oluagness:
1. we are planning to grade our street road. each house is to pay #5000. a building is occupied by a tenant, the tenant said his landlord is to pay the money.
who should be responsible for the payment?

2. Notting is working in our area, we have challenges on our transformer often and have to contribute for the maintenance. who should be responsible for this?

first of all neither should pay cos dats d govts job.
in a tenancy agreement u hv implied and express convenants.
implied convenants are agreements the court will hold against d party who broke d convenant irrespective of whether it ws expressly stated e.g its implied dat a tenant should pay rent or implied dat a landlord should provide a habitable accommodation etc
Express convenants needs to be expressly stated before any party can be in breach e g tarring of roads, dr must be an express agreement to that in a case dr is none no party should be held liable.
so the landlord nd d tenant need to reach an agreement on how it should be done

Both !

Both...

1 landlord 2 tenant

NickDirect:


Lol... If I was in charge of the road repair I will ensure you there not pass that road again and just remain in the compound you paid rent for.

yimu...its government road,no one can stop me from passing...if government does not fix the road,I ain't paying nadda

celestialAgent:
what nonsense, will the tenant live there forever?

The tenant that is probably hustling hard to own a house, then you want him to spend on things that will favour him for a short time and favour the landlord on a long run..

It the job of the landlord apparently because he would not hesitate to increase the rent for the next tenant should the facilities be in place.

come to think of it, what if the tenant has no car?

Gbam! Nigerian mentality @ the bold text.

[quote author=celestialAgent post=49956353]what nonsense, will the tenant live there forever?

The tenant that is probably hustling hard to own a house, then you want him to spend on things that will favour him for a short time and favour the landlord on a long run..

It the job of the landlord apparently because he would not hesitate to increase the rent for the next tenant should the facilities be in place.

come to think of it, what if the tenant has no car?[/quotu

Then such Tenant with such mindset will never buy a car in his /her lifetime! If u do good u do for self. If u do bad same.

What if u ve an emergency. BC ur type refuse to repair d road ur person Abi u self fit die BC of bad road u refuse ur megear contribution.

eph12:

Roads and electricity are not temporary. The tenant can pack out tomorrow.

He said grading... That's temporary
Transformer repairs... Thats temporary.


Making Road(Taring)... Thats Parmanent
Installing a Transformer... Thats Parmanent.


Landlords takes care of Parmanent infrastructures while
Tenants can take care of the Temporary infrastructures.

celestialAgent:
what nonsense, will the tenant live there forever?

The tenant that is probably hustling hard to own a house, then you want him to spend on things that will favour him for a short time and favour the landlord on a long run..

It the job of the landlord apparently because he would not hesitate to increase the rent for the next tenant should the facilities be in place.

come to think of it, what if the tenant has no car?

bros ur brain dey work well ooh na only u Don make sense for here.

celestialAgent:
what nonsense, will the tenant live there forever?

The tenant that is probably hustling hard to own a house, then you want him to spend on things that will favour him for a short time and favour the landlord on a long run..

It the job of the landlord apparently because he would not hesitate to increase the rent for the next tenant should the facilities be in place.

come to think of it, what if the tenant has no car?

You have valid points.

for road linkages, the Landlords should bear the cost.

however on the issue of electricity, water and security, the Tenants can bear the total cost if the Landlord does not live within the premises.

E be onye bi ka ona awachi op hope u understand anyway tenant and Landlord if landlord lives in same house

Once the tenants fix that road, the coast of rent that area will increase. So who benefits more? If the landlords can increase the rent cos the area is now OK. Then they should be the ones to fix it. There house is on that area for God's sake, the tenant is not the owner of the house nd has nothing to lose as he or she can park out from there anytime

You have said it all case closed

Gboliwe:
Both of them can split the cost. I was at one highbrow street the other day, looking for a house. So, the agent took me there. Fine houses, serene environment. I was excited until i learnt that most of the houses were unoccupied because that street has no light.

The transformer blew since August last year and most tenants felt NEPA demands were too much. As soon as they could, they moved away to another street/environment.

Now, the loss is on the landlords. Most tenants won't rent there.

Thought nepa has been privatised. So people still contribute to repair transformers? Just like saying people should contribute to repair telcoms masts. Fake privatisation.

Am Pretty sure you can't be hold to pay the cost of what a prostitute paid to treat herself because you slept with her thus you paid her for her service! Am not saying prostitution is proper or going for one but in like manner is the tennant and landlord! You pay to live in that house but not to pay for the regrading or road cost cause the land lord in qoute can quick notice you leave after you maintain his property just like how a prostitute can dump for another guy anytime! In one sense that does not mean you ain't gonna buy food or drinks perhaps stuff when you're with the prostitute before she redenders her service then leave likewise there are some minor things you can do while living in that rented house you live!
For those who are wise!

What will happen if the tenant pack or relocated ? Will he pay for another fee in another area?

celestialAgent:
what nonsense, will the tenant live there forever?

The tenant that is probably hustling hard to own a house, then you want him to spend on things that will favour him for a short time and favour the landlord on a long run..

It the job of the landlord apparently because he would not hesitate to increase the rent for the next tenant should the facilities be in place.

come to think of it, what if the tenant has no car?

The grading of the road will preserve the sole of their shoes

feldido:


He said grading... That's temporary
Transformer repairs... Thats temporary.


Making Road(Taring)... Thats Parmanent
Installing a Transformer... Thats Parmanent.


Landlords takes care of Parmanent infrastructures while
Tenants can take care of the Temporary infrastructures.

Roads are done by govt not landlord
Transformers are installed by discos not landlord.

The landlord is to pay. The tenant goes away at the expiration of the tenancy agreement. However, for the tenant's comfort, there is no harm done if financially sound.

feldido:
The Tenant should be responsible for things like that because they are temporary things.

Are yu serious? It's grading of road and yu call that temporary?

A tenant is only responsible to the interior of the house by the normal terms of tenancy.

The road is classify exclusive and also could be called common propert. Landlord should pay for it. They can mutually share the cost as well if tenants is happy with it.

nymphomaniac:
What does the tenancy agreement say? What state are u?. Covenant to pay rates may be inserted in the agreement to favor either the landlord or tenant or may be implied by law depending on the state.

Government rates not community levies like this one

In a sane state, local govt chairman takes care of the road. Since we are in a non sane state, all landlords on the street has to contribute for the road. Reason: tenants have the sole responsibility of working to pay their house rent and maintain the house they live in. There are certain things that the landlord is meant to take care of within the house when damaged, if the tenant repairs it, should be deducted frm the house rent. The tenant is there temporarily and could decide to move out any day.

feldido:


He said grading... That's temporary
Transformer repairs... Thats temporary.


Making Road(Taring)... Thats Parmanent
Installing a Transformer... Thats Parmanent.


Landlords takes care of Parmanent infrastructures while
Tenants can take care of the Temporary infrastructures.

If the landlord had taken care of tarring the road there wouldn't be need for grading.

oluagness:
1. we are planning to grade our street road. each house is to pay #5000. a building is occupied by a tenant, the tenant said his landlord is to pay the money.
who should be responsible for the payment?

2. Notting is working in our area, we have challenges on our transformer often and have to contribute for the maintenance. who should be responsible for this?

The landlord is responsible for the N5000. Services directly enjoyed by the tenant is what they pay for, like Power rate, water rate, psp etc.

Are we saying the tenants should be responsible for repairs and maintenance of the house?

Transformers maintenance and repairs should be paid for by the landlord. Even if the pumping machine goes faulty, he should fix it. The rents paid to him is for repairs and maintenance of the house and not for him to spent it all on himself and family.

oluagness:
1. we are planning to grade our street road. each house is to pay #5000. a building is occupied by a tenant, the tenant said his landlord is to pay the money.
who should be responsible for the payment?

2. Notting is working in our area, we have challenges on our transformer often and have to contribute for the maintenance. who should be responsible for this?

[size=14pt]nigeria, a country where government tax citizens and yet citizens still bear the cost of social amenities. later some one will come here and ask "what have you done for nigeria". every nigerian have done enough for this country. i weep....[/size]

do you have a car?

If the answer is yes, try as much as possible to pay the N5000 for your personal convenience.

But if you don't have a car yet and you don't plan to get anyone soon, do NOT pay shi-shi. You're neither the local government chairman nor a part of the landlord association.

Just use the N5000 on your own personal building. N5000 will get you about 3 bags of cement or 50 blocks.

Remember that your landlord will eventually drive on that road to collect the next rent from you.

Lol ,Op i'm sure you live in Lagos so many tenancy bottle-neck,road repairs it's suppose to be the duty of the local government buh since the system doesn't work do not fight or argue kindly have it split,on d issue of the transformer the case is everywhere.

eph12:

Roads and electricity are not temporary. The tenant can pack out tomorrow.

Road grading is basically an annual thing. Done once the rains subside.
Transformer wahala is almost a monthly thing in many areas too. So they are hardly permanent in 9ja setting. Since the tenant's rent contract is not running out today or tomorrow, he has to pay. Remember the landlord is not govt either and has probably provided a borehole at his own cost.

But I for one will split the bill with the tenant. Because if I need to evict him he cannot be able to say he paid Road grading cost alone.

To all those saying that in saner climes, govt provides everything bla bla bla! Yes we know. We also know that there is nothing sane about Nigeria, so spare us the lecture. If it so pains you, when next you visit, carry a placard and protest, afterall you lots ascribe illiterate status to Nigerian residents so you can do well to help them fight for their rights which they apparently do not know a thing about . You have families here too, so you'd be doing them great service by fighting for the downtrodden.

Back to the matter. Landlord should pay for the road just like he pays tenement rate whether he lives there or not. The tenant should pay for the electricity maintenance.

eph12:

If the landlord had taken care of tarring the road there wouldn't be need for grading.

In a working government, Tarring the roads and installing a transformer is the government to bear, same as repairs and maintenance.