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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by JAHseal: 9:49am On Oct 24, 2016
NgcoboP:

what an ignorant assertion. the Nigerian constitution doesn't recognise any illegal organisation named the DSS.
that having been said.... the DSS being patriotic is not my business.

Hahahhahahhaha!
Who's d ignorant 1 here?
...u amuse me.
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 9:52am On Oct 24, 2016
Excuzeme:


Your "thought-process" is an example of one of the reasons people say Nigeria has a FAILED Educational System and is a waste of time!

First, dont ever make a citation without putting the link to such, in your post!
You do that in a project/seminar paper and you get 5%, just for the effort. grin

Secondly, we are defining "Internal Security" ...in the context of a Nation, (not just a general definition of national security, as you are trying to imply). its shame you cant follow the logic of an argument.

Now, get some "free education" from me:

Internal Security of a Nation refers to the "State of Law and order within a Nation".
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/internal+security

Definition: Internal security, or IS, is the act of keeping peace within the borders of a sovereign state or other self-governing territories. generally by upholding the national law and defending against internal security threats. Responsibility for internal security may range from police to paramilitary forces, and in exceptional circumstances, the military itself.

Threats to internal security
Threats to the general peace may range from low-level civil disorder, large scale violence, or even an armed insurgency. Threats to internal security may be directed at either the state's citizens, or the organs and infrastructure of the state itself, and may range from petty crime, serious organised crime, political or industrial unrest, or even domestic terrorism. Foreign powers may also act as a threat to internal security, by either committing or sponsoring terrorism or rebellion, without actually declaring war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_security

So, if you have any brain matter, you would know by now that ANYTHING that threatens the "state of LAW and ORDER within a Nation", THREATENS Internal National Security of that nation and falls within the purview of the responsibility of the "internal" Security Service (DSS/SSS).

Its that simple but the fact that you still cant get it despite all these explanations, that even the dullest in class would have appreciated it, shows that you are actually an illiterate claiming to be educated!



And finally, if your "house-keeper" just regurgitated the same foolishness to you, it more likely means YOU are your own House-Keeper or that explains WHY he is a House-Keeper to another dunce, when his mates are working in banks and oil Companies! grin grin

From all the rubbish u quote here,where do u see that corruption and terrorism are related.no wonder we have terrorist attack in Nigeria. The job of DSS is just like a spy.gather informations and nail the culprit. DSS of this days are dogs fighting what is not their responsibilities. I pity you.

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by rusher14: 10:00am On Oct 24, 2016
Nigerians are way too corrupt.

They would look for any reason to keep the status quo going.

Why bring an external invigilator?

Why use PVC/Card readers?

Now it is why use the SSS to manage the issue of corruption (especially as it affects members of the judiciary) when we have other agencies.

It takes a strong leader to ignore these distractions and continue on his path to ridding the nation its many ills.

More blessings to the president.
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Nobody: 10:14am On Oct 24, 2016
Excuzeme:


The rationale or lack thereof, of these people, beggars belief!

Honestly, l wish we could just gather all these people with such "criminal mentality" and put them in Sambissa forest, under She-Cow! grin grin
No matter how much you try to remove their ignorance, they still come back unrepentantly even more IGNORANT!
What's even more irritating is that these people will clamour for ANY FORM of justice to meted out to petty thiefs and kidnappers but then cry and wail for 'due process' to be carried out on people like Dasuki who's evil acts cost the lives of thousands.
Its even more disgusting that even though the government is using the due process they're crying for, because of an immense hatred for the present admin, they going to any length to find loopholes in the 'due process' so as to halt the anti-corruption crusade!
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Excuzeme: 11:06am On Oct 24, 2016
coolplanet:


From all the rubbish u quote here,where do u see that corruption and terrorism are related.no wonder we have terrorist attack in Nigeria. The job of DSS is just like a spy.gather informations and nail the culprit. DSS of this days are dogs fighting what is not their responsibilities. I pity you.

Obviously, you lack Comprehension (ability to read and understand)!

See below:

Threats to internal security
Threats to the general peace may range from low-level civil disorder, large scale violence, or even an armed insurgency. Threats to internal security may be directed at either the state's citizens, or the organs and infrastructure of the state itself, and may range from petty crime, serious organised crime, political or industrial unrest, or even domestic terrorism. Foreign powers may also act as a threat to internal security, by either committing or sponsoring terrorism or rebellion, without actually declaring war.


If you dont understand that CORRUPTION qualifies as "low-level disorder", then you are daft.

End of story

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Excuzeme: 11:10am On Oct 24, 2016
AnonyNymous:

What's even more irritating is that these people will clamour for ANY FORM of justice to meted out to petty thiefs and kidnappers but then cry and wail for 'due process' to be carried out on people like Dasuki who's evil acts cost the lives of thousands.
Its even more disgusting that even though the government is using the due process they're crying for, because of an immense hatred for the present admin, they going to any length to find loopholes in the 'due process' so as to halt the anti-corruption crusade!


It is their types that put tyre around people's neck for stealing Tomato but permit Corruption that makes their life miserable.

It is HATRED that governs their logic!

I just pity folks like that

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by blackpanda: 11:20am On Oct 24, 2016
Chudichu:

As a concerned Nigerian, fighting corruption should be one of our first actions, but doing it in the right way, give the anti - corruption agencies the backing to do their jobs. If this method of fighting corruption continues. Impunity would continue and we would end up not getting the required results. They say, what ever is worth doing, is worth doing well, government should fight corruption in the right way. So excuses would not arise. Should the armed forces join in the anti corruption war? No, because it's not in their job specification. Same with the DSS their job specifications is simple ' Department of State Services (DSS), is the primary domestic intelligence agency of Nigeria. It is primarily responsible for intelligence gathering within the country and for the protection of senior government officials, particularly the President and state governors',

Dont say what u dont know. Go and read the National Security Agencies Act before u blab.

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Excuzeme: 11:24am On Oct 24, 2016
Let me sign-off from this thread by quoting what human right Activist and Lawyer said, in a recent interview:

Whenever judges were accused of corruption in the recent past, senior lawyers had rushed to court to secure court injunctions to frustrate the investigation and prosecution of the suspects. Neither the National Judicial Council nor the Nigerian Bar Association has ever called the judges and lawyers involved in the illegality to order. Sometime in 2011, it was alleged that the head of the National Judicial Institute was involved in N6bn fraud. He was politely invited for questioning by the Independent Corrupt Practices and Other Related Offences Commission, but the then sitting Chief Justice of Nigeria and Chairman of the Institute asked him to ignore the invitation.

The suspect did and thereafter, he secured an injunction at a Federal High Court to halt the investigation. As if that was not enough, he collated the names of 18 employees of the Institute and sacked them because he suspected that they had exposed the fraud to the ICPC. The sacked employees cried to the National Judicial Council and the Nigerian Bar Association for redress. They were ignored. They ran to my office, and I had to file a suit praying the Federal High Court to set aside their illegal dismissal. We are currently pursuing the matter on pro bono basis. On another occasion, a judge in a Federal High Court was invited by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission to explain the source of N2bn found in her account. She rushed to court and obtained an order which has restrained the EFCC from investigating and prosecuting her. Can you believe that the order was granted by one of the judges being investigated by the Department of State Services?

There is also the case of a chief judge, who used the public presentation of a book to raise money from members of the public, including litigants. At the ceremony, a businessman, who had two cases before the chief judge, announced a donation of N10m. A poor man, who had a case against the donor before the chief judge, asked his lawyer to apply for the transfer of his case to another judge.

The lawyer made the application. The chief judge ordered the lawyer’s arrest. After the NBA had refused to intervene to prevent the lawyer’s arrest, he had to turn to me. I took up his matter, approached a Federal High Court, which prohibited the police from carrying out the illegal order of the chief judge. His Lordship was allowed by the NBA to intimidate the lawyer. The NJC cleared the chief judge, but the matter was revisited when the chief judge ignored the advice of the NJC to transfer the cases to another judge. Based on the act of misconduct and other allegations of corruption, the chief judge has been removed. He was also arrested last week.

......Before then, a former NBA President, Mr. J.B. Daudu (SAN), had openly accused election petition tribunals of selling justice to the highest bidders. He even proceeded to set up an anti-corruption commission. But apart from holding seminars and workshops, the NBA has failed woefully to adopt concrete measures to purge the legal profession of corrupt judges and lawyers. Two sets of cases, election petitions, and corruption cases have continued to expose the nation’s judiciary to ridicule. Such cases are handled by senior lawyers, but some of them are compromised as justice is said to be sold to the highest bidders. The NBA leaders know all the corrupt judges and lawyers. The branches of the NBA also know them.


[url]http://saharareporters.com/2016/10/22/nigerian-bar-association-leaders-know-all-corrupt-judges-lawyers-nigeria-%E2%80%93falana[/url]


Are these the Judges you want the Police ONLY to deal with?

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 11:46am On Oct 24, 2016
Excuzeme:


Obviously, you lack Comprehension (ability to read and understand)!

See below:


If you dont understand that CORRUPTION qualifies as "low-level disorder", then you are daft.

End of story

Your elders are daft
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by AntiHater: 11:51am On Oct 24, 2016
coolplanet:


Open your eyes and also Google search their responsibilities. DSS is for internal security and not for fighting corruption. They work like FBI in America. Is just like saying DSS should represent Nigeria in war zones.I laugh u.

So FBI don't investigate corruption or arrest people for corruption??. Mahn!!smh!! why do you people always defend corruption. I want to know, please tell us. Witch hunt or not why do u want corruption cases be handled sofly, what do u stand to gain from supporting corruption that is ruining us a country?

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 11:55am On Oct 24, 2016
AntiHater:


So FBI don't investigate corruption or arrest people for corruption??. Mahn!!smh!! why do you people always defend corruption. I want to know, please tell us. Witch hunt or not why do u want corruption cases be handled sofly, what do u stand to gain from supporting corruption that is ruining us a country?

I only support government that follows due process.
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Excuzeme: 12:15pm On Oct 24, 2016
coolplanet:


Your elders are daft

Hahahahha!
Na so e pain you reach?
grin grin grin

get a life Boy!
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 12:18pm On Oct 24, 2016
Excuzeme:


Hahahahha!
Na so e pain you reach?
grin grin grin

get a life Boy!

I only curse ur elders because you don't have regards to other elders so enjoy the curse.omo ale jatijati
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Chudichu(m): 12:30pm On Oct 24, 2016
blackpanda:


Dont say what u dont know. Go and read the National Security Agencies Act before u blab.
Oga.. There is no problem, national security agencies act abi? That's one major problem with Nigeria, our behavior of the end would justify the means, we can't just do decide things right and in the right manner. A lawyer was telling me, that even the constitution doesn't recognize any agency as the DSS, what is stated is SSS. Normal Nigeria way, someone just decided to rename it DSS.
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Excuzeme: 12:42pm On Oct 24, 2016
coolplanet:


I only curse ur elders because you don't have regards to other elders so enjoy the curse.omo ale jatijati

So you are not only illiterate, you also curse your Elders! grin grin grin

All just because you are Corruption-infested?

What a Muppet son of a wh*o.re!
shocked shocked shocked
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by blackpanda: 12:57pm On Oct 24, 2016
Chudichu:

Oga.. There is no problem, national security agencies act abi? That's one major problem with Nigeria, our behavior of the end would justify the means, we can't just do decide things right and in the right manner. A lawyer was telling me, that even the constitution doesn't recognize any agency as the DSS, what is stated is SSS. Normal Nigeria way, someone just decided to rename it DSS.


That is the problem with nigerians. Instead of opening book to read or even use google, you rather base ur opinion on what one "mysterious" lawyer said. Sir, the law is there for u in black and white. Is not about listening to roadside gossip or baseless insinuations ok.
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Chudichu(m): 2:40pm On Oct 24, 2016
blackpanda:



That is the problem with nigerians. Instead of opening book to read or even use google, you rather base ur opinion on what one "mysterious" lawyer said. Sir, the law is there for u in black and white. Is not about listening to roadside gossip or baseless insinuations ok.
No need to argue.. Please check the nigerian constitution.. Then get back to me.. Thank you

The National Security Agencies Act, Decree 19 of June 5, 1986, established the SSS and two other intelligence agencies for the Nigerian state.
Section One of the Act states: “There shall, for the effective conduct of national security, be established the following National Security Agencies, that is to say-(a) the Defence Intelligence Agency; (b) the National Intelligence Agency; and (c) the State Security Service”.
Throughout the Act, the “State Security Service” was mentioned three times, and nowhere was the “Department of State Services” cited.

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Excuzeme: 4:02pm On Oct 24, 2016
How "the Name" it is called matters so much, is not even the issue.

If they like, let them call it Jonathan Security Services grin grin

As long as what it does is to PROTECT the Nigerian State and its Citizens, from "all and sundry acts" that can lead to "National Chaos" (insecurity), then it is good to go.

Let us stop chasing Ring Worm, while not addressing Leprosy! - Proverb.

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by rafindo(m): 8:28pm On Oct 24, 2016
coolplanet:


In such case as the president, he can offer vigilante group that same responsibility. Nonsense. Every department have their core responsibility which is known to them and the public.DSS is for state security like FBI in America. This is misplace of responsibility. I now know that being fully educated is not a mistake. Buhari refused to complete his and was a drop out. Have u ever thought if ICPC is still relevant.If yes,where are they?
.and FBI do not investigate corruption .lol I have at ur oozing ignorance. U just want to be known for making a statement

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by rafindo(m): 8:32pm On Oct 24, 2016
Chudichu:

As a concerned Nigerian, fighting corruption should be one of our first actions, but doing it in the right way, give the anti - corruption agencies the backing to do their jobs. If this method of fighting corruption continues. Impunity would continue and we would end up not getting the required results. They say, what ever is worth doing, is worth doing well, government should fight corruption in the right way. So excuses would not arise. Should the armed forces join in the anti corruption war? No, because it's not in their job specification. Same with the DSS their job specifications is simple ' Department of State Services (DSS), is the primary domestic intelligence agency of Nigeria. It is primarily responsible for intelligence gathering within the country and for the protection of senior government officials, particularly the President and state governors',
.Mr clever define wat is intelligence gathering. After that use ur definition to juxtaposed ur point again. Lol at did generation. Even with films talking about security agency corruption is also part of it.

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Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Chudichu(m): 10:46pm On Oct 24, 2016
rafindo:
.Mr clever define wat is intelligence gathering. After that use ur definition to juxtaposed ur point again. Lol at did generation. Even with films talking about security agency corruption is also part of it.
So your point is? How does intelligence gathering like getting detailed information on security threats, that would eventually nip a terrorist attack in the bud relate to anti corruption? I don't get your point, Sir.
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by iukpe: 1:43am On Oct 25, 2016
We need to use whatever means possible to arrest the sorry situation at which things have gone in our country. Many segments of the Anti-corruption process will be compromised if the best method is not applied.
The most important concern to me is whether at this time we have the sincerity and good will of our leaders and all Nigerians especially those who are guilty of treasury looting right from independence. It has become a way of things and more are struggling to get there.
People have picked up guns to fight their way to power so they can speed up their "wealth achievement", naturally scaring off well meaning Nigerians from the ambitions of political service.
150 million people cannot wait their turn to get a bite of the National cake, there for those responsible for spreading this wealth should not be allowed to loot us dry and cheat all. I wonder if we have had up to 300,000 people in government so far since independence, we are over 100 million Nigerians. When will be our turn at this rate?
Let's all remember that the youths of today have been cheated out of the fulfillment of life as Nigerians which our country could have easily provided. Most of them lost in direction, not knowing where they are going.
RIGHT must reign over WRONG in our country. Nigerians are so afraid of what happened in Ghana years ago, because we know our kinsmen, brothers and friends are all involved. But where are we today?.... blaming the other but not blaming ourselves.
If we do not ACT NOW and decisively, to expose and end the idea that public office is about enriching oneself, we may not have another chance to even try and the next thing may be WAR.
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by iukpe: 1:52am On Oct 25, 2016
There are a lot of Nigerians who do not know what corrupt people are capable of, or what a Nigerian who is being investigated for up to N10m to N1b can do. If you are going after such persons whether by questioning or guns, you will understand.
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 7:10pm On Oct 25, 2016
rafindo:
.and FBI do not investigate corruption .lol I have at ur oozing ignorance. U just want to be known for making a statement

Today's news

President Buhari Orders DSS To Hand Over Judges' Cases To EFCC
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 7:11pm On Oct 25, 2016
Excuzeme:


So you are not only illiterate, you also curse your Elders! grin grin grin

All just because you are Corruption-infested?

What a Muppet son of a wh*o.re!
shocked shocked shocked

Today's news

President Buhari Orders DSS To Hand Over Judges' Cases To EFCC
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 7:13pm On Oct 25, 2016
AntiHater:


So FBI don't investigate corruption or arrest people for corruption??. Mahn!!smh!! why do you people always defend corruption. I want to know, please tell us. Witch hunt or not why do u want corruption cases be handled sofly, what do u stand to gain from supporting corruption that is ruining us a country?

Today's news

President Buhari Orders DSS To Hand Over Judges' Cases To EFCC
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 7:15pm On Oct 25, 2016
AnonyNymous:

The Nigerian constitution mirrors the US government's own. In fact, our system of government is the same. I've said what I want to say, its up to you to accept it or not.
My 'facts' are on the internet for you to see. Just like the USSS, the DSS is under a homeland security department. I don't see why its so difficult for you to understand that financial crimes are also part of their responsibility. When President Nixon was involved in the midnight break-in of the Democratic Party headquarters to manipulate things to his favor, a clear case of fraud, the USSS which was responsible for protecting him also investigated the case along with other bodies. The DSS are helping us expose corruption and you're heavily against it If the NPF that are supposed to be working alongside them refuse to do their work, that should not deter the DSS from forging on.


Today's news

President Buhari Orders DSS To Hand Over Judges' Cases To EFCC
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by Adisodelight22(m): 7:36pm On Oct 25, 2016
You can as well open ur brain,this is a special operation and not war zone,so stop ur nonsense correlation.
coolplanet:


Open your eyes and also Google search their responsibilities. DSS is for internal security and not for fighting corruption. They work like FBI in America. Is just like saying DSS should represent Nigeria in war zones.I laugh u.
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 7:59pm On Oct 25, 2016
Adisodelight22:
You can as well open ur brain,this is a special operation and not war zone,so stop ur nonsense correlation.

Today's news

President Buhari Orders DSS To Hand Over Judges' Cases To EFCC
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by AntiHater: 10:41pm On Oct 25, 2016
coolplanet:


Today's news

President Buhari Orders DSS To Hand Over Judges' Cases To EFCC

After the dss arrested them, so what's your point? Arrest not prosecution! Dig that
Re: Exclude DSS From Anti-corruption Operations, Group Advises Buhari by coolplanet: 10:19am On Oct 26, 2016
AntiHater:


After the dss arrested them, so what's your point? Arrest not prosecution! Dig that


This is the assignment of DSS read below

More of the over 200 Chibok school girls from Borno State abducted on April 14, 2014 by Boko Haram have been released, News Express can report this evening.

“I can confirm to you that more of the girls have been released and will soon be brought to Abuja,” a usually reliable security source told News Express on Tuesday evening.

The source could not confirm the number of girls released this time but assured that they were already in the custody of the Department of State Services (DSS).

News Express reports that the first batch of 21 of the Chibok schoolgirls were recently released by Boko Haram.

“The release of the girls, in a limited number is the outcome of negotiations between the administration and the Boko Haram brokered by the International Red Cross and the Swiss government,” the Presidency had said at the time. It added that “the negotiations will continue.”

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