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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by Ratello: 4:49pm On Oct 05, 2016
caracas:
That tinubu is the Most ungrateful n dumbest fellow in the senate.
That ppl habe bin keeping quiet does not mean they are fools.
Lagos was developed by its special Status of bin the capital of nigeria,an advantage no other state has or had .
In fact i think Lagos should stop receiving federal allocations because it is a state that a lot has bin invested in by the federal government.the fact that Lagos receives So much money from the federal government is What i just cannot comprehend.
The IGR from Lagos is enough to cater for its various needs .The federal government should stop allocating funds to Lagos as this monies only end up in the hands of tinubu n his bunch of criminal cronies.
For this text me your acct number.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by Afrocentric: 4:49pm On Oct 05, 2016
patriotic9jaboy:
sad the north is hell bent on betraying Tinubu but they forget that no tribe can mess with the almighty oduduwa. They should retrace history and check how yoruba Kingdoms dominated west Africa before the arrival of the British
you people are just making mouth, the south west was nothing right from time.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by caracas: 4:50pm On Oct 05, 2016
codemaniacs:


Yorubas develop Lagos... If you can't accept the truth then go and hug transformer..

Yorubas developed Lagos yet it is a known fact that igbos own 55% of the lands pls Where in Lagos can u mention that was developed by yorubas .
Cos i can mention several places developed by the federal government n the igbos.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by Nobody: 4:51pm On Oct 05, 2016
LorDBolton:


Simple answer to your very well thought out question... THE BRITISH.

The brits decimated the oyo and benin empires, same way today many people do not remember the roman empire who also conquered Britain!

They were soo decimated that it took centuries to reconstitute the 'italic nations"

Why the brits decimated benin kingdom? Due to their resistance, sophistication and military might. Oyo? To secure the colony of lagos whilst northern nations were spared cos the leaders were amenable (indirect rule)

Well you do have a point. However it would be more apt if it were a question of formidability of foes faced. Yes any African who came into direct conflict with more advanced European colonizer a lost.hence oyo, Benin ..... And even sokoto!!
Don't forget that sultan attahiru was beaten In the battlefield by a British controlled expedition force.
But what is different now is the level of sophistication the British faced with regards to large scale ruling structures. Man if the British came to colonize and not trade in the 15 th or 16th centuries they would have faced the same thing in Benin and oyo.... Yet you see how the case was different in the 19th and 20th centuries.
Cos both were in decline.

Before I go off point I just want to say that the level of consolidation of large scale- rule structures runs much deeper in the sahel than in the more tropical zones. The British did in fact defeat sokoto and Borno( after the French beat Rabah zubayr) but the issue of penetration was going to be hard. The Islamic autocratic structures that flourished from the Mediterranean to the Sahel ensure much more administrative control and coordination. Not to say that oyo or Benin weren't sophisticated, but they did not dominate more than the sahelians west Africa-speaking. I mean even sokotos lieutenants sacked oyo-Ile didn't they ? On the issue of on the ground west African polities Sahelians are the embodiment of dominance. Not excellence , dominance !!!
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by codemaniacs: 4:51pm On Oct 05, 2016
Eastactivist:


This is not time to trade words and feel being hated.

Yes we made Lagos a larger economy , our investments and resources made it so and for Lagos demanding for revenue outside the one allocated to then with the internal revenue they generate from our taxes is pure act of selfishness... Is wickedness for proposing such bill..

Lagos should be a state to support other state for being a city with large and stable economy yet Lagos legislatures are finding a way to feed fat from the Nigeria pocket to achieve the so called distinctiveness in the detrimenet of other member state.

This is not good and every sane minds which you can't be counted within should condemn such evil bill.

Rubbish

If you are not selfish we what you have another person will take it away from you.

saying Lagos must support other states is the same as saying a rich person must support a poor person.. other states get their own allocation let them use their own allocation wisely..
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by Eastactivist: 4:52pm On Oct 05, 2016
Flight07:


First of all, go back to school and learn how to type correct sentences. Then come back, kid.

Nairaland is not a grammar testing site nor is it an essay competition site. It is a site where everyone can air his opinion. So save us those critics and criticise objectively.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by arisanate(m): 4:52pm On Oct 05, 2016
NO 1 IKEJA = IGBOS.
caracas:

Yorubas developed Lagos yet it is a known fact that igbos own 55% of the lands pls Where in Lagos can u mention that was developed by yorubas .
Cos i can mention several places developed by the federal government n the igbos.
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by codemaniacs: 4:55pm On Oct 05, 2016
caracas:

Yorubas developed Lagos yet it is a known fact that igbos own 55% of the lands pls Where in Lagos can u mention that was developed by yorubas .
Cos i can mention several places developed by the federal government n the igbos.

No one owns Land.. Land owners pay land use tax... so igbos are welcome to own 90% of the lands in Lagos but in the end they pay tax to the yorubas... so igbos can keep "developing" other peoples land and at the same time paying tax to those people..

I hope one day you own mansions in Lagos.. so that we can also collect tax from you grin grin grin

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by Eastactivist: 4:57pm On Oct 05, 2016
codemaniacs:


If you are not selfish we what you have another person will take it away from you.

saying Lagos must support other states is the same as saying a rich person must support a poor person.. other states get their own allocation let them use their own allocation wisely..

Are you partially mentally stable?

Did you hear me use must in my contest?
Please quote me in context not out of context.

Lagos like I said is in position to assist and help other member state not disfranchise them indirectly with that kind of bills.

And for your own benefit, Lagos is independent of the allocation. The internal revenue got from taxes is its strength not mere paltry allocation.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by Magicc: 4:57pm On Oct 05, 2016
What about Calabar?


seunmsg:
Lagos as a former federal capital territory deserves a special status for the purpose of revenue sharing in order to manage the huge challenges that was inherited from the relocation of the country's capital. This is in line with best practises all over the world. But unfortunately, tribalism, hatred and outright jealousy will not allow the law makers take the right decision.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by SaffronSpice: 4:58pm On Oct 05, 2016
codemaniacs:


northern nations were not spared they were used by the colonialists to start war against other kingdoms but they couldn't overrun the oyo kingdom then the british created mistrust within the yorubas which led to the yoruba civil war then the same british were attacking the yorubas from the south(oceans) but the yorubas decided to stop fighting and the british won......

but the yorubas then concentrated on fighting the fulanis.. the fulanis were almost overrun by the yorubas but the stepped in and stopped the war when they realized the yorubas were winning..

the colonialists always favored fulanis they were never spared..
Nice post,bro.
But Ibadans single-handedly fought the Fulanis and not all the Yoruba sub-groups collectively.
If they had stopped their internecine wars and united,Ilorin would have been liberated and the Fulanis chased away.
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by naijalander: 4:58pm On Oct 05, 2016
caracas:

Yorubas developed Lagos yet it is a known fact that igbos own 55% of the lands pls Where in Lagos can u mention that was developed by yorubas .
Cos i can mention several places developed by the federal government n the igbos.

If you could mention them, you would have. Who gave you that statistic? Nigerians are full of exaggeration.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by naijalander: 5:04pm On Oct 05, 2016
DIFY20:
dis yourba people sef ...

dey want some percent from federal government wat of other state...why are this people so self centered.


after they will come and tell us that tinubu and co develop lagos were as lagos was former capital dat was develop with nigeria common wealth money...

ofonjas are too lazy that they want every thing to be done for them.... no they should give lagos 50% not 1% mtchewww ... ingretes


useless people

for me southern nigeria remains south east and south south ... i hate everything about Yorubas

lagos state suppose to be contributing to others state because

upon all the monopoly that lagos state is enjoying this ofonjas are still not satisfied....

Lagos state carries Nigeria's economic baggage. You are an ethnocentric fool! see you talking as though Lagos is inhabited by Yoruba people alone.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by codemaniacs: 5:04pm On Oct 05, 2016
Eastactivist:


Are you partially mentally stable?

Did you hear me use must in my contest?
Please quote me in context not out of context.

Lagos like I said is in position to assist and help other member state not disfranchise them indirectly with that kind of bills.

And for your own benefit, Lagos is independent of the allocation. The internal revenue got from taxes is its strength not mere paltry allocation.

I intentionally used must grin grin because that is what you truly mean grin grin grin

Lagos is in a position to assist other SW states not states outside the SW... same way Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa ibom and Delta are in position to help the SE states but even some SE states are more developed than them...

Its about how you spend what you have to develop yourself.. its about been selfish.. nothing stops this states from building state owned refineries except themselves.. they are happy to be collecting crumbs from people that hate them despite the cake been in their backyard..
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by naijalander: 5:05pm On Oct 05, 2016
Magicc:
What about Calabar?



Calabar was admin HQ for the old Southern protectorate waay before the word "Nigeria" was even coined. The comparison cannot be made.
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by NaijaFutbol: 5:05pm On Oct 05, 2016
nevilbot:


Germany operates[b] a federal system where each state is independent[/b] and contribute tax to the federal centre. Part of this tax that goes to the German Federal govt goes the Bonn city. 6 out of the 15 German ministries are still left in Bonn. The German Chancellor and the German President still has a second govt office in Bonn. Unesco head quarters which was to be built in Berlin was moved to Bonn cus of this and by extension the united Nations university was also established in bonn. A new university, Bonn Rhein seig university of applied science was also built in Bonn by d federal govt to compensate for moving d capital. Bonn is still referred to as a federal city till tomorrow.

Do u still want more facts?

You should be telling your country to emulate the independent state system.
Where Naval headquarters will be in a port city and not in Abuja.

If all you can pick out from the Bonn-Berlin Germany relationship is the need to send 1% of Nigeria's revenue to Lagos, then I give up.
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by codemaniacs: 5:08pm On Oct 05, 2016
SaffronSpice:

Nice post,bro.
But Ibadans single-handedly fought the Fulanis and not all the Yoruba sub-groups collectively.
If they had stopped their internecine wars and united,Ilorin would have been liberated and the Fulanis chased away.

Ilorin was liberated already that's why the brits stepped in and stopped the war.. the yorubas were fighting on 3 fronts(the fulanis, civil war, and the british) but they realized that if they stop the civil war and defeat the fulanis.. they would be able to focus on the british but the british saw through their plan and acted swiftly..

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by caracas: 5:08pm On Oct 05, 2016
codemaniacs:


No one owns Land.. Land owners pay land use tax... so igbos are welcome to own 90% of the lands in Lagos but in the end they pay tax to the yorubas... so igbos can keep "developing" other peoples land and at the same time paying tax to those people..

I hope one day you own mansions in Lagos.. so that we can also collect tax from you grin grin grin
Every Person or persons who reside in Lagos is supposed to Pay tax to the government of Lagos state n not yorubas .yorubas Pay tax ,igbos Pay tax,hausas Pay tax .But the land we own is ours ,until we decide to do away with it .

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by arresa: 5:08pm On Oct 05, 2016
OBAGADAFFI:



You probably dont know the mean of the myth.

As at today most refined petroleum product entering Nigeria lands first in Lagos
80% if imported product coming through the Sea, come through Lagos.

If all other seaports are getting just 80% of Lagos traffic most importers/exporters won't dream of Lagos.



The last time i checked Ogun state got more industries than Lagos, but you won't Notice it because Ogun is far Bigger in landmass.





Unfortunately for you and your kind with such ignorant and childish understanding.

Lagos being transit or entry point for goods means nothing and contributes little or nothing to Lagos state.

In what way anything landing in n Lagos contributes anything? Are all the goods going to be sold and consumed in Lagos or is Lagos taxing the buyers and sellers of the same goods in your village, in Kano, maiduguri, lokoja, enugu, ondo or oyo .

What is the meaning of this thoughtless and bogus argument?

Lagos state's economic power is from industries, factories, banking and finance, goods and services, entertainment and so on and these activities was there before independence and before Nigeria as a country and even the same reason the FC was moved there in the first place.


Sad that many of you with zero knowledge about your own country just wont shut up..

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by codemaniacs: 5:10pm On Oct 05, 2016
caracas:

Every Person or persons who reside in Lagos is supposed to Pay tax to the government of Lagos state n not yorubas .yorubas Pay tax ,igbos Pay tax,hausas Pay tax .But the land we own is ours ,until we decide to do away with it .

Yorubas pay tax so that it won't seem one sided grin grin grin
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by naijalander: 5:11pm On Oct 05, 2016
DerrickzB:



Hear urself... what of calabar?.... U r talking... states that has been d mainstream of d evonomy.nkor... U people are all sell out... We don't have time to shout on such bill... Am a niger delatan... u guys n d northerners would soon fight n die


Calabar was simply administrative HQ for the old British Southern Protectorate, it was never actually a capital in the strict sense of the word. Neither was Lokoja. The comparison cannot be made sir.
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by DerrickzB: 5:11pm On Oct 05, 2016
NameCheckers:
lol Abeg no tire for All yoruba people... Thr r some good ones amongst dem. cool No mind those imbeciles u dey c here for NL.


Lolz... as u don talk. I no go vex again wink
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by Eastactivist: 5:13pm On Oct 05, 2016
codemaniacs:


I intentionally used must grin grin because that is what you truly mean grin grin grin

Lagos is in a position to assist other SW states not states outside the SW... same way Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa ibom and Delta are in position to help the SE states but even the some SE states are more developed than them...

Its about how you spend what you have to develop yourself.. its about been selfish.. nothing stops this states from building state owned refineries except themselves.. they are happy to be collecting crumbs from people that hate them despite the cake been in their backyard..

You are an ingrate very tribalistic and selfish...

Do or do not the other people from other state outside sw have one or more investments in Lagos... You see why I said everyone should invest in his origin before investing in Lagos... Because ungrateful souls like you will want to harness every goodies to themselves....

I tend to ask, Why are all Yoruba's omonilies even in their thinking and education they are parasites and think only for themselves not minding their humble lame beginning and the fingers that fed them.

I spit on them one by one they don't deserve any goodwill from other ethnicities... No wonder the bail failed woefully...

Imagine this ingrate, so Lagos can support lazy and poor state in sw but not outside southwest...

Hope those reading comments are seeing this reasoning. Am done.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by caracas: 5:13pm On Oct 05, 2016
arresa:




Unfortunately for you and your kind with such ignorant and childish understanding.

Lagos being transit or entry point for goods means nothing and contributes little or nothing to Lagos state.

In what way anything landing in n Lagos contributes anything? Are all the goods going to be sold and consumed in Lagos or is Lagos taxing the buyers and sellers of the same goods in your village, in Kano, maiduguri, lokoja, enugu, ondo or oyo .

What is the meaning of this thoughtless and bogus argument?

Lagos state's economic power is from industries, factories, banking and finance, goods and services, entertainment and so on and these activities was there before independence and before Nigeria as a country and even the same reason the FC was moved there in the first place.


Sad that many of you with zero knowledge about your own country just wont shut up..
Pls What are the names of the banks n industries that were in Lagos before nigeria became a country?

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by DerrickzB: 5:14pm On Oct 05, 2016
naijalander:



Calabar was simply administrative HQ for the old British Southern Protectorate, it was never actually a capital in the strict sense of the word. Neither was Lokoja. The comparison cannot be made sir.


Guy leave much talks... they r states doing far better than lag to the country as a whole... Are u justifying what remi tinubu proposed as Ethical?.. Then i wonder what some states would ask for..

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by naijalander: 5:16pm On Oct 05, 2016
arisanate:
And the worst part is that after killing those leaders , these guys didnt put up a fight. COWARDS....

it is easy to call a Yoruba guy coward via an online forum.

Most of the leaders mentioned were in fact corrupt. The people of South Western Nigerian (not just Yorubas, Igbos included, many of them reside in the SW and they love it!) are the most open minded and progressive people on the African continent. They are not easily swayed by emotional appeal, not even money, each man thinks for himself in anticipation of the overall progress of the country.

Unlike some people we know, we are not easily drawn into war, we have 16 years civil war history to prove that. You are indeed an ethnocentric fool if you believe violence is the only way to achieve vengeance. Whatever the Northern leaders did in the past, their people are still paying for it via the Boko Haram insurgency and their many miseries up North.

People like you irritate me.

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by Dejiih001(m): 5:20pm On Oct 05, 2016
seunmsg:
Lagos as a former federal capital territory deserves a special status for the purpose of revenue sharing in order to manage the huge challenges that was inherited from the relocation of the country's capital. This is in line with best practises all over the world. But unfortunately, tribalism, hatred and outright jealousy will not allow the law makers take the right decision.

Oya bring that your head here you really deserve this!

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by naijalander: 5:21pm On Oct 05, 2016
DerrickzB:



Guy leave much talks... they r states doing far better than lag to the country as a whole... Are u justifying what remi tinubu proposed as Ethical?.. Then i wonder what some states would ask for..

I believe that is their way a requesting more independence. Federalism will happen eventually and the rejection of this bill is a sign of whats to come. To be objective, I find Eastern secession as a joke! if there is any place that has the power to secede in Naija, it is Lagos state (am not talking about Yoruba people alone). This is because it has enough cultural heritage, financial might and can easily muster a loyal army which is NOT divided along tribal lines. So yes it is quite ethical, Lagos already carries the baggage of the cost of economic activities in Nigeria, why should the state not enjoy 1% of the national cake, it is her divine right!

Which states in Naija can boast of a melting point of Naija cultures. Most of these other states are run by oligarchs.
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by codemaniacs: 5:23pm On Oct 05, 2016
Eastactivist:


You are an ingrate very tribalistic and selfish...

Do or do not the other people from other state outside sw have one or more investments in Lagos... You see why I said everyone should invest in his origin before investing in Lagos... Because ungrateful souls like you will want to harness every goodies to themselves....

I tend to ask, Why are all Yoruba's omonilies even in their thinking and education they are parasites and think only for themselves not minding their humble lame beginning and the fingers that fed them.

I spit on them one by one they don't deserve any goodwill from other ethnicities... No wonder the bail failed woefully...

Imagine this ingrate, so Lagos can support lazy and poor state in sw but not outside southwest...

Hope those reading comments are seeing this reasoning. Am done.


you are the ingrate... yorubas created a peaceful environment for themselves but non-indigenes started trooping there and yorubas had no choice but to collect taxes from them..

You can't own a house or business in developed countries without paying tax why aren't you calling developed countries ingrates since they harness the talents of migrants... the english top football league is dominated by foreigners because the foreigners make the league attractive and they are making money from the league and the foreigners in their league grin grin

that is how a civilized environment works grin grin

I hope you already own a mansion in Lagos grin grin If you don't pls work harder, I pray Lagos makes you a billionaire and you own mansions so that you can pay more tax grin grin
Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by naijalander: 5:24pm On Oct 05, 2016
Eastactivist:


You are an ingrate very tribalistic and selfish...

Do or do not the other people from other state outside sw have one or more investments in Lagos... You see why I said everyone should invest in his origin before investing in Lagos... Because ungrateful souls like you will want to harness every goodies to themselves....

I tend to ask, Why are all Yoruba's omonilies even in their thinking and education they are parasites and think only for themselves not minding their humble lame beginning and the fingers that fed them.

I spit on them one by one they don't deserve any goodwill from other ethnicities... No wonder the bail failed woefully...

Imagine this ingrate, so Lagos can support lazy and poor state in sw but not outside southwest...

Hope those reading comments are seeing this reasoning. Am done.



"Why are all Yoruba's omonilies" ---> where did you get this?that all Yorubas are omo oniles? Don't you have land grabbers in the East too??

Yoruba people are victims of omo oniles as much as everybody else. If you weren't so blinded by tribalism and jealousy, you'd know this.

You sir are the one who is a tribalist. GOD himself spits on your sad soul!

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by Forwetinnah: 5:26pm On Oct 05, 2016
"The bill was rejected in a rowdy session"..Oya na, make me I start my own rowdy laughter
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Na why the crack head been want him stooges to dey everywhere. Gbaja, Falake and co carrying out his greedy plans to get everything for himself...maybe, just maybe Remi thought with Saraki being in court today, the opportunity to do timbo timbo baskalaba will work. Wosai!! grin

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Re: Senate Rejects Tinubu's Bill Seeking Special Grants For Lagos by naijalander: 5:30pm On Oct 05, 2016
arresa:




Unfortunately for you and your kind with such ignorant and childish understanding.

Lagos being transit or entry point for goods means nothing and contributes little or nothing to Lagos state.

In what way anything landing in n Lagos contributes anything? Are all the goods going to be sold and consumed in Lagos or is Lagos taxing the buyers and sellers of the same goods in your village, in Kano, maiduguri, lokoja, enugu, ondo or oyo .

What is the meaning of this thoughtless and bogus argument?

Lagos state's economic power is from industries, factories, banking and finance, goods and services, entertainment and so on and these activities was there before independence and before Nigeria as a country and even the same reason the FC was moved there in the first place.


Sad that many of you with zero knowledge about your own country just wont shut up..


Yes. Most of Nigeria's produce is in fact consumed in Lagos state. Proof is in population, the more people, the more consumers. Which one of us has 0 knowledge? The ethnocentric fool basing his points or tribal animosity? (that's you in case you did not decode). I 100 containers land in Apapa today, at least 60 of those containers will be sold in Lagos, that sounds like a majority to me. What exactly are you on about?

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