the middle of the garden and I don't remember the writer saying that portion of the bible was in a figurative sense. Satan is a pre-adamic creature, an angel before the great war that ended up making him a fallen angel, only reason why God didn't destroy him completely was in the hopes that one day satan will be remorseful and apologize for his sins. But pride, etc etc This is not the answer to my question. Perharps you didn't get it. But I'll put it to you again, since all of heavens and its beings were holy, how could lucifer conceive wrong thoughts? And why does it have to be satan? Is God so stupid that he didn't reckon the possibility of satan corrupting humans, after all he left satan to roam free? Or he lacked the ability to see the future? What kind of a God is he? Suit yourself.Yeah. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 1:04pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
thunderbabs:Lol. I no fit laugh abeg. Was John the baptist not obedient enough? |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 2:34pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
SHALOM! Eazybay: DON'T ssek BOOKS- seek YAHSHUA! . JOSHUA 1:8. 8. This Book of the Law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way Prosperous, and then thou shalt have Good Success." . JOSHUA 1:8. 8. This Book of the Law hall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way Prosperous, and then thou shalt have Good Success." . PSALM 1:1-6. Blessed is the man that walketh not in the Counsel of the Ungodly, nor standeth in the Way of Sinners, nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful. 2. But his delight is in The Law of The LORD; and in His Law doth he meditate day and night. 3. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4. The Ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5.Therefore the Ungodly shall not stand in The Judgment, nor Sinners in the Congregation of the Righteous. 6. For The LORD knoweth the Way of the Righteous: but the Way of the Ungodly shall perish. . PSALM 119:97-105. 97. [MEM.] O how love I Thy Law! It is my Meditation all the day. 98. Thou through Thy Commandments hast made me Wiser than mine enemies: for They are ever with me. 99.I have more Understanding than all my teachers for Thy Testimonies are my Meditation. 100. I understand more than the Ancients, because I keep Thy Precepts. 101. I have refrained my feet from every Evil Way, that I might keep Thy Word. 102. I have not departed from Thy Judgments: for Thou hast Taught me. 103. How sweet are Thy Words unto my taste! Yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth! 104. Through Thy Precepts I get Understanding: therefore I hate every False Way. 105. [NUN.] Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Former Full Gospel Preacher, KENNETH COPELAND once told this Testimony |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 2:54pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
SHALOM! Peacefullove: HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE WHILE THEIR BODIES WERE DEAD? . JOHN 12:9-11. 9. Much people of the Jews therefore knew that he was there: and they came not for Jesus' sake only, but that they might see Lazarus also, whom he had raised from the dead. 10. But the chief priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death; 11. Because that by reason of him many of the Jews went away, and Believed on Jesus. A PERSON WHO HAS A SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE INVOLVING GREATER POWER THAN THEY POSSESS, THEMSELVES, ON EARTH CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT EXPERIENCE. To access those memories, you have to access that same Spiritual Power Level again. This is what LUCID DREAMING Training is for. [See: THE SECOND RING OF POWER, by Carlos Castaneda THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.] THE BIBLE is from THE TRUE RELIGION: instead of diverting attention from the main character with trivial details about every person Healed, Exorcised, or Raised from the Dead, The Bible just BOOKMARKS Events. If you need to know more, you ask Yahweh God to show you incidents in the Time Period in question. . JOHN 16:12-15. 12 “I have yet many Things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13. "However when He, The Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all Truth; for He shall not speak of Himself, but whatsoever He shall hear, (that) shall He speak; and He will show you Things to come. 14. "He shall glorify Me, for He shall receive of Mine, and shall shew (it) unto you. 15. "All Things that The Father hath are Mine; therefore I said 'THAT HE SHALL TAKE OF MINE, AND SHALL SHEW (IT) UNTO YOU.' " |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 4:11pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
SHALOM! pr0blem: WHERE DID YAHSHUA TEACH HIS DISCIPLES TO LAUGH AT OTHERS? . LUKE 6:20-26. 20. And he lifted up his eyes on his Disciples, and Said, "Blessed be ye Poor: for yours is The Kingdom of God. 21. "Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh. 22. "Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as Evil, for the Son of Man's sake. 23. "Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for Joy: for, behold, your Reward is Great in Heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto The Prophets. 24. "But woe unto you that are rich! For ye have received your Consolation. 25. "Woe unto you that are full! For ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! For ye shall mourn and weep. 26. "Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! For so did their fathers to the False Prophets." IT WOULD BE A GREAT SHAME ON ME, IF IGNORANT DUNCES, SUCH AS YOURSELF, WERE TO PRAISE ME! The audacity is quite ridiculous sir. I'm not sorry for putting it out to you. The revelation(s)/understanding of scripture is not exclusive to you. [size=48pt]PROVE IT![/size] DON'T JUST TALK RUBBISH. If you have Knowledge SHOW PEOPLE, that they may BENEFIT! If you know any other valid Teacher, TELL US THEIR NAMES! Whom have you helped, railingly accusing your Elder and Better? Where are your websites? How many Forums and Groups have you been kicked out of? How many Death-Threats have you received? You really need to take doses of chill pills People are DYING, because they don't know what I know. You say "TAKE DOSES OF CHILL PILLS?" Where would you be today, if the martyrs of the past had just "TAKEN DOSES OF CHILL-PILLS?" I am not doing this to make MYSELF comfortable- but to make THOSE WORTHY comfortable. You are UNWORTHY. . Even Paul said we know in parts, and our visions are as like a smoky screen. That is HIS Knowledge, and YOUR Knowledge. Paul's Vision and YOUR Vision. Not MY Knowledge, and not MY Vision. You say you speak with knowledge, what exactly do you even know? really? Hey, I'm only 56 years old- what the Hell could I POSSIBLY know? THE TEN TALENTS. (Matthew 25:1-46.) You have no understanding of Love, ON THE CONTRARY, I AM THE GREATEST AUTHORITY ON "LOVE" PRESENT AT THIS TIME. The Ancient Greek Language had TWELVE DIFFERENT WORDS the last English Barbarians called "LOVE." The only one YOUR ILK know, EROS: ROMANTIC LOVE, is the only one not used in the New Testament. [See my Blog: LOVE: DISAMBIGUATION AND CLARIFICATION.] and you think your knowledge is on feet? HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THAT ALLEGATION? You better look down and check again, Mr. Knowledge. Just come here to drop monotonous long posts My Knowledge cannot do you any good, since you are not worthy. THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH trains its Undercover Operatives to disrupt Christian Gatherings. If everybody here is okay with you slandering and reviling me, they must all be Vatican Servants.
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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 4:53pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
oaroloye: This crap again ! . ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 5:54pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Peacefullove:not everybody is permitted to give such account. Paul had a revelation of the third heaven he wasn't allowed to share. If you think that once you die you no longer exist you are the most pitied of all creatures! Let me leave more verses about hell fire for you. Psalms 140:10 Let burning coals fall upon them: let them be cast into the fire; into deep pits, that they rise not up again. Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 5:51am On Oct 04, 2016 |
solite3: you didn't answer the question . if this is what you can come up with , I seriously shake my head for your shallow reasoning . OGA, am not asking about revelation pleaseeeeeeee! a person seeing revelation ain't dead . [size=28] For those who had actually died that's experience , if such a place exist . why is it that NONE , I repeat NONE of those who died and were raised by Jesus, in your bible give a tale of hell ? [/size] 1 Like |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 5:55am On Oct 04, 2016 |
olacool1000000: you people always think everyone is a fool . tell me in simple English, what is eternal life ? properly define that and we will see if those in your imaginary hell won't have eternal life too ![]() |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by pr0blem: 7:27am On Oct 04, 2016 |
Sunglow: It deeply grieves me to see and know people think this way. To think that what God did for mankind is an OFFER to be accepted. Who the blessed taught us so? What on earth is LEGAL and VITAL Salvation? Are you one of them apologetics too? Salvation is not an OFFER, otherwise, it is reduced do something that can be "rejected". However, if considered from the angle of a signed CONTRACT (the blood of Jesus being the Seal), the it's only to be REALIZED. So, does one's not realizing this make God's PERFECT FINISHED WORK in Christ for the World ineffective? Naaaah! Check out Romans again, you'll see Paul making it the more clear which is the most significant and eternally important realities (Legal or Vital). Does the clay say to the Potter, why hath thou made me so? The clays RECEIVING shape and size is in the Potter's GIVING it. Is the Potter thus raping the Clay? Ask Paul. Have you ever heard in this life that the baby in a Pregnant woman was either accepting or rejecting the Mother's love? Legal or vital reality. Otherwise, I don't think you seem to understand God's connection with man. EVERYTHING PERTAINING TO SALVATION IS GOD, All God. There's not one thing Man did or will do to make it any more EFFECTIVE than it already is. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by pr0blem: 9:02am On Oct 04, 2016 |
oaroloye WHERE DID YAHSHUA TEACH HIS DISCIPLES TO LAUGH AT OTHERS? You and I know that you have very well misconstrued that passage, now, who is the IGNORANT DUNCE? Your Yahshua taught you not to laugh and not to get rich, but very well taught you to call people names. I see! O ye paragon of knowledge. Such Immaturity! [size=48pt]PROVE IT![/size] Sigh! Accolades. You're no different from a worldly man, yours is just for spiritual things. I wouldn't satisfy you by stooping so low. I have nothing to prove with you. Your Yahshua didn't go asking the Pharisees that challenged him such ridiculous questions. You have a lot to learn from your Yahshua, really! With your responses, revelation(s)/understanding of scriptures are not at all exclusive to you. In fact, one should be most careful of you. People are DYING, because they don't know what I know. Hahahaa! I very well appreciate your complement. O Worthy ONE! You do not only misunderstand scriptures, you also misunderstand statements made by people to you, I wonder how your folks cope. That is HIS Knowledge, and YOUR Knowledge. Alright then sir. Thank You. I see my post obviously wasn't to and for you. I'm sorry for making wrong assumptions that you had partial knowledge, and you possibly couldn't ever be wrong about a thing. Hey, I'm only 56 years old- what the Hell could I POSSIBLY know? You don't say! Of what use is your age to do with me? Your Yahshua was merely 12 when he posed to be a problem to people your age. Of what use was their age to him? ON THE CONTRARY, I AM THE GREATEST AUTHORITY ON "LOVE" PRESENT AT THIS TIME. Guy! Shift abeeg. HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THAT ALLEGATION? Pride comes before a fall, knowledge puffs up. You are very well puffed up, and you don't know it. You are 56 doesn't mean the rest of us don't have a brain. 56 doesn't mean brain, doesn't mean sh!t bro. My allegations about you aren't wrong, and they weren't even allegations in the first place, they were merely (Concluded) observations. And dude! Your reply just proved all to be TRUE. My Knowledge cannot do you any good, since you are not worthy. And because you are 56, and a paragon of knowledge, it is now you who dictates who is worthy? LOOOL. Now, I see where your hate is coming from. Your beef is not with me, it's with the Pope and his people. And please STFU! Nobody is slandering and reviling you. Bring yourself out of the sh!thole self-pity you're trying to put yourself in. Nobody is buying it. Sigh! Dude, you need help! You're seriously suffering from PARANOIA, almost PTS if you ask me. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Justmary06(f): 2:47pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
dolphinheart: No, that's not what I meant. I believe you are familiar with the book of Revelation and that was the reason I actually quoted that chapter (wanted to know if she actually read the Book). Anyway, right there in Rev 20 After the dragon (who happen to b satan) was thrown into the well of Abyss and sealed, then released and thrown into the lake fire - where the Beast and the false prophet was previously thrown. Then the judgement "I saw a Great White Throne and the One Enthroned. Nothing could stand before or against the Presence, nothing in Heaven, nothing on earth. And then I saw all the dead, great and small, standing there—before the Throne! And books were opened. Then another book was opened: the Book of Life. The dead were judged by what was written in the books, by the way they had lived. SEA released its dead, DEATH and HELL (aka HADES) turned in their dead. Each man and woman was judged by the way he or she had lived. Then Death and Hell (Hades) were hurled into Lake Fire. This is the second death—Lake Fire. Anyone whose name was not found inscribed in the Book of Life was hurled into Lake Fire. Revelation 20:11-15 MSG That's what I meant by in between. Souls which are currently neither resting nor mortally alive. Souls that are trapped with Death and Hades. We all would be judged at the same time which is way after: The opening of the seven seal (The SIXTH, tribulations where only 144,000 were sealed on their forehead and excluded REV 7) The sound of the seven trumpet where those who were saved from tribulation would be excluded (The SIXTH, Horsemen armies who killed a third of human race and The Two witnesses REV 9 and REV 11) The wrath of the Dragon who transfer authority to The Beast from the sea who "was permitted to make war on God’s holy people and conquer them. It held absolute sway over all tribes and peoples, tongues and races. Everyone on earth whose name was not written from the world’s foundation in the slaughtered Lamb’s Book of Life will worship the Beast." REV 13 vs 7-8 then the false prophet who give the markings of the beast name. Actually there is a riddle in that passage...to figure out the meaning of the mark Rev 13 vs 18 "Solve a riddle: Put your heads together and figure out the meaning of the number of the Beast. It’s a human number: 666." The seven angels with seven disasters (The SIXTH, Armageddon REV 16) Finally, The fall of the Babylon (the great city, which reigns over and dominates and controls the kings and the political leaders of the earth. REV 18), Doom of the Beast (Antichrist) and false prophet REV 19, The millennial Reign where the thousand years when Devil will be sealed in the Well of Abyss, the souls of believers slain for Christ would reign with him and the unbelievers will remain Dead REV 20 vs 4-5, then the Final Rebellion and Lastly The Final JUDGMENT. I just summarized Revelation for you and I hope you will understand what I mean better now. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 3:58pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
Peacefullove:Its a pity! Do you know if they saw hell? Not all things were written down! The bible already contain a true life story about hell fire ( Lazarus and the rich man)! I am not arguing this with you any further. |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 6:46pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
solite3: exposed!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 9:27pm On Oct 04, 2016 |
Peacefullove:may God have mercy on you! |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by dolphinheart(m): 10:55am On Oct 05, 2016 |
Justmary06:good you read the book of revelation, here is some of the things I learnt from chapter 20 1. satan will be bound for 1000 years 2. He will be let loose for a while 3. There will be a resurrection before the 1000 years start but not all will be ressurreted during that first resurrection "I saw a Great White Throne and the One Enthroned. Nothing could stand before or against the Presence, nothing in Heaven, nothing on earth. And then I saw all the dead, great and small, standing there—before the Throne! And books were opened. Then another book was opened: the Book of Life. The dead were judged by what was written in the books, by the way they had lived. SEA released its dead, DEATH and HELL (aka HADES) turned in their dead. Each man and woman was judged by the way he or she had lived. Then Death and Hell (Hades) were hurled into Lake Fire. This is the second death—Lake Fire. Anyone whose name was not found inscribed in the Book of Life was hurled into Lake Fire.the verses you quoted falsify your claim that nobody is in heLl. 1.The verses tells us that Hell Turned in its dead, if there are no dead people in hell, pls tell me, which dead did hell turn in if nobody is there.? 2. Secondly, if you are one who believes the parable of lasarus and the rich man is literal , how come you believe no one is in hell? cus the rich man was in hell while his brothers where still alive, long time before judgement. 3. you explanation does not tell us if people now go to heLl after they are judged, the scriptures you quoted does not say so. look at what you said earlier : "The truth according to the bible, no one is presently in hell. Judgement has not taken place. What we have now is souls trapped inbetween." examining your statement and the bible verses you quoted shows how leaky your theory is and I will encourage you to discard it cus it's not the truth!, At no point could you point to us when people go to hell, unless you want to claim that "lake of fire" means hell, and that will not work cus it's not true, hell was thrown into the lake of fire! That's what I meant by in between. Souls which are currently neither resting nor mortally alive. Souls that are trapped with Death and Hades. We all would be judged at the same time which is way after:you just posted a verse that says hell gave up its dead, pls tell us, can Hades be translated as hell? can death be translated as hell? can the sea be translated as hell? pls tell me , are their people trapped in the sea right now? Thank God the scriptures never said they where trapped , because being trapped will involve an effort to get out, but such efforts being futile. according to the bible, that is not the condition of the dead. you say souls are trapped with death and Hades, pls tell me, where are they trapped with death and Hades? The opening of the seven seal (The SIXTH, tribulations where only 144,000 were sealed on their forehead and excluded REV 7) I do not understand how this affects or identifies the location of people who died or if they are in hell or not. pls can you tell me, at what point in this whole scenario you posted did the first resurrection occur. you stated that the unbelievers will remain dead, are you saying that all believers would have been resurrected at this point? are you saying that after the 1000 year reign, nobody will be found whose name is written in the book of life? minus the first and fifth which you tried to answer but got it all wrong, the other questions are still pending. where did you get that 2. In between what and what will their soul be trapped 3. what is the name of the place where their soul will be trapped. 4. If souls are not in hell until judgement, then the story of the rich man is not literal, cus he was in hell when he was talking about his brothers who are still alI've. 6. what happens to the dragon after that little while. If you examine my questions carefully, you yourself can see how untrue your theory is! |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by LoveJesus87(m): 6:15pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Berlynn:the Jesus you know who not ignore them ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by LoveJesus87(m): 6:15pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Berlynn:the Jesus you know who not ignore them ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by ScienceWatch: 4:41pm On May 12, 2017 |
Oaroloye, did you know that there are a few Atheists that are worthy of respect because they are TRUTH seekers? But you Oaroloye are on the lowest level of ATHEISM because you deliberately twist TRUTH. It has been clear to me from the start that your SATANIC MISSION is to destroy the mighty WORKS experienced only in LIVING CHURCHES. You have chosen to serve your master SATAN. That is your choice. But why are you so stupid?even Atheists are offended by your crude attempts to mock the mighty JESUS to prove that you will succeed where others have failed.OAROLOYE, YOU HAVE ALREADY FAILED. YOU HAVE FAILED FROM THE START in your SATANIC MISSION to slyly destroy the mighty JESUS CHRIST. ANY IDIOT CAN COPY & PASTE thousands of scriptures the way you do. BUT YOU CLEARLY LACK UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOLY GOSPELS. IT WOULD BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO CONFINE YOURSELF IN A MENTAL ASYLUM OR GO TO HELL WHERE YOUR MASTER SATAN RESIDE. No offence intended! oaroloye: |
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by ScienceWatch: 5:05pm On May 12, 2017 |
pr0blem:Well written Sir! You have speedily identified a hateful CONMAN, on Nairaland. THIS SHITHOLE, OAROLOYE IS A SATANIC ATHEIST disguised as a Christian. He will take your statements and viciously twist it into a massive mess. Then he will spam copious OUT OF CONTEXT scriptures in a failed attempt to deceive and confuse his prey. Oaroloye should admit himself to state MENTAL institution to give society a break. |
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