Dereformer:


we will never align with the west politically. The Yorubas destroyed southern allegiance in 2015. We will rather align with the North than the Yorubas.

We will now remember all the insults we received from the Afonjas.

Buhari should think of choosing any body from SE or SS as VP and should start massive development of the regions. That way he will endeared himself to the people .

ivandragon:


read your initial post again & you should understand why I reacted the way I did.

you do not call me treacherous & expect a pat on the back. I only showed you that if you want to get into insults, there are repercussions for that.

now to your submissions;

1. agreed. but the same SW voted enmass for a SS president in 2011. why do we now begrudge them their choice in 2015?

in the SW, the race was a lot tighter than it appears which shows that quite a number of people there actually saw positives in GEJ or knew that PMB was not the better option.

those that will pay in the SW will be the leaders.

2. again, I agree with your submission here. but the North will only use the SS/SE against the SW which means the SS/SE will always be second fiddle & simply replace the SW as slaves.

I humbly feel that the new alliance should be one which will force a restructuring of Nigeria, economically, administratively & geographically, not just a political restructuring.

finally, if the support of the SW was needed to checkmate the dominance of the North & force a wholistic restructuring, I do not think that primary goal has changed. so it will be counter productive to sabotage a long term objective for vindictive purposes.

an alliance with the North just to get back at the SW will be a pyrrhic for the SS & SE.

bejeiodus:
Since his friends have betrayed him, he needs his hitherto political foes to fight them back.

Tinubi needs to choose his friends carefully this time before some power hungry politicians ride on his back to power and shove him aside again.

All the best to the Jagaban as he fights back the men who want him hanged by the neck.

donephi:
don't get it twisted, there were no 6 geo-political zones until the Obasanjo era, rather we had regions(western region, eastern region, northern region and middle-belt region) obasanjo wanted to break down the northern region and the region so we brought in the zones. When he was the president, Atiku and Mantu were the vice-president and deputy Senate president respectively. He said Mantu was from the north and the core-northerns(north east& west) disagreed. That was when the north-central new where they belong. For the South to take back power, it needs more than that. Our electoral system needs to be over-hauled. You don't expect me cos I registered for election in Kano state, during the elections if am in Anambra I can't vote. It shouldn't be that. It should be since you registered, you should anywhere. This single reason will always give the north an edge until it's changed.

SharkTank:


First off, even if you have a higher IQ than I (which I doubt vehemently), you are piss poor morally, I didn't insult you but you settled for emotional outbursts like a menstrating teenager.



Okay Oga history professor, the landscape of things have changed since the last elections, they are 2 new variables
[s]1....For the first time in Nigeria's history, the south south produced a president and you Yoruba betrayed them and sold out to the Hausa. There is no better reason for 2 people to be sworn enemies except for power. You guys have an enemy for life in the South south or at least till you pau what you owe[/s]


2.....For the first time in Nigeria's history since the civil war, the old eastern region (the present day south south and south east) have the same political goal and enemy. They already have cultural similarities but the political tie bonds. There is new-ish and emerging power bloc


Who helped produce that president in the first place?

Realman87:


Which united South. You must be Dreaming. the SS/SE will never work with SW. We will rather work with the North. In fact, Nigeria really belongs to the East+North.
When the colonialists were leaving, they balanced power by giving the President to Azikiwe; PM to Tafawa Balewa, Army GOC to Ironsi.
The SW were never in national politics, they were regional players and social critics. The balance of power was altered due to the coup and war. The East lost out and the SW took its place. This explains why the SW were very mad at Jonathan for resurrecting the East. They were hoping to retain the North+West balance of power; hence their 2015 betrayal of the South. Unfortunately and judging from History, Yorubas have never lasted at the centre. They cannot match the North, mind for mind. Only the Easterners can and the Northerners know this.

Thus, there will be no Southern alliance in 2019. The North will destroy the West as always and they will return to the East. The North+ East balance of power will be Restored PERMANENTLY and the SW will live in eternal regret. They have the media and mouth-power to continue their role as social critics.

sarrki:
Tinubu can't be humiliate

I know no one reign forever

But won't condone that for now

Children of hate and anger will soon troop in now

It's pure envies just because tinubu buried there hero

Politically

flokii:


are you minding those hate filled ones..

SW has VP, Finance minister, Fashola (very powerful portfolio) but they have nothing to show..

Papasmal:




Tinubu got what he deserve,.this is payback time for those he has betrayed,

he has for long betrayed the intresst of yoruba race for his selfish interest....I don't pity him.

Realman87:


Which united South. You must be Dreaming. the SS/SE will never work with SW. We will rather work with the North. In fact, Nigeria really belongs to the East+North.
When the colonialists were leaving, they balanced power by giving the President to Azikiwe; PM to Tafawa Balewa, Army GOC to Ironsi.
The SW were never in national politics, they were regional players and social critics. The balance of power was altered due to the coup and war. The East lost out and the SW took its place. This explains why the SW were very mad at Jonathan for resurrecting the East. They were hoping to retain the North+West balance of power; hence their 2015 betrayal of the South. Unfortunately and judging from History, Yorubas have never lasted at the centre. They cannot match the North, mind for mind. Only the Easterners can and the Northerners know this.

Thus, there will be no Southern alliance in 2019. The North will destroy the West as always and they will return to the East. The North+ East balance of power will be Restored PERMANENTLY and the SW will live in eternal regret. They have the media and mouth-power to continue their role as social critics.

ivandragon:


read your initial post again & you should understand why I reacted the way I did.

you do not call me treacherous & expect a pat on the back. I only showed you that if you want to get into insults, there are repercussions for that.

now to your submissions;

1. agreed. but the same SW voted enmass for a SS president in 2011. why do we now begrudge them their choice in 2015?

in the SW, the race was a lot tighter than it appears which shows that quite a number of people there actually saw positives in GEJ or knew that PMB was not the better option.

those that will pay in the SW will be the leaders.

2. again, I agree with your submission here. but the North will only use the SS/SE against the SW which means the SS/SE will always be second fiddle & simply replace the SW as slaves.

I humbly feel that the new alliance should be one which will force a restructuring of Nigeria, economically, administratively & geographically, not just a political restructuring.

finally, if the support of the SW was needed to checkmate the dominance of the North & force a wholistic restructuring, I do not think that primary goal has changed. so it will be counter productive to sabotage a long term objective for vindictive purposes.

an alliance with the North just to get back at the SW will be a pyrrhic for the SS & SE.

patriotic9jaboy:
The silent movement of a lion is not cowardice. Tinubu obviously has a plan B for his so called enemies. He has won several political battles and i trust him to come out victorious on this one. We will put an end to this born to rule caliphate in 2019 by aligning with our southern brothers. A united south can defeat the north any day. I trust Tinubu to come up with a contigent plan by 2019. GEJ dared him and today he is in otueke. Buhari should thread carefully

fulanimafia:
Tinubu will take over South East politics come 2019 at this rate, to fill the vacuum of a political leader for the region.

Rochas & Obiano watch out.

***Modified***

For those expressing puzzlement at my statement; it's simple.

As the East lacks a central political figure, Tinubu will have to take that place in order for the region to regain political relevance in 2019 and that possibility is getting stronger with the current permutations of a southern political bloc...except of course a heavy realignment occurs and the East takes Osibanjo's position in readiness for a 2023 eastern presidency.

The plot thickens.

ASL33:
These three names you mentioned now are anti sw at the moment. They are the once used in doing this hatchet job against Tinibu. How you guys cannot see this is beyond me. The only ally tinubu have now if Aragbe and if care is not taken they will harrass him to submission.

BraniacX:


Don't be stupid!
No alliance with the north will lasts as long as a united southern alliance simply because our interests in the south are very different from the interests of northerners and after they use you to secure power on the basis of a common political enemy in the southwest they'll discard you just like they're discarding tinubu and align with the southwest against you and the cycle will go on and on! So our common interests should be the only reason to align politically!
And when i talk abouth the north, I'm referring to the core north not the the middle belt and north central with whom we share common values too! Them we should reach out to and cultivate in order to break the hausa/fulani yoke of hegemony on Nigeria

Realman87:


Which united South. You must be Dreaming. the SS/SE will never work with SW. We will rather work with the North. In fact, Nigeria really belongs to the East+North.
When the colonialists were leaving, they balanced power by giving the President to Azikiwe; PM to Tafawa Balewa, Army GOC to Ironsi.
The SW were never in national politics, they were regional players and social critics. The balance of power was altered due to the coup and war. The East lost out and the SW took its place. This explains why the SW were very mad at Jonathan for resurrecting the East. They were hoping to retain the North+West balance of power; hence their 2015 betrayal of the South. Unfortunately and judging from History, Yorubas have never lasted at the centre. They cannot match the North, mind for mind. Only the Easterners can and the Northerners know this.

Thus, there will be no Southern alliance in 2019. The North will destroy the West as always and they will return to the East. The North+ East balance of power will be Restored PERMANENTLY and the SW will live in eternal regret. They have the media and mouth-power to continue their role as social critics.

shigothang:



Overhauling of eletoral system u r right on that and am glad u one of those that think deep but u need more lesson on history cuz it seems u we're not born then . Obasanjo never introduced six zones to Nigeria but Babangida did . Pls read more to compliment ur deep reasoning and boost ur intelligence. I note that from you . If u go thru my previous post u will see whr I stated that the North approah politoics as a front but not like that in the west . The Northern power relies in the Middlebelt .

jollymizzle:
thank God for this impasse, una for run go meet North ba . Anyway like I said we all have grouse against each other and everybody is claiming my right. We should just forget it all and start over. TRUCE?

flokii:


Tinubu is a leader not a god.. get that straight

he is not perfect, yorubas dnt follow him blindly like some who follow politicians to d grave all in d name of loyality.

Those guys are still yorubas bfor politics.. And I still dnt see why that should bother non yorubas really.

fulanimafia:


And where in the newspaper did you see that Tinubu has any conflict with PMB?

You will henceforth also be regarded as a hypocrite.

Progressive01:
All these aprokos from Aribisala to FFK to this writer, having perpetual erection, drooling over the prospect of Jagaban going head to head with Baba should go cultivate Ugwu somewhere if they don't have better jobs to do.

Jagaban has been single-handedly picking, fighting, and winning his battles and certainly doesn't need their whining to do so.

When Jagaban decides it is time to strike, he would strike and we'd all hear about it. For now, he's chosen to remain quiet and plan, waiting for the propitious moment to do what he does best- play ruthless politics!

Make una all go find better work do abeg, and leave the sage alone.

flokii:


I won't trade words with you.. it's ur pple that needs to step up their game. Yorubas are far ahead in every way #fact

And save ur Nothern agenda sermon for ur brothers on this thread planning to "sleep" with them for posts..

we dnt even know what you pple want, some want presidency, some wants biafra.. while others just want to keep d hate for "sophisticated yorubas" alive.. lol

I wish you guys well. confusion no good I swear

BraniacX:


Here is a typical example of what i have been saying!
This is a typical fulani
You'll notice that they understand that the southwest will close in ranks and using tinubu as their mascot, fight back!
You'll also notice that he's targeting the southeast and a potential all southern unification because that is the real threat to them!
Now we must all be smart (long term) and devoid of sentiments and shame this fulani failure on his weak attempt to derail a unified southern block from forming!

Why?
He is a failure because the hausa/fulani hegemony in power has failed Nigeria woefully and the fact that they choose to pretend otherwise shows them for who they are! The fulani are not Nigerians! The hausas are! So for all a fulani cares, Nigeria can go to hell as long as fulani interests are protected! We who are Nigerians must unite and resist this!

sarrki:
Tinubu can't be humiliate

I know no one reign forever

But won't condone that for now

Children of hate and anger will soon troop in now

It's pure envies just because tinubu buried there hero

Politically

ASL33:
Yes they are yorubas used to bring another youruba and their mentor down. Is that what you call yoruba first b4 politics?

EternalTruths:


Yorubas have chosen their destiny and were not forced to do so.

We the SE and SS won't join them.

Fineman87:


Sorry o. The north cannot use the ss/se. The ss/se is 2 zones unlike the 1 sw. The north and east will work or have always worked on equal footing. So don't worry about that. The goal of restructuring died on the table of amala and ewedu. It was killed because of ministerial appointments. Please save us all this your cap. The ss/se will never align with sw. Fact.