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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:09pm On Oct 11, 2016
tbaba1234:


Nigerian league is not even the strongest in Africa. Not every player that has shined in Nigeria has become a success.

Let Nwobodo face tougher challenges abroad then we can really guage him. Mind you, Nwakali is carrying his team in Norway by himself. He is already their best player.

Same with Theophilus Solomon in Croatia.

Even though, these players are shining, we recognise that they are in lesser leagues.

Wait till they prove themselves at a higher level.

Infact, this hailing of Nwobodo is becoming something else.

What happened to the likes of Chikeluba Ofoedu, and Jude Aneke when they left our shores?

What has even happened with Gbolahan Salami since he left to Europe? I have not even heard anyrhing abt Ifeanyi Mathew and Chisom Chikatara since they went to Europe. What of Sunday Mba, the ogbu enyi1 of Super Eagles(Elephant Killer)

You just mentioned Chidi Nwakali and Theophilus Solomon as two youngsters doing great in their clubs yet no one has even called for their inclusion in this current Super Eagles.

"Nwobodo this, Nwobodo that". * In Osuofia's voice* "What kind of this is this" grin

cc:goldfish80

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:13pm On Oct 11, 2016
tbaba1234:


It is not sealed that Ighalo will start. Rohr might have been more impressed by Ideye in the last match and ighalo can lose his spot in watford.

It is by no means guaranteed.

Get my point. HE IS FIRST CHOICE. Not a sure starter.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:15pm On Oct 11, 2016
Icon4s:


Get my point. HE IS FIRST CHOICE. Not a sure starter.

Ok
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:18pm On Oct 11, 2016
tbaba1234:


Ok

Thanks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:22pm On Oct 11, 2016
tbaba1234:


Nigerian league is not even the strongest in Africa. Not every player that has shined in Nigeria has become a success.

Let Nwobodo face tougher challenges abroad then we can really guage him. Mind you, Nwakali is carrying his team in Norway by himself. He is already their best player.

Same with Theophilus Solomon in Croatia.

Even though, these players are shining, we recognise that they are in lesser leagues.

Wait till they prove themselves at a higher level.
The word you used earlier was that the Nigerian league is not tough. My brother, if you know what these players go through you won't use the word tough.
The Nigerian league is not for the faint hearted.
Can Theopilus and Nwakali travel by night from Enugu to Kaduna and play a a game by 4pm same day?

Do you know how many teams had accidents on their way to matches this past season?
At the top of my head, I can name Ikorodu, Heartland and Plateau.
Kano pillars the other time were attacked by armed robbers durring one of their night journeys, Gambo Muhammed was shot.

Any young player who stands out, head and shoulders above the rest in this circumstances do not need much to excel in a decent environment.

You talk about the players who have not made big since they left Nigeria, you also know that there are thousands out there who have etched a career straight out of the Nigerian league.
Kanu - Iwuanawu
Okocha - Rangers
Emmanuel Olisadebe - Jasper United
Martins - Ebiede
Aiyegbeni - Julius Berger

The list is like a bottomless pit.
It's not Nwobodo's fault he was born in Nigeria. Let's not penalise him for it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:26pm On Oct 11, 2016
Icon4s:


Infact, this hailing of Nwobodo is becoming something else.

What happened to the likes of Chikeluba Ofoedu, and Jude Aneke when they left our shores?

What has even happened with Gbolahan Salami since he left to Europe? I have not even heard anyrhing abt Ifeanyi Mathew and Chisom Chikatara since they went to Europe. What of Sunday Mba, the ogbu enyi1 of Super Eagles(Elephant Killer)

You just mentioned Chidi Nwakali and Theophilus Solomon as two youngsters doing great in their clubs yet no one has even called for their inclusion in this current Super Eagles.

"Nwobodo this, Nwobodo that". * In Osuofia's voice* "What kind of this is this" grin

cc:goldfish80

What happened to Kanu, Okocha, Olisadebe, yakubu, Omeruo, Enyeama, udenze, Yobo to name a few since they left the Nigerian league?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:28pm On Oct 11, 2016
goldfish80:

The word you used earlier was that the Nigerian league is not tough. My brother, if you know what these players go through you won't use the word tough.
The Nigerian league is not for the faint hearted.
Can Theopilus and Nwakali travel by night from Enugu to Kaduna and play a a game by 4pm same day?

Do you know how many teams had accidents on their way to matches this past season?
At the top of my head, I can name Ikorodu, Heartland and Plateau.
Kano pillars the other time were attacked by armed robbers durring one of their night journeys, Gambo Muhammed was shot.

Any young player who stands out, head and shoulders above the rest in this circumstances do not need much to excel in a decent environment.

You talk about the players who have not made big since they left Nigeria, you also know that there are thousands out there who have etched a career straight out of the Nigerian league.
Kanu - Iwuanawu
Okocha - Rangers
Emmanuel Olisadebe - Jasper United
Martins - Ebiede
Aiyegbeni - Julius Berger

The list is like a bottomless pit.
It's not Nwobodo's fault he was born in Nigeria. Let's not penalise him for it.

Let the boy grow and prove himself. Kanu and okocha proved themselves in Holland and Germany. I am optimistic for the kid but let him face better challenges. There have been more failures than successes when it comes to star league players that played abroad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:28pm On Oct 11, 2016
goldfish80:


What happened to Kanu, Okocha, Olisadebe, yakubu, Omeruo, Enyeama, udenze, Yobo to name a few since they left the Nigerian league?

Let Nwobodo go to Europe so we can properly assess him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:29pm On Oct 11, 2016
tbaba1234:


Let the boy grow and prove himself. Kanu and okocha proved themselves in Holland and Germany. I am optimistic for the kid but let him face better challenges. There have been more failures than successes when it comes to star league players that played abroad.

Gbam!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:36pm On Oct 11, 2016
tbaba1234:
Imagine Bellerin playing for spain under 21 while we are struggling for right backs.

You mean that future Manchester City player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:38pm On Oct 11, 2016
tbaba1234:


Let the boy grow and prove himself. Kanu and okocha proved themselves in Holland and Germany. I am optimistic for the kid but let him face better challenges. There have been more failures than successes when it comes to star league players that played abroad.
In other words you're saying "proove yourself abroad before we believe you're good enough"
Is it not time we emansipate ourself from that sort of mental slavery?
Why not watch his game and say categorically he's not good enough?
He has seen more action than Musa Muhammed but at a push you will list Musa as your choice right back against Algeria just because he cools off in Turkey.
Had Musa not being given a chance against Tanzania, most people would not even consider him good enough for the SE bench.

Nwobodo deserves a place at least a chance in a friendly.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:38pm On Oct 11, 2016
Another player silently making progress is Musa Yahaya in Porto, He has been training with the first team and it is just a matter of team before he makes his debut.

If Nigeria makes the next world cup, He might be in contention for a place.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:41pm On Oct 11, 2016
I agree with goldfish80, I say sometimes, we boost our players. We will have friendly games and I believe Rohr will want top friendlies. We can market our quality home based players with it.

We won the AFCON with some home based players. We also pushed home based players like Oliseh before with the National team. The exposure made these home based players shine.

I believe Rohr knows about Nwobodo and will know the best time to give him a chance if he does not secure a European move by then
.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:41pm On Oct 11, 2016
tbaba1234:
Imagine Bellerin playing for spain under 21 while we are struggling for right backs.

Maybe we should investigate his lineage whether he has any Nigerian grand father or great grand father. So we can lure him over. grin

Forgiveness, na ur area of specialty be this o. This one better pass Aso Rock, Majek Fashek, Moses Odubanjo, Tyron Ebue*c*hi and *Brain* Idowu join together o grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:41pm On Oct 11, 2016
Icon4s:


Let Nwobodo go to Europe so we can properly assess him.
Let theophius Solomon and Nwakali come down to Npfl and play a season, I personally want to watch them play live and assess them properly smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:42pm On Oct 11, 2016
goldfish80:

In other words you're saying "proove yourself abroad before we believe you're good enough"
Is it not time we emansipate ourself from that sort of mental slavery?
Why not watch his game and say categorically he's not good enough?
He has seen more action than Musa Muhammed but at a push you will list Musa as your choice right back against Algeria just because he cools off in Turkey.
Had Musa not being given a chance against Tanzania, most people would not even consider him good enough for the SE bench.

Nwobodo deserves a place at least a chance in a friendly.

Frankly, Musa Muhammad needs to sort out his league situation. Rohr did not trust him in a competitive game and had to draft a DM in that position. We do not have too many RB options. I would not be surprised, if Rohr stops calling him completely soon.

I like Nwobodo but he plays in a stacked position. Right now, we have only competitive games..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:44pm On Oct 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
I agree with goldfish80, I say sometimes, we boost our players. We will have friendly games and I believe Rohr will want top friendlies. We can market our quality home based players with it.

We won the AFCON with some home based players. We also pushed home based players like Oliseh before with the National team. The exposure made these home based players shine.

I believe Rohr knows about Nwobodo and will know the best time to give him a chance if he does not secure a European move by then
.
This is one of your finnest posts for the better part of a month. Keep up bro smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:45pm On Oct 11, 2016
goldfish80:

Let theophius Solomon and Nwakali come down to Npfl and play a season, I personally want to watch them play live and assess them properly smiley

No one is advocating their inclusion in the super eagles yet inspite of their performances abroad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:45pm On Oct 11, 2016
goldfish80:

This is one of your finnest posts for the better part of a month. Keep up bro smiley

Simply bc u are both on the same side of the argument grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:46pm On Oct 11, 2016
Ovie Ejaria scored for Queen and country under 20 team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:48pm On Oct 11, 2016
goldfish80:

Let theophius Solomon and Nwakali come down to Npfl and play a season, I personally want to watch them play live and assess them properly smiley

You know that's a good idea. Let Iwobi and Iheanacho also play one NPFL season so we can also better assess them grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:50pm On Oct 11, 2016
Icon4s:


Simply bc u are both on the same side of the argument grin
Are you sure we are on the same side of argument? TheGoodJoe will come for my head before tommorr morning, just watch and see smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:53pm On Oct 11, 2016
goldfish80:

Are you sure we are on the same side of argument? TheGoodJoe will come for my head before tommorr morning, just watch and see smiley

I doubt he knows two of us do not agree.

goldfish80 is right not that I want to agree with him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:54pm On Oct 11, 2016
Icon4s:

You expected me to give facilities as the reason why the Brazilian league is better than the NPFL.
And I was only pointing out to u that if it is based on facilities alone then South Africa should be among top 10.

I actually wanted to know ur reasoning i didn't expect u to say anything, if so i won't have even asked u. I don't think the players in the Brazilian league are so far away from ours.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:55pm On Oct 11, 2016
goldfish80:

Are you sure we are on the same side of argument? TheGoodJoe will come for my head before tommorr morning, just watch and see smiley

TheGoodJoe loves Nwobodo you also love Nwobodo. So enjoy this partnership while it lasts for u dnt know which side of which arguments you would find urselves tomorrow. grin

I dey watch in 5D cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:56pm On Oct 11, 2016
Icon4s:


You know that's a good idea. Let Iwobi and Iheanacho also play one NPFL season so we can also better assess them grin
Wouldn't that be awesome? Imagine the boost in profile the Npfl will enjoy it they decide to do so. They should come if they have the liver grin grin

On a serious note, I think there should be some sort of legislation that all ex internationals before the retire should come down and play atleast a season in the npfl before they retire.
The Brazilians and Argentines boost their leagues with these sort of arrangement.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:57pm On Oct 11, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


I actually wanted to know ur reasoning i didn't expect u to say anything, if so i won't have even asked u. I don't think the players in the Brazilian league are so far away from ours.

Error! Brazil is where you'll get the highest number of raw footballing talents world-wide. We no near.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:00pm On Oct 11, 2016
goldfish80:

Wouldn't that be awesome? Imagine the boost in profile the Npfl will enjoy it they decide to do so. They should come if they have the liver grin grin

On a serious note, I think their should be some sort of legislation that all ex internationals before the retire should come down and play atleast a season in the npfl before they retire.
The Brazilians and Argentines boost their leagues with these sort of arrangement.

A couple of ex-internationals did that. But the problem is there is no money in the Nigerian league. The league is not attractive.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:01pm On Oct 11, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


I actually wanted to know ur reasoning i didn't expect u to say anything, if so i won't have even asked u. I don't think the players in the Brazilian league are so far away from ours.

They are faraway. How many players from our league can walk from our league into the Chelsea team as Oscar did?

Anderson went from Gremio as a teenager and became a starter for Porto.

Lucas Leiva went from Gremio to Liverpool and was a starter in no time. Look at the quality of Gabriel Jesus. He can start for many top clubs in football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:03pm On Oct 11, 2016
Icon4s:


TheGoodJoe loves Nwobodo you also love Nwobodo. So enjoy this partnership while it lasts for u dnt know which side of which arguments you would find urselves tomorrow. grin

I dey watch in 5D cool

This is not just about Nwobodo (although I think he is top quality and a rare gem) but us finding top quality hidden gems in the league and exposing them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:04pm On Oct 11, 2016
tbaba1234:


Frankly, Musa Muhammad needs to sort out his league situation. Rohr did not trust him in a competitive game and had to draft a DM in that position. We do not have too many RB options. I would not be surprised, if Rohr stops calling him completely soon.

I like Nwobodo but he plays in a stacked position. Right now, we have only competitive games..


Musa Mohammed is a beast i disagree with all this talk about him, his team is #1 on the log in Turkey, they still see him as an important player if not he would be in Scotland. Rohr simply knew the ref gave alot of penalties in the past and he set his system up to offset that. Our defenders stayed by the box and instead of going to win tackles they led players into spots were they had backup at.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:06pm On Oct 11, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


I actually wanted to know ur reasoning i didn't expect u to say anything, if so i won't have even asked u. I don't think the players in the Brazilian league are so far away from ours.

Pato, 17 years old (Internacional) and was one of the best players at the World club Cup. In no time, he was a starter for AC Milan.

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