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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 2:35pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Ohhhh so now... The NCAA and US was backwater huh?? From back in the days? Looolll...

Pele played in the US you know, wink in his twilight years.... smiley


It's not my fault the internet is devoid of clear citations for Usiyen's goals. Even wikipedia puts it as 14 goals now... A former thread on NL in 2012 with citation put it as 15 goals...

Here it is: https://www.nairaland.com/1074465/super-eagles-all-time-highest-goal

The records are a bit sketchy but I know when I researched it, it was indeed 15 goals in 24 matches.

It's not easy getting records from the 70s... Even the NFF no dey help matters.

So based on his records, the clips I saw and his records in the US.... Usiyen was a super striker.

Even someone's opinion( someone who watched him play) says it all...

Like I said earlier... Check out more on Usiyen for yourself... History is one-sided... Look from all perspectives... smiley

What you provided is someone's opinion on nairaland. That's not a reliable source. Where did Wikipedia give him 14 goals? See, if there is no reliable source, there is no point insisting on what you cannot back up.

Yes, the US league was back water in the 70s. Famous players went there to completely retire. Pele played there when he was way past his prime. He even came out of retirement at that time at the age of 35.

See what wiki said

After the 1974 season (his 19th with Santos),
Pelé retired from Brazilian club football
although he continued to occasionally play for
Santos in official competitive matches. Two
years later, he came out of semi-retirement to
sign with the New York Cosmos of the North
American Soccer League (NASL) for the 1975
season though well past his prime at this
point...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:35pm On Oct 04, 2016
zicky:
The garri and jollof rice angle from safarigirl is the conclusion of the whole debate. One a local champion, the other a world recognize champion

Which is greater UEFA Champions League or European Cup? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:36pm On Oct 04, 2016
Loooolllll...... And you think you adore "Yeking" more than I... Hahahahahahaha...

Abegiii... Just live with the truth. Stop being monotonous in perspective. smiley

See from all sides of history and not just the "so called pioneer" side.

I am putting down no one. You guys have been the one doing that all debate. I have subtly avoided it thus far even when the temptation came (though I subtly dropped a sniper remark for Sir Forgiveness on Yekini but I still laughed it off... Loollll). But you guys were bullish about it. So stop crying saint. Loooollllll....



goldfish80:

This argument is going way out of line and quite nonsensical. Do you think you love Kanu more than me?
I have no problem if you think he is the greatest Nigerian export. But driving home your argument while making back hand compliments against Keshi and Yekini like the rubbish "top ten sef" snide remarks is something I take exception to.
I can see you lots are already saying Yekini is a local champion. A man whose record has yet to be matched. Nigeria's first APOTY.
It's like a French man calling Michelle Platini a local champion to drive home how much he adores Zidane.

What exactly is wrong with you guys?

You can continue belittling Yekini's achievement and make jest of his record, but I promise you , as you get older and develop more in your though process, you will realise how way out of line you gave gone in putting Yekini down just to win an argument online.
Am done with this gutter argument

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:41pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmm.... He missed a goal. It's 15 goals in 24 apps. (0.58) I have already stated that before.....

Yekini's is 37 goals in 58 apps... (0.64)


Had Usiyen played at least 50 games.... Yekini won't hold the record.

Usiyen was Nigeria's first authentic Super Striker not Yekini.

At USA 94, where were Yekini's goals?? He wasn't even our stand-out performer at the two world cups he played in.

Kanu also scored important earth-shaking goals for Nigeria. Atlanta 96 comes to mind.

He also gave the killer pass to Utaka for that famous win over Cameroun at Afcon 2004 to break Cameroun's hoodoo over Nigeria at the Afcon. We can go on and on... But Kanu takes it.






Usiyen na baller but he won nothing in 1976 AFCON. Full stop! grin

When the Authentic came, he did. Full stop! grin

At 1994 World Cup, he SCORED NIGERIA'S FIRST EVER GOAL IN THE BIGGEST FIFA ORGANISED COMPETITION IN THE WORLD. grin

Did Kanu make CAF team of the tournament in 2004?

Sorry! grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:46pm On Oct 04, 2016
It's the 70s and there's nothing I can do about the NFF not having "officially on their site" what I know and researched to be true.

The person's opinion on nairaland had a citation. Look closely. smiley

And yep... Wikipedia of now, gives him 14 goals... But I researched 15 goals and confirmed it back then...... it was couple of years ago. I was much younger.

Here is wiki's: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria_national_football_team

Note: stroll all the way down the page... smiley

Like I said, the 70s have some sketchy records but deep research will bring it all out. I remember kunle solaja's piece in soccer star back in my secondary school days on this. It was recorded 15 goals for Usiyen. But I can't put the link here... They don't have the online archive. And finding the paper itself... Phewww... Not funny mehn... smiley

Usiyen was a doyen in front of goal. You don't wanna talk about the opinion of one who watched him play. #justanopinion but precious all the same. It's up there somewhere.... In my reply to Sir Tbaba1234.

As for Pele, I did say "twilight" years naa... smiley


joseph1013:
What you provided is someone's opinion on nairaland. That's not a reliable source. Where did Wikipedia give him 14 goals? See, if there is no reliable source, there is no point insisting on what you cannot back up.

Yes, the US league was back water. Pele played there when he was way past his prime. He even.came out of retirement.

See what wiki said

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:50pm On Oct 04, 2016
Okay... Uhmmm... You don win... Happy? wink

So uhmm.. Be very honest... Whose goal caused more ripples across Nigeria and Africa...?

1. Yekini's goal against Bulgaria (Nigeria's historic 1st at the world cup)

2. Kanu's goals against Brazil at Atlanta 96.

smiley

(Ohhh Lord.... But this is Forgiveness... We know his answer already... Looollll...) But answer all the same... Me I'm done with the debate.. Just answer.


forgiveness:


Usiyen na baller but he won nothing in 1976 AFCON. Full stop! grin

When the Authentic came, he did. Full stop! grin

At 1994 World Cup, he SCORED NIGERIA'S FIRST EVER GOAL IN THE BIGGEST FIFA ORGANISED COMPETITION IN THE WORLD. grin

Did Kanu make CAF team of the tournament in 2004?

Sorry! grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:53pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Okay... Uhmmm... You don win... Happy? wink

So uhmm.. Be very honest... Whose goal caused more ripples across Nigeria and Africa...?

1. Yekini's goal against Bulgaria (Nigeria's historic 1st at the world cup)

2. Kanu's goals against Brazil at Atlanta 96.

smiley

(Ohhh Lord.... But this is Forgiveness... We know his answer already... Looollll...) But answer all the same... Me I'm done with the debate.. Just answer.



People like u make me smile smiley. U are done but u got in ur last word which will bring more arguements.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:53pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
I wonder why he scored only one goal at the world cup. So much for being prolific. Looolllll

Sorry, it's just a banter... wink


Yes! He went 2 times scored once but Kanu went tiree.. teree.. sorry! THREE TIMES grin but goal he no score. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:56pm On Oct 04, 2016
smiley smiley smiley smiley smiley

You got me... Lolll... But seriously I'm done. smiley

Need to go check updates on our girls. Halftime is nil-all...

BascoVanVeli:


People like u make me smile smiley. U are done but u got in ur last word which will bring more arguements.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:56pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Okay... Uhmmm... You don win... Happy? wink

So uhmm.. Be very honest... Whose goal caused more ripples across Nigeria and Africa...?

1. Yekini's goal against Bulgaria (Nigeria's historic 1st at the world cup)

2. Kanu's goals against Brazil at Atlanta 96.

smiley

(Ohhh Lord.... But this is Forgiveness... We know his answer already... Looollll...) But answer all the same... Me I'm done with the debate.. Just answer.



Both. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:58pm On Oct 04, 2016
Hahahahahahahaahahahaha....

[img]http://wildgeesethatfly.files./2012/01/laugh-brock-gif.gif[/img]

You remind me of the pharisees.... Looollll

Okay... That's it... I'm done... smiley

forgiveness:


Both. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Pavarotti: 2:59pm On Oct 04, 2016
Update

1st training Session held

Mikel Leads 20 Super Eagles For First Training Session In Abuja

http://www.soccerassembly.com/mikel-leads-20-super-eagles-for-first-training-session-in-abuja/

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:01pm On Oct 04, 2016
but sentiments aside kanu's goal scoring record for the super eagles is atrocious. especially as he is a striker. 3 world cups 6 AFCONs and not a single goal in sight.

forgiveness:


Yes! He went 2 times scored once but Kanu went tiree.. teree.. sorry! THREE TIMES grin but goal he no score. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:05pm On Oct 04, 2016
I have always pointed out that myself against Kanu even on facebook. smiley

But we look not at one side but "all" sides of history..... #I'm done ooo... Just wanted to say I also point out Kanu's deficiencies in all his glory.



chrisooblog:
but sentiments aside kanu's goal scoring record for the super eagles is atrocious. especially as he is a striker. 3 world cups 6 AFCONs and not a single goal in sight.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:05pm On Oct 04, 2016
chrisooblog:
but sentiments aside kanu's goal scoring record for the super eagles is atrocious. especially as he is a striker. 3 world cups 6 AFCONs and not a single goal in sight.


Yekini's goal scoring record for Nigeria is amazing. Yet, he did not make the list of the first phase of the 100 greatest footballers. Kanu did.


This guy told me "If Kanu were Brazilian, he'd have be considered alongside Pele, Maradona and Messi" Kanu is his favourite player of all time and BTW he's Brazilian!"......BBC's Peter Okwoche from Brazil.


There is more to football than goals.

PAPILO, Na you biko.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:13pm On Oct 04, 2016
Mikel "midfield generalissimo".... Happy to have you around for this tie. smiley

Don't wanna start thinking how we execute the battle of Ndola without Mikel... Not now mehn.. Not now... smiley

Pavarotti:
Update

1st training Session held

Mikel Leads 20 Super Eagles For First Training Session In Abuja

http://www.soccerassembly.com/mikel-leads-20-super-eagles-for-first-training-session-in-abuja/



Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:23pm On Oct 04, 2016
bros na simple observation i just dey make wey you quick post person picture lol

but let's be sincere with ourselves the only reason why kanu is this popular is because of his heart condition wahala, his hatrick against chelsea for arsenal and the olympic soccer gold. even that olympic sef na underage tournament and we all know how notorious nigeria was at age group competitions.

TheGoodJoe:


Yekini's goal scoring record for Nigeria is amazing. Yet, he did not make the list of the first phase of the 100 greatest footballers. Kanu did.


This guy told me "If Kanu were Brazilian, he'd have be considered alongside Pele, Maradona and Messi" Kanu is his favourite player of all time and BTW he's Brazilian!"......BBC's Peter Okwoche from Brazil.


There is more to football than goals.

PAPILO, Na you biko.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:32pm On Oct 04, 2016
chrisooblog:
bros na simple observation i just dey make wey you quick post person picture lol

but let's be sincere with ourselves the only reason why kanu is this popular is because of his heart condition wahala, his hatrick against chelsea for arsenal and the olympic soccer gold. even that olympic sef na underage tournament and we all know how notorious nigeria was at age group competitions.


[size=14pt]The International Federation of Football History and Statistics (IFFHS) announced the Phase One of football legend and Kanu was included in the list[/size]
Feb, 2016

"I was named among the 48 football legends by FIFA IFFHS.thanks to all of you for supporting me from beginning till now and I thank God," the former Arsenal man said.

He makes the list alongside other African greats like George Oppong Weah, Roger Milla, Rabah Medjer, Muhammed Aboutrika, Mohmud El-Khatub and former Bafana Bafana captain Lucas Radebe.


http://pulse.ng/sports/football/kanu-nwankwo-super-eagles-great-named-among-world-football-legends-id4662324.html

These guys forgot Yekini.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 3:34pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Okay... Uhmmm... You don win... Happy? wink

So uhmm.. Be very honest... Whose goal caused more ripples across Nigeria and Africa...?

1. Yekini's goal against Bulgaria (Nigeria's historic 1st at the world cup)

2. Kanu's goals against Brazil at Atlanta 96.

smiley

(Ohhh Lord.... But this is Forgiveness... We know his answer already... Looollll...) But answer all the same... Me I'm done with the debate.. Just answer.


even old men celebrated the goal scored by "tatas" more to the one scored by their fellow. Kanu won so many penalties for Nigeria during Afcon, if he wanted to score nothing stop him from taking one. Papilo, King Kanu

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 3:39pm On Oct 04, 2016
forgiveness:


Which is greater UEFA Champions League or European Cup? grin
I hardly watch Euro cup,
My rating

1. World cup

2. Champions league

3. African Nations cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:41pm On Oct 04, 2016
good for him that he made their ''list''.

all super eagles know who the real boss is though cool YEKINI BABA!!!

TheGoodJoe:


[size=14pt]The International Federation of Football History and Statistics (IFFHS) announced the Phase One of football legend and Kanu was included in the list[/size]
Feb, 2016

"I was named among the 48 football legends by FIFA IFFHS.thanks to all of you for supporting me from beginning till now and I thank God," the former Arsenal man said.

He makes the list alongside other African greats like George Oppong Weah, Roger Milla, Rabah Medjer, Muhammed Aboutrika, Mohmud El-Khatub and former Bafana Bafana captain Lucas Radebe.


http://pulse.ng/sports/football/kanu-nwankwo-super-eagles-great-named-among-world-football-legends-id4662324.html

These guys forgot Yekini.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:43pm On Oct 04, 2016
chrisooblog:
good for him that he made their ''list''.

all super eagles know who the real boss is though cool YEKINI BABA!!!


LOLS. Have a nice day.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:54pm On Oct 04, 2016
you too boss

TheGoodJoe:


LOLS. Have a nice day.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:57pm On Oct 04, 2016
goldfish80:

I made this argument sometime ago and was almost eaten alive by TheGoodJoe and Icon4s. Truth is always there in plain sight irrespective of how we feel about it.

That singular act by the FIFA and the Olympic Committee which made Olympic soccer event an underage tourney downgraded that event. That's the Gospel truth

Gospel truth that what?

Who doesn't know d olympic is an age grade competition.

It is down graded yet Neymer and Brazil celebrated as though they have won the World cup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:28pm On Oct 04, 2016
zicky:
I hardly watch Euro cup,
My rating

1. World cup

2. Champions league

3. African Nations cup

That said it. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 4:34pm On Oct 04, 2016
King Kanu

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:40pm On Oct 04, 2016
zicky:
even old men celebrated the goal scored by "tatas" more to the one scored by their fellow. Kanu won so many penalties for Nigeria during Afcon, if he wanted to score nothing stop him from taking one. Papilo, King Kanu

1994 World Cup was the first for Nigeria hence the magnitude of the celebration. It was crazy. grin

Go ask the old men. grin

What stopped stopped Kanu from scoring a penalty at the 2000 AFCON final?

He missed it. Sorry. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:42pm On Oct 04, 2016
Icon4s:


Gospel truth that what?

Who doesn't know d olympic is an age grade competition.

It is down graded yet Neymer and Brazil celebrated as though they have won the World cup.

Na still unrecognised age grade competition for tatas. Nothing more. Sorry. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:49pm On Oct 04, 2016
chrisooblog:
but sentiments aside kanu's goal scoring record for the super eagles is atrocious. especially as he is a striker. 3 world cups 6 AFCONs and not a single goal in sight.

@bolded shocked shocked

I never see person wey get luck pass am.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 5:03pm On Oct 04, 2016
forgiveness:


1994 World Cup was the first for Nigeria hence the magnitude of the celebration. It was crazy. grin

Go ask the old men. grin

What stopped stopped Kanu from scoring a penalty at the 2000 AFCON final?

He missed it. Sorry. grin
. In Tunisha 2004 he scored, lolzzzz. Even your. Conscience know you lie about the Atlanta celebration being less celebrated to the USA 94 goal, everybody was on the street, Nigeria even gat to form a song just for that match, the opponent- Brazil, players - Bebeto, romario, Ronaldo de Lima. Coming for 3-1 down, you forgot it was a golden goal I.e the goal was golden on its own lolzzzzz

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:11pm On Oct 04, 2016
zicky:
. In Tunisha 2004 he scored, lolzzzz. Even your. Conscience know you lie about the Atlanta celebration being less celebrated to the USA 94 goal, everybody was on the street, Nigeria even gat to form a song just for that match, the opponent- Brazil, players - Bebeto, romario, Ronaldo de Lima. Coming for 3-1 down, you forgot it was a golden goal I.e the goal was golden on its own lolzzzzz

Romario was not in Atlanta 96.

USA 94 win against Bulgaria was huge. First world cup, the anticipation was there. I remember the excitement leading to the world cup.

It is difficult to compare.

In fact, i remember the celebration when we first qualified for the world cup. Algeria wanted to kill us in Algiers, attack after attack. We managed to get the draw, we needed.That qualification was bigger than the win against Brazil.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:11pm On Oct 04, 2016
zicky:
. In Tunisha 2004 he scored, lolzzzz. Even your. Conscience know you lie about the Atlanta celebration being less celebrated to the USA 94 goal, everybody was on the street, Nigeria even gat to form a song just for that match, the opponent- Brazil, players - Bebeto, romario, Ronaldo de Lima. Coming for 3-1 down, you forgot it was a golden goal I.e the goal was golden on its own lolzzzzz

For where e take score? grin

And who told you Nigerians didn't celebrate the first goal in FIFA BIGGEST ORGANISED COMPETITION IN THE WORLD? grin

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