Oduduas real name is Ishmael Oduari, it's not even a Yoruba or Benin name. He was heaven sent was the term not that he came from the Sky.

I would have given you props for a Nice right up until u claim Oba is not a Yoruba Word. Oba in Yoruba means the 1st to Arrive or the 1st person you meet there. My Grandfather was Oba Adesoji Aderemi Late Ooni Of Ife before Oba Sijuade. I know our history more than you. Odudua conquered Bini and Left his Son Oromiyan In charge and return to His throne in Ile-ife , Oromiyan Return to take over Oyos Throne and Left his throne in benin for his Son Owomika . The children of Oromiyan are the only Families allowed to be Kings in Ife. The Akui, The lafigido, The Ogboru and The osinkola all my spelling of the names are Wrong sha lol. Oba of bini is our cousin and he most surely Visit his fore father's Throne in Ile-Ife. Bini is bearly 10kilometers by 10kilometers and you want to be Claim over Yoruba Land that's thousands of Miles wide. Omo is also a Yoruba Word means child. Your people are claim our Words as yours the same Way Igbos and Ghanaians are Claiming Asewo is their Word. Not all yorubas are what you think they are, Just the ones you know, broaden your horizons.


Fyi Oduduas real name is Ishmael Oduari not a Yoruba or Benin name.

sexybaby22:
Now am writing to see if this oba too will travel up and down like the ooni

Benin kings are prisoners of their throne. They are only allowed to leave their Palace once a year.

dapsonlou:
I would have given you props for a Nice right up until u claim Oba is not a Yoruba Word. Oba in Yoruba means the 1st to Arrive or the 1st person you meet there. My Grandfather was Oba Adesoji Aderemi Late Ooni Of Ife before Oba Sijuade. I know our history more than you. Odudua conquered Bini and Left his Son Oromiyan In charge and return to His throne in Ile-ife , When Oduduwa Died Oromiyan Return to take his father's Throne and Left his throne in benin for his Son Owomika . The children of Oromiyan are the only Families allowed to be Kings in Ife. The Akui, The lafigido, The Ogboru and The osinkola all my spelling of the names are Wrong sha lol. Oba of bini is our cousin and he most surely Visit his fore father's Throne in Ile-Ife. Bini is bearly 10kilometers by 10kilometers and you want to be Claim over Yoruba Land that's thousands of Miles wide. Omo is also a Yoruba Word means child. Your people are claim our Words as yours the same Way Igbos and Ghanaians are Claiming Asewo is their Word. Not all yorubas are what you think they are, Just the ones you know, broaden your horizons.


Fyi Oduduas real name is Ishmael Oduari not a Yoruba or Benin name.

I dont have time for illitracy you are clearly an illiterate...... Like i said earlier your oonis alaafins or other bullshit u ppl call ur kings are inferior to THE OBA IN BENIN!!


THE MERE TOTS OF U ILLITERATE EVEN TRYING TO COMPARE CROWN BOUGHT WITH MONEY TO A FIRST CLASS CROWN IN BENIN MAKES ME LAFF FOR AGES

1)ODUDUWA IS EKALEHAN A BENIN PRINCE

2) ALL YORUBA KINGS ARE BAASTARD GRANDKIDS FROM THE BENIN ROYAL STOLL

FOOCK OFF ABEG MAKE I SEE BETA PPL.

YOU JUST READ THE RUBBUSH U TYPED HAHAHAHAHA DAMN

Why is this Idiot so abusive? You can't get your point across without Insulting your fore father's way?

Why is this ode so abusive? You can't get your point across without Insulting your fore father's way?

Oga am a native of Igarra, our language is known and called ETUNO.... and i can tell u 99% of Igarra bears yoruba name shikena

BornStunner1:


Akoko-Edo is one of the six (6) Local Government Areas in the Afenmai/Afemai Region in Edo North Senatorial District of Edo State of Nigeria with Its Headquarters at Igarra. The distance from Igarra to Benin City the Capital of Edo –State is approximately 160 km.(WIKIPEDIA)


AKOKO EDO IS AFEMAI OOOO JESUS THE Yorubas THERE ARE HOUSE MAIDS AND COOKS TO AFEMAI
AFEMAI SPEAK EDO AS A FIRST LANGUAGE BLENDED WITH A VERY LILTLE urhobo

Am from Igarra in Akoko-Edo L.G.A.... We did not understand d benin language.... Our own language is called ETUNO..... And 99% of us bears yoruba name

Onijagidijagan:

you such a liar, my girlfriend is afemai when benin people are talking she doesn't understand...tell d lie to someone that hasn't bn to edo before.

Xclusivegrin007:
Oga am a native of Igarra, our language is known and called ETUNO.... and i can tell u 99% of Igarra bears yoruba name shikena

YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT SO FOOCK OFF LEMME SEE BETA PPL......... SEE FACE LIKE PAWPAW SEED MR MAN NIXODEM IS JUST 150# BUY ONE

ETUNO MY FEET U BETA GO BACK TO OYO OR IJEBU OR WATEVA YORUBA VILLAGE U MIGRATED FROM

Xclusivegrin007:
Am from Igarra in Akoko-Edo L.G.A.... We did not understand d benin language.... Our own language is called ETUNO..... And 99% of us bears yoruba name

I believe he said the same thing you are Accusing him off. He said they don't understand Benin Language

Yes, he's very right....
I just want them to know the guy is saying the truth

dapsonlou:


I believe he said the same thing you are Accusing him off. He said they don't understand Benin Language

KingOvoramwen1:


Ohh no Oduduwa fell from sky with a chain, two fowl and two tribal mark faced women and started borning u ppl and planting cassava hahaha abeg dude be sensible Oduduwa was prince Ekelerehan dat was barnished from benin and wandered onto Uhe wich u ppl call Ife and he told u ppl he was an Ogiso wich means Sky King wich was the title benin kings bore at that time so he successfully convinced u ppl that u ppl made him king lool i swear even up till now yoruba OT never still change...

YOU WANNA TIFF WORD NA USELU WICH IS ONE OF THE MOST COMMON BENIN WORDS YOU WAN TIFF HAHAHA ABEG I NORFIT LAFF
Oboy Laho dnt digrace urself here

Hmm. So Yoruba pple and scam no start today. Nice revelation.

arazanbal:


that una ooni of ife wy b tourist na u wnt take compare the crown price of benin kingdom? Dt una ooni wy go visit obafemi matins d footballer nd even dy take selfy with am anyhow like 2morow nor dy,when dm dy talk am 4 bini say oba nor dy go transfer u tink say na joke!!! Nor go dr oo,the binis 2get swagg o

to be honest, I consider the late oba Erediauwa to be highly classy and a better Oba than most of the yoruba obas but we are talking about the THRONE and DYNASTY not the individual..any oba of Benin can be whatever of a great king but traditional the stool has a superior that is the throne of his forefathers in Ife


but u must be utterly stupid and disrespectful to compare an actual oba. ..the Ooni for that matter to a common prince. ..why not wait till he has spent 6 months as omo n'oba before playing your comparison game

And this an earthly kingship fa. How I wish my people can be this zealous for the KINGDOM of GOD in heaven.

dapsonlou:
I would have given you props for a Nice right up until u claim Oba is not a Yoruba Word. Oba in Yoruba means the 1st to Arrive or the 1st person you meet there. My Grandfather was Oba Adesoji Aderemi Late Ooni Of Ife before Oba Sijuade. I know our history more than you. Odudua conquered Bini and Left his Son Oromiyan In charge and return to His throne in Ile-ife , Oromiyan Return to take over Oyos Throne and Left his throne in benin for his Son Owomika . The children of Oromiyan are the only Families allowed to be Kings in Ife. The Akui, The lafigido, The Ogboru and The osinkola all my spelling of the names are Wrong sha lol. Oba of bini is our cousin and he most surely Visit his fore father's Throne in Ile-Ife. Bini is bearly 10kilometers by 10kilometers and you want to be Claim over Yoruba Land that's thousands of Miles wide. Omo is also a Yoruba Word means child. Your people are claim our Words as yours the same Way Igbos and Ghanaians are Claiming Asewo is their Word. Not all yorubas are what you think they are, Just the ones you know, broaden your horizons.


Fyi Oduduas real name is Ishmael Oduari not a Yoruba or Benin name.

Fight and argue all you want, Abeg no involve us, claim asewo for wetin na
Asewo is Akwuna in Igbo, so please say what you know!

Ubenedictus:
There was a people in nigeria a very ancient tribe, called d nok people. they are nowhere today. italy once controlled the entire world yet they arent the most populated today, before that the greeks were controling the world even though today they are one small country.

edo used to control large parts of d south west and south south and many tribes trace their origin to bini yet today they are a small state.

stop saying nonsense. Rome or the Greeks never controlled the whole world


you know quite well that nobody is arguing bini controlled some parts of SW but the throne of bini is ultimately of yoruba origin this is what you know without any Yoruba person telling you, you even say it as you acknowledge oranmiyan but this inferiority complex won't allow you think straight

Ihuomadinihu:
Oh Boy! These groups and their complex repertoire of history. At the end of the day,they end up confusing themselves and other nairalands. I've tried to read up on Oduduwa and Ife and there are conflicting tales surronding it. Phew!
It feels good to be Igbo and mostly simple and republican in nature. No igbo has the time for this uncordinated,extensive recollection of history, moreso,when it involves intense arguments over the real origin of a certain larger than life personality.
Anyway,i wanted to correct an impression. The word 'Oba' might represent a Ruler in Benin and Yoruba language that doesn't mean both groups can claim to be originators of the word.
In Igbo language, 'Oba' stands for a number of things. Don't be surprised to find regular women bearing oba back in the days.
Just like no group can exclusively claim the word 'Ife'.
Ife mean something entirely different in Igbolanguage.
Let Oba represent your ruler and other things in Igbo language. No one has the right to make exclusive claims to it.

point noted but "Oba" is not just a common word but a title even if it wasn't it still doesn't take away the yoruba uniqueness in it. of course "Oba" might have meanings in different languages doesn't say it is the same word or that they are even related words

Edo in Japanese isn't the same word or in any way related to Edo in bini language

just because words sound alike doesn't mean they are cognates

bisi16:
Hmm. So Yoruba pple and scam no start today. Nice revelation.

E DON TEY OO

KingOvoramwen1:



If dem born you well enter Benin or Warri with this your mentality you will learn why those yoruba immigrants in benin are very docile and meek hahaha.......... infact we call them Bingos

how can you say ayelala is a variation of benin language? It's a deity worshipped in my town and no ethnic group in yorubaland has ever dragged it with us...... Benin is just a mixture of confused people, read the first post and tell me what ODEOBA really means in benin, we know it's a yoruba word and it means king road it can also be broken down to OJUDEOBA or O/ju/o/de/o/ba. Can you explain why you remain a minority in Nigeria if indeed you're the source of yoruba heritage....... To us (yoruba) you're just a breakaway tribe just like ilorin ( the descendants of Afonja and Alimi).

What do people gain from alteration of true history?
1) Oba is a general word for kings. Then, every king has a traditional domain upon which his tittle is based, hence every Oba has a tittle because they own the land.
The case of Benin is different only because according to the treaty, EKIOPAGHA TREATY, the Oba of Benin is not the land owner. The Head of Ogianmen family should be aware of this, the treaty refers to him as a tenant because his origin ( forget the Ekalerdahan fabrication) is Ife. The matter resurfaced during the reign of the 4th Oba of Benin, Oba Oguola or Ewuare, He was confronted by Ogianmen asked to "go back to the land of your father". This led to a short war which the Oba won but did not necessarily change history.
2) Doest it mean that at such a early time in Benin history, the people did not know about Ekalerdahan/Oduduwa debacle? The truth is, it's a relatively recent fabrication to hide true history.
3) If the Ekalederhan/Oduduwa transformation was true,
a. why did Oranmiyan not reign as as an Ogiso? The 32nd or 33rd? Why a departure from Ogisoship to Obaship?
b. Why did Oranmiyan have to build a new palace instead of the one used by the last Ogisos? Yes, a new palace could be built, in such cases, the coronation of new kings still take place at the original palace of that thrown.
4) Ignorance is a big issue here because many commentators assume THE HISTORY OF A PEOPLE IS THE SAME AS THE HISTORY OF THEIR KINGS, they're not always the same.
5) Yorubas are partly guilty for this Benin falsification of history by not telling the whole truth. Youruba history predates the historical Oduduwa(I'm not competent to talk about the spiritual Oduduwa who created the world). From genetic mappings, the Yoruba's had existed for thousands of years before the coming of Oduduwa.
6) As a sincere student of history, have you ever asked where Benin people came from? Why there are similarities in languages? Don't listen to any cock and bull story of journey from Egypt because we're older than Egypt. The Benin people came from the place where more than 60% of the tribes and languages in Africa originated from, and that is also the origin of the Yoruba.
This civilization was at the bank of river Niger. Yorubas referred to it as Ile Ife, there and then the Benin people were known as Efa people, it was referred to as Nyuife by others. Nyuife was corrupted to Nupe. Whether you like it or not, that's where we all came from. Flooding made the people to relocate to present day geographical area called Ife, it is actually the second Ife.
7) The Idia mask and other artworks the Binis and Ife people take pride in originated from the Nok culture, the Nok culture has been traced to this same civilization on the bank of the Niger.
Lastly, people should leave ego aside and pursue empirical and scientific evidence. Benin Obas are Yorubas from Ile Ife or Second Ife if you wish, but then what's the fuss? Nupe, Yoruba, Benin, and countless others have the same origin. However, the truth must be told, that origin is not Benin but a different geographical area know today as Nupe. The Binis were not the first to set foot on Benin, the Ijaws were first. This explains why Uzama from Ijaw ama, meaning Ijaw land is the oldest quarters in Benin.

ianSweet:


U seem to be angered and u are commenting unnecesarily. That is not an intelligent way to answer this question. You started this thread well by enlightening us only for you to start this.



Now to answer your question.
Edo may not be as populated as Yoruba because the Oyo empire conquered more people and territory than the Benin empire did and the Oyo people forced their language down on all their subjects and this is how the Oyo dialect of yoruba united all the other yoruba subgroups in Nigeria.

Benin on the other hand used to believe that their language and cultures were sacred and superior and should never be spoken by their subjects and this was the greatest mistake the bini kingdom made, they never enforced their language on their subjects.
Almost the whole of Edo state are descendants of Bini Kingdom, majority of Delta state ethnic groups also look up to Benin as their origin, many parts of Ondo and Rivers also look up to Edo as their origin, even Lagos too. Even the Onitsha people of Anambra state claim to have come from Benin and all these groups continued to pay their homage to Benin kingdom, many up to today.
Imagine if all these Benin descendants had retained their original language or a form of Edo which served as a lingua franca just as Oyo serve as a lingua franca among all yorubas, they would have been identified and classified as one ethnic group by the colonial masters and would have been probably over 20 million people in 5 different states now.

Stop saying what you don't know, yorubas have existed longer before ibini ,so this is the main reason for the population

macof:



point noted but "Oba" is not just a common word but a title even if it wasn't it still doesn't take away the yoruba uniqueness in it. of course "Oba" might have meanings in different languages doesn't say it is the same word or that they are even related words

Edo in Japanese isn't the same word or in any way related to Edo in bini language

just because words sound alike doesn't mean they are cognates

I see what you mean and i mean the same thing. It's a battle between yoruba and benin on the true origin of the title 'Oba',nevertheless both groups can't claim the word beyond their territory. It is a word with different meanings outside that region.

fatiaforreal:
What do people gain from alteration of true history?
1) Oba is a general word for kings. Then, every king has a traditional domain upon which his tittle is based, hence every Oba has a tittle because they own the land.
The case of Benin is different only because according to the treaty, EKIOPAGHA TREATY, the Oba of Benin is not the land owner. The Head of Ogianmen family should be aware of this, the treaty refers to him as a tenant because his origin ( forget the Ekalerdahan fabrication) is Ife. The matter resurfaced during the reign of the 4th Oba of Benin, Oba Oguola or Ewuare, He was confronted by Ogianmen asked to "go back to the land of your father". This led to a short war which the Oba won but did not necessarily change history.
2) Doest it mean that at such a early time in Benin history, the people did not know about Ekalerdahan/Oduduwa debacle? The truth is, it's a relatively recent fabrication to hide true history.
3) If the Ekalederhan/Oduduwa transformation was true,
a. why did Oranmiyan not reign as as an Ogiso? The 32nd or 33rd? Why a departure from Ogisoship to Obaship?
b. Why did Oranmiyan have to build a new palace instead of the one used by the last Ogisos? Yes, a new palace could be built, in such cases, the coronation of new kings still take place at the original palace of that thrown.
4) Ignorance is a big issue here because many commentators assume THE HISTORY OF A PEOPLE IS THE SAME AS THE HISTORY OF THEIR KINGS, they're not always the same.
5) Yorubas are partly guilty for this Benin falsification of history by not telling the whole truth. Youruba history predates the historical Oduduwa(I'm not competent to talk about the spiritual Oduduwa who created the world). From genetic mappings, the Yoruba's had existed for thousands of years before the coming of Oduduwa.
6) As a sincere student of history, have you ever asked where Benin people came from? Why there are similarities in languages? Don't listen to any cock and bull story of journey from Egypt because we're older than Egypt. The Benin people came from the place where more than 60% of the tribes and languages in Africa originated from, and that is also the origin of the Yoruba.
This civilization was at the bank of river Niger. Yorubas referred to it as Ile Ife, there and then the Benin people were known as Efa people, it was referred to as Nyuife by others. Nyuife was corrupted to Nupe. Whether you like it or not, that's where we all came from. Flooding made the people to relocate to present day geographical area called Ife, it is actually the second Ife.
7) The Idia mask and other artworks the Binis and Ife people take pride in originated from the Nok culture, the Nok culture has been traced to this same civilization on the bank of the Niger.
Lastly, people should leave ego aside and pursue empirical and scientific evidence. Benin Obas are Yorubas from Ile Ife or Second Ife if you wish, but then what's the fuss? Nupe, Yoruba, Benin, and countless others have the same origin. However, the truth must be told, that origin is not Benin but a different geographical area know today as Nupe. The Binis were not the first to set foot on Benin, the Ijaws were first. This explains why Uzama from Ijaw ama, meaning Ijaw land is the oldest quarters in Benin.

U must be a student of history

dapsonlou:
I would have given you props for a Nice right up until u claim Oba is not a Yoruba Word. Oba in Yoruba means the 1st to Arrive or the 1st person you meet there. My Grandfather was Oba Adesoji Aderemi Late Ooni Of Ife before Oba Sijuade. I know our history more than you. Odudua conquered Bini and Left his Son Oromiyan In charge and return to His throne in Ile-ife , Oromiyan Return to take over Oyos Throne and Left his throne in benin for his Son Owomika . The children of Oromiyan are the only Families allowed to be Kings in Ife. The Akui, The lafigido, The Ogboru and The osinkola all my spelling of the names are Wrong sha lol. Oba of bini is our cousin and he most surely Visit his fore father's Throne in Ile-Ife. Bini is bearly 10kilometers by 10kilometers and you want to be Claim over Yoruba Land that's thousands of Miles wide. Omo is also a Yoruba Word means child. Your people are claim our Words as yours the same Way Igbos and Ghanaians are Claiming Asewo is their Word. Not all yorubas are what you think they are, Just the ones you know, broaden your horizons.


Fyi Oduduas real name is Ishmael Oduari not a Yoruba or Benin name.

There is no way igbos claim Ashewo as an Igbo word. We have legitimate words for prostitutes and they are Akwunakwuna,Iko amongst others.
Ashewo is just a word that has gone into mainstream Nigerian vocabulary,it's not Igbo.

Ihuomadinihu:

I see what you mean and i mean the same thing. It's a battle between yoruba and benin on the true origin of the title 'Oba',nevertheless both groups can't claim the word beyond their territory. It is a word with different meanings outside that region.

Yes it is now a valid Benin Word as it is used interchangeably with the original bini word of "Ogie" but for Bini, the reality is that "Oba" is a loan word... like Wakati (a yoruba loan word from arabic is still a yoruba word).. the history of the two groups can tell that the use of the word to refer to the Bini king came after yoruba presence in person of the king himself

so the pronunciation can mean anything in bini language or even Igbo but would be a different word..two different words pronounced similarly .like the op mentioned something like "red or shining"

fatiaforreal:
What do people gain from alteration of true history?
1) Oba is a general word for kings. Then, every king has a traditional domain upon which his tittle is based, hence every Oba has a tittle because they own the land.
The case of Benin is different only because according to the treaty, EKIOPAGHA TREATY, the Oba of Benin is not the land owner. The Head of Ogianmen family should be aware of this, the treaty refers to him as a tenant because his origin ( forget the Ekalerdahan fabrication) is Ife. The matter resurfaced during the reign of the 4th Oba of Benin, Oba Oguola or Ewuare, He was confronted by Ogianmen asked to "go back to the land of your father". This led to a short war which the Oba won but did not necessarily change history.
2) Doest it mean that at such a early time in Benin history, the people did not know about Ekalerdahan/Oduduwa debacle? The truth is, it's a relatively recent fabrication to hide true history.
3) If the Ekalederhan/Oduduwa transformation was true,
a. why did Oranmiyan not reign as as an Ogiso? The 32nd or 33rd? Why a departure from Ogisoship to Obaship?
b. Why did Oranmiyan have to build a new palace instead of the one used by the last Ogisos? Yes, a new palace could be built, in such cases, the coronation of new kings still take place at the original palace of that thrown.
4) Ignorance is a big issue here because many commentators assume THE HISTORY OF A PEOPLE IS THE SAME AS THE HISTORY OF THEIR KINGS, they're not always the same.
5) Yorubas are partly guilty for this Benin falsification of history by not telling the whole truth. Youruba history predates the historical Oduduwa(I'm not competent to talk about the spiritual Oduduwa who created the world). From genetic mappings, the Yoruba's had existed for thousands of years before the coming of Oduduwa.
6) As a sincere student of history, have you ever asked where Benin people came from? Why there are similarities in languages? Don't listen to any cock and bull story of journey from Egypt because we're older than Egypt. The Benin people came from the place where more than 60% of the tribes and languages in Africa originated from, and that is also the origin of the Yoruba.
This civilization was at the bank of river Niger. Yorubas referred to it as Ile Ife, there and then the Benin people were known as Efa people, it was referred to as Nyuife by others. Nyuife was corrupted to Nupe. Whether you like it or not, that's where we all came from. Flooding made the people to relocate to present day geographical area called Ife, it is actually the second Ife.
7) The Idia mask and other artworks the Binis and Ife people take pride in originated from the Nok culture, the Nok culture has been traced to this same civilization on the bank of the Niger.
Lastly, people should leave ego aside and pursue empirical and scientific evidence. Benin Obas are Yorubas from Ile Ife or Second Ife if you wish, but then what's the fuss? Nupe, Yoruba, Benin, and countless others have the same origin. However, the truth must be told, that origin is not Benin but a different geographical area know today as Nupe. The Binis were not the first to set foot on Benin, the Ijaws were first. This explains why Uzama from Ijaw ama, meaning Ijaw land is the oldest quarters in Benin.

The questions here are still begging for answers. There's no point leaving the substance in pursuance of shadow.

fatiaforreal:
What do people gain from alteration of true history?
1) Oba is a general word for kings. Then, every king has a traditional domain upon which his tittle is based, hence every Oba has a tittle because they own the land.
The case of Benin is different only because according to the treaty, EKIOPAGHA TREATY, the Oba of Benin is not the land owner. The Head of Ogianmen family should be aware of this, the treaty refers to him as a tenant because his origin ( forget the Ekalerdahan fabrication) is Ife. The matter resurfaced during the reign of the 4th Oba of Benin, Oba Oguola or Ewuare, He was confronted by Ogianmen asked to "go back to the land of your father". This led to a short war which the Oba won but did not necessarily change history.
2) Doest it mean that at such a early time in Benin history, the people did not know about Ekalerdahan/Oduduwa debacle? The truth is, it's a relatively recent fabrication to hide true history.
3) If the Ekalederhan/Oduduwa transformation was true,
a. why did Oranmiyan not reign as as an Ogiso? The 32nd or 33rd? Why a departure from Ogisoship to Obaship?
b. Why did Oranmiyan have to build a new palace instead of the one used by the last Ogisos? Yes, a new palace could be built, in such cases, the coronation of new kings still take place at the original palace of that thrown.
4) Ignorance is a big issue here because many commentators assume THE HISTORY OF A PEOPLE IS THE SAME AS THE HISTORY OF THEIR KINGS, they're not always the same.
5) Yorubas are partly guilty for this Benin falsification of history by not telling the whole truth. Youruba history predates the historical Oduduwa(I'm not competent to talk about the spiritual Oduduwa who created the world). From genetic mappings, the Yoruba's had existed for thousands of years before the coming of Oduduwa.
6) As a sincere student of history, have you ever asked where Benin people came from? Why there are similarities in languages? Don't listen to any cock and bull story of journey from Egypt because we're older than Egypt. The Benin people came from the place where more than 60% of the tribes and languages in Africa originated from, and that is also the origin of the Yoruba.
This civilization was at the bank of river Niger. Yorubas referred to it as Ile Ife, there and then the Benin people were known as Efa people, it was referred to as Nyuife by others. Nyuife was corrupted to Nupe. Whether you like it or not, that's where we all came from. Flooding made the people to relocate to present day geographical area called Ife, it is actually the second Ife.
7) The Idia mask and other artworks the Binis and Ife people take pride in originated from the Nok culture, the Nok culture has been traced to this same civilization on the bank of the Niger.
Lastly, people should leave ego aside and pursue empirical and scientific evidence. Benin Obas are Yorubas from Ile Ife or Second Ife if you wish, but then what's the fuss? Nupe, Yoruba, Benin, and countless others have the same origin. However, the truth must be told, that origin is not Benin but a different geographical area know today as Nupe. The Binis were not the first to set foot on Benin, the Ijaws were first. This explains why Uzama from Ijaw ama, meaning Ijaw land is the oldest quarters in Benin.

after reading this I followed you immediately. we have the same ideas on the origin of southern & central Nigerian ethnicities

I would also like to add that I think the Nupe population is mixed with descendants of the lost Niger civilization and foreign invaders. ..that is leaving the yoruba and igala with the purest link to that civilization

It's a case of the tail trying to wag the dog.
Check the names of the early Obas, they're purely Yoruba with Bini pronouncements. Ogoola, Square, Obalufon. Even the last one ere Oduduwa in Yoruba means the statue of Oduduwa which the binis call Erediowa with the same meaning.
Yoruba name Agbolahan is Agbolahor in Benin.
Let the Bini historians here answer my questions in the earlier post. There was no Oba's in Benin until Oranmiyan came from Ife. Why didn't he and his descendants reign as Ogie or Ogiso? Until Oranmiyan came to Ife, the tittle Oba was never used. SIMPLE!

macof:



after reading this I followed you immediately. we have the same ideas on the origin of southern & central Nigerian ethnicities

I would also like to add that I think the Nupe population is mixed with descendants of the lost Niger civilization and foreign invaders. ..that is leaving the yoruba and igala with the purest link to that civilization

God bless you. Those are the aborigines of Nigeria up to the far north. The Hausas, and later the Fulanis arrived thousands of years later. The Binis are telling fairytale here. Let those who want to know the truth seek it. Binis are not as old as they're claiming. The Ijaws settled in Benin before them. If the likes of Igala are claiming Oduduwa came from them, it makes much more historical sense. Human civilization spread downwards from the Niger/Benue confluence area downwards.
It's a challenge,answer my questions if you can!

macof:



stop saying nonsense. Rome or the Greeks never controlled the whole world


you know quite well that nobody is arguing bini controlled some parts of SW but the throne of bini is ultimately of yoruba origin this is what you know without any Yoruba person telling you, you even say it as you acknowledge oranmiyan but this inferiority complex won't allow you think straight

must u inject urself anytime u see my username? did u not see d post i quoted? someone asked how come benin is small now though they claim to have controlled a larger area, i explain accordingly.
Rome did control what was the know world at the time and today they are small. i dont have d time to join issues with u, if u cant see my point and d post i was responding then keep off.

And lastly d claim dat the bini throne is yoruba is similar to d claim dat d yoruba throne is benin, that u disagree with the later doesnt give u d right to insult me. U have ur opinion and i have mine.