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Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by WaZoBiaLander: 12:33pm On Oct 06, 2016
VampireeM:
Some politicians have access to forex from their sitting room at the official rate meanwhile manufacturers are crawling for forex just to import machineries and co.. PMB and his economic team needs to hide their heads in shame.. Just in a year and some months PMB took over power, almost a million Nigerians have lost their jobs due to their archaic policies..
#IncompetentGovt!

ALMOST A MILLION?
BRO, ACCORDING TO NATIONAL BUREAU OF STATISTICS (NBS), ABOUT 4.58 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS UNDER THIS GOVT IN JUST A YEAR AND FEW MONTHS...VERY PATHETIC.

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Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by Izonpikin: 12:54pm On Oct 06, 2016
ideology:
CBN has been changing policies almost every quarter, very bad no stabilily

The same CBn will provide Forex for mecca travellers but will not provide Forex for manufacturers, who does that in recession, unless there are cabals and powers beyond him
tired of the cluelessness...

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Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by ideology(m): 12:56pm On Oct 06, 2016
Izonpikin:
tired of the cluelessness...

I thought Gej was the clueless one.

Enjoy your change cheesy
Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by Izonpikin: 1:00pm On Oct 06, 2016
ideology:


I thought Gej was the clueless one.

Enjoy your change cheesy
grin grin grin grin..i am anti buhari admin...

all i just want to see is true federalism practiced...
Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by ideology(m): 1:19pm On Oct 06, 2016
Izonpikin:
grin grin grin grin..i am anti buhari admin...

all i just want to see is true federalism practiced...
it may not work, Nigeria today is even more fragmented than Nigeria as at 1970


Interest is too much, eg Rauf was blasted for visiting Fayose, same yoruba, same region, imagine that!

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Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by Izonpikin: 1:32pm On Oct 06, 2016
ideology:
it may not work, Nigeria today is even more fragmented than Nigeria as at 1970


Interest is too much, eg Rauf was blasted for visiting Fayose, same yoruba, same region, imagine that!
then we get a nuclear bomb and start from the beginning... grin grin grin grin
Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by ideology(m): 1:56pm On Oct 06, 2016
Izonpikin:
then we get a nuclear bomb and start from the beginning... grin grin grin grin
just be focused on your business and help others as much as you can.
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Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by TijaniAbu: 7:19pm On Oct 06, 2016
Erisco foods is threatening to leave Nigeria and go where? After delivering such huge bribes to Aisha Cassandra Halliburton that cannot be easily refunded from FG money? They should go. Goodbye Erisco.
Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by RedCapChief(m): 7:39pm On Oct 06, 2016
mare23ayo:
MadamExcellency blueto SharkTank

is he saying he can't convince the CBN governor who is from the East to release forex? this is a manufacturing company for crying out loud.... The CBN is Autonomous for fund release so I believe there's more to it that we don't know


Godwin Emefiele is not from the East. He is from the South-South
Please go and revise your history and geography
Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by Nobody: 8:47pm On Oct 06, 2016
carmag:


I'm ain't home based bro, but I do follow up all the happenings down there..




back to the matter

are you saying if it's religious matters they'll be told there's shortage of dollars...pls respond to this....
Is just d country we live in, we have misplace priority. But wat u sud know is that religious bodies don't ask for dollars every month as the manufactoring companies. Left to me, I wud say govt should stop sponsoring all religious activities.
Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by rmx1: 8:02am On Oct 08, 2016
jjman2322:
Ok i feel like its time for me to come in with some much needed clarifications..

We are in the manufacturing business (medicine), and we have been hit hard, probably lost around $500,000 this year..
Let me explain:


#1. First of all, NO MACHINERY can be made locally. We use high end machines that cost $100,000's that are only made in China & India.. Has Nigeria even managed to make a TV, talkless of heavy duty machines..

#2. Raw materials for our pharmaceutical production are 100% imported. To make ampicillin capsule you need ampicillin powder. To make amoxicillin capsule, you need amoxicillin powder, etc. These powders are not made in Nigeria. Heck, there are only a few of these factories in the whole world. The factory to make ampicillin would cost tens of millions of dollars, and you wouldnt be able to compete with Chinese prices.

#3. Let me get to how manufacturers source forex. For Machine,raw material imports, you either get funds by :

a. BILL FOR COLLECTION (Where the supplier ships the machine/raw materials to us, and we submit documents to CBN to pay them dollars),
b. LETTER OF CREDIT (Where CBN deducts or naira, and send dollars to the supplier's bank in advance.)

#4. We have dozens of BILLS FOR COLLECTIONS pending across all banks in Nigeria. Basically what this means is that for example a supplier sent a container of ampicillin powder, value of say $250,000, we used the goods and submitted the document to our bank.
Five months later the bank is yet to give us any dollar. We now had to resort to buying black market at N450 for goods that have been used and sold thinking that we were going to get dollar @ 310.

Let me explain this again, lets say for ampicillin capsule you need 1kg of powder per packet. In january you use

1kg of powder X $30/kg = $30. (Multiply this by 310 and you get N9,300). You go ahead and sell this packet in the market for N12,000 for a nice profit of almost N3000. BUT WAIT!!

The official funds never come from your bank, your supplier needs payment so he can continue shipping, otherwise your business closes down. You now go to black market and buy the $30 (@ N450 rate = 13,500). You have just lost N1,500.

Now I just gave you a small example. Multiply this 1kg by 20,000 tons, and now you can see how manufacturers have lost money and closed down. We also had to fire dozens of people just to keep costs down.

What people dont know is that the dollars are NOT enough.. For every $1,000 needed by manufacturers, the CBN has only $100 to give.

Want to know the worst thing? That sample ampicillin packet example I gave you is being imported by some people straight from China. They are importing the finished product, and finished products have no duty.

So basically if you import the raw material as a manufacturer, some of the materials have duty up to 40%, meanwhile if you just have it made in China you bring it in duty free.

Want to know the funniest thing? Many of these importers have connections/bribe top bank officials so that same ampicillin you sold for N13,000 is being sold by N10,000 because they got their funds @ 310.

Please ask any questions if you guys have, but this country has some of the worst policies I've ever seen.

The fact that manufacturers have to buy black market, coupled with the fact its much cheaper to just import the finished product is ridiculous.. More companies are going to close.. We are making essential medicines yet we are almost closing, I can only imagine how other industries are doing..

Hmmm.interesting ,I see we are in similar industries ,pharma manufacturing .i feel ur pain ,can relate 100 % with what u have said

But I have a different slant or view ,I see opportunities instead ,will not mention on a public forum how much we have lost and it's much due to the reasons u stated .

It's an opportunity to gain market share from competitors as everybody struggles with the dollar issue ,both local producers and importers ,make no mistake ,there is scarcity of products in the market by both importers and local manufacturers ,it is the well prepared that will take this opportunity ,a lot of planning and creative thinking should be involved ,the way it is now ,u must be keeping stocks of raw materials now for 4 to 6 months if u have the capacity ,personally started early by converting loose funds to raw material last quarter 2015 ,and throughout 1st and 2nd quarter 2016,when I saw the way the writing on the wall

Having a buffer stock of raw and packaging materials for months ,allows u not to be desperate to buy dollars urgently at this crazy black market rates ,allows me wait for my pending lc at the banks for months ,have more than 12lc in various banks ,one as long as February shocked shocked

One more thing ,don't entirely agree u can't compete with importers ,for most of the products I do my prices are better than imported products and am getting great sales ,my strategy from the beginning of this year is lower margins and a higher turnover and it's working
Even with the etls that made imported products duty zero last year ,remember the rise in $ affects the cost of the imported products more than the local ,because for the importers it affects them 100% for local manufacturer it affects a part of our cost ,raw and packaging ,and this might be btw 30 to 70% depending on the product ,that difference allows me do the above
Maybe when my betalactam factory under construction is completed next year ,I will find out if this plays out in that field also.also note I have two other factories I run ,not pharma and I apply same ,it's challenging no doubt ,involves months of planning .i figured u must be either running the J or N factory in Enugu ,I think the N ,am sure u do a lot of business with sankil ,ask them about me ,they mentioned doing business with u ,all the best bro ,it is A tough year for businesses

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Re: Forex: Erisco Foods Threatens To Fire 1,500 Workers, Leave Nigeria by geraob1: 11:02am On Oct 10, 2016
menix:


E be like say nah dust una chop for house this morning

Abeg no drink water ooo, make e no bake inside ur brain..

U still de yan dust.

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