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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:18pm On Oct 22, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


When once a player fails, he quietly drops the player from the team and stops talking to the player. It is more like a one chance thing. He wants it natural.
oh. Ok. Sounds like a bracket Aguero would be in, he has a god-like status in City

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:19pm On Oct 22, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


You spoilt a fantastic post with that honest with the truth comment. At least you know the comment you made, added salt to injury. After such heated debate quoting him with such comment was hurtful.

I wanted to say something but I don't think it is the right time to do so else I would have elaborated what is in my mind.

However, I already said I didn't see the moniker before posting.

My bad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:22pm On Oct 22, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Honestly, I'm just looking at Pep..... Lemme see what he's really up to as regards the striker role.

Does he trust Aguero? Will he play a Nacho ahead of Aguero?? *yikes* never knew I will ever ask if pep will ever consider such (dropping kun for kelechi). #yikes... I don't know #StillObserving

The next few games will decide. Nacho needs to stay on his toes. The competition is high. Gabriel Jesus will soon come in too. Sane looks dangerous and De Bruyne can fill the attack role.

Hard work brought Iheanacho this far. He needs to keep at it. Adjust to what Guardiola wants. If possible, Nacho needs to study Suarez games to get the movements Guardiola wants.

I believe that if Nacho gets what Guardiola wants, he will become better. Messi excelled because he took in every lesson Guardiola handed to him. Iheanacho will get better soaking in the lessons.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:28pm On Oct 22, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Versatility.


I want full explanation of all round play or versatility.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:34pm On Oct 22, 2016
bigblangston:
I will have to agree with you on this one. But that "idiocy" part is highly exasperating on a football thread. Forgiveness stop inciting the guy. Play the part of an "elder"stateman. Thanks safari for calling me to order with your revealing post

Really, I never intended to incite him. It was a mistake.

Shalom.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:38pm On Oct 22, 2016
forgiveness:



I want full explanation of all round play or versatility.

There are strikers who pass accurately, cross, drops deep and play fluidly. Tidy with tactical instructions. High conversion rate.

When you put their all round play, they are top notch. When it comes to playing up front, there are times some players excel in some aspects, and are weak in some.

Look at Bony and Iheanacho. Iheanacho can not hold up play like Bony. Bony's ball control is top notch but is all round play compared to Iheanacho is poor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:39pm On Oct 22, 2016
forgiveness:


I wanted to say something but I don't think it is the right time to do so else I would have elaborated what is in my mind.

However, I already said I didn't see the moniker before posting.

My bad.

Hence you did not mean to make him feel bad, it is okay and you can put it behind you
.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:40pm On Oct 22, 2016
I think Ribery at Bayern complained about the "bolded"

Anyway.... Nacho is a youngster not a big-name player like Aguero at City. I believe Nacho will get better under Pep and I believe Pep will continue to take his time with Nacho.

I'm quickly reminded of how Pep handled Joshua Kimmich at Bayern. After the Bayern-dortmund game of last season which finished goalless, pep had an on-field serious tactical talk with Kimmich. He stayed on Kimmich for about 2mins or so, gesticulating strongly and telling him what he should do more.

After that game, Pep kept on playing Kimmich but mostly as a central defender as he needed Kimmich's defensive side mixed with his fine ball-playing abilities.

Kimmich even said in an interview that in training sessions, Pep will have the patience to go over certain tactical movements and positionings with him again and again until he (kimmich) was perfected according to Pep's wants.


Fact is Pep is too demanding... Lawd! He truly is.... smiley

Ribery even said he talks too much and is too detailed about a "simple" game as football... Loooollllll (that's by the way... Hahahahaha)

Anyway, Bottomline is... I hope Pep shows the same kinda patience with Nacho and I hope also that Nacho picks up fast coz I see a super goals-monster and worldclass forward in the alien kid that hasn't been awakened just yet.


TheGoodJoe:


When once a player fails, he quietly drops the player from the team and stops talking to the player. It is more like a one chance thing. He wants it natural.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:40pm On Oct 22, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
.

There are strikers who pass accurately, cross, drops deep and play fluidly. Tidy with tactical instructions. High conversion rate.

When you put their all round play, they are top notch. When it comes to playing up front, there are times some players excel in some aspects, and are weak in some.

Look at Bony and Iheanacho. Iheanacho can not hold up play like Bony. Bony's ball control is top notch but is all round play compared to Iheanacho is poor.[/color]

Is the @bolded your definition of all round play?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:44pm On Oct 22, 2016
forgiveness:


Is the @bolded your definition of all round play?

I already gave you a term. Versatility. All round play when you consider the other things he does.

If you understand it better, please explain it to me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:45pm On Oct 22, 2016
forgiveness:


Is the @bolded your definition of all round play?

Or you do not understand the meaning of versatile?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:51pm On Oct 22, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
I think Ribery at Bayern complained about the "bolded"

Anyway.... Nacho is a youngster not a big-name player like Aguero at City. I believe Nacho will get better under Pep and I believe Pep will continue to take his time with Nacho.

I'm quickly reminded of how Pep handled Joshua Kimmich at Bayern. After the Bayern-dortmund game of last season which finished goalless, pep had an on-field serious tactical talk with Kimmich. He stayed on Kimmich for about 2mins or so, gesticulating strongly and telling him what he should do more.

After that game, Pep kept on playing Kimmich but mostly as a central defender as he needed Kimmich's defensive side mixed with his fine ball-playing abilities.

Kimmich even said in an interview that in training sessions, Pep will have the patience to go over certain tactical movements and positionings with him again and again until he (kimmich) was perfected according to Pep's wants.


Fact is Pep is too demanding... Lawd! He truly is.... smiley

Ribery even said he talks too much and is too detailed about a "simple" game as football... Loooollllll (that's by the way... Hahahahaha)

Anyway, Bottomline is... I hope Pep shows the same kinda patience with Nacho and I hope also that Nacho picks up fast coz I see a super goals-monster and worldclass forward in the alien kid that hasn't been awakened just yet.



Wow. Nice addition.

Guardiola has a lot to teach. What he wants is a player trying to understand him and trying to do what he says until he gets it.

That is why I called for Patience with Nacho.

With the brilliant point of Kimmich you highlighted shows this. When a player is ready to listen and learn, Guardiola Keeps working on the player.

I read some nights, Guardiola spent time with Messi going over Mess games and pointing out mistakes.

If Nacho is ready to learn, I can guarantee a Monstrous attacker will come out of all these.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:53pm On Oct 22, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I already gave you a term. Versatility. All round play when you consider the other things he does.

If you understand it better, please explain it to me.

I just wanted to get a clearer picture of what you meant.

If that is the case then what do you think about the article below?

He's the new...
Solanke recently said that he counts Fernando Torres, Didier Drogba and Diego Costa among his idols.

At just under six feet tall, Solanke isn't exactly in the Drogba mould. However, his linkup play with his back to goal is reminiscent of the Ivorian's. His direct running has all the hallmarks of Torres in his Liverpool days.

A clinical finisher, Solanke is predominatly left-footed but appears equally adept with his right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:55pm On Oct 22, 2016
If I say I trust Guardiola with Nacho I dey lie.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:55pm On Oct 22, 2016
Ranieri: Musa Is Now Ready For Premier
League




Leicester City manager Claudio Ranieri has
backed Nigeria forward Ahmed Musa to score
regularly in the Premier League as the Italian
believes the Super Eagles star is now used to the tempo.


Musa scored his first competitive goal on
Saturday as Leicester defeated Crystal Palace 3-1, leaving his manager a happy man.


"I feel good," Ranieri said in his post-match
interview.

"For the first 20 minutes I felt not so good but
after that we started to play our pressing, fast
football against a very good team

"That was our best performance so far this
season. It was the shape and model of last season and we concentrated on doing our job.

We knew our weaknesses but also strengths.

"I know what Shinji Okazaki can do. He is a
worker and he links well with the midfield.

"Ahmed Musa is slowly, slowly understanding the Premier League tempo and he is now ready.

"This was not a game for Jamie Vardy just like last game was not a game for Riyad Mahrez. I want to rotate my players and now everybody is ready to fight for their place on the pitch.


"I said I would share my birthday cake in the
dressing room if I got a clean sheet… They clearly don't want a piece!"




Source: http://www.completesportsnigeria.com/ranieri-musa-now-ready-premier-league/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 7:08pm On Oct 22, 2016
forgiveness:



I want full explanation of all round play or versatility.

Without any doubt, I smell and knw you are a lawyer, are u still a student lawyer or been called to bar?

Why do u like to prolong things? Why do u like to put ur profession philosophy into this football forum when there's not a judge to say the final verdict smiley what do u want to knw more about the versatility of the player? Bro Na you oo smiley I no get mind take argue with u.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:09pm On Oct 22, 2016
forgiveness:


I just wanted to get a clearer picture of what you meant.

If that is the case then what do you think about the article below?

He's the new...
Solanke recently said that he counts Fernando Torres, Didier Drogba and Diego Costa among his idols.

At just under six feet tall, Solanke isn't exactly in the Drogba mould. However, his linkup play with his back to goal is reminiscent of the Ivorian's. His direct running has all the hallmarks of Torres in his Liverpool days.

A clinical finisher, Solanke is predominatly left-footed but appears equally adept with his right.

The article shows he has good footballing attributes but when we now talk of his all round play, we need to tick his ranking in different areas.

In that article, they pointed his link-up play, his comfort in finishing in both feet, his finishing and his running at defence.

Yet, I can say these of a young Welbeck or a young Frazier Campbell. However, still feel disappointed by their all round play.

So the article can say he does these but we need to watch and judge the quality of these.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:16pm On Oct 22, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Ranieri: Musa Is Now Ready For Premier
League




Leicester City manager Claudio Ranieri has
backed Nigeria forward Ahmed Musa to score
regularly in the Premier League as the Italian
believes the Super Eagles star is now used to the tempo.


Musa scored his first competitive goal on
Saturday as Leicester defeated Crystal Palace 3-1, leaving his manager a happy man.


"I feel good," Ranieri said in his post-match
interview.

"For the first 20 minutes I felt not so good but
after that we started to play our pressing, fast
football against a very good team

"That was our best performance so far this
season. It was the shape and model of last season and we concentrated on doing our job.

We knew our weaknesses but also strengths.

"I know what Shinji Okazaki can do. He is a
worker and he links well with the midfield.

"Ahmed Musa is slowly, slowly understanding the Premier League tempo and he is now ready.

"This was not a game for Jamie Vardy just like last game was not a game for Riyad Mahrez. I want to rotate my players and now everybody is ready to fight for their place on the pitch.


"I said I would share my birthday cake in the
dressing room if I got a clean sheet… They clearly don't want a piece!"




Source: http://www.completesportsnigeria.com/ranieri-musa-now-ready-premier-league/

Chai. This coach is stingy. He wants to eat a whole cake alone.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:25pm On Oct 22, 2016
lakesidepapa:


Without any doubt, I smell and knw you are a lawyer, are u still a student lawyer or been called to bar?

Why do u like to prolong things? Why do u like to put ur profession philosophy into this football forum when there's not a judge to say the final verdict smiley what do u want to knw more about the versatility of the player? Bro Na you oo smiley I no get mind take argue with u.

It is the family's tradition but I opted out just 4 weeks ago to take it up the.... .


So, I am not. grin

Na naija we dey. I just wanted to be sure of what he is saying and to give a perfect answer.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 7:31pm On Oct 22, 2016
forgiveness:


It is the family's tradition but I opted out just 4 weeks ago to take it up the.... .


So, I am not. grin

Na naija we dey. I just wanted to be sure of he is saying and to give a perfect answer.

Yes we gather dey naija, u already had the perfect answer. That's all.! It cool thou, it keeps the thread going.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:51pm On Oct 22, 2016
safarigirl:
what is this big personality bracket you speak of?

A known player at a club, popular with the fans. Yaya, Nasri and Hart come to mind.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jieta: 8:07pm On Oct 22, 2016
lakesidepapa:


Without any doubt, I smell and knw you are a lawyer, are u still a student lawyer or been called to bar?

Why do u like to prolong things? Why do u like to put ur profession philosophy into this football forum when there's not a judge to say the final verdict smiley what do u want to knw more about the versatility of the player? Bro Na you oo smiley I no get mind take argue with u.
lol, no run come argue.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 8:28pm On Oct 22, 2016
jieta:
lol, no run come argue.
I tell u.! It's good o, it makes this thread so lively and we love this way smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:38pm On Oct 22, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I doubt. I suspect (personal opinion) Aguero misbehaved recently. Maybe partying late at night or tactical instructions. I do not know.

With De Bruyne up front, we saw so much movement like you get when Neymar, Suarez and Messi play. So there is also the movement problem.

I do not know if it is just the movement issue, lifestyle issue or both. Aguero on the bench in two games is unheard of.

We will judge from the next game. If Guardiola returns to normalcy and starts Aguero with Iheanacho coming in as a Sub, then we know the problem is not that serious.

However, the final verdict is the next Barca game.
if aguero is not in his plans Den there are bih clubs waiting 2 sign him nxt transfet window dont know about nacho I wish he can play in a Team like Dortmund really good place for young talents
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 8:45pm On Oct 22, 2016
safarigirl:
the last time we beat a team by 3 goals was actually in 2013 under Keshi, that was the AFCON semis and I believe Mali was the unfortunate recipient of a 4-1 trashing



tnx. under keshi we also had a 6-1 scoreline
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:03pm On Oct 22, 2016
forgiveness:
If I say I trust Guardiola with Nacho I dey lie.

same here I have dat feeling buh lets See 2moro starting lineup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:07pm On Oct 22, 2016
Certitude:

tnx. under keshi we also had a 6-1 scoreline

Against a team that we should have beaten by more and we also handed them their first ever goal at that stage.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:45pm On Oct 22, 2016
IyanuFanoro:
if aguero is not in his plans Den there are bih clubs waiting 2 sign him nxt transfet window dont know about nacho I wish he can play in a Team like Dortmund really good place for young talents

It is about principles than talents. The Barcelona players abide to these principles and they succeeded for over a decade.

Definitely those dropped can make it in other clubs but Barca execs run City. They want the principles at the Etihad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 10:03pm On Oct 22, 2016
tbaba1234:


Against a team that we should have beaten by more and we also handed them their first ever goal at that stage.
wasn't tahiti. it was an afcon qualifier.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by justiz5(m): 10:14pm On Oct 22, 2016
safarigirl:
why don't you go tell your mentor that?

It takes two to tango, there would be no tantrums if he wasn't stinking up the place with silly arguments.

He has managed to rile up more than half this thread, and you want to attack someone else for having his time, but you conveniently ignore his annoying ways. I've never seen you call out forgiveness, but once someone pounces on him, you jump out like a sidekick and attack. Where is your reasoning when he's starting trouble? A true friend does not wait for an opponent to throw a retaliatory hit before pulling his friend from a fight.

If you want to criticise, criticise both parties, or hold your criticism

TheSuperNerd, you need to learn to close your eyes to certain posts, no be everybody you go reply, haba! Learn to ignore. If you know how certain people get, why allow them get to you?

Both of you are acting like 6-year olds, it's embarrassing. Somebody must be mature, I used to think you were the mature one, so, why are you replying everything and stinking up the thread?







Who else has noticed the maturity in Safarigirl's utterances these days? gringrin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:09pm On Oct 22, 2016
lakesidepapa:


Yes we gather dey naija, u already had the perfect answer. That's all.! It cool thou, it keeps the thread going.
.

Ok na! No worries.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:13pm On Oct 22, 2016
IyanuFanoro:
same here I have dat feeling buh lets See 2moro starting lineup

I think say na only me.

I just don't want to say anything yet until after middle of the season.

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