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Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Intrepid01(m): 8:25pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
dEastActivist: My Brother why are you people always playing the victim? No one is a baby that needs to be baby-sitred or over-hyped in order to do what must be done. You all need to get it, all regions and tribes are in a common square playing game. It is every man for himself. Northerners and Yorubas came together in 2015 cos they both had an similar interest, not cos they are or were at any point friends. That is how it works. I have said it on Twitter and elsewhere, an igbo president can only be achieved thru alignment of igbos with other regions. To think that other regions in Nigeria will wake up one day and say truly it is the turn of the igbos, my brother it will never happen. By igbos like other teibes will position theirself for it. No one dislikes the igbos. It is even more funny when igbos despite all the years of friendship and peaceful co-existence still see Yorubas as enemy. My Brother people only talk about how Awolowo gave all ibos with bank deposit before the war 1 naira but they don't talk about how all igbo properties in the SW were duly preserved for them. All the accounts of neighbours who took in their Igbo friends when they came back from the war. My brothers igbos are you not to be dwelling on past events, in life we all need to move on no matter what. Let us agree all the other tribes mistreated the igbos, yes, ain't the igbos gonna move on after 40yrs? I think the best way to even achieve Biafra is to even bury the hatchets and move on, align with others to get the presidency and then take a decision on Biafra. You can't cry of malignment when you win part of the deal. Please don't dwell on he Biafra part of you wanna reply me, let's talk about moving forward. Trust me Yorubas so vote en-masse for a capable igbo president anyday anytime. Remember aw Yorubas voted for GEJ, you remember he was deliberately positioned by OBJ a Yoruba man. But igbos need to show that they have left the past , they have to earn the trust they need. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by malton: 8:28pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Sweetguy25: God bless you for this post and a thousand times more for being humane! |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by MXrep: 8:44pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Look at these shameless hypocrites wailing up and down? I thought the north is the messiah that protect them from igbos?? i thought Gowon has apologized and IPOB can go to hell, they give you apologies and take 3% VAT? The south had a better chance to fight for whatever it wants under a southern president Jonathan but we southerners brought him down for refusing to do their wish of marginalizing igbos, and went for a northern bigot to do it for them, now they want to fight the north wen it had cornered all powerful positions?? They will soon dash you crumbs an make you gloat over how you are better off than igbos and that's the end 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by MXrep: 8:52pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Intrepid01:Igbos moved on long time ago, Nigerians refused to move on and it is the reason Nigeria will remain in poo. 14 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:54pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Sweetguy25:I am not AGAINST the development of any region but not at the expense of others. Donations are voluntary and should be so. BTW constituency in the Niger Delta deserve more than the constituency in Kano. And their problem was self inflicted unlike that in mine that was caused by the government and OICs. 2 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by dEastActivist: 8:55pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Intrepid01: [b]Bro, I really do not have any personal feelings agsint the Yorubas except some yoruba riffraffs we have in Nl but believe me I speak in the interest of the Igbos. Igbo's are good people, very jovial and loving. They even trust strangers and take care of them more than their immediate brothers. But I've spoken their minds. If is left for me and you we would have been chilling on a bottle of French wine for that piece. But I believe the only way the Igbos will feel homely again and not being scared of the thought of being hated or being chastised is for them to be given the slot of presidency from our top political parties. The North already will vote for an Igbo presidency just to foster peace in the nation(Gowon) but the Igbo's believe that the southerners especially the Yorubas are the ones fighting and bewitching that ambition. Let's give Igbos the presidency as This will clear every doubt and when we talk about southern unity then it will make sense as everyone will be expecting one another to come with clean hands for equity and fairness to be upheld.[/b] 7 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by MXrep: 8:57pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Sweetguy25:So how can easterners alone make any impact in Parliament? Are we not supposed to be our brothers keepers?? is it not the whole North that achieved the NEDC, did they pass the buck to 3 boko haram states alone?? 5 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Stricker321: 9:29pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Not a bad thread but no one takes the OP serious any more. From Barcanista to Tonyebarcanista. You could win the award for the most unstable character on nairaland. You are like the waves of the sea, tossed here and there depending on where the wind is blowing. Keep deceiving yourself talking about resource control. They have offered you apologies now they need a whole 3% VAT for themselves. They are also using oil money to agressively search for oil in the north probably because Buhari has access to some classified info that we don't could Nigeria be living on borrowed time? 15 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by nedu86(m): 10:08pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Following keenly |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Okanokan(m): 10:26pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Ol'boy how you dey? Good to be back. |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by ndcide(m): 10:36pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
anonimi: This is the whole truth.I don't know why some people want us to lie to ourselves about this boko haram, terrorism. It's sickening. 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by MONITZ: 11:11pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Justdulla: And wat is the contribution of the North eastern part of the country to the federal purse if I may ask since u ve decided to juxtapose N. E. D. C with N. D. D. C, let me give u some hints; VAT collection (almost zero for north east) while only Lagos generates a minimum of about 80% of the country's VAT ,also mineral resources ( zero for the North east as well, though there might be some prospects bt no exploitation that I know of yet),while the south southern part of the country contributes a huge chunk of the country's wealth. "From whom much is taken, much is given back" is a common saying . If we were practising true federalism, many northern states won't be able to fend for themselves and would definitely go bankrupt just like the state of Illinois is experiencing presently. The North is always tardy and inimical to the progress of the country as a whole, they re parasites ,to put it more succinctly and this is the major reason u guys don't want genuine federalism in Nigeria,bt we definitely can't continue like this forever, we will break this yoke thrust upon us by the British at the appropriate time. The imbalance is just too glaringly glaring, to highlight this, take a look at the old Kano and Lagos states that were created at about the same time ,two more states ve since been carved out of the old Kano thus making it ve about 70 Local government areas,if it was still a single state while Lagos still has the the same initial 20 L. G. A , minus the L. C. D. A's that Tinubu stubbornly created and which drew the ire of O. B. J and which made him seize Lagos state's allocation until Yaradua came in and cleared the backlog,now where in the world will u see this kind of injustice if not Nigeria because at the end of the day wen allocations will be given, the old Kano will differently be getting higher allocations because it has more L. G. A's than Lagos and this was wat Tinubu tried to correct by creating more L. C. D. A's before Obasanjo became a dog in the manger. U guys think u own this country and everything therein, u re making a very big mistake as the tide will surely turn someday because we can't just continue like this. True federalism is the only way out of this logjam so that every component can develop at her pace and pay taxes to the central government just like it should be done. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Bizibi(m): 11:22pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Well,even if the north get what they want they will still be were they are,no need arguing here.......as fr Southerners,well anything una see,una take am. |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Duru1(m): 12:22am On Oct 24, 2016 |
The word, Nigeria, is very unpatriotic as ever. Any bill that comes out of Nigeria is simply unpatriotic. 2 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by ImperialYoruba: 12:36am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Tonyebarcanista, The best approach to break power in the North is what Yorubas have been doing silently until it was unveiled publicly recently. There is no unity in North. There is more minority population distribution in the North than in the South. What the Northerners do is pay for patriotism. The Fulanis are suspicious of Hausas, they do not trust the Kanuris and despise the minorities but yet want to hold it all together and prevent a political common front that will oppose and displace the Fulani hegemony. Lugard was the Governor General that amalgamated North and South, his first assignment was Governor of Northern Nigeria. He brought his power and authority from North to bear in the overall administration of the joint regions when he transitioned from Governor to Governor General. He had a style which was indirect rule. He approached the Emirs for consultation on policies that impacted public. Therefore when he left Kaduna for Lagos he did not stop getting advise and thoughts from the North, even on those policies that had nothing to do with North. He regarded them as more willing partners to cement Colonial power in Nigeria, opposed to those in South agitating for end of Colonial power. He was able to get the Emirs support and loyalty by a simple strategy. He promised to hold the gate of Christian missionary works closed and away from the Emirates. In exchange they partnered with him to make the governance of North smooth and seamless. The Fulani Emirs are afraid of a competing faith and belief system to supplant and gain popularity in North. This is why they massacre people of Southern Kaduna, Bauchi, Plateau, Benue, Borno....and so on. They fear encroachment of Christianity. They kill off Christian men and boys and kidnap the young girls, force them into conversion and take ownership and call it irreversible. Lol. Let's focus on how to disrupt and displace Fulani in North by raising and empowering a competitive political bloc that is under Fulani....but anti-Fulani. They sense the increased agitation and know there is an underground force waiting to explode but they dont know where it will come from or when. This led into the hijack of bokoharam from a religious group and turned it into a terrorist group. In fact Murtala Nyako had a template of what happened and the strategy deployed in that transformation. He blamed it on Jonathan instead of accusing his people in Jalingo of sabotage. This also tie in with why they clamped down on Shiaa. There is a new brouhaha in Sokoto between Sunni and Izala,led by Gumi. So the North is slowly imploding and we can help accelerate it. 7 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by ImperialYoruba: 1:04am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Dont be deceived! When Fulani is sense their clampdown on Northern minorities is under threat they never take responsibility and attribute it to their oppression and persecution of the people, instead they label it an Anti-North action from South. The label here is captioned Anti North but in reality they mean ANTI FULANI. Message to Northern minorities...DO NOT BE DECEIVED! 4 Likes
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Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by ycat: 4:22am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Argh! Another day another story. I just hate it when people complain all the time and do nothing about it. The northern senators know that their southern counterparts are fools, and the southern senators know their constituents are slaves who don't know their rights. 3 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by QuotaSystem: 5:24am On Oct 24, 2016 |
ImperialYoruba: I deliberately avoided this thread because not only is it baseless, inhumane and reeks of ignorance and hypocrisy, but also the snaky nature of the OP who is more unstable than a girl with a vibrator_. This post however takes the cake for unmitigated dishonesty, ignorance and self delusion. In fact the satisfaction that you are off the target by at least a mile is much deeper than the conviction to knock sense into your head so you will be allowed to wallow in folly as your division continues to be capitalized upon by the United North you dread. Good morning. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Nobody: 6:25am On Oct 24, 2016 |
TonyeBarcanista: It is d right of any senator to present any bill that favour its constituency. They can as well have asked for 100% of VAT. They have d right to present anything as bill. It is d duty of our sounthern senators to turn down d bill. That is why we sent them there. We didnt send our senators there to be looking like fools while d northern senators is outsmarting them. 1 Like |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Igboid: 6:43am On Oct 24, 2016 |
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Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Igboid: 6:43am On Oct 24, 2016 |
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Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Igboid: 6:43am On Oct 24, 2016 |
I see nothing wrong with the Bill. What was good for Lagos and Abuja will also be good for the NE. Just as FG after the war decided to spend money building up Lagos and Abuja while abandoning us in the East to rebuild our war torn region ourselves, NE is about to get FG Lagos /Abuja attention. Ndiigbo are quite used to this anomalous ways of Nigeria already. No well breastfed Igbo person in tune with the post war policies of the FG will even be perturbed by this turn of events. I wonder why those( Lagos) who were once beneficiaries of the FG unjust way of choosing her development plans area are now the ones crying blue murder, expecting us ( Easterners) who were once at the receiving end of such injustice to join them , this is rather hypocritical if you ask me. 12 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by joseph1832ng: 7:11am On Oct 24, 2016 |
bejeiodus:The emboldened just painted all what you said as sentiment!. Which is of course, one of the bane that is hindering this nation from progression. A people sat back, allowed sentiment to be their guide and their own brothers, sisters and fellow country men where slaughtered by islamic un-educated illiterate and you're talking about empathy? Perish the thought!. Listen bro, a man should take responsibility fo his action(s) not use sentiment and try to cajole people to his aid. The North East brought this anathema to themselves, they should own up to their mistake and fix the problem themselves, not use sentiment and try to take what they so do not deserve. Plain and simple. 1 Like |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Nobody: 7:29am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Intrepid01: SE(Igbos) are already Fighting, SS( Niger Delta) are already fighting for aqll the injustices, the only ppl sabotaging their efforts and have been conniving with the North is South west( YORUBAS), if Northerners had support the Lagos Bill they would have sharply supported this bill without berthing an eyelid...... SS and SE we know our common enemy 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:34am On Oct 24, 2016 |
ImperialYoruba:Honestly, we need to get rid of Southern puppets that keep doing the bidding of northern elite at the expense of the zones in the south. And I'm in full support of the suggestion because of the need for fairness and justice 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Tex42(m): 7:45am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Sweetguy25:spot on bro! I'm from the southeast, Anambra to be specific. U just summarised all I wanted to say in one sentence. Decades after the Civil War, yet not even a soul at the NASS /upper Chambers was bold or smart enough to raise a bill for the institution of the 3Rs by Gowan. Hmmm! So much for Southern education! What we have in the East as lawmakers are a bunch of selfish, good for nothing fellows... It's a pity anyways. Must say i admire ur intelligence to have come up with this fact. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Intrepid01(m): 9:05am On Oct 24, 2016 |
GreatSE: Bros stop being petty. Stop crying like a bereaved person. In 2011, the SWesterners went all out to support GEJ. The only state where Ribadu had a meaningful vote was Osun state. The fact that SWesterners decided to go the other way round in 2015 does not make them ENEMIES of SS or SE. If you would be realistic to yourself; It was a SWesterner in person Obasanjo that purposely positioned GEJ for presidency. It was also the SWesteners that came all out through Femi Falana's Campaign for Democracy to support GEJ when he was being marginalized by Yaradua's kitchen cabinet. But the problem with some people is, they think they have right to your loyalty. No one has right to anyones loyalty, it is earned. SEasterners supported GEJ because they benefited from his Governemnt the most. You need to understand this is politics, you support the side that favours you. Yorubas felt betrayed by GEJ based on his choice of appointment and re-aligned with the North to have the Vice-presidency since they have produced the President in recent time. But the truth is there is no permanent friend or enemy in politics, there is only PERMANENT INTEREST. The issue is the South Southerners have moved on but the Igbos have refused to move on, crying more than the bereaved. The fact is the only way to have a short at the Presidency is through ALIGNMENT. IGBOs can only produce the president if they bury the hatchet and move on. But that seems to be very difficult to do. If all Southernes regions decide to be at loggerheads, it will only be to the advantage of the North. So it will be a collective loss. 1 Like |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Bitterleafsoup: 9:12am On Oct 24, 2016 |
TonyeBarcanista:They did seek alternate sources. Did you forget the billions in loans to rebuild the North? http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/187051-boko-haram-nigeria-borrows-2-1-bn-from-world-bank-to-rebuild-north-east.html 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Bitterleafsoup: 9:18am On Oct 24, 2016 |
QuotaSystem: Can you tell me what happen to the billions they already got from World Bank? 2 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by opiaoku: 9:24am On Oct 24, 2016 |
dEastActivist:I love you ![]() No homo 2 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by opiaoku: 9:34am On Oct 24, 2016 |
dEastActivist:10 cans of burukutu for you bro 4 Likes |
Re: North East Development Commission Bill: An Unpatriotic And Unfortunate Bill by Oxenomy: 9:58am On Oct 24, 2016 |
This OP is an unstable character so, I will never take them serious.. A southerner was the president, but it's you his brothers that destroyed his administration with all sorts of malicious and hate-filled propaganda and the north who were already drowning politically latched on that and snatched power back to the North. Now they've got the power, they are all out to ensure that what happened before never repeats itself.. They are consolidating their hold on power by empowering the north economically (At the detriment of South of course) by : 1) Establishing NEDC but unlike NDDC which was funded from what comes out from ND, but the NEDC will be funded by 3% VAT for the next 10 years (which will be extended to another 10 years), and it's a common knowledge that 95% of VAT comes from South. A bill that was sponsored by a Lagos senator to keep 1% of VAT generated from Lagos, but we all knew what happened to the bill. BTW, http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/187051-boko-haram-nigeria-borrows-2-1-bn-from-world-bank-to-rebuild-north-east.html 2) Huge amount of resources are being deployed in searching for oil in the north and any sane mind knows that they are preparing for future economic prosperity of the North because they are already aware of the inevitable that will happen very soon. I'm not against this, if I'm in their shoe, I will do the same especially when my rivals from South are always foolish to claim righteousness than the saint. 3) They are also empowering the north politically with the way we are seeing the gradually colonization of 70% government agencies by the North and this is still the first year of this administration and when it gets to 5th years of Northerners in power, we will know where we are. The North are already in power and I urge my Igbo brothers not to use their hard earned money in fighting them, let us simply liaise with them to share the national cake and when it's finished, we all will go home. PS: This same unstable character is the one that created a thread accepting Gowon's apology to NDs simply because Igbos are against it. Anyway, na sidon look I de.. 10 Likes 1 Share |
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