mufutau55:
OK. Professionals... which is better, Cement screeding or POP screeding? I hope I got the terminology right.
Why is one better over the other (Advantages and Disadvantages)?
What are the materials needed for each procedures?
Thanks.

Hajji M.

I saw the cement screeding inside northern foreshore..it look so lovely I will take the pics when next I visit...look awesome without paint

mufutau55:
OK. Professionals... which is better, Cement screeding or POP screeding? I hope I got the terminology right.
Why is one better over the other (Advantages and Disadvantages)?
What are the materials needed for each procedures?
Thanks.

Hajji M.

POP Cement for POP screeding
Portland Cement for Cement screeding

POP dry faster
Portland dry slow

Most preferred Portland reason use for all work no repel
POP may repel.

Chekitaut:
POP Cement for POP screeding
Portland Cement for Cement screeding

POP dry faster
Portland dry slow

Most preferred Portland reason use for all work no repel
POP may repel.

Thanks Boss.

Hajji M.

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twinskenny:

I saw the cement screeding inside northern foreshore..it look so lovely I will take the pics when next I visit...look awesome without paint

Thanks Ejire... I will really love to see the pics. Pls try and get it. Thanks.

Hajji M.

Hajji,
Thanks very much for the infor.

Cheers

mufutau55:


Material Descriptions
Copper Tapes - 25 Meters @1,500.00 = 37,500.00
Earth Rod @5,000.00 = 5,000.00
Copper Mat @ 4,500.00 = 4,500.00
Arrestor Copper @5,000.00 = 5,000.00
10mm Fable Cable-10 Meters @N250x10 = 2,500.00
Industrial Salts - 1 Bag @ 2,500.00 = 2,500.00
Charcoal @1,000.00 = 1,000.00
Total Materials = N58,000.00
Labor = N12,000.00
Grand Total Paid = N70,000.00

Above is what I spent on a Duplex building... for bungalow the Copper tapes should be like half (13 linear meters).
Hope this helps. The only thing I noticed is too much Labor... maximum should be 15k.
And make sure they are using real copper...

Hajji M.

I had assumed (wrongly now of course) that our regular plastering was a form of cement screeding. I now guess this is wrong.

Photos will be appreciated from the house o please. Along with pros and cons of each especially related to cost and maintainability.

Thanks!

Regular cement plastering is quite different from cement screeding.
Screeding of either cement or gypsum based is done over cement plaster.
It's a relatively less thick coat used to correct errors on cement plaster to give a very smooth and level surface that ordinary cement plasters can't give.
Cement screeding is stronger no doubt. It's also smoother given the presence of free lime in it.
Water won't also be able to affect it, unlike pop screeding that would swell and peel off when in contact with water. So cement screeding can be used both inside and outside.
Gypsum screeding has some fire retardant advantage at a relatively low temperature, under 250 degree C. Theoretically it supplies oxygen for more combustion at very high temperature above 900 degrees if the fire hasn't been put out. But gypsum screeding has limestone powder as filler and that also releases carbon dioxide at the temperature gypsum releases oxygen.
Back to reality, cement screeding sets slowly. That's the major reason I think it's not widely used by contractors. They need a fast setting plaster to screed and leave the site on time for other jobs.
Paint would also stick well, especially satin on cement screeding and it won't peel off easily.

gbadexy:
Regular cement plastering is quite different from cement screeding.
Screeding of either cement or gypsum based is done over cement plaster.
It's a relatively less thick coat used to correct errors on cement plaster to give a very smooth and level surface that ordinary cement plasters can't give.
Cement screeding is stronger no doubt. It's also smoother given the presence of free lime in it.
Water won't also be able to affect it, unlike pop screeding that would swell and peel off when in contact with water. So cement screeding can be used both inside and outside.
Gypsum screeding has some fire retardant advantage at a relatively low temperature, under 250 degree C. Theoretically it supplies oxygen for more combustion at very high temperature above 900 degrees if the fire hasn't been put out. But gypsum screeding has limestone powder as filler and that also releases carbon dioxide at the temperature gypsum releases oxygen.
Back to reality, cement screeding sets slowly. That's the major reason I think it's not widely used by contractors. They need a fast setting plaster to screed and leave the site on time for other jobs.
Paint would also stick well, especially satin on cement screeding and it won't peel off easily.

You too much, no wonder....

gbadexy:
Regular cement plastering is quite different from cement screeding.
Screeding of either cement or gypsum based is done over cement plaster.
It's a relatively less thick coat used to correct errors on cement plaster to give a very smooth and level surface that ordinary cement plasters can't give.
Cement screeding is stronger no doubt. It's also smoother given the presence of free lime in it.
Water won't also be able to affect it, unlike pop screeding that would swell and peel off when in contact with water. So cement screeding can be used both inside and outside.
Gypsum screeding has some fire retardant advantage at a relatively low temperature, under 250 degree C. Theoretically it supplies oxygen for more combustion at very high temperature above 900 degrees if the fire hasn't been put out. But gypsum screeding has limestone powder as filler and that also releases carbon dioxide at the temperature gypsum releases oxygen.
Back to reality, cement screeding sets slowly. That's the major reason I think it's not widely used by contractors. They need a fast setting plaster to screed and leave the site on time for other jobs.
Paint would also stick well, especially satin on cement screeding and it won't peel off easily.

Thank you for the detailed explanation. Please how much will it cost to carry out wall screeding in an average 4 bedroom bungalow? Eagerly awaiting relies.
Thank you

preggi:

Thank you for the detailed explanation. Please how much will it cost to carry out wall screeding in an average 4 bedroom bungalow? Eagerly awaiting relies.
Thank you

I don't do screeding sir. You can contact dominion for price estimate.

This property section is the best forum in the world... You are safe if all you need about your project is from here.

Thanks bro. Sir Dominion pls come to my rescue

gbadexy:

I don't do screeding sir. You can contact dominion for price estimate.

twinskenny:


I saw the cement screeding inside northern foreshore..it look so lovely I will take the pics when next I visit...look awesome without paint

@twinskenny this is the design that I was talking about. I couldn't send it by phone as my phone is crap.

gbadexy:
Regular cement plastering is quite different from cement screeding.
Screeding of either cement or gypsum based is done over cement plaster.
It's a relatively less thick coat used to correct errors on cement plaster to give a very smooth and level surface that ordinary cement plasters can't give.
Cement screeding is stronger no doubt. It's also smoother given the presence of free lime in it.
Water won't also be able to affect it, unlike pop screeding that would swell and peel off when in contact with water. So cement screeding can be used both inside and outside.
Gypsum screeding has some fire retardant advantage at a relatively low temperature, under 250 degree C. Theoretically it supplies oxygen for more combustion at very high temperature above 900 degrees if the fire hasn't been put out. But gypsum screeding has limestone powder as filler and that also releases carbon dioxide at the temperature gypsum releases oxygen.
Back to reality, cement screeding sets slowly. That's the major reason I think it's not widely used by contractors. They need a fast setting plaster to screed and leave the site on time for other jobs.
Paint would also stick well, especially satin on cement screeding and it won't peel off easily.

. Screeding be it POP or Cement based does not in any form correct errors as a result of cement(wall) plastering. The main objective of Screeding is to give a fine smooth finish to the wall and making the eyes appeal more to it after the application of your paint. POP Screeding if to be used is best suitable for interior of the building and never exterior. But the cement is most suitable for both interior and exterior walls.

marylandcakes:


@twinskenny this is the design that I was talking about. I couldn't send it by phone as my phone is crap.

This one not the job of plasterer alone ooo...some of this design are done after plastering

twinskenny:


This one not the job of plasterer alone ooo...some of this design are done after plastering

That's what I'm talking about. I need someone who can do this design.

About 300K
Ensure you use a registered surveyor.

Itstyme:
Please can anyone give a precised cost of land survey? Property is located around Sangotedo axis, Lagos. Thanks.

Itstyme:
Please can anyone give a precised cost of land survey? Property is located around Sangotedo axis, Lagos. Thanks.

I spent about 140k on mine based at Ikorodu.

marylandcakes:



I spend about 140k on mine based at Ikorodu.

Thanks! Does location determine cost of land survey?

mavverick:
About 300K
Ensure you use a registered surveyor.

Ok. Thank you

bixton:
. Screeding be it POP or Cement based does not in any form correct errors as a result of cement(wall) plastering. The main objective of Screeding is to give a fine smooth finish to the wall and making the eyes appeal more to it after the application of your paint. POP Screeding if to be used is best suitable for interior of the building and never exterior. But the cement is most suitable for both interior and exterior walls.

If the cement plaster is perfectly done, there won't be a need for screeding. Besides, I did say that screeding gives a level of smoothness that ordinary plaster can't give.
I also mentioned that pop screeding swells and peels when in contact with water. So obviously it won't be ideal for exterior use .
Why did you quote me Sir?

marylandcakes:


That's what I'm talking about. I need someone who can do this design.

But they have to plaster first..there us a guy doing doing similar stuff on my current project will send pics of his work when I get back to site

mavverick:
About 300K
Ensure you use a registered surveyor.

or more if its in ETI OSA, some lands are in SANGOTEDO but actually in the map it falls under IBEJU LEKKI. Those location could be little cheaper, not much different though. The surveyor has to pick the coordinate, to know exact location where it fell in situations like that. Be careful, SANGOTEDO is a unique place with a lot of government and high profile individual interest in the entire location. Do your dual diligence with a trusted lawyer and surveyor before embarking on any deal.

Oga mavverick its usually between 120-150 unless its more than a plot then it might go up to 200k

mavverick:
About 300K
Ensure you use a registered surveyor.

No part of Sangotedo is in ibeju lekki. It's miles from it. Survey has nothing to do with the area. Its statewide.

kopell:
or more if its in ETI OSA, some lands are in SANGOTEDO but actually in the map it falls under IBEJU LEKKI. Those location could be little cheaper, not much different though. The surveyor has to pick the coordinate, to know exact location where it fell in situations like that. Be careful, SANGOTEDO is a unique place with a lot of government and high profile individual interest in the entire location. Do your dual diligence with a trusted lawyer and surveyor before embarking on any deal.

gbadexy:

If the cement plaster is perfectly done, there won't be a need for screeding. Besides, I did say that screeding gives a level of smoothness that ordinary plaster can't give.
I also mentioned that pop screeding swells and peels when in contact with water. So obviously it won't be ideal for exterior use .
Why did you quote me Sir?

Is it possible to use satin paint on a plastered wall unscreeded ?
I think many ppl go for wall Screeding because of the satin paint
Thanks

kolnel:


Is it possible to use satin paint on a plastered wall unscreeded ?
I think many ppl go for wall Screeding because of the satin paint
Thanks

It's possible although it may not be appealing.
Satin being a high sheen paint highlights contours on the wall.
If the cement plaster is smooth, then it can be applied.

gabbytabby:
Oga mavverick its usually between 120-150 unless its more than a plot then it might go up to 200k

Thanks for the input.

gabbytabby:
No part of Sangotedo is in ibeju lekki. It's miles from it. Survey has nothing to do with the area. Its statewide.

Sounds more like it.

Itstyme:


Thanks! Does location determine cost of land survey?

Sorry I don't really know.

gbadexy:

If the cement plaster is perfectly done, there won't be a need for screeding. Besides, I did say that screeding gives a level of smoothness that ordinary plaster can't give.
I also mentioned that pop screeding swells and peels when in contact with water. So obviously it won't be ideal for exterior use .
Why did you quote me Sir?

. I quoted you when you said " Screeding is used to correct ERRORS on cement plastering".