slumcat:
Warning:
Don't be fooled guys. My prediction is that you will be directed to a 'partner' who will ask you to buy an e-product or ask you to pay before you're taught.
Don't pay nothing!.
Google and you'll find lots of information on CPA for free!.

Fair enough. You're absolutely right about being cautious. And yes, I offer those people who are getting in touch with me right now asking for mentoring (more than 10 people already) to contact a friend and partner of mine who introduced me to internet marketing, and who's been kind enough to accept and help me out. The reason being that I'm moving back from Argentina to Australia next month to start working offline in a completely different business (import-export).(That's the main reason I joined this forum in the first place, btw.) Sorry, I just don't have enough time to mentor anyone myself right now. I have too many things going on in my life these days. My friend, however, is the nicest, most honest guy I know and he'll be taking care of business for the next few months till I see how everything develops for me in Melbourne.

Having said that, I'll tell you all this:

- I do not sell an ebook, a course or anything of the sort. Neither does my friend. We don't use any sort of covert tactics.

- You're absolutely right about the fact that there's a wealth of information out there already (also lots of garbage, which is not that easy to distinguish from the good stuff when you're just starting out, but I digress...). I have said so myself in this very thread referring to the Warriors forum. In fact, I specifically adviced anyone against buying anything. I will repeat this again, this time referring to myself and my partner: DO NOT buy any ebook or course from us. It wouldn't be wise right now and I'll never ask you to. Now, know that you WILL need to invest into any business you decide to start at some point, but it won't be any ebook I'm selling, that's for sure.

- I've shared already in this forum enough info for anyone to get started (check my other posts).

- Also, as I said from the very beginning: Neither I nor my partner are into CPA right now. In fact ,I've never done it myself (he did, though, a few years back). We do affiliate marketing mainly and resell certain services to a few customers in the US and Europe, but that's it. We are in touch, however, with people who do this all the time; that's where the info comes from. By the way, you need to understand this: CPA is just a means to monetize traffic which doesn't requiere a product or service to be bought in order for the marketer to make a profit. True that there are a few things that are particular to this process, but the principles of marketing remain the same .In fact, it's not rare to offer customers both affiliate products and CPA offers at different times or even at different stages of the same funnel.

- Finally, the only reason I contribute to the forum and asked my friend to mentor anyone is to give back a bit, since this is my area of expertise and I remember what it was like not so long ago. (Sorry to blow my own horn here, but posts like THESE are part of the wealth of information freely available on the internet right now). Never tried to scam anyone .Never asked anyone for money or a mail. We just thought it would be productive for all of us to learn from each other and eventually cooperate amongst ourselves. The best professional relationships I've developed during all these years have started at forums. That's partly what forums are all about. Partners are MUCH more beneficial to anyone, both personally and financially, than customers. The same goes for being honest instead of trying to make a quick buck scamming people.

Anyways, sorry for the long post. And don't get me wrong, it's important that warnings and advice like slumcat's and opemite's are posted in this forum. I see there's lots of stuff going on here that wouldn't fly in other places. I'll just have to see the best way to contribute. Sorry if I offended anyone or broke any rules.

Lol, my gee,, $100 a day is too small with CPA.. trust..

Make I no even talk..
Goodluck to you

ExplicitContent:
Lol, my gee,, $100 a day is too small with CPA.. trust..

Make I no even talk..
Goodluck to you

It appears u earn more with CPA. I'm currently registered on adworkmedia but yet to make a single kobo. Please can u assist or provide any guide? Thanks

Bro@jameskenneth, I am interested and have sent you a PM . Please reply!

Cribking1:
Bro@jameskenneth, I am interested and have sent you a PM . Please reply!

Sorry, buddy. And sorry to everyone who tried to contact me in the last 24 hs. I couldn't post all day yesterday. Never new what the problem was, really. Had my hands full trying to figure this one out and solving a few problems at work.

Anyways, I just replied the mail.

pman07:
Very simple to make but time demanding

I definitely agree up to a certain point.

If you take this as a business you want to make a living from and you're somewhat ambitious then yes, it does take time. Even if you follow some sort of passive income model, circumstances change from time to time, competitors appear or change marketing strategies, new opportunities come up, customers have questions/complaints, servers go down, etc. Sure, you can have virtual assistants to help you out or even run your own office locally (I've kind of done both, sort of) but then there's a whole bunch of new stuff to take into account: finding reliable assistants (particularly at the beginning), taking care of running costs, etc

However, if you find a level of income you feel comfortable with and head towards more of a passive income model, then you do have the chance to have much more free time than in most other businesses/jobs. Also, you usually have the opportunity to take days off according to your convinience, choose your working hours, etc

Now, I'm not judging either way to look at it. I'd just suggest you know what you're doing and adjust your expectations/goals to the level of dedication you're putting into it.

ExplicitContent:
Lol, my gee,, $100 a day is too small with CPA.. trust..

Make I no even talk..
Goodluck to you

question is do you? I am not saying it is not possible and yeah. DO YOU MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY? I am not talking about someone who read about it someone BUT one who practices it as well as a major income. I am not asking because I am new to online money making.

I am asking because I have a VERY IMPORTANT Piece of Puzzle question to ask.

So if your answer is yes, here I my question:

Do CPA companies allow you to drive traffic from paid ads to the offers directly to the offer pages, use redirect or link cloaking without penalizing you?

My interest is pay per lead in a certain niche, as well as free trials offer ( This should explain to you that I know something about it) The guy that even introduce CPA to Nigeria is Kenneth Ifeanyi but he was one of those early information marketing scammers and so he wasn't giving people the needed information cos he wasn't even practising what he preaches in the first place. This was in 2009.

JamesKenneth, thanks for the info shared so far. Please, can you help me answer the above?

remedick:
question is do you? I am not saying it is not possible and yeah. DO YOU MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY? I am not talking about someone who read about it someone BUT one who practices it as well as a major income. I am not asking because I am new to online money making.

I am asking because I have a VERY IMPORTANT Piece of Puzzle question to ask.

So if your answer is yes, here I my question:

Do CPA companies allow you to drive traffic from paid ads to the offers directly to the offer pages, use redirect or link cloaking without penalizing you?

My interest is pay per lead in a certain niche, as well as free trials offer ( This should explain to you that I know something about it) The guy that even introduce CPA to Nigeria is Kenneth Ifeanyi but he was one of those early information marketing scammers and so he wasn't giving people the needed information cos he wasn't even practising what he preaches in the first place. This was in 2009.

JamesKenneth, thanks for the info shared so far. Please, can you help me answer the above?

Hi there,

Like I said before, I'm not doing CPA right now, so please don't take my words as the Bible, ok? I'll try however to answer your question based on what I do know.

First of all, if you're going the whitehat route - and I hope you are - you should be asking this question to your affiliate manager. Contrary to popular opinion, he should become your best friend. If there's something you believe you should be hiding from him, then just don't do it (my opinion, of course). It's not ethical and it's not worth it in the long run, either. If you have a good AM, your life becomes much simpler and your efforts more profitable. Do trust me on this one.

Also, CPA companies come in the most diverse shapes and colors. Policies vary from one to the other. There are those who play by the book and then there are others which are ok with the darker shades of grey, if you know what I mean. In fact, some of them actually get their offers from bigger companies; that's why affiliates' compensation is lower (they act as the middle man). Once again, be careful when you choose your CPA company and check with your AM before trying sth. funny.

And then, "paid ads" stands for a whole universe of posibilities, ranging from PPC at Google, Bing or sth smaller like 7search, to Facebook ads, PPV, display, Youtube ads, etc. Many different policies and rules to consider in each case, my friend.

Having said that, I can tell you this:

Direct linking to an offer is not sth that will get you penalized unless you're doing it for an offer which doesn't allow it (every offer allows a certain type of traffic, geo targeting, etc); more likely, it could get your account at certain traffic sources (Adwords, Bing, Facebook, Buysellads) penalized or at least your campaign rejected at some point. The important things to consider here are these:

- Places like Adwords, Bing ads or Facebook ads don't want you to direct link to your offers (PPV is a whole different ballgame)

- In any case, direct linking is (in my humble opinion, and from what I've heard from friends doing it) not as profitable anymore, particularly in certain niches and markets with more competition. You should treat CPA offers as we do with affiliate offers: Build a landing page with quality info and build your list right there. Then you'll have the chance to promote CPA offers - or anything else - to your list plenty of times. Also, once someone's subscribed to your list, you can re-direct right there to a CPA offer of choice (preferably a simple email submit) instead of using a traditional thank you page. This way you can pay for your own advertising and building a list becomes free or at least cheaper.

Now, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by redirecting to an offer. If you mean simply to add a landing page as an intermediary, then I answered your question above. If you mean using a redirect on your own domain or someone else's (, for instance), I guess it shouldn't be a problem (depending, however on the domain you use and the offer you select; sometimes, companies are rather picky). In fact, if I remember correctly, Peerfly for instance has added custom traffic redirects to deal with the very problem I mentioned before (not being able to include peerfly links, for example, in Facebook ads). This way, you'd be using a domain of your own to redirect and track traffic by simply updating your A Records, instead of using a meta refresh.

Now, cloaking is sth. else. Yes, you can get penalized for doing this, and rightfully so more often than not. There are a few cases were its use could be legit (for geo targeting or defending yourself against certain unscrupulous activities, I guess), but then I would definitely check with my AM before doing this. Besides, beware that to my knowledge every cloaking device leaks at least a bit.

Anyways, that's pretty much what I know. Nonetheless, I advice you once more to double check. Most importantly, check with your guy at your CPA company of choice. That's perhaps the most important piece of advice I can give you.

All the best

JamesKenneth:


Hi there,

Like I said before, I'm not doing CPA right now, so please don't take my words as the Bible, ok? I'll try however to answer your question based on what I do know.

First of all, if you're going the whitehat route - and I hope you are - you should be asking this question to your affiliate manager. Contrary to popular opinion, he should become your best friend. If there's something you believe you should be hiding from him, then just don't do it (my opinion, of course). It's not ethical and it's not worth it in the long run, either. If you have a good AM, your life becomes much simpler and your efforts more profitable. Do trust me on this one.

Also, CPA companies come in the most diverse shapes and colors. Policies vary from one to the other. There are those who play by the book and then there are others which are ok with the darker shades of grey, if you know what I mean. In fact, some of them actually get their offers from bigger companies; that's why affiliates' compensation is lower (they act as the middle man). Once again, be careful when you choose your CPA company and check with your AM before trying sth. funny.

And then, "paid ads" stands for a whole universe of posibilities, ranging from PPC at Google, Bing or sth smaller like 7search, to Facebook ads, PPV, display, Youtube ads, etc. Many different policies and rules to consider in each case, my friend.

Having said that, I can tell you this:

Direct linking to an offer is not sth that will get you penalized unless you're doing it for an offer which doesn't allow it (every offer allows a certain type of traffic, geo targeting, etc); more likely, it could get your account at certain traffic sources (Adwords, Bing, Facebook, Buysellads) penalized or at least your campaign rejected at some point. The important things to consider here are these:

- Places like Adwords, Bing ads or Facebook ads don't want you to direct link to your offers (PPV is a whole different ballgame)

- In any case, direct linking is (in my humble opinion, and from what I've heard from friends doing it) not as profitable anymore, particularly in certain niches and markets with more competition. You should treat CPA offers as we do with affiliate offers: Build a landing page with quality info and build your list right there. Then you'll have the chance to promote CPA offers - or anything else - to your list plenty of times. Also, once someone's subscribed to your list, you can re-direct right there to a CPA offer of choice (preferably a simple email submit) instead of using a traditional thank you page. This way you can pay for your own advertising and building a list becomes free or at least cheaper.

Now, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by redirecting to an offer. If you mean simply to add a landing page as an intermediary, then I answered your question above. If you mean using a redirect on your own domain or someone else's (, for instance), I guess it shouldn't be a problem (depending, however on the domain you use and the offer you select; sometimes, companies are rather picky). In fact, if I remember correctly, Peerfly for instance has added custom traffic redirects to deal with the very problem I mentioned before (not being able to include peerfly links, for example, in Facebook ads). This way, you'd be using a domain of your own to redirect and track traffic by simply updating your A Records, instead of using a meta refresh.

Now, cloaking is sth. else. Yes, you can get penalized for doing this, and rightfully so more often than not. There are a few cases were its use could be legit (for geo targeting or defending yourself against certain unscrupulous activities, I guess), but then I would definitely check with my AM before doing this. Besides, beware that to my knowledge every cloaking device leaks at least a bit.

Anyways, that's pretty much what I know. Nonetheless, I advice you once more to double check. Most importantly, check with your guy at your CPA company of choice. That's perhaps the most important piece of advice I can give you.

All the best

oh bless you bro. That dude above does not know that this thing requires lots of work before stating that $100 per day is small; I could easily see he is one of those who read info but not even into it to begin with.

And yeah, I mean using domain name to redirect to CPA offers.

In this manner.

Facebook ads or any ads---->domain redirect----> CPA offers. So you mean doing it this way wouldn't get me penalize, right? Fair enough!

Thanks.

remedick:
question is do you? I am not saying it is not possible and yeah. DO YOU MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY? I am not talking about someone who read about it someone BUT one who practices it as well as a major income. I am not asking because I am new to online money making.

I am asking because I have a VERY IMPORTANT Piece of Puzzle question to ask.

So if your answer is yes, here I my question:

Do CPA companies allow you to drive traffic from paid ads to the offers directly to the offer pages, use redirect or link cloaking without penalizing you?

My interest is pay per lead in a certain niche, as well as free trials offer ( This should explain to you that I know something about it) The guy that even introduce CPA to Nigeria is Kenneth Ifeanyi but he was one of those early information marketing scammers and so he wasn't giving people the needed information cos he wasn't even practising what he preaches in the first place. This was in 2009.

JamesKenneth, thanks for the info shared so far. Please, can you help me answer the above?

My gee, no need for too much talk..I can show you screenshots of my yesterday and today earnings and even that of 3 to 4 months ago to let you know no be mouth and not a novice however am not obligated to do that so be cool with your piece..


Quickly to your qst, Yes generally they do .. Infact that's the organic way of promoting.. the issue of creating landing pages or redirecting is to optimize conversions.. and this is not limited to paid traffic only also free traffic.. And no CPA network should penalize you for cloaking link.. it's your affiliated link, you can't tamper with it.. cloaking only helps hides to your targeted audience that the link is an affiliate link which will do well in making them take action on the offer unmindful of the fact that they are only completing an affiliate offer.... the only unethical thing in promotion of CPA offers is promoting an offer using Incentives/incentive traffic when it was clearly stated that such traffic is not allowed for the offer...or generally sending traffic using a traffic method that was clearly stated in the offer not allowed..

As for the Kenneth guy or whoever, good for him..
I got my own piece of struggle too and know what I went through gee..
it's my passion for making it and investment in knowledge that got me here...
But all that is past, now we make the money not the talk

remedick:
oh bless you bro. That dude above does not know that this thing requires lots of work before stating that $100 per day is small; I could easily see he is one of those who read info but not even into it to begin with.

And yeah, I mean using domain name to redirect to CPA offers.

In this manner.

Facebook ads or any ads---->domain redirect----> CPA offers. So you mean doing it this way wouldn't get me penalize, right? Fair enough!

Thanks.

What u wrote is the best way to promote CPA offers and get fast conversion. If u are okay with promoting adult niche offers, try sign up with crakrevenue dot com.

Then register a domain name that has cam in it. E.g: slimmygalcam dot com. Then redirect your crakrev offers to your domain, then promote your domain. You will be making much money,

I made money with it but at a point, my conscience started pricking me on the adult offer stuffs I was promoting, I stopped

CPA works

humilitypays:
What u wrote is the best way to promote CPA offers and get fast conversion. If u are okay with promoting adult niche offers, try sign up with crakrevenue dot com.

Then register a domain name that has cam in it. E.g: slimmygalcam dot com. Then redirect your crakrev offers to your domain, then promote your domain. You will be making much money,

I made money with it but at a point, my conscience started pricking me on the adult offer stuffs I was promoting, I stopped

CPA works

I am okay promoting anything as long as it pay money. Yeah, I like that method described there cos I do not have to write anything via emails. Want it quick but the ROI compared to invested money is what I would also look at. If the ROI is very high compared to invested money, man, I will rock the hell out of it. Was it pay per lead offers you promoted for porn?

I read that free trials does well and financial leads are the highest paying.

Why did you stop completely? You should have just chose another niche and continue making money bro.

remedick:
oh bless you bro. That dude above does not know that this thing requires lots of work before stating that $100 per day is small; I could easily see he is one of those who read info but not even into it to begin with.

And yeah, I mean using domain name to redirect to CPA offers.

In this manner.

Facebook ads or any ads---->domain redirect----> CPA offers. So you mean doing it this way wouldn't get me penalize, right? Fair enough!

Thanks.

Not sure Facebook will go for it and even if they do, you'd be better off using a landing page, imo. Then again, give it a try and prove me wrong.

Good luck.

remedick:
I am okay promoting anything as long as it pay money. Yeah, I like that method described there cos I do not have to write anything via emails. Want it quick but the ROI compared to invested money is what I would also look at. If the ROI is very high compared to invested money, man, I will rock the hell out of it. Was it pay per lead offers you promoted for porn?

I read that free trials does well and financial leads are the highest paying.

Why did you stop completely? You should have just chose another niche and continue making money bro.

I tried game offers, health and beauty, they didn't work for me. I then tried the adult offers via crakrev, it worked, but with time, I wasn't comfy promoting adult content, I was battling with conscience, so I stopped.

There is no much investment required aside money to purchase domain name. But u need to work to promote your domain which is also your offer, using free methods.

ExplicitContent:


My gee, no need for too much talk..I can show you screenshots of my yesterday and today earnings and even that of 3 to 4 months ago to let you know no be mouth and not a novice however am not obligated to do that so be cool with your piece..


Quickly to your qst, Yes generally they do .. Infact that's the organic way of promoting.. the issue of creating landing pages or redirecting is to optimize conversions.. and this is not limited to paid traffic only also free traffic.. And no CPA network should penalize you for cloaking link.. it's your affiliated link, you can't tamper with it.. cloaking only helps hides to your targeted audience that the link is an affiliate link which will do well in making them take action on the offer unmindful of the fact that they are only completing an affiliate offer.... the only unethical thing in promotion of CPA offers is promoting an offer using Incentives/incentive traffic when it was clearly stated that such traffic is not allowed for the offer...or generally sending traffic using a traffic method that was clearly stated in the offer not allowed..

As for the Kenneth guy or whoever, good for him..
I got my own piece of struggle too and know what I went through gee..
it's my passion for making it and investment in knowledge that got me here...
But all that is past, now we make the money not the talk

gee i believe you die i swear i need schooling for this game, can i contact you?

add me m interested09033013476

ExplicitContent:


My gee, no need for too much talk..I can show you screenshots of my yesterday and today earnings and even that of 3 to 4 months ago to let you know no be mouth and not a novice however am not obligated to do that so be cool with your piece..


Quickly to your qst, Yes generally they do .. Infact that's the organic way of promoting.. the issue of creating landing pages or redirecting is to optimize conversions.. and this is not limited to paid traffic only also free traffic.. And no CPA network should penalize you for cloaking link.. it's your affiliated link, you can't tamper with it.. cloaking only helps hides to your targeted audience that the link is an affiliate link which will do well in making them take action on the offer unmindful of the fact that they are only completing an affiliate offer.... the only unethical thing in promotion of CPA offers is promoting an offer using Incentives/incentive traffic when it was clearly stated that such traffic is not allowed for the offer...or generally sending traffic using a traffic method that was clearly stated in the offer not allowed..

As for the Kenneth guy or whoever, good for him..
I got my own piece of struggle too and know what I went through gee..
it's my passion for making it and investment in knowledge that got me here...
But all that is past, now we make the money not the talk

You won't believe I didn't get your mention.

Glad you didn't take offensive to my early quote on you. I was just trying to make sure I am getting information from someone who actually does it and not some sort of ebook consumer. You know them bro. I am expert at certain things too. This is just my alternate handle for scouting nairaland underground and building on things I feel I need

Thanks for the headsup.

Do we still have more input here? Come in and share your experience.

remedick:
Do we still have more input here? Come in and share your experience.

Hey, buddy

How's that CPA business going for you? Any results you can share already?

I registered in maxbounty but was rejected. I believe it was because am a Nigerian. Donno what's next. Anybody to help me

JamesKenneth:


Hey, buddy

How's that CPA business going for you? Any results you can share already?

I have been ill bro. I applied already but can't make calls now cos of my ears. I dropped a message for the rep that emailed me on skype

hspda:
I registered in maxbounty but was rejected. I believe it was because am a Nigerian. Donno what's next. Anybody to help me

did you make any attempt to call them or let them call you?

remedick:
I have been ill bro. I applied already but can't make calls now cos of my ears. I dropped a message for the rep that emailed me on skype

Sorry to hear that. Hope you get well soon.

Do you need a maxbounty account? I can get it for you.....Call me on....zero, eight, one, eight, one, five, seven, one, three, six, five,

@jameskeneth, remedick or any other guru in the house. I want a means of getting targeted traffic to a site i intend to build and getting high conversion rate to a working product i intend to sell. my goal is to have a list of up to 50,000 email addresses and phone numbers. And my target audience is Nigerians. Pls what effective way can i go about it. Tanx

donsimon2012:
@jameskeneth, remedick or any other guru in the house. I want a means of getting targeted traffic to a site i intend to build and getting high conversion rate to a working product i intend to sell. my goal is to have a list of up to 50,000 email addresses and phone numbers. And my target audience is Nigerians. Pls what effective way can i go about it. Tanx

The question is do you have the money? If yes, create a landing page and collect emails. Use facebook, linda ikeji, various blogs and newspaper sites like sunnewsonline

[quoate author=remedick post=50873243] The question is do you have the money? If yes, create a landing page and collect emails. Use facebook, linda ikeji, various blogs and newspaper sites like sunnewsonline[/quote] Like how much do i need for a start. And how do i go about it? Tanx

ExplicitContent:


My gee, no need for too much talk..I can show you screenshots of my yesterday and today earnings and even that of 3 to 4 months ago to let you know no be mouth and not a novice however am not obligated to do that so be cool with your piece..


Quickly to your qst, Yes generally they do .. Infact that's the organic way of promoting.. the issue of creating landing pages or redirecting is to optimize conversions.. and this is not limited to paid traffic only also free traffic.. And no CPA network should penalize you for cloaking link.. it's your affiliated link, you can't tamper with it.. cloaking only helps hides to your targeted audience that the link is an affiliate link which will do well in making them take action on the offer unmindful of the fact that they are only completing an affiliate offer.... the only unethical thing in promotion of CPA offers is promoting an offer using Incentives/incentive traffic when it was clearly stated that such traffic is not allowed for the offer...or generally sending traffic using a traffic method that was clearly stated in the offer not allowed..

As for the Kenneth guy or whoever, good for him..
I got my own piece of struggle too and know what I went through gee..
it's my passion for making it and investment in knowledge that got me here...
But all that is past, now we make the money not the talk

Hello bro, I have signed up at maxbounty, though it took me time because I suddenly developed hearing difficulty. I was able to do phone verification before approvals.

I have a few question.

I am more interested in pay per lead in:

Free trials | Loans | Free gift cards offers.

My question is do I need to build a list for this niches/offers? how do you run yours, build a list or you not build a list? What kind of ads would be cool, facebook, bing and native ads?