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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 9:05pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
giles14: Sorry I don't understand what you mean by agro. |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by chinese8107: 9:19pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Cirrus SR20/22 is also for private use in USA
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 10:01pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
China's Z-20 Medium helo (Black Hawk clone)
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 10:08pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
tdayof:sorry was for another thread |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Flames08: 10:24pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Clone spelt backwards is "Chinese" ![]() 1 Like
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by M14A1: 11:35pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
What is the cost of a super mushak? Anybody? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 1:17am On Oct 07, 2016 |
Flames08:woaw ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by chinese8107: 7:06am On Oct 07, 2016 |
Flames08: backward is probably not only China. How many country can make a" blackhawk" with all technology blocked by USA ? The Chinese version blackhawk is equipt with more powerfull engine than the original US one. The original version's Service ceiling: 19,000 ft (5,790 m),while the Chinese "clone" version is higher,the main rotor speaks. At least China aleady catched up,in some fields even have overtaken . 1 Like |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 8:13am On Oct 07, 2016 |
chinese8107:d blackhawk will b retired and replaced by d V280 soon |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by chinese8107: 8:57am On Oct 07, 2016 |
giles14:yes, but it is still not obsloe for many country,isn't it ? comparing with mi-17. . And I don't think it will totoally retire soon,for transport or commercial use ect, as smaller helicopter still exist.V-22 or V280 entering service doesn't mean other helicopter must retire in fact Russia is considering cooperating with China to build a heavy helicopter with 38tons taking off weight.That would be heavier than CH-47 and CH53E
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 9:29am On Oct 07, 2016 |
chinese8107:d mil 26 is heavier than both d ch47 n ch53.and d heavier helo to b developed is a derivative of d mil 26 |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by chinese8107: 9:39am On Oct 07, 2016 |
giles14:you may say that. but China has it's own 5000kw engine for helicopter with 20 tons payload. even if Russia don't help,just a matter of time. Turth mi-26 is 56 tons the heaviest helicopter ever exist,but it's payload is still 20 tons,due to old inefficient design and material used. why Russia wanna" help" China,because they see the chance getting benefits during the cooperation.rather than sitting idle see a competitor coming but doing nothing 1 Like
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 11:22am On Oct 07, 2016 |
chinese8107:I agree with u. mostly benefit interms of financial relief. if u think u have d technology know how y not do it on ur own |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by chinese8107: 11:27am On Oct 07, 2016 |
giles14:benefits could be financial or technology exchange,ect. |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:44pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
chinese8107: the only reason is financial . Russians need hard cash the reason why the Russians sold SU35 given the risk of Chinese stealing the SU35 tech for their J20, mostly avionics related. same goes for S400 SAMs. |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:01pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
nemesis2u: The T-50 is basically an SU-35 in stealth design and coating. I wonder how it would perform against the F-22. |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:48pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Henry240: no from where did u get the idea , SU 35 is basically an advanced version of SU30SM, mostly dealing with advanced avionics and computing and a good bit of sensor fusion thrown in in addition to the optimization & tweaking of the air frame and the FBW . in some words they are/have tested some of the to be incorporated T50 tech into the SU35 . a proving ground/platform u might say for the T50 TECH and they decided to monetized it by getting it in production as SU35. nothing to loose because they got a SUPER-SU30SM (SU35) and they also get to market it as a different class of aircraft ![]() its basically a great game of deception the Russians r playing/played successful atleast for reaping good financial dividends . dont always follow the usual narrative being played out. russians r great chess players , they plan many moves ahead ![]() as for the T50 guy incharge of translating the russian technical doc into english had lot of interesting things to say. ![]() |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:52pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
a US F16 in the gunsights of SU30 MKI during a exercise ![]()
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:54pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Israeli Air Force "Shaldag" Commandos 1 Like
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 6:55pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
nemesis2u:Whose su30 is that? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 6:56pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Henry240:Just like nemesis mentioned , I'll consider su35 a technology demonstrator for the t50 |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:59pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
tdayof: SU30MKI= India |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:00pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
nemesis2u: Thanks for clearing that up. I got the idea from the link i posted on the T-50. Did you see the defenceforumindia link? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:02pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
@henry240 is finacle popular in Nigerian banking ? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 7:02pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
nemesis2u: Thanks. I look at numbers lol. I didn't notice the mki and didn't check to confirm my curiosity. |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:03pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
nemesis2u: In actual combat, that's "good-bye Vienna" for the SU-30mki. What did you make off the IAF's bragging of defeating British Eurofighters in the last exercise? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:04pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
nemesis2u: Yeah, that's what we use. We upgraded from Finnacle 7 to Finnacle 10 about 15 months ago. Why do you ask? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:08pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Henry240: lots of info available but u got to filter it and analyze it urself . there was good posters in DFI used to visit it years back , visit the tank/Armour thread there and go through the very old posts , very informative. lots of knowledgeable guys from all over the world used to post there. do u visit PDF ? ![]() |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:14pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Henry240: sir a certain section of media has a way of twisting news and changing the narrative . as far as i know IAF never issued such a statement or bragged or anything . this wrong perception came out because of misleading/wrong news reports from certain section of the media, plus quoting of anonymous sources etc etc. |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:18pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Henry240: ur a banker after all 99% verified ![]() on topic how about giving me a non refundable loan of 1 million $ only ![]() and i need it cleared by this weekend ![]() ![]() |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:29pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
nemesis2u: For a population of 1.3 billion people DFI is usually mostly deserted. It seems most Indians don't care too much about defence. I find it to be quite boring most times. Yes Sir, we are getting the JF-17, so yes i do. I mostly read up on the JF-17 from there. I also find the Russian, Turkish and Israeli forums/threads to be quite a draw. So, JF-17, Russia, Turkey and Israel. |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:30pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
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