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Re: An Important Question For Atheists by donnffd(m): 10:10am On Oct 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Truly, this is suprisingly ignorant...So Animals have wifes?, apparently i did not know. Stop saying "survival of the fittest" when you dont even understand the meaning of the phrase, survival of the fittest is about the organisms with the right features suited for a particular environment would thrive and reproduce, it doesnt mean kill or be killed, thats just another one of the ignorant things in your post. Lastly, Humans are higher cognitive group of mammals that are very social, and we have culture, we depend on the society to survive, so if we want to survive individual, we have to work together for the society to be strong as a unit. Now if we have one individual, going around killing people, raping children and stealing food for people, he obviously is going to be stepping on lot of toes, he cannot be allowed to remain in the group because he would risk the stability of the group. Animals like wolves would gang up and kill that individual, chimps, gorillas would do the same, hyenas would pursue that individual out of their pack, while we humans would lock them up in prisons. felixomor: Another ignorant thing to say, you mean people from a different religion from yours would not have any morals? Please, in one post, you have said alot of ignorant things, If Morals come from Religion, why are 95% of all in-mates religious?...Think before you spill out some ideas. 1 Like |
Re: An Important Question For Atheists by felixomor: 10:23am On Oct 17, 2016 |
donnffd: Ur folly is quite pronounce. Please google and see if animals have partners or wive equivalents and then come back to spill some more. And If u say animals dont have partners or wives, it only further buttresses religion. because marriage originates from religion. Let me see where u would argue that one from. Again u claim humans have culture, please can u seperate culture and religion? Can u have one and nor have the other? U see how u folly again? And sorry, u seem to live in another world, when an animal terrorizes others, he becomes the king of the lot. U watch too many movies. Sorry to say |
Re: An Important Question For Atheists by wirinet(m): 11:21am On Oct 17, 2016 |
AjalaJ: So you people (Christians and Muslims) do good only because of heavenly rewards? So can you outline those heavenly rewards that will be attractive enough to entice someone like me. Mind you, i hate noise. I hate praise worship and i am not particularly materialistic (not interested in gold at all). If you exist simply because of promise of heavenly rewards, why not avoid all the trouble of living this life and kill yourself. That will be a short cut to heaven. I do not blame Muslims who blow themselves up, with expectation of expressway to their promised heaven. Maybe you Christians should follow them also. Doing good to ones specie is an evolutionary strategy that enhances specie survival and therefore personal survival. If man evolved to be anti social, that is murdering and stealing from ones relatives, clan or tribe without rules, we would have since gone extinct. One wonders why other Homo species went extinct about 100,000 years ago. At one time there were 4 Homo species living on the planet but only the Homo Sapiens survived. I am certain it is mainly due to our social behaviour. Being Good (ethical social behaviour) is essential in building villages, town and cities which is an essential social construct to ensure group or specie survival. |
Re: An Important Question For Atheists by wirinet(m): 11:38am On Oct 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Are you telling us that you do not know that sleeping with another Lion's wife (one of the wives of the dominant male) in a lion pride can lead to ex-communication and possible death of the offending lion? Same thing with Gorillas and some other social animals. I have even seen hens fight to the point of death over a hen. You people need to remove your noses from the Bible once a while and learn about this world you live in. |
Re: An Important Question For Atheists by felixomor: 11:53am On Oct 17, 2016 |
wirinet: Oh sorry, its like u want to overflog the issue. Lets go Please read here http://www.livescience.com/41572-male-lion-survival.html It explains why only few male lions survive because many of them are overpowered as they become sexually mature. Asides that, male lions are also notorious for killing cubs. It happens in many other animals too. Sometimes u people just want to keep arguing. Continue. Ur colleague above, just now was arguing that animals dont have wives or partners just now. I hope u can start by correcting him and then correct urself. Let the whole world live without religion, live like animals with no written rules and lets see. Russia, north korea etc have tried it before. We saw the outcome. Carry go |
Re: An Important Question For Atheists by wirinet(m): 1:21pm On Oct 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Debating with you guys is similar to debating with a 6 year old. You argue on issues you have no idea about. You made an assertion that other animals do not have or keep spouses (wives) like humans do. We then tried to educate you that lots of other animals do keep not just one spouse but sometimes numerous spouses, i used lions and Gorilla as example. You then veered of the tangent by yapping about why male lions survive because many of them are overpowered as they become sexually mature and male lions killing cubs of newly acquired prides. How does this support your argument of lions not keeping wives? Nobody is arguing about whether this social behaviour is beneficial or detrimental to the lion specie as a whole, and it is apparently not beneficial as lion population is dwindling fast and needs to be protected by humans or they would go extinct. Now to further debunk your vain arguments that other animals do not keep wives, it is known that about 90% of bird species are monogamous, some remain faithful to each other for life. We’ve all heard it countless times: Certain bird species mate for life, including geese, swans, cranes and eagles. It’s a true statement, for the most part, but it’s only part of the story. Lots of monogamous bird species cheat, and some “divorce”—but at rates much lower than humans. |
Re: An Important Question For Atheists by felixomor: 1:57pm On Oct 17, 2016 |
wirinet: U clearly are the one who didnt read the comments of ur colleague before commenting. Only 6 year olds do that. wirinet: Its ur colleague who made the assertion and I referred him to google instantly. But I can see u are not reading before commenting. So go and educate ur colleague and then follow up by educating urself. wirinet: Sorry my argument is not that lions keep wives. Again ur blindness surfaces. Ur colleague said lions and animals excommunicate those who step on others toes and my evidence says the opposite. Its actually the wicked ones who become king. So try harder. wirinet:Sorry, ur colleague seems to disagree with u on that. wirinet: Exactly because the males can actually keep killing themselves till no one is left to reproduce. And thats what ur colleague says doesnt happen. wirinet: Again u r stating what is not my argument. My argument is "good" and "bad" among humans vs among other animals that dont have religious basis for morals. In summary, read better Next time. |
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