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How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by chukel(m): 5:38pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
2days ago FRSC bayelsa command identified a stolen honda EOD which was being registered for the new plate number. To the 2nd owner, he bought a tokunboh car from lagos, brought it back to bayelsa and went ahead to register for d new plate number. It was dia dat FRSC discovered on dia system dat the car had been registered. Dy pulled d original information on the car nd called d phone number d car was registered with. The original owner picked and confirmed her car was stolen on 9th of september at gunpoint. Meanwhile the new owner purchased the vehicle on the 19th of september. The woman came down to bayelsa with her husband. The car, original owner and d 2nd owner were handed over to police. Kudos to the new vehicle registration scheme. The question is, hw wud one avoid purchasing a stolen vehicle. Wat r d tips or measures one shud take. Wat d signs dat shuyd raise suspicion. Ur input is needed. Anybody can fall victim 23 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by chukel(m): 1:16pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
No input yet? This can help a lot of people. House, pls contribute 4 Likes |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by bizz(m): 5:36am On Oct 26, 2013 |
chukel: No input yet? This can help a lot of people. House, pls contributedon't know o....waiting anyway 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by macIB(m): 6:37am On Oct 26, 2013 |
Maybe by adequately checking all the documents that came with the car...just maybe but it maybe difficult to detect. |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by solace2013: 1:10pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
Price may be cheaper, e.g. someone offering a so called 2009 Camry for 900k, be careful of such. Seller may be in a hurry, pleading with you to buy at a very cheap price, be careful. Awoof dey run belle o. One man in Akure took bank loan to buy a "tokunbo" 2004 Nissan Pathfinder for N800k, a car of about 1.5 million. He even go church go share testimony of "God's favour" lo and behold, the car was stolen from Lagos and sold to him in Oshogbo, what saved him was that the dealer who sold the car to him and one of the thieves who snatched the car were caught. However, I heard that he spent more than a million naira for police, lawyers and spiritualists before he was let off the hook. 46 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by JUO(m): 7:02pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
no one factor is price 1 Like |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by adanny01(m): 10:01pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
I have had plans on so many ocassions to buy a car from Nairaland but never found a good one at the right price and time. Am still searching. Family and friends have warned me not to buy from nairaland due to 2 issues; fraudsters and stolen vehicles. I was of the opinion that to absolve myself from prosecution for receiving stolen property, i will ask my seller to join me with the car to a police station where we will demand for a police report and thereafter go to court for change of ownership registration. With that, i believe, i the buyer may be free from prosecution. Ofcourse, police report is a little issue as they may make you pay through your nose. The court i believe charge as little as N200 (in the north o). An option is for the buyer and seller to take the car to any FRSC office to confirm if its not stolen. All these should be carried out b4 money is transfered to the seller. It also means the seller must be willing to leave his business to do that. If the car was bought from a registered auto dealer, then a reciept or an invoice should protect the buyer from prosecution if car is later discovered to be stolen. The auto dealer should be responsible but the Nigerian security system will be so quick to lock you up even with a reciept from the company. Someone with better experience can tell us if my opinion will work or better ways for us buyers to protect ourselves from the police. On instances like this, the police are known for locking up everybody that has his name mentioned. 52 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by dgitrader(m): 4:58pm On Oct 27, 2013 |
For naija used car, only buy from a registered auto dealer, with his complete reciepts acting as transfer of ownership too. I say this because vertually all car documents can be easily faked and be undetected. Just do this to safeguard urself and hope hope for d best. But if u r buying from individual known to youl , u both should take the car to vio inspection centre before any further dealings. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by Issyman(m): 2:51pm On Oct 29, 2013 |
my suggestion is that when you want to buy a naija fairly used car, copy down the registration number (plate number) and go to the any police station and ask them to help you check if it has ever been reported stolen before. tell them you want to purchase the car, simple. but it will cost you a small bucks sha. 11 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by adanny01(m): 5:43pm On Oct 29, 2013 |
Issyman: my suggestion is that when you want to buy a naija fairly used car, copy down the registration number (plate number) and go to the any police station and ask them to help you check if it has ever been reported stolen before. tell them you want to purchase the car, simple. but it will cost you a small bucks sha. This does not guarantee that it was not stolen or save you from prosecution. If it were stolen and not immediately reported, not even the police will know. Even if the police tell you it is not stolen a buyer will still be in trouble. Besides the police just told u it is not stolen which will not hold in a court when u are prosecuted. You need a document from the police that it is not stolen. 20 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by alphaconde(m): 10:03pm On Oct 29, 2013 |
adanny01: I have had plans on so many ocassions to buy a car from Nairaland but never found a good one at the right price and time. Am still searching. Police and court documents in nigeria as fake document, even the policemen will disregard their own documents. So do nt count on it. 6 Likes |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by adanny01(m): 11:06pm On Oct 29, 2013 |
alpha conde: If the police and court would not admit their own documents, what makes you think a reciept from a registered car dealer is a valid document? A police report is always written on a police letter headed paper duly signed by a DPO (all police reports i have seen). I better have that than count on the word of a police officer. 16 Likes |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by chukel(m): 8:03am On Oct 30, 2013 |
Tnks for ur input. Has anyone had a case of innocently purchasing a stolen vehicle nd how d whole issue played out? We may learn 1 or 2 things from dat. If we can figure out how to kn stolen vehicles and avoid purchasing dem, we wud makE business difficult for car thieves. 2 Likes |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by dyrocks204: 7:24pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Good topic but people have still not yet made important suggestions. I want to buy a car for which I ran an AutoCheck. The AutoCheck reveals that the car was shipped to Cotonou in 2013 but the dealer is claiming that it's toks (in 2016). I will like to investigate whatever caused the 3 years lacuna. I'll like to know if it's Nigeria used & is being diabolically projected as toks. There is no plate number to verify with. my people, your advice is highly needed. The car is a Toyota avalon 2005/06 Touring 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by 3kay945(m): 10:24pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Only if this topic can be moved to front page, it would have gathered the attention needed. 1 Like |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by nurey(m): 2:26am On Oct 04, 2016 |
dyrocks204: I don't know how true the auto check is. I believe it's not supposed to tell you what port the car was sent to according to my limited knowledge Sha. There is no how you can identify a tokunbo car used in Nigeria regularly for long distance. If your report is true, ask the owner what port the car came in through to Nigeria, if he says tin can, then walk away from the deal. Go under the car, a Nigerian rocked tokunbo would have the plastics covering the body highly misaligned, muddy under neat, engine seat probably soaked with oil like muddy water. Ask the owner when the car came into the country by verifying from the custom document, then do a Vin check, the last time the car was registered abroad crossed checked with the custom clearance date will tell a lot about the car 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by dyrocks204: 8:26am On Oct 04, 2016 |
nurey: Thanks nurey. The AutoCheck actually said the car was shipped to Benin Republic in Feb, 2013 (it didn't say Cotonou port exactly) and it was last registered abroad that same 2013. From the custom clearance paper, the car reportedly came into Nigeria through Seme border (dealer confirmed this also) and the date was May 2016. Below is the VIN check report: Hello, This Autocheck report has been provided at no cost by AuctionExport.com your key to the North American auto auction: 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited / Touring / XL / XLS One ownerOne ownersCalculated Owners: 1 Class: Mid Range Car - Premium Engine: 3.5L V6 EFI Country of Assembly: United States Vehicle Age: 11 Calculated Owners: 1 VIN: 4T1BK36BX5U018322 Year : 2005 Make : Toyota Model: Avalon Limited / Touring / XL / XLS Style/Body: Sedan 4D This vehicle's AutoCheck Score 57 - 76 69 The AutoCheck Score is a summary of your vehicle's history. It lets you compare similar vehicles with ease. About the AutoCheck Score This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection Buyback Safeguard your investment with AutoCheck Buyback Protection. It reduces the risk in buying a used vehicle. About Buyback Protection Accident Check Reported Accidents: 1 Title and Problem Check Your vehicle checks out Odometer Check Your vehicle checks out Last Reported Odometer: 137,830 Vehicle Use and Event Check Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported View Detailed Vehicle History Accident Check Not all accidents / issues are reported to AutoCheck Information Reported: AutoCheck shows accidents reported to AutoCheck for this 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited / Touring / XL / XLS (4T1BK36BX5U018322). Below you will find the date and location reported for the accident. Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck. Accidents Reported on This Vehicle Accident No. Reported Date Location 1 06/13/2008 JOHNSON COUNTY, KS Reported accidents or damage events are a result of vehicle collisions or other non-collision incidents such as vandalism or theft. Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck. Title and Problem Check Your vehicle checks out: AutoCheck's database for this 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited / Touring / XL / XLS (4T1BK36BX5U018322) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems, and disqualifies the vehicle for AutoCheck Buyback Protection. Check the Vehicle Use and Event Check for reported accidents that can affect vehicle safety and value. 0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title or probable total loss record No junk or scrapped title record No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame/unibody damage record No recycling facility record Odometer Check Your vehicle checks out: AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited / Touring / XL / XLS (4T1BK36BX5U018322) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported 42 05/20/2005 137,326 11/05/2012 137,830 12/08/2012 137,830 01/28/2013 Vehicle Use and Event Check Information Reported: AutoCheck shows additional vehicle uses or events reported to AutoCheck for this 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited / Touring / XL / XLS (4T1BK36BX5U018322). This includes reported vehicle uses such as rental or lease, and events such as whether the vehicle has been reported to have had a loan/lien or duplicate title issued. Other events show if the vehicle has a reported accident and how many calculated accidents or if it has been reported stolen or repossessed. It is recommended to have pre-owned vehicles inspected by a third party prior to purchase. 0 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked: No fleet, rental and/or lease use record No taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 1 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: 1 Accident record(s) reported through accident data sources No corrected title record No duplicate title record No emission/safety inspection record No loan/lien record No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Detailed Vehicle History One ownerOne ownersCalculated Owners: 1 Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date: September 30, 2016 4:24:35 EDT Vehicle: 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited / Touring / XL / XLS (4T1BK36BX5U018322) Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail 03/14/2005 Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER 05/04/2005 CLINTON, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 05/20/2005 CLINTON, MO 42 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:PA871858) 05/10/2007 CLINTON, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 06/13/2008 JOHNSON COUNTY, KS State Agency COLLISION WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE (Case #:200800228550) MINOR TO MODERATE DAMAGE REPORTED 05/20/2009 CLINTON, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 05/28/2011 LIBERTY, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 01/05/2012 LIBERTY, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:TJG63040) 11/05/2012 FL 137,326 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 12/08/2012 FL 137,830 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 01/12/2013 FL Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 01/28/2013 FL 137,830 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE 02/19/2013 JACKSONVILLE, FL Independent Source VEHICLE EXPORTED TO BENIN |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by CastedAyo: 7:04am On Apr 02, 2018 |
2013 1 Like |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by Olukokosir(m): 7:06am On Apr 02, 2018 |
macIB: m in support of u |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by Lincoln275(m): 7:06am On Apr 02, 2018 |
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Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by Nobody: 7:07am On Apr 02, 2018 |
Just ask the seller.. "Did you steal it? " 3 Likes |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by thundafire: 7:08am On Apr 02, 2018 |
Issyman:u get mind NPF no get database of anything abi na does files where dn full shelves u expect dem to open hmm Bro u need to cough up dollars common thieves data dey don't have na stolen vehicle dey get 5 Likes |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by fareed69(m): 7:10am On Apr 02, 2018 |
dgitrader: Nice write But got confused at where the car should be taking to vio. For what pls just need clarity. |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by kmaster007: 7:11am On Apr 02, 2018 |
Explain |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by thunderbabs: 7:12am On Apr 02, 2018 |
Is Autojosh still sleeping ? |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by seunlayi(m): 7:14am On Apr 02, 2018 |
Nice info |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by dokyOloye: 7:15am On Apr 02, 2018 |
A laxity on our Nigerian authorities who do not keep records. Once you input a vehicle's VIN number on whether Road safety,VIO,insurance or even police database,it should be able to tell you if the vehicle was stolen or previously registered but being passed on as a Tokumbo. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Can One Identify A Stolen Vehicle At The Point Of Purchase by Nobody: 7:16am On Apr 02, 2018 |
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