onomeasike:

You have started your editing again. It's Omo n'oba o.The son of a king

2dugged:
you are such a clown, I guess you actually believed someone could fall from the he sky with a chicken and formed the earth

clevadani:

all what you wrote up there is nonsense because the Oba just proclaimed with his own mouth that he is a direct descendant of Oduduwa and not ekhaladeran as you try to paint it.

YourNemesis:


lol, Weren't the Ogios also Sky Kings?

clevadani:

all what you wrote up there is nonsense because the Oba just proclaimed with his own mouth that he is a direct descendant of Oduduwa and not ekhaladeran as you try to paint it.

Vorpal:



So are you saying, the Benins are the progenitors of the yoruba race?

2dugged:
or should we believe that one man from the sky came down from heaven with a chicken and formed the earth?

clevadani:

all what you wrote up there is nonsense because the Oba just proclaimed with his own mouth that he is a direct descendant of Oduduwa and not ekhaladeran as you try to paint it.

Vorpal:


I don't believe that stupid story, however there is something of peculiar interest that led credence to that what you stated.


Ewuare was known to abolish the selection of kings and made it to be on a first son basis and reformed other things in the benin empire. I then noticed that other king ship in the yoruba States(where they Ewuare conquered at one time) still practise selection of a king among princes. But interestingly Ewuare sent the chiefs who selected kings in his domain to substitute other kingdoms he had conquered making who he wanted Prince in those places be kings.

It then makes sense that most kings in the west use the "Oba" title. Also if you look at the coronation of owo king, it is almost as exactly as the Benins. And to lend credence to the conquering of Benin empire, little wonder is it that benin republic also bears benin as a name too even though pronounced differently.

If I were yoruba, I will honestly accept Benin as the progenitors as yoruba.

However, I am ijebu, and my king says we are from Sudan, and certain links has existed to prove that. Based on language we have no ties to yoruba and we only adopted "oba* around the 18th century after which the British had shaken up Western Nigeria abit.

I honestly believe the Benins are progenitors to the yorubas.

YourNemesis:


lol, Weren't the Ogios also Sky Kings?
Your co.ck and Bull bini revisionist story up there clearly talks about The art of Divination, which is as much bullshit as the famous Yoruba story of oduduwa. Benin the capital of witchcraft is also talking about rational belief.... Hohoho

Ubenedictus:
HE also clearly said that oduduwa is ekhaladeran a prince from benin did u miss it?

2dugged:
Ogisos meaning KING OF THE SKY, this was long before Ekalerderhan or Oduduwa's Grandfather, they were a proud and prosperous kingdom. Ekalerderhan was the son of an Ogiso banished from the kingdom who on trying to introduce himself to a people who could not understand him but were awed by his presence must have pointed to the sky and they mistakingly think he came from the sky and made him king. The benin people later realised that ekalerderhan was wrongfully banished when is father died an expedition was sent in search of the banished prince this expedition got to ife and found the prince who refused to leave his new kingdom but instead sent his son this was the beginning for the relationship between the too. Oba in Benin has 2 meaning shining or reddish, Omo n' Oba means the shining child, am sure you are smart enough to relate it to Ogiso. What bothers me most in the yoruba claim is how an educated person will choose to 'ignorantly' believe that someone fell from the sky.heheheheheh, I can sense frustration already

Ubenedictus:
Not really he is saying oduduwa was a stranger to ife and benin is his origin.

midehi2:

sharaap

Ubenedictus:
HE also clearly said that oduduwa is ekhaladeran a prince from benin did u miss it?

YourNemesis:


lol, READ UP girl.

Oba in Yoruba simply means King... no other meaning. Apparently, form your explanation Oba in Benin means Shining....Hilarious.
Ogisos of bini city state were not empire builders, they were rulers of little significance until The rulership of Benin got an injection of Yoruba blood into their royalty, after which Benin became an empire.

Ife was a more advanced polity than Igodomigodo.
*Paved roads of Ife predates that of Benin
* Yoruba (Of the Ife dialect) was the previous language of the Benin court
* Ife bronze heads predates that of Benin by carbon dating, Infact Benin bronze casting was on knowledge from Ife teachers
* Ife attained the Bronze Age before 1170, (Thurstan Shaw 1977). Benin attained it during the reign of Oguola about 1400.

However, could someone coming from a far less civilized society establish a magnificent kingdom in a much more civilized polity? Archaeological evidence about the Ogiso period had not shown any magnificent civilization. From 1472 when the Portuguese explorers first reached the coast of the Benin River or the Bight of Benin, until 1960 when Nigerians became independent from colonial rule, no single foreign historian, or anthropologist, sociologist, traveler, missionary etc ever mentioned Oduduwa as being Ekaladerhan. It is pertinent to show now that apart from the Isekiri who were visited by the Portuguese between 1472 – 1486, the Binis were the first to be visited by the Europeans in Present day Nigeria.
The first European visited Benin by 1486 long, long before Ife. How come almost all the colonial officers favour the story that the Bini Dynasty originated from Ife or in few instances from Oyo? Could the European writers be more biased towards the Ifes they knew very little, than Benin they were frequenting much more often? From the evidence of all the reporters it is clear that the Ikaladerhan-Oduduwa story is fiction.


Perhaps there are some written records between 1472 – 1960 purporting that Ikaladerhan was Oduduwa, the world will be glad to see such records. None of the writers have even inferred in their write-ups that Oduduwa or even the founder of any of the Ife or Oyo dynasties had a Bini father.

Vorpal:


I don't believe that stupid story, however there is something of peculiar interest that led credence to that what you stated.


Ewuare was known to abolish the selection of kings and made it to be on a first son basis and reformed other things in the benin empire. I then noticed that other king ship in the yoruba States(where they Ewuare conquered at one time) still practise selection of a king among princes. But interestingly Ewuare sent the chiefs who selected kings in his domain to substitute other kingdoms he had conquered making who he wanted Prince in those places be kings.

It then makes sense that most kings in the west use the "Oba" title. Also if you look at the coronation of owo king, it is almost as exactly as the Benins. And to lend credence to the conquering of Benin empire, little wonder is it that benin republic also bears benin as a name too even though pronounced differently.

If I were yoruba, I will honestly accept Benin as the progenitors as yoruba.

However, I am ijebu, and my king says we are from Sudan, and certain links has existed to prove that. Based on language we have no ties to yoruba and we only adopted "oba* around the 18th century after which the British had shaken up Western Nigeria abit.

I honestly believe the Benins are progenitors to the yorubas.

YourNemesis:


lol, READ UP girl.

Oba in Yoruba simply means King... no other meaning. Apparently, form your explanation Oba in Benin means Shining....Hilarious.
Ogisos of bini city state were not empire builders, they were rulers of little significance until The rulership of Benin got an injection of Yoruba blood into their royalty, after which Benin became an empire.
( 7 ) . Benin first to meet
Europeans
( 8 ) . " Oba " adopted from
Benin not the other way
round as many made to
believe . There is no king
of Yoruba 's people . and
if there is , what is de
name of his title ? and how many Yoruba prominent
traditional leader /ruler carried the title Oba ? since
when? if Yoruba called king Oba doesn 't mean will
derived our king name (N 'Oba ) from them . Everyone
has a name for king in the their native language / tongue.
The Oba of Lagos is Eleko of Eko not Oba , the British
change it to Oba . the Origin of word " oba" is Benin
( 9 ) . They never conquered any territory but rather
struggle with their neighbours before and after the first
encounter with Europeans looking for slave hunting .
( 10 ) . " Edo" have no relative with the word Yoruba .
Words like Eko , Idu Ganran , Yaba , Oshodi , Osa, Eti-
Osa, idu - magbo , Idu - mota have no Yoruba meaning but
Edo
( 11 ) . Note history is subject to scientific diagnosis and
many historic writtings in the past about Benin yoruba
have been proved by archaeologies and scientist as
erroneous and false.
( 12 ) . Many Yoruba being those in the forfront of Nigeria
history writters, used in Nigeria institutions had the
benefit of making their yoruba look leading culture and
history for nigerians
( 13 ) . Yorubas all along paddling lies in Nigeria , US and
British universities . deceivng Africans with grammar
and academic titles . They confuse other external
scholars about the true realities of African history . . buy
their lies into African America book , which Benin in the
Palace have no ideal .
( 14 ) . Yoruba had and did the highest slave rading in
their togo - oyo region stretched to lagos during slave
trade. see http: // ihuanedo . ning . com/ forum/topics /
yoruba - enslavement - of- african
( 15 ) Yoruba never colonise Benin but Benin colonize
Yoruba
( 16 ) Yoruba is not in anyway related to Igbo ancestral
history
( 17 ) Yoruba not in anyway related to itsekiri history .
Their could be later migrant during the European
expliotation and commerce but not related to the itsekiri
ancestral lineage . Never mind all the title of " Olu " in the
region, its all inventions
( 18 ) Bishop Ajayi crowder and Obafemi Awolowo made
Yoruba known today as an ethnic group in NIgeria
( 19 ) How can an Empire be inside an Empire ? Many so
called yoruba territories of today never existed in the
past but invented and stillfully documented into their
borrowed history
( 20 ) Yoruba copied Benin - Edo history , twisted them
and publish as Yoruba History . Most of their books and
publications are mere opinions of the writers inside
their rooms without a singgle scientific research or a
visit to Ancient Benin for true archaeological discovery.
Covered up with self hate , jealousy and envy of the
Great Benin , bias and leftish in many of their so called
Nigerian history .
( 21 ) If cameroon was inside Nigeria today , Yoruba
would have as well say they are their ancestors. .
( 22 ) Many Yorubas in Lagos today came as migrant
workers for British companies and construction project .
that why you have alot of their fotos with whites . Britain
also use them as colonial officers .
( 23 ) Before Britain or
before the punitive
expedition of 1897,
Yoruba have no were to
be found as recognized
major ethnic group in
lagos but Edos .
( 24 ) Where is Yoruba
ancient flag or before
1897? Yoruba had no
flag but Benin Yes.
( 25 ) Their loyalty to
slave masters , British
merchant gave them the
huge presence in lagos ,
Americas and England
( 26 ) The word Yoruba has it 's roots in Yoruba. The fulani
used to call the Oyo people Yoruba . There was no really
united Yoruba nation till awolowo came with a cooked
up Oduduwa myth with the intention of uniting them
under them with advent of Egbe omo Oduduwa . yorubas
that came to the Americas were identified as lucumi
which is corrupted from olukumi.
.
( 27 ) The Ooni of Ife, the Alake of Abeokuta ( Egba ) , the
Olubadan of Ibadan , the Oba of Oshogbo , the Deji of
Akure, the Oba of Lagos, the Ugbo of Ugboland , the Owu
of Owo etc have no historica
Ife was a more advanced polity than Igodomigodo.
*Paved roads of Ife predates that of Benin
* Yoruba (Of the Ife dialect) was the previous language of the Benin court
* Ife bronze heads predates that of Benin by carbon dating, Infact Benin bronze casting was on knowledge from Ife teachers
* Ife attained the Bronze Age before 1170, (Thurstan Shaw 1977). Benin attained it during the reign of Oguola about 1400.

However, could someone coming from a far less civilized society establish a magnificent kingdom in a much more civilized polity? Archaeological evidence about the Ogiso period had not shown any magnificent civilization. From 1472 when the Portuguese explorers first reached the coast of the Benin River or the Bight of Benin, until 1960 when Nigerians became independent from colonial rule, no single foreign historian, or anthropologist, sociologist, traveler, missionary etc ever mentioned Oduduwa as being Ekaladerhan. It is pertinent to show now that apart from the Isekiri who were visited by the Portuguese between 1472 – 1486, the Binis were the first to be visited by the Europeans in Present day Nigeria.
The first European visited Benin by 1486 long, long before Ife. How come almost all the colonial officers favour the story that the Bini Dynasty originated from Ife or in few instances from Oyo? Could the European writers be more biased towards the Ifes they knew very little, than Benin they were frequenting much more often? From the evidence of all the reporters it is clear that the Ikaladerhan-Oduduwa story is fiction.


Perhaps there are some written records between 1472 – 1960 purporting that Ikaladerhan was Oduduwa, the world will be glad to see such records. None of the writers have even inferred in their write-ups that Oduduwa or even the founder of any of the Ife or Oyo dynasties had a Bini father.

ogbonti:
Ooni can be anyone from any ruling house or whatever, the Oba is always the first son of the previous Oba, call that supremacy of the lineage.. hmmm Afonjas, to be a King is not about f....king someone else's wife oooo, please respect superior tradition, my 2 kobo

Vorpal:


I don't believe that stupid story, however there is something of peculiar interest that led credence to that what you stated.


Ewuare was known to abolish the selection of kings and made it to be on a first son basis and reformed other things in the benin empire. I then noticed that other king ship in the yoruba States(where they Ewuare conquered at one time) still practise selection of a king among princes. But interestingly Ewuare sent the chiefs who selected kings in his domain to substitute other kingdoms he had conquered making who he wanted Prince in those places be kings.

It then makes sense that most kings in the west use the "Oba" title. Also if you look at the coronation of owo king, it is almost as exactly as the Benins. And to lend credence to the conquering of Benin empire, little wonder is it that benin republic also bears benin as a name too even though pronounced differently.

If I were yoruba, I will honestly accept Benin as the progenitors as yoruba.

However, I am ijebu, and my king says we are from Sudan, and certain links has existed to prove that. Based on language we have no ties to yoruba and we only adopted "oba* around the 18th century after which the British had shaken up Western Nigeria abit.

I honestly believe the Benins are progenitors to the yorubas.

Sayelabola:

Baby comot make bubu giveam another one.

KORMART:
.

( 15 ) Yoruba never colonise Benin but Benin colonize
Yoruba

2dugged:
we dey look, but my fear for now is that those emirs don't kidnap one underage girl on their way back

MrPresident1:


hahaha, no need to fear, Oba na im get all the chicks and babes, no to just order say make dem package 2 or 3 babes for Emir

2dugged:
Sorry,we don't give out underage girls,which happens to be the preference of the turban wearing people

MrPresident1:
The new Omonoba MUST go to Ile-Ife to visit and propitiate his fathers.

May the king reign forever