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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by wiseoneking: 12:05pm On Oct 09, 2016
patriotic9jaboy:
The silent movement of a lion is not cowardice. Tinubu obviously has a plan B for his so called enemies. He has won several political battles and i trust him to come out victorious on this one. We will put an end to this born to rule caliphate in 2019 by aligning with our southern brothers. A united south can defeat the north any day. I trust Tinubu to come up with a contigent plan by 2019. GEJ dared him and today he is in otueke. Buhari should thread carefully
Boasful Proud thing. Look out where he is now. How miserable the nation is. Humiliated tinubu. He is going back to his vomit, meeting his enemies to help him. Count SE/SS out from your Delusions. If Tinubu tried any nonsense, Fashola will release all his corrupt practises to BUHARI and the rest EFCC will smile at him.

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Ryabcool(m): 12:06pm On Oct 09, 2016
SharkTank:



After betraying the south south, you think we will just sweep that under the carpet. Some Yoruba people can talk rubbish sha
officially the first mumu to fall for his divide and rule tactic.
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Nobody: 12:09pm On Oct 09, 2016
BraniacX:


Check my previous posts! I am not yoruba and i am among those who said this will happen! Now that it has happened, it is good! Because our current young generation especially from the southwest will awaken politically and realise what their older generation were telling them before 2015! So now, the question is what happens after this, the arewa will want to co-opt the rest of the south politically with the pretence that the south west is the enemy and we should not let that happen! Because yesterday the south-south and south east were the enemy (maybe they still are) tomorrow it will be the south west, next tomorrow, who knows but one thing will remain constant, it will be the core north who decides who the enemy will be................... Unless we choose to wake up!!

The guy (Realman87 ) that said 'wisdom is not for sale' is very correct. Now is not time for southern unity to fight the north. They have all state institutions under their control. The yorubas should fight them alone. southern unity can come later.

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by peter1982: 12:10pm On Oct 09, 2016
More appointment for the South east, South South & middle belt to draw them in favour of the north 2019 will start now. the Fulani issue Will died a natural death, The north will pick east as VP I.e Kaduna Governor & IMO Governor 2'19.
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Ryabcool(m): 12:11pm On Oct 09, 2016
Lionsclaw:
You are a joke. Lol how did GEJ dare him? Tinubu initially supported GEJ and jonathan tried to be friendly to all. If not for hate and your prejudice you will realize Tinubu decided to hate GEJ for no reason. Did you hear that they quarelled. Some people just talk anyhow. Nonesense
friendly to all after calling SW rascals? Enough of the lies.
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by teebillz: 12:15pm On Oct 09, 2016
patriotic9jaboy:
The silent movement of a lion is not cowardice. Tinubu obviously has a plan B for his so called enemies. He has won several political battles and i trust him to come out victorious on this one. We will put an end to this born to rule caliphate in 2019 by aligning with our southern brothers. A united south can defeat the north any day. I trust Tinubu to come up with a contigent plan by 2019. GEJ dared him and today he is in otueke. Buhari should thread carefully

How do you feel about talking about your southern brothers and what you did to GEJ in the same sentence?
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by princefaculty(m): 12:17pm On Oct 09, 2016
Karma is sure yet many seem to forget when perpetrating evils, what goes around they say comes around, Jagaban is reaping what he sowed before now.

I saw this coming, Fulani politicking can be treacherous. Jagaban was warned but he was carried away by wanting to clinch to power thinking PMB can be handled with a wave of the hand which appears otherwise at the moment. But nevertheless, PMB/fulanis may be having a filled day now forgetting the sacrifices and contributions that took them up where they are at present but retribution will sure remind them in no time.

Hmmmm, Karma...

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by BraniacX(m): 12:23pm On Oct 09, 2016
fulanimafia:


Your moniker and post have no nexus or correlation whatsoever.

You want to compare national development under a democracy with the regression expected under a military dictatorship?

Did it even occur to you that you're trying to justify the gargantuan failures of democratic leadership by southern civilians including an acclaimed PHD holder over 16 years ruling with the power of the constitution and compare it with the leadership given by uniformed jack booted soldiers running a junta, ruling by decrees and only trained to kill and destroy? Read the first paragraph again.

The people of Otueke and Ogoni who never had any clean up initiated or pipe borne water respectively over the last 16 years, will rather have these last 18 months of cleaning up the mess left by southern leadership led by their own kinsmen.



Any correlation between my moniker and post isn't your purview to correlate as i doubt you have the unbiased mindset and intelligence to make that analysis and besides, that was a decent attemt at deflection! Nice try wink
back to the topic

Leadership is leadership whether military or civilian! Or is china practising democracy? Why should the type of government determine whether or not if there is development if the leader has genuine interests in developing his nation? Mind you, development and not freedom/human rights is what we are discussing here! So answer my questions...... Why shouldn't Nigeria develop economically and infrastructurally under a military junta with the interest of developing it unless the interest was never there in the first place? Gowon's government and its massive infrastuctural strides comes to mind as an exemption but then again he was deposed! Not in the national interests but in the hausa/fulani hegemony interests!

For a government whose figurehead's touted incorruptability was the jingle sung during campaign, all the numerous accusations of corruption in his inner circle falling on deaf ears is interesting to say the least, so is the corruption accusations of the missing N2.8billion of 1978 and the perjury/lack of certificate that are yet to be disproved so who is he and the CPC to label PDP's 16 years as failed and corrupt i ask you?
On the facade of ogoni clean up........ Well, we residents here in Nigeria have been inundated with at least 24 months of propaganda so we recognise propaganda when we see one and that's that for that topic!

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Nobody: 12:27pm On Oct 09, 2016
BraniacX:


Any correlation between my moniker and post isn't your purview to correlate as i doubt you have the unbiased mindset and intelligence to make that analysis and besides, that was a decent attemt at deflection! Nice try wink
back to the topic

Leadership is leadership whether military or civilian! Or is china practising democracy? Why should the type of government determine whether or not if there is development if the leader has genuine interests in developing his nation? Mind you, development and not freedom/human rights is what we are discussing here! So answer my questions...... Why shouldn't Nigeria develop economically and infrastructurally under a military junta with the interest of developing it unless the interest was never there in the first place? Gowon's government and its massive infrastuctural strides comes to mind as an exemption but then again he was deposed! Not in the national interests but in the hausa/fulani hegemony interests!

For a government whose figurehead's touted incorruptability was the jingle sung during campaign, all the numerous accusations of corruption in his inner circle falling on deaf ears is interesting to say the least, so is the corruption accusations of the missing N2.8billion of 1978 and the perjury/lack of certificate that are yet to be disproved so who is he and the CPC to label PDP's 16 years as failed and corrupt i ask you?
On the facade of ogoni clean up........ Well, we residents here in Nigeria have been inundated with at least 24 months of propaganda so we recognise propaganda when we see one and that's that for that topic!

Nice one. Now u r talking. Put the aboki man where he truly belongs not call him chess master.
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by BraniacX(m): 12:32pm On Oct 09, 2016
Fineman87:


Abeg. No chess masters up north. Please we shouldn't engrave it on our minds that the northerners are chess masters in politics. They r not. Please, If they win the mental war, then they have won the political war. Please.

My brother make we talk true
Chess masters dey for both north and south with the major difference being, chess for north na team game while for south na individual game and until we decide to unite and play team game, we go continue to loose! For example, during election campaign, how many PDP governors for north campaign against buhari and for jonathan? .......... You see wetin i mean? wink
In the reverse case, which southern APC governor no actively campaign for buhari? From rachas to amaechi to fashola to aregbesola? Them no just campaign for am with mouth, dem campaign for am with money, na amaechi use dollars take buy votes when buhari take win nomination of APC instead of atiku while on the other hand northern PDP governors collect money for campaign from GEJ deposit am for their own private bank accounts.

Shey you still need any more evidence? undecided

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by millhouse: 12:33pm On Oct 09, 2016
see yarns oo
Realman87:


Which united South. You must be Dreaming. the SS/SE will never work with SW. We will rather work with the North. In fact, Nigeria really belongs to the East+North.
When the colonialists were leaving, they balanced power by giving the President to Azikiwe; PM to Tafawa Balewa, Army GOC to Ironsi.
The SW were never in national politics, they were regional players and social critics. The balance of power was altered due to the coup and war. The East lost out and the SW took its place. This explains why the SW were very mad at Jonathan for resurrecting the East. They were hoping to retain the North+West balance of power; hence their 2015 betrayal of the South. Unfortunately and judging from History, Yorubas have never lasted at the centre. They cannot match the North, mind for mind. Only the Easterners can and the Northerners know this.

Thus, there will be no Southern alliance in 2019. The North will destroy the West as always and they will return to the East. The North+ East balance of power will be Restored PERMANENTLY and the SW will live in eternal regret. They have the media and mouth-power to continue their role as social critics.
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by BraniacX(m): 12:38pm On Oct 09, 2016
onatisi:
There is fire on the mountain. The presidency and the north will now move on to phase 2 of their plan. The bitter truth is in Nigeria politics,the president holds the aces .


Prophet onatisi grin

You no dey talk throway!

Only question is, which way forward?

My belief is a unified southern front is the only option, no other way!
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Alexis11: 12:42pm On Oct 09, 2016
kelechi17:
u shouting realignment with d north are u not interested in one day taking power? fyn dey betrayed us d south and I've heard DAT ova and ova buh trust me d northerners will continue to play us d revenge tapes on ourselves so dey continue to rule us by divide and rule tactics ..I don't trust d afonjas buh I'm tired of hating dem ...let's try and use our strength togeda as a united south for d next election and vote a southern candidate.. and if d northerners as in buhari rigs it ..well we form our own government...

grin
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Nobody: 12:43pm On Oct 09, 2016
BraniacX:


My brother make we talk true
Chess masters dey for both north and south with the major difference being, chess for north na team game while for south na individual game and until we decide to unite and play team game, we go continue to loose! For example, during election campaign, how many PDP governors for north campaign against buhari and for jonathan? .......... You see wetin i mean? wink
In the reverse case, which southern APC governor no actively campaign for buhari? From rachas to amaechi to fashola to aregbesola? Them no just campaign for am with mouth, dem campaign for am with money, na amaechi use dollars take buy votes when buhari take win nomination of APC instead of atiku while on the other hand northern PDP governors collect money for campaign from GEJ deposit am for their own private bank accounts.

Shey you still need any more evidence? undecided

I understand you bro. But na due to their backwardness. Here in the south, we are educated, enlightened and independent minded. But if u look at d 2011 elections, Jonathan got reasonable votes in the north. So some northerners are independent minded too. Abeg, no call them chess masters again Abeg. It has an impact on their psyche and our psyche. They r far far below us.
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Ryabcool(m): 12:45pm On Oct 09, 2016
kelechi17:
u shouting realignment with d north are u not interested in one day taking power? fyn dey betrayed us d south and I've heard DAT ova and ova buh trust me d northerners will continue to play us d revenge tapes on ourselves so dey continue to rule us by divide and rule tactics ..I don't trust d afonjas buh I'm tired of hating dem...let's try and use our strength togeda as a united south for d next election and vote a southern candidate.. and if d northerners as in buhari rigs it ..well we form our own government...
finally, someone who sees the light. We don't have to trust each other to work together. Mutual respect is enough. Yorubas only want respect and belief that you're not plotting underground. Once they see that, they will accept you. We don't play politics of hate, we play politics of development.
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by BraniacX(m): 12:45pm On Oct 09, 2016
Fineman87:


The guy (Realman87 ) that said 'wisdom is not for sale' is very correct. Now is not time for southern unity to fight the north. They have all state institutions under their control. The yorubas should fight them alone. southern unity can come later.

My brother, the period between now and later is pregnant with many possibilities! If we leave them to suffer alone and they get used to it, then why will they be interested in unity later? They'll be used to the suffering and would rightly or wrongly feel the rest of the south abandoned them when they needed them most same as we are feeling betrayed by them when we needed them most! Two wrongs do not make a right! Let us swallow our pride, forgive each other and unite to survive
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by saudatu(m): 12:45pm On Oct 09, 2016
Realman87:


Which united South. You must be Dreaming. the SS/SE will never work with SW. We will rather work with the North. In fact, Nigeria really belongs to the East+North.
When the colonialists were leaving, they balanced power by giving the President to Azikiwe; PM to Tafawa Balewa, Army GOC to Ironsi.
The SW were never in national politics, they were regional players and social critics. The balance of power was altered due to the coup and war. The East lost out and the SW took its place. This explains why the SW were very mad at Jonathan for resurrecting the East. They were hoping to retain the North+West balance of power; hence their 2015 betrayal of the South. Unfortunately and judging from History, Yorubas have never lasted at the centre. They cannot match the North, mind for mind. Only the Easterners can and the Northerners know this.

Thus, there will be no Southern alliance in 2019. The North will destroy the West as always and they will return to the East. The North+ East balance of power will be Restored PERMANENTLY and the SW will live in eternal regret. They have the media and mouth-power to continue their role as social critics.
Hmm... In your widest dream abi? grin grin grin grin

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by ollah2: 12:48pm On Oct 09, 2016
Realman87:


For the records, In 2015, the 45% votes Jonathan got from the SW are Igbo votes and SS votes. They are NOT yoariba votes. Lagos is a typical example where all igbos voted pdp; that is why the oba threatened. Ibadan is another example where all igbos in Ibadan voted pdp. Stop claiming that your Yoruba people voted the same man they were desperate to pull down.


Man just shut up. You are so full of hate.Hw do you sleep at nights? Did INEC release the individual names of the people that voted to have reached your silly conclusion.
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by SharkTank(m): 12:49pm On Oct 09, 2016
Ryabcool:
officially the first mumu to fall for his divide and rule tactic.


Do you even know what divide and conquer is?

Divide and conquer is done by your opponent. When Yoruba by themselves vilified GEJ and swore allegiance to Hausa, that wasn't divide and conquer, it was betrayal and sabotage

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Ryabcool(m): 12:51pm On Oct 09, 2016
BraniacX:


Here is a typical example of what i have been saying!
This is a typical fulani
You'll notice that they understand that the southwest will close in ranks and using tinubu as their mascot, fight back!
You'll also notice that he's targeting the southeast and a potential all southern unification because that is the real threat to them!
Now we must all be smart (long term) and devoid of sentiments and shame this fulani failure on his weak attempt to derail a unified southern block from forming!


Why?
He is a failure because the hausa/fulani hegemony in power has failed Nigeria woefully and the fact that they choose to pretend otherwise shows them for who they are! The fulani are not Nigerians! The hausas are! So for all a fulani cares, Nigeria can go to hell as long as fulani interests are protected! We who are Nigerians must unite and resist this!
Glad I'm not the only one who spotted this
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by EternalTruths: 12:51pm On Oct 09, 2016
ollah2:


Man just shut up. You are so full of hate.Hw do you sleep at nights? Did INEC release the individual names of the people that voted to have reached your silly conclusion.

SW is on her own.

Fight your war

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by EternalTruths: 12:52pm On Oct 09, 2016
SharkTank:



Do you even know what divide and conquer is?

Divide and conquer is done by your opponent. When Yoruba by themselves vilified GEJ and swore allegiance to Hausa, that wasn't divide and conquer, it was betrayal and sabotage

True.

We will never help Tinubu.

The Yoruba people should fight their war

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by jozee8: 12:53pm On Oct 09, 2016
patriotic9jaboy:
The silent movement of a lion is not cowardice. Tinubu obviously has a plan B for his so called enemies. He has won several political battles and i trust him to come out victorious on this one. We will put an end to this born to rule caliphate in 2019 by aligning with our southern brothers. A united south can defeat the north any day. I trust Tinubu to come up with a contigent plan by 2019. GEJ dared him and today he is in otueke. Buhari should thread carefully
Truly, power corrupts! & intuxicate at the same time!
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Nobody: 12:54pm On Oct 09, 2016
BraniacX:


My brother, the period between now and later is pregnant with many possibilities! If we leave them to suffer alone and they get used to it, then why will they be interested in unity later? They'll be used to the suffering and would rightly or wrongly feel the rest of the south abandoned them when they needed them most same as we are feeling betrayed by them when we needed them most! Two wrongs do not make a right! Let us swallow our pride, forgive each other and unite to survive

Let me tell you something. If buhari had given the sw what they wanted and carried them along. The sw would have supported the marginalization of ss/se. You dont know those people. They r only crying now because they sw are also getting the short end of the stick. Gosh. I will never support such an alliance with them. Let them fight alone or let each region be on its own. No alliance too between north and ss/se. Every region to its tent. In any election, let the candidates campaign nationwide and sell their manifesto. We must reject any alliance with sw.

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Alexis11: 12:54pm On Oct 09, 2016
Fineman87:


Sorry o. The north cannot use the ss/se. The ss/se is 2 zones unlike the 1 sw. The north and east will work or have always worked on equal footing. So don't worry about that. The goal of restructuring died on the table of amala and ewedu. It was killed because of ministerial appointments. Please save us all this your cap. The ss/se will never align with sw. Fact.

Oga speak for yourself, SW, SE, SS are three different zones. But unfortunately the SE must lump SS with them to gain relevance while the SW don't mind standing alone.

SS and SE votes followed the same pattern in 2015 because Jonathan was from SS with Ebele and Azikiwe as names cool

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Ryabcool(m): 12:54pm On Oct 09, 2016
SharkTank:



Do you even know what divide and conquer is?

Divide and conquer is done by your opponent. When Yoruba by themselves vilified GEJ and swore allegiance to Hausa, that wasn't divide and conquer, it was betrayal and sabotage
Question; Did Yoruba actively Vote for GEJ in 2011, Yes or No? Did Yoruba actively protest for VP GEJ to be accorded as Acting President while Turai pocketed the presidency in her kitchen, Yes or No? Were the SE and SS quiet throughout when all these were happening, yes or no? Did GEJ call SW rascals after being helped by these same people, Yes or No? Answer those questions genuinely, and ask yourself how SW betrayed GEJ.

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by BraniacX(m): 12:58pm On Oct 09, 2016
Fineman87:


I understand you bro. But na due to their backwardness. Here in the south, we are educated, enlightened and independent minded. But if u look at d 2011 elections, Jonathan got reasonable votes in the north. So some northerners are independent minded too. Abeg, no call them chess masters again Abeg. It has an impact on their psyche and our psyche. They r far far below us.

Let's call a spade a spade, northern elites play "collective" long term politics so calling them chess masters is not out of place, southern politicians on the other hand specialise in "individual" short term politics and therein lies our failure! Calling northern politicians chessmasters shouldn't get us intimidated! It should help awaken us to the challenge we face and the realisation that as crafty as they are, we are craftier, we only choose to use our craftiness individually against each other hence we need to unify and shelve individual interests for group interests now!

I don't know whether you watch game of thrones or not, but you come of to me as an idealist! And in politics, idealists get mauled by realist brutally! Check house stark for confirmation!
So you insisting we are more enlightened than them is like house stark insisting they have more honour than other houses in westeros which while true, makes absolutely no difference in the long run! Make alliances of common interests accross the south and north central or get mauled like house stark! Now that is realism!

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Nobody: 12:59pm On Oct 09, 2016
jollymizzle:
Even if it's in your best interest?


We won't.
Which best interest?
When we reject ngige and amechi did you not insult us?
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Ryabcool(m): 12:59pm On Oct 09, 2016
BraniacX:


Your naivety and ignorance is both alarming and depressing! It is because of people like you that tinubu will fail and the south flounder!! Tinubu is irrelevant politically and all hot air on his own! A united south on the other hand...................now, that's something! Do us all a favour and shut up! We don't need you and others like you idolising tinubu and giving him a false sense of importance as he is humbly doing the important thing of mending fences and building bridges politically for your and our southern interests! Because our interests are far more important than his interests in case you have forgotten
someone with brains and foresight. We need more of your types who can see the bigger picture
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Smooyis(m): 1:00pm On Oct 09, 2016
ojdollars:



How old are you? Why spewing hatred all the time? I'm from Warri and my son is Yoruba. Can't you rally others for a common goal? Who hates the Yoruba's you think? This comment of yours is pathetic. I supported Tinubu and Buhari during the 2015 Election, I was up all night in N.Y counting the votes as they were being announced by INEC viz Channel's TV Online. This hatred I log on to Nairaland and read everyday, needs to stop and it begins with you.


Thanks. Together we can all speak against the tribal instincts of feeble and myopic members of this great forum. They can never represent the minds of future nigerians. Their voices will be defeated someday.
Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Nobody: 1:00pm On Oct 09, 2016
Ryabcool:
Question; Did Yoruba actively Vote for GEJ in 2011, Yes or No? Did Yoruba actively protest for VP GEJ to be accorded as Acting President while Turai pocketed the presidency in her kitchen, Yes or No? Were the SE and SS quiet throughout when all these were happening, yes or no? Did GEJ call SW rascals after being helped by these same people, Yes or No? Answer those questions genuinely, and ask yourself how SW betrayed GEJ.

Why r you people now claiming the 'ineffectual buffon', the ogogoro drinker, .... I thought that yorubas had rejected everything that had to do with Jonathan.

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Re: Tinubu Makes Peace With Former Political Foes by Nobody: 1:01pm On Oct 09, 2016
Alexis11:


Oga speak for yourself, SW, SE, SS are three different zones. But unfortunately the SE must lump SS with them to gain relevance while the SW don't mind standing alone.

SS and SE votes followed the same pattern in 2015 because Jonathan was from SS with Ebele and Azikiwe as names cool


Am from the ss. Am not igbo.

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