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Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by jibbzion(m): 5:59am On Oct 21, 2016 |
I'm pretty sure MFM can turn a wedding ceremony to a deliverance programme. 2 Likes |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by singledude(m): 6:15am On Oct 21, 2016 |
FANATICS! Christian version of those boko haram people. |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Harwoyeez(m): 6:19am On Oct 21, 2016 |
I sight u nigga....bomboclat ![]() ![]() ![]() doctorkush: |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Adebisi95(m): 6:19am On Oct 21, 2016 |
Saints are not moulded through imposed lifestlye. When the Word of God find its truth to your heart,your lifestyle reflect Jesus,not religious modes of dressing. You can be shaggy and shabby,yet your heart is as corrupt as anything. Dont be imposed,but be exposed to the true Word of God! |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Mayflowa(m): 6:32am On Oct 21, 2016 |
Greatzeus: Actually, they should be condemned in the area of medical test. They don't have that right. This is a religious body who don't pay tax. They need to trust their member without putting them to test. That is left for God to decide |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by taleetah(f): 7:14am On Oct 21, 2016 |
doctorkush:NO |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Ehimzy(m): 7:17am On Oct 21, 2016 |
Nonsense.... I'd rather rent a hall and get a minister to officiate or get married abroad.. I can understand dressing decently but this.... is crap... It's only in Nigerian churches and their style of Christianity you see this... when they all have different doctrines contradicting each other yet they say they all serve the same God Nigeria has one of the largest amounts of churches and mosques and followers of these religions in Africa... but yet remain one of the top 20 most corrupt countries in the world... 1 Like |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by donshady(m): 7:24am On Oct 21, 2016 |
After if those pastors will sit on the throne to judge us on the judgement day.. We are a going to be on the queue. ![]() |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by djwalata(m): 7:45am On Oct 21, 2016 |
Ehimzy:your analysis are quite correct but this is due to the fact u don't do according to what this type of church believes and teaches.u can only b right to complain and go against their doctrines only if it contradicts what God wants. most of us are religious but are not spiritual. there is nothing totally wrong with their highlighted doctrines.. ...... Note.... no one forces u to b their member but I bliv d better it will b if we truly do God's will which they're trying to guide us with. |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Nobody: 7:54am On Oct 21, 2016 |
Mayflowa:It's left for God to decide what? Whether somebody has Hiv and shouldn't be allowed to marry a negative person? No thank you, it's very fine that the church are doing it if not many people will deliberately infect innocent people. |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by kadree(m): 8:20am On Oct 21, 2016 |
Deeper life and Jehovah witness warming up.
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Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by apatheticme(f): 8:24am On Oct 21, 2016 |
martineinstein: . 1 Like |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by KardinalZik(m): 8:33am On Oct 21, 2016 |
This is what Jesus Christ expects of his churches!!! However, it must be extended to all church services/attendance and not weddings alone. Perhaps, then I will join the fellowship of Mountain of Fire...cos most of the churches around have been compromised. |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Adedoks(m): 8:34am On Oct 21, 2016 |
God bless MFM... This ministry has been used by God to save countless lives. Funny enough most people condemning Mfm here when In deep trouble find their way to prayer city 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by KardinalZik(m): 8:37am On Oct 21, 2016 |
apatheticme: E dey pain am wella.... Perchance those deceptive looks will be revealed without makeups, right? Am sure what you read did not include anything like: "you must fellowship with/be a member of mountain of Fire" Beauty therapist/makeup artists will be like....thus is unacceptable! Girls and hypocrisy ehn...... |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by JUBILEE2000: 8:39am On Oct 21, 2016 |
EternalBeing:We are in the same shoes my brother.No body told me of MFM, God was repeatedly speaking to my heart that i should go to Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries when my life was turned upside down by the wickedness of the wicked.I had to ask somebody if she knew any church by that name, then i was directed to the church first in their branch in Onitsha before relocating to Lagos and started worshiping at the HQTs. 10 years of stagnation and joblessness was broken in this church by God through the ministration of Dr. D. K Olukoya. Today i have one of the best jobs in one of the multinational oil and gas companies to the Glory of God!!! I cannot thank God enough for His grace upon the life of the G.O 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by yetseyi(f): 8:54am On Oct 21, 2016 |
I didn't expect anything less. ![]() ![]() ![]() The dress code here is even the standard for members so I don't expect the wedding to be different. Like Dr Olukoya always says if you can't keep to the way things are done in MFM you can look for another church wherr those things are accepted. No wahala. You like MFM prayers and sermons but you don't want to keep to their doctrine. Holiness within and without. I wonder why people complain about some church doctrines when its not against the Bible. If its not biblically wrong why the hullabo. Thank God for the church, a lot of destinies have been repositioned for greatness there. 1 Like |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by apatheticme(f): 9:01am On Oct 21, 2016 |
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Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Opatoranking(m): 9:05am On Oct 21, 2016 |
Category1:IT SHOWS HOW YOUR THINKING FACULTY IS |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by apatheticme(f): 9:10am On Oct 21, 2016 |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Diiverexii(f): 9:16am On Oct 21, 2016 |
proudly MFM!!! I rep my church |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by PrinxArthur1(m): 9:25am On Oct 21, 2016 |
SAINTHUD:. 1 Timothy 2:9-10 ESV / 61 helpful votes Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. 1 Like |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Beamborla(f): 9:26am On Oct 21, 2016 |
Diiverexii:I thought it should 'proudly christian' 'I rep Christ' I thought wrong. 1 Like |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by SAINTHUD(m): 10:58am On Oct 21, 2016 |
PrinxArthur1:. The question of whether a Christian woman can wear jewellery or make-up arises from two scriptures – one written by Paul, the other by Peter. They are 1 Timothy 2:9-10 and 1 Peter 3:3-5. 1 Timothy 2:9-10: “In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shame facedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls or costly array; but which becometh women professing godliness with good works.” 1 Peter 3:3-5: “Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting of the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on apparel; but let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection to their own husbands.” Since the two passages were written by two different authors to two different audiences, we need to examine them separately. Though it’s obvious make-up was not even mentioned in either of the two passages. One then wonders how it became an issue. That can only be attributed to cultural parochialism. 1 Timothy 2 is ACTUALLY about prayer, not fashion concerns. The chapter starts with admonition on prayer – “The first thing I want you to do is pray.” And it continues with admonition on prayer. As at the time Paul wrote that letter, Christianity had not become a global phenomenon, and the principal message of salvation was not well known – that Jesus gave his life to purchase freedom from sin for everyone. “Eventually the news was going to get out,” Paul wrote. In fact, he says he was specially appointed to get the message to the rest of the world. That’s because God wants EVERYONE saved. (1 Timothy 2:6) But to get the job done will require prayer. “Since prayer is at the bottom of all this, what I want mostly is for men to pray…” (1 Timothy 2:8-10 MSG) But there was one problem hindering PRAYER effectiveness in the church at Ephesus and that was PRIDE. The men were prideful. They had serious anger management issues. They were temperamental. And the women were vain. That is why Paul wrote as follows: “Since prayer is at the bottom of all this, what I want is for men to pray – not shaking angry fists at enemies but raising holy hands to God. And I want women to get in there with the men IN HUMILITY before God, not pimping before a mirror or chasing latest fashions but doing something beautiful for God and becoming beautiful doing it.” (1 Timothy 2:8-10 MSG) So the issue wasn’t fashion or jewellery AT ALL! It was pride – prideful anger, prideful vanity. It’s amazing how we can ignore the main subject of an epistle to focus on pedantry. All Paul was doing was telling the women to set their priorities straight, telling them not to chase fashion trends, but to do something beautiful for God. That’s what the passage is about. Text without context creates red herrings. Always read the context of Bible passages. Scriptures are not textual orphans. Paul wrote a letter. You can’t just pick a phrase in a letter and quote it out of context. You won’t like someone taking a phrase in your letter out of context. Don’t do it to Paul. —– Let’s look at the second passage, the one written by Peter – 1 Peter 3:3-5. Again, this passage is about Christian duties, not fashion. 1 Peter 3:1 begins with this phrase: “Likewise, ye wives…” That already tells us to go back to see what gave rise to that statement. Nobody begins a statement with “Likewise…” “Likewise” suggests that something had been said before. And so we need to back off into the preceding chapter, 1 Peter 2 to see what had been said before. The thought stream actually began in 1 Peter 2:18. From that verse Peter begins to teach about duties and responsibilities for various classes of Christians. He talks to Christian slaves first. (Historic relativism comes into play here. Modern history abhors slavery but slavery was an economic system of the 1 century). Peter told the Christian slaves to be good servants to their masters, be they good or bad masters. Then, he continues his discourse in Chapter 3, telling wives they also ought to be good wives to their husbands. Some of the Christian women were married to blokes who didn’t like going to church and didn’t care much about God’s word. Peter tells these women the way to woo their husbands to Christ is through “holy beauty.” Let’s look at the entire passage: “The same goes for you wives: Be good wives to your husbands, responsive to their needs. There are husbands who, indifferent as they are to any words about God, will be captivated by your holy beauty. What matters is not your outer appearance – the styling of your hair, the jewellery you wear, the cut of your clothes – but your inner disposition. Cultivate inner beauty, the gentle, gracious kind that God delights in. The holy women of old were beautiful before God that way, and were good, loyal wives to their husbands. Sarah, for instance taking care of Abraham, would address him as, “My dear husband.” (1 Peter 3:1-6) And then he goes on to talk to the men about how to be good husbands. So the thrust of his writing was RESPONSIBILITY – how to be a good Christian: a good Christian slave, a good Christian wife, a good Christian husband. The focus of this passage is NOT make-up or jewellery. Make-up is not even mentioned! If at all, Peter acknowledged the Christian women wore stylish hair, had fine jewellery and a fantastic sense of fashion; which is why he told them that in this business of winning an unbelieving husband to Christ, designer clothes are not the evangelism materials. It’s “inner beauty” – character, loyalty, respect and goodness. The Christian women obviously had beautiful clothes, fine jewellery and nice hairstyles. Or Peter wouldn’t have specified those items: “What matters is not your outer appearance – the styling of your hair, the jewellery you wear, the cut of your clothes…” The women had all these! So how did we arrive at the fact that Christianity bans jewellery and make-up? It’s from our ideological disposition to the word of God, as well as our penchant for taking scriptures out of context. You might also add quaint wrestling with the 17 century English called the King James Bible. This is how the King James renders the passage: “Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting of hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel…” And now you can see the source of the trouble. One of the rules of interpretation of scriptures is the rule of absurdity. For example when Jesus says if your right hand offends you, cut it off, the rule of absurdity lets us know he wasn’t trying to create righteous amputees. That it was a figure of speech. So let’s apply the rule of absurdity to this passage. If we insist that this passage bans braids and jewellery, then we must also insist that the passage bans the wearing of clothes too! After all, the King James rendering talks about “the adorning of plaiting of hair, and of wearing of gold…OR PUTTING ON OF APPRAEL.” We can’t pick plaiting of hair and wearing of gold, and ignore adorning of apparel. It’s always good to read a modern translation of the Bible to AT LEAST get a sense of what a passage is saying. What the passage is simply saying is, don’t let these things determine your beauty. Let character do. This passage CANNOT in anyway be used as the basis for the proscription of jewellery or braids. That’s scriptural malpractice. Of course there are ridiculous arguments against the use of jewellery by Christians. Spurious arguments like, “Because heaven is paved with gold I will not wear tar,” can make one wonder about faculty. Didn’t these people spend currencies denominated by the gold standard? Why didn’t they refuse to spend monetary tar! Gold to God is nothing but an item on the Periodic Table, a mere chemical equation. Then there is the argument Christians shouldn’t wear jewellery and gold because the Israelites donated gold towards the making of the golden calf idol at Mount Sinai. Only they forgot to mention they also gave gold towards the building of the sanctuary for God to dwell in. And that God specifically asked for offering of gold, silver and bronze. (Exodus 25:1- ![]() ridiculous some insist anytime gold is mentioned in scriptures, there’s always a problem! At which one needs to ask what the problem with Solomon’s temple was. If at all God descended mightily at the consecration of the temple. (1 Kings 8:11) Then there are admonitions against make-up based on the fact that Jezebel “painted her eyelids and fixed her hair,” and so no child of God should “paint her eyes”. But that passage (2 Kings 9:30) also says that Jezebel looked out of the window. Should we then stop looking out of windows because Jezebel did so? If Jezebel wore perfume, which she most likely did, should all Christians stop wearing perfume? All these are ideological positions looking for justification from scriptures and they’re untenable. Truth is, God never banned jewellery and makeup for Christian women. Our legalistic religiosity banned them. And to be honest, these are not even issues for the 21 century Church. There are more important stuff to contemplate than suppositious pedantic regulatory inanition. Please get out of religiousity and be a christian. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Ehimzy(m): 11:43am On Oct 21, 2016 |
SAINTHUD: God bless you sir, Like as if it's the jewelry you wear that will be used to judge you and not the works of your heart and mind 2 Likes |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Aboki4inside(m): 12:07pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
One thing that displeases me the most is that nairaland as well as other social networking platforms has just become a hub of useless gossips. What's our business with MFM marriage conditions? I for one know that anything associated with the ministry especially on critical issues such as marriage is no joke. It's meant for their members alone, even still the members that will opt to marry there. My advice– stop posting unnecessary information online, stop overloading online servers with junk. How will MFM, RCCGs marriage condition list affect your salvation? Hehe.. permission to divert Someone was saying something about gold, make up, ignorance and stuff. From reading that, it's clear most of us don't really understand what we read in the Bible. Fine, God walks on gold. In fact to God, gold is nothing more than a construction material. Most people don't even think, you are wearing what is used to construct roads in heaven and the Bible calls you a god! The issue of jewelry has been highlighted several, if you feel it's too much of a cross, leave it! Then again about makeup..lol. You claim to be designed in the image of an immensely beautiful God, what then are u making up? It will do us a great deal of good, if we open our Bibles and start connecting some dots. Understand the God you are serving, don't paint a cluttered image of him in your mind. |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by vislabraye(m): 12:25pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
kevoh: I bow oh ! What's even wrong with using wet lips as a lady ? Anyway, it's not compulsory to worship or marry there. I respect their tradition. If they feel that's the standard they Want to keep, good luck to them. |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by vislabraye(m): 12:38pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
Aboki4inside: I'm more concerned with your 2nd paragraph. If I ask you what makeup is you might say eye pencil, lip gloss or lipstick, eye shadow etc. Men dont use any of these but does it mean men don't makeup ? If you rub cream on your face or comb your hair, it is makeup. Some of you will say women should not plait their hair but it's okay to use N30 thread to braid your hair. Is it not still braiding. I know MFM is an anointed church, no question about it. I do listen to their messages from time to time. But one thing I know 8s that everyone has liberty to worship where he/she chooses. |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Mayflowa(m): 12:41pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
fellis: :oCarrying out an HIV test for anyone is a crime. You don't ask for it for no reason except the person volunteer to do it in which case, the person would go through some medical counselling first. HIV is not conclusive on one round. You have to redo it on an interval of 6 month. You need to be careful.to pronounce anyone HIV positive. You know I once had a discussion with a US doctor and he told me HIV test is very expensive. Dat it goes for at 150,000 narrative because of the test equipment used. That shows the free kit in Africa is questionable. Lastly, I am believe the reason for church test is for pregnancy to make sure no premarital sex was done. Sadly, couple can still engage in it without getting pregnant or wimple opt for abortion. That could lead to forever barrenness. So I repeat, they have no right to ask for the medical health o those choosing to.marry themselves. As a church, they should encourage people to go for test on their own before marriage. Choice is the key word! 1 Like |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Nobody: 1:13pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
Mayflowa:It's OK. But I still think they should enforce the test on intending couples. If they stop at encouraging the intending couples you would find that many people will go into private 'arrangements' with their family doctors to produce fake results that say they are negative when they are actually positive. It's better the church doctor runs it cos he is more likely to be unbiased. By the way how the hell is HIV test 150000?!? Hian Abeg e no cost like dat na lie. |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Mayflowa(m): 1:21pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
fellis: Actually I made a mistake because I did not proof read my writeup. It costs N1.5million Nair. About $3000. Ask anyone in US |
Re: Conditions For Marriage In Mountain Of Fire Ministries (pics) by Nobody: 1:32pm On Oct 21, 2016 |
Mayflowa:Healthcare in the USA is very expensive, that's probably the amount they charge in the USA to conduct a comprehensive hiv test and you can't compare it to Healthcare in Nigeria that is relatively far cheaper. Do you know even to connect an IV drip in US hospitals costs about 500 to 700dollars when in Nigeria the same thing costs about 1dolllar or 500naira only? ![]() The fact that it's expensive over there does not mean that's how it is all over the world. We can and we do conduct accurate Hiv tests for far less than 1.5million Naira in Nigeria. |
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