felixomor:


Sorry its religious when u say "u will be excommunicated for doing or not"
Sorry its religious.
No other animal gets excommunicated for sleeping with another's wife. Life goes on for them. Its survival of the fittest.

Truly, this is suprisingly ignorant...So Animals have wifes?, apparently i did not know.

Stop saying "survival of the fittest" when you dont even understand the meaning of the phrase, survival of the fittest is about the organisms with the right features suited for a particular environment would thrive and reproduce, it doesnt mean kill or be killed, thats just another one of the ignorant things in your post.

Lastly, Humans are higher cognitive group of mammals that are very social, and we have culture, we depend on the society to survive, so if we want to survive individual, we have to work together for the society to be strong as a unit. Now if we have one individual, going around killing people, raping children and stealing food for people, he obviously is going to be stepping on lot of toes, he cannot be allowed to remain in the group because he would risk the stability of the group. Animals like wolves would gang up and kill that individual, chimps, gorillas would do the same, hyenas would pursue that individual out of their pack, while we humans would lock them up in prisons.

felixomor:

And in case u dont know, u do good because u were raised in a religious home with religious parents who inculcated religious morals in ur upbringing while ur personality was being moulded.
Otherwise, u would av been something else.
So stop trying to act as though u knew when ur personality was formed and as such.
Thats why u do good.

Remove those morals that were brought by religion to mould society, what u have is animal kingdom and tarzans.
Period.

Another ignorant thing to say, you mean people from a different religion from yours would not have any morals?

Please, in one post, you have said alot of ignorant things, If Morals come from Religion, why are 95% of all in-mates religious?...Think before you spill out some ideas.

donnffd:


Truly, this is suprisingly ignorant...So Animals have wifes?, apparently i did not know.

Stop saying "survival of the fittest" when you dont even understand the meaning of the phrase, survival of the fittest is about the organisms with the right features suited for a particular environment would thrive and reproduce, it doesnt mean kill or be killed, thats just another one of the ignorant things in your post.

Lastly, Humans are higher cognitive group of mammals that are very social, and we have culture, we depend on the society to survive, so if we want to survive individual, we have to work together for the society to be strong as a unit. Now if we have one individual, going around killing people, raping children and stealing food for people, he obviously is going to be stepping on lot of toes, he cannot be allowed to remain in the group because he would risk the stability of the group. Animals like wolves would gang up and kill that individual, chimps, gorillas would do the same, hyenas would pursue that individual out of their pack, while we humans would lock them up in prisons.



Another ignorant thing to say, you mean people from a different religion from yours would not have any morals?

Please, in one post, you have said alot of ignorant things, If Morals come from Religion, why are 95% of all in-mates religious?...Think before you spill out some ideas.

Ur folly is quite pronounce.
Please google and see if animals have partners or wive equivalents and then come back to spill some more.

And If u say animals dont have partners or wives, it only further buttresses religion. because marriage originates from religion.
Let me see where u would argue that one from.

Again u claim humans have culture, please can u seperate culture and religion?
Can u have one and nor have the other?
U see how u folly again?

And sorry, u seem to live in another world, when an animal terrorizes others, he becomes the king of the lot.

U watch too many movies.
Sorry to say

AjalaJ:
Atheists are human beings like us, and they’ve their reasons for believing there’s no God. For them the so-called “spiritual experiences” don’t work for them.

But I know the most important reasons we’re religious is because of heavenly rewards, Or because of what would happen to us when we die (because of what would happen to us for eternity). This is the core reason behind Islam and Christianity; all other reasons are secondary.

I’ve seen atheists/agnostics who’re really good. They’re honest, dependable and sensible. They’re happy and successful in life. I’ve seen religious people being dishonest, roguish, and daft. Some of them are failures and unhappy. Yet, they’ve have heavenly hopes.

Now let me ask… Why are there atheists/agnostics that are good citizens, good friends, and good neighbors? One of them once told me that it’s good to be good, but NOT because of heavenly rewards.

Perhaps they’re good to avoid going to jail or tarnishing their family names.

Now, if there are no hopes of heavenly rewards… why do atheist do good things? In their viewpoints, what’s the benefits of doing good and disadvantages of doing bad?


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So you people (Christians and Muslims) do good only because of heavenly rewards? So can you outline those heavenly rewards that will be attractive enough to entice someone like me. Mind you, i hate noise. I hate praise worship and i am not particularly materialistic (not interested in gold at all). If you exist simply because of promise of heavenly rewards, why not avoid all the trouble of living this life and kill yourself. That will be a short cut to heaven. I do not blame Muslims who blow themselves up, with expectation of expressway to their promised heaven. Maybe you Christians should follow them also.

Doing good to ones specie is an evolutionary strategy that enhances specie survival and therefore personal survival. If man evolved to be anti social, that is murdering and stealing from ones relatives, clan or tribe without rules, we would have since gone extinct. One wonders why other Homo species went extinct about 100,000 years ago. At one time there were 4 Homo species living on the planet but only the Homo Sapiens survived. I am certain it is mainly due to our social behaviour. Being Good (ethical social behaviour) is essential in building villages, town and cities which is an essential social construct to ensure group or specie survival.

felixomor:


Wether social or not, animals kill each other.
Lets not dwell too much on that.

And I hope u know "good" doesnt just involve not killing.
" Good" also involves not sleeping with another man's wife. Or u want to also argue animals follow that?

And if u say people are naturally good and evil, then some babies are going to be bad, no matter what.
That sounds religious to me.
Then how would u explain very bad people being transformed and coming to live a good life after certain experiences?
Does it mean their nature changed from "bad" to 'good"?
That also sounds religious to me.

Are you telling us that you do not know that sleeping with another Lion's wife (one of the wives of the dominant male) in a lion pride can lead to ex-communication and possible death of the offending lion? Same thing with Gorillas and some other social animals. I have even seen hens fight to the point of death over a hen.
You people need to remove your noses from the Bible once a while and learn about this world you live in.

wirinet:


Are you telling us that you do not know that sleeping with another Lion's wife (one of the wives of the dominant male) in a lion pride can lead to ex-communication and possible death of the offending lion? Same thing with Gorillas and some other social animals. I have even seen hens fight to the point of death over a hen.
You people need to remove your noses from the Bible once a while and learn about this world you live in.

Oh sorry, its like u want to overflog the issue.
Lets go

Please read here

http://www.livescience.com/41572-male-lion-survival.html

It explains why only few male lions survive because many of them are overpowered as they become sexually mature.
Asides that, male lions are also notorious for killing cubs.
It happens in many other animals too.

Sometimes u people just want to keep arguing.
Continue.
Ur colleague above, just now was arguing that animals dont have wives or partners just now.
I hope u can start by correcting him and then correct urself.

Let the whole world live without religion, live like animals with no written rules and lets see.
Russia, north korea etc have tried it before. We saw the outcome.

Carry go

felixomor:


Oh sorry, its like u want to overflog the issue.
Lets go

Please read here

http://www.livescience.com/41572-male-lion-survival.html

It explains why only few male lions survive because many of them are overpowered as they become sexually mature.
Asides that, male lions are also notorious for killing cubs.
It happens in many other animals too.

Sometimes u people just want to keep arguing.
Continue.
Ur colleague above, just now was arguing that animals dont have wives or partners just now.
I hope u can start by correcting him and then correct urself.

Let the whole world live without religion, live like animals with no written rules and lets see.
Russia, north korea etc have tried it before. We saw the outcome.

Carry go

Debating with you guys is similar to debating with a 6 year old. You argue on issues you have no idea about.

You made an assertion that other animals do not have or keep spouses (wives) like humans do. We then tried to educate you that lots of other animals do keep not just one spouse but sometimes numerous spouses, i used lions and Gorilla as example. You then veered of the tangent by yapping about why male lions survive because many of them are overpowered as they become sexually mature and male lions killing cubs of newly acquired prides. How does this support your argument of lions not keeping wives?
Nobody is arguing about whether this social behaviour is beneficial or detrimental to the lion specie as a whole, and it is apparently not beneficial as lion population is dwindling fast and needs to be protected by humans or they would go extinct.

Now to further debunk your vain arguments that other animals do not keep wives, it is known that about 90% of bird species are monogamous, some remain faithful to each other for life.

We’ve all heard it countless times: Certain bird species mate for life, including geese, swans, cranes and eagles. It’s a true statement, for the most part, but it’s only part of the story. Lots of monogamous bird species cheat, and some “divorce”—but at rates much lower than humans.

About 90 percent of bird species are monogamous, which means a male and a female form a pair bond. But monogamy isn’t the same as mating for life. A pair bond may last for just one nesting, such as with house wrens; one breeding season, common with most songbird species; several seasons, or life.
http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/bwdsite/solve/faqs/do-birds-mate-for-life.php

wirinet:


Debating with you guys is similar to debating with a 6 year old. You argue on issues you have no idea about.

U clearly are the one who didnt read the comments of ur colleague before commenting. Only 6 year olds do that.

wirinet:


You made an assertion that other animals do not have or keep spouses (wives) like humans do. We then tried to educate you that lots of other animals do keep not just one spouse but sometimes numerous spouses, i used lions and Gorilla as example.

Its ur colleague who made the assertion and I referred him to google instantly.
But I can see u are not reading before commenting.
So go and educate ur colleague and then follow up by educating urself.

wirinet:


You then veered of the tangent by yapping about why male lions survive because many of them are overpowered as they become sexually mature and male lions killing cubs of newly acquired prides. How does this support your argument of lions not keeping wives?

Sorry my argument is not that lions keep wives.
Again ur blindness surfaces.
Ur colleague said lions and animals excommunicate those who step on others toes and my evidence says the opposite.
Its actually the wicked ones who become king.
So try harder.

wirinet:


Nobody is arguing about whether this social behaviour is beneficial or detrimental to the lion specie as a whole,

Sorry, ur colleague seems to disagree with u on that.

wirinet:

and it is apparently not beneficial as lion population is dwindling fast and needs to be protected by humans or they would go extinct.

Exactly because the males can actually keep killing themselves till no one is left to reproduce.
And thats what ur colleague says doesnt happen.

wirinet:


Now to further debunk your vain arguments that other animals do not keep wives, it is known that about 90% of bird species are monogamous, some remain faithful to each other for life.

Again u r stating what is not my argument.
My argument is "good" and "bad" among humans vs among other animals that dont have religious basis for morals.

In summary, read better Next time.