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Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by shadeyinka(m): 7:22pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
Peacefullove: They were questioning Jesus about what happens at Resurrection! It has nothing to do with impotence ..or mortuary ....LOL The emphasis is Like the Angels in Heaven of course who do not marry. OK. Let me ask you a question! Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. How is this statement true if his body was supposed to rot in the grave |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 7:23pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
RabbaRabbi: oga , simple question I asked , I need practical answers . you can't just tell me you can make horses fly , and when asked how ? you resort to your comfort zone . I need to know what burns in that hell , this is how we can verify if all u have been saying is true or not or you even understand all you have been saying . Again man, give me where the bible say the soul burns in hell ? remember you said it . I need prove from your bible simple as ABC |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 7:27pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
shadeyinka: Oga, did Jesus go to Paradise when he died ? 1 Like |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Wilgrea7(m): 7:28pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
shadeyinka: u didn't create the rules... but you're misinterpreting them. i never said hell was temporal and u go to heaven after hell. hell is utter destruction. its not a nice thing. i agree that everyone will give account. that is very true. Jesus will also give to every man ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS. we will give account of everything. every man will either be rewarded or punished according to his works.. so don't worry about people like hitler, nd osama bin laden or even the armed robber that killed three people. they will be punished according to their works... its even there in revelation. but the end of the wicked is destruction from the sight of God and destruction from the face of the earth . please endeavour to open the links i sent thanks 1 Like |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by shadeyinka(m): 7:33pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
Peacefullove: You did not answer the question: is Paradise an unconscious state? |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 7:49pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
shadeyinka: you are asking me what you don't understand , has anyone died and was said to go to paradise before ? only then can your question make sense. for now its nonsensical. am still examining your claim . when a man dies , lying helpless in the casket , how can you still claim such a person is still alive ? 1 Like |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by RabbaRabbi: 7:54pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
Peacefullove: before i will answer that, let me ask you this... Are you a christian? If yes, which church do you attend. If interested in my answers, then quote me... |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Nobody: 7:55pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
RabbaRabbi:perfect bro. God's grace follow me everywhere I go and today was not an exception. |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by RabbaRabbi: 8:03pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
Jesuobu: thats cool. Rock on 1 Like |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Nobody: 8:26pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
RabbaRabbi:you're just killing it bro with the inspiration of God. One JW Oyinbo member from Sweden came to my house and started telling me gibberish that there is no hell and even is there is, people there will be innihilated and I started bombarding him with questions from the scriptures and referred him to that exact scripture you gave and he started sweating profusly and skipped all my questions. Those people move from house to house confusing and deceiving people. |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 8:27pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
RabbaRabbi: hahahahaha guy , Am not a xtian! but you need to answer me . am demanding proof for a statement of yours . will you now answer me, give me where your bible state that the soul burns in hell ? |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by RabbaRabbi: 8:40pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
Jesuobu: those people have really deceived a good sum of people who knew nothing about the truth. They go around teaching false hood and deception, and when you throw them a weighty question, they run for life. Back then, I had a guy who always come to preach about their heresies as usual. That day we discussed on "Whether a human have a spirit." he kept twisting the bible to suit his claims, but guess what? I came hard on him. After that day, he came again and I still picked up the previous topic, and he was like, mehn, just forget about that... I had won him on that. All Jehovah Witnesses are teaming up ignorantly to bring the deception of the devil into mankind's heart. But I can't be a part of it... Jesus is Lord |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Barristter07: 9:00pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
shadeyinka shadeyinka: " And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead." - Matt 17:9 1 Like |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Nobody: 9:09pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
RabbaRabbi:lolz can't stop laughing. They just cook falsehood with maggi for fragrance and go from house to house looking for machineries to help them spread their lies. The last time the man came, he gave me an invitation card and showed me a video of what they do in JW hall and I told him, I can never visit any church unless am convinced the doctrine they teach is true and he was really embarrassed. He didn't stop there, he gave me that their watch tower magazine and the title was "Did Jesus really exist?" and I was like like seriously? have I ever doubted the existence of Jesus? when my life itself radiates the light of Jesus and I told him I don't need it and was convincing me that Ineed it and I collected it from him and when he was gone, I gave the magazine to children to make kite and use in the toilet |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Barristter07: 9:15pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
shadeyinka: Matthew 25 :41 was in reference to a parable of sheep and goats ( see verse 33) , are this literal goats and sheep ? if your answer is NO! the logical question then is , what does the everlasting fire to which the symbolic goats are thrown represents ? Jude 7: " just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. " does this now mean the fire that burned that city is still burning till now since it's an eternal fire or it simply means utter destruction of those cities ? the answer is clear . that's the meaning of everlasting fire .
friend you actually quote this , do you now accept the bold sized ? |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by RabbaRabbi: 9:53pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
Jesuobu: that was rough, boy. You really came hard on them anyway through Christ Jesus our Lord, you served them well. Can't still remember when they invited me last to their kingdom hall, guess what? I turned them down, not because of pride. My spirit never allowed me visit them, And I obey that. I can still vividly remember when two grannies from JW, came to preach to a boy who had low mentality about the scripture, upon hearing that I had to leave what I was doing to join them. Thank God they came to preach about hell... They said God is love and cannot punish people in hell. Infact, hell does not exist, bla bla bla... But thank I served them right. They both had to leave in anger... Shouting at me to repent, that there is no hell. I told them they were the ones who need repentance. To crown it all, glory be to God... The boy never believed them. 1 Like |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 10:13pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
the thread title says, ask your questions: RabbaRabbi says and I quote : " then the soul burns in hell... " Mr don't run away, give me where your bible says the soul burns in hell ? or your statement is those usual lies presented as usual .? |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by RabbaRabbi: 10:57pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
Peacefullove: ezekiel 18:20; the soul that sin shall die... (the second death, which is burning in hell) revelation 21:8 Psalm: 9:17, the wicked shall be turned into hell and all the nation that forget God. Jude 1:7 Even as sodom and gomorrha and the cities about them, in like manner giving themselves over to fornication and strange flesh are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Psalm 21:8-9 You will throw them in a flaming furnane when you appear. The Lord will consume them in his anger. Fire will burn them. All this scriptures are pointing to one end, which is hell... I wouldn't mind if you bother me with some few questions again. Shalom |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Nobody: 12:58am On Oct 12, 2016 |
The bible is explicit about the reality of hell! First hell fire is real! Hell fire exist right Now and there are millions of people right there. I laughed when I read what someone posted, saying when someone dies they just go to relax in hell till the day of judgement. Nothing like that for the bible says after death judgement! [b]Once a man dies his judgement immediately commences, also remember that there is no peace for the wicked so, how can the wicked rest in peacefully in hell this is against the word of God. The story of Lazarus and the richman really reveals hell. First, note that the richman was already in hell suffering while his brethren were still alive. Secondly, also note that the richman begged Abraham to send a dead man back to earth to preach which Abraham declined. The truth is that hell exist, it is a fiery place of torment with billions of damned souls awaiting their final judgement into the lake of fire where they will exist eternally. Hell is forever because the torment will continue and increase in the lake of fire forever and ever without ceasing. No righteous man goes to hell anymore ever since Christ died and resurrected. There are four words translated as hell in the bible. 1. Sheol 2. Hades 3. Gehenna 4. Tartarus. 1.Hades and Sheol mean the same thing. Hades is the Greek word for hell or Sheol is the Hebrew word for grave or hell. It means the general abode of the dead before the coming of Christ. Both the righteous and the wicked were in the same place called hell before christ died and resurrected however, after his death he went to hell and collected the key of hell and death from the devil (meaning that the devil abode is also in hell but not yet tormented he is moving everywhere seeking for whom to destroy) After collecting the keys he release the righteous dead from the prison of hell as written in the scriptures that Jesus will release those in prison, and resurrected them to heaven. In Sheol the righteous were not in punishment but were awaiting the coming of the messiah to rescue them. After Jesus had taken them away from hell no christian who die will go to hell but will be with their Lord. Amen. Even Paul testify of this saying "To be away from the body (die) is to be with the Lord". 2. Gehenna is the proper word for hell fire, make no mistake Gehenna is also Sheol or hades. It is referred to as " the pit" or grave of the wicked were there is fire and worms feeding on them. It is the home of the wicked "will turn the wicked to hell" whenever hell is mentioned most times this is what it is. Gehenna is what Jesus warned of, that it is better to enter heaven maimed than enter hell as a whole man. There is no peace for the wicked! The whole of Sheol is now Gehenna. The righteous men like Abraham are no longer in Sheol or hades only the sinners suffering greatly because of fire and brimestone plus undying worms. Don't go to hell! Accept Jesus Today! 3. Tartarus. This is where the angels who left their first estate are bound. It is also hell! They will be judged accordingly. 4.Bottomless pit. Although it is not translated as hell but it is some kind of prison, this is where the Antichrist is operating from. He will ascend from this place to deceive men when the right time comes however he will finally be cast into the lake of fire. The bottomless pit is said to be located deep inside the occean. The devil will be bound in this place during the period of Christ 1000year reign afterward he will be revisited and released and then finally cast into the lake of fire. 5.lake of fire. This is were the devil, the false prophet, the antichrist, the devil, all whose name is not found in the book of life, hell and death will be cast into. Repent and accept Christ you need his righteousness! Shallom![/b] |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 6:45am On Oct 12, 2016 |
RabbaRabbi: the soul that sin shall DIE . not burn in hell , see your life man. you don't need to insert the bracket , its a deceitful attempt to change the meaning of the word " DIE" all living thing die , and we know the meaning . in short , soul doesn't live on , it dies . let me test your IQ , when you earlier tell me body dies . what's the meaning of die here , burning in hell? why then are you now changing the meaning of DIE !!!! . can't you see you are as dubious as anything . changing the meaning to suit your preconceived ideas. You only successfully prove that the soul die just as the body die . all die! 1 Like |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by shadeyinka(m): 6:54am On Oct 12, 2016 |
Peacefullove: Rev6:10-14 answers your question: 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain [/b]for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: If these people were killed, how come they 1. Still speak 2. Put on white robes 3. Asked to exercise patience? They are Alive even though physically dead! |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 6:54am On Oct 12, 2016 |
@ solite3 You know I won't swallow all your Gabbage without scrutinizing it , you said when a man dies , judgement follows immediately . pls tell me why was the daughter of Jairus not judged immediately she died ? why was Lazarus of Bethany not judged immediately he died for good four days ? why was the son of the widow of Main not judged immediately he died ? answer me , this are real cases of people who actually died and experience death in your bible . |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 7:01am On Oct 12, 2016 |
shadeyinka: I know your religion forbid you to think properly , your conclusion itself expose you . @ bold , you can't be dead and Alive at the same time . its illogical , two complete opposite things . let me remind you that this event is the FIFTH SEAL , and you think its real right ? hehehehe . you are just a stinking hypocrite, do you also believe the fourth seal of death riding a horse is real too , do you believe the sixth seal of stars falling on planet earth is real too !!! lesson: the whole six seals are not literal events . if you insist the fifth is literal , you must accept all others as real too , which I know your hypocrite sef is not ready to accept 1 Like |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by shadeyinka(m): 7:02am On Oct 12, 2016 |
Peacefullove: Death is a disconnection/separation of union! Physical Death: disconnection/separation of body and soul Spiritual Death: disconnection/separation of mans spirit and Gods spirit Second Death: eternal disconnection/separation of man from God in the lake of Fire You don't have to believe. On the day you step out of your body in death, do will know without doubt that you are a trinity of body, soul and spirit! I sign out! |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 7:04am On Oct 12, 2016 |
shadeyinka: my friend, talk is cheap . your friend has prove that soul die just as body die . hehehehe |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by shadeyinka(m): 7:08am On Oct 12, 2016 |
Peacefullove: All these @bold coming from you! ...very Christlike indeed! Use any allegorical interpretation and lets see the meaning. If they were dead how come..... |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by shadeyinka(m): 7:22am On Oct 12, 2016 |
Barristter07: You still don't get it! If I destroy my Neigbours car, does it mean I mangled it or annihilate it? The definitions and deductions stands even though you didn't respond to them. |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 7:24am On Oct 12, 2016 |
shadeyinka: the FIFTH seal is as symbolic as the SIXTH seal of stars Falling on earth. do you believe the sixth seals too, how come stars has large as they are fall upon this tiny planet earth ? |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by Peacefullove: 7:28am On Oct 12, 2016 |
shadeyinka: the point is your neighbours car cease to function as a car when you destroy it , so also the person destroyed cease to function as a living being . |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by shadeyinka(m): 7:32am On Oct 12, 2016 |
Barristter07: You have a point with Mt 18:9. A vision. Even though, I am tempted to say the vision meant "what they saw" but I wouldn't However, if it was a vision, was it real? ..or a figment of their imagination? If it was real, then what happened was that they had a glimpse of God the spirit rhelm and it doesn't invalidate my argument! |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by shadeyinka(m): 7:51am On Oct 12, 2016 |
Wilgrea7: @bolded was not referring to you. I was referring to the Catholics who have the doctrine of purgatory I guess humans being what we are, we interpret the scriptures to suite our bias. It is impossible to explain away Hell or the lake of Fire from the scriptures. There will still be that scripture that will not go away.. If the righteous receive eternal peace and joy for the 100 years they spent on earth. The ungodly will also receive eternal torment for the years they spend on earth. Therefore Jesus WARNED Mt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. This warning makes sense only if What man can do (kill the body) is different from what God can do to a man (destroy both body and soul in hell) If killing the body results into an unconscious state AND God destroying the body and soul also results to annihilation (unconscious state) Then, there Exist no Reason to FEAR God! We want the God who is LOVE but deny the GOD who is JUST |
Re: Doubt About Hell? Come In And Ask Your Question: by shadeyinka(m): 8:05am On Oct 12, 2016 |
Peacefullove: The point is that you should attempt explaining what happened when the fifth seal was opened. JW I know have interpretation for what happened when each seal was opened. I just want to know how you interpret the fifth seal opening. |
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