Posidonius:

Henry240, wondering why we can't shift our focus to the Indian HTT 40, and maybe with a JV we can get a super Tucano replacement. Armed to the teeth with Chinese or Russian weapons.

Henry240:


Thanks, i've shared this one previously.

Henry240:


There has to be first an existing military partnership before any JV can be carried out. We currently don't have that with India.

nemesis2u:


.....................and i thought u were quite informed about Nigerian military .

military relationship/partnership exists .
what does not exist is military-industrial cooperation.

army aviation ?
NDA ?
navy ?

as to ur BVR question i will answer that later , fuuking windows update is chewing me up.

Henry240:


You should know i was referring to military-industrial relationship, which by the way, actually exists. That's where i made an error.


The Nigerian navy and Indian navy signed an MoU earlier this year(2016) on a joint partnership to locally build 2 ships for the Nigerian navy. A Landing Ship Tank and a Hydographic ship.


The current Nigerian President attending courses at Indian military school, there's also an agreement for joint training between the Nigerian navy SBS and the Indian navy special forces unit.


Cooperation exists across the board.

nemesis2u:
Indian CT ops, the terrorists r armed heavily with made in china weapons/............

chinese8107:

they r poorly equipped,why not have bullet proof vest or NVG ?
China made weapons are everywhere just like Russia made weapons in Syria ,Iraq,Afghan,Pakistan,South America,Africa...almost every battlefields,sometimes both sides.

nemesis2u:




most of the times,
deadly weapons dont make a soldier, its the soldier who make the weapons deadly but i guess u never knew that

chinese8107:


right . then why not India use INSAS rifle for CTO but purchase from other countrys. recent India is aquiring 7.62 x 51 NATO rifles in international market.

HK417 is a good option, the problem is price

nemesis2u:


lol u and indian media are like........birds of the same flock


India is acquiring 7.62 x 51 NATO rifles for its RR troops who r tasked with CT ops.

army uses 5.56mm during conventional wars so that the bullets injure and not kill so that the enemy is burdened with managing the injured troops.

in CT ops 5.56mm is not effective , when every shot must kill the terrorists.

INSAS and its variants will always be there for the conventional army.

chinese8107:


the reason is INSAS not satisfied on it's accuracy and reliablity especially in wildly open arera like plateaus.

but if not for special force or frontline troops It's OK.

the reason is INSAS not satisfied on it's accuracy and reliablity especially in wildly open arera like plateaus.

bidexiii:
China to unveil new M20 short-range tactical missile system at Zhuhai Airshow 2016


http://defence-blog.com/news/china-to-unveil-new-m20-short-range-tactical-missile-system-at-zhuhai-airshow-2016.html

tdayof:
The great Admiral

nemesis2u:


do u ever bother to think/research before u type.

INSAS Rifle was designed and developed by DRDO based on Qualitative Requirements (QRs) set in 1982 and met all QR parameters and inducted into Service in 1996. The Rifle has been fully exploited since then including OP Vijay in 1999. Subsequent to OP Vijay (kargil war) in sub zero temperatures , the following problems were observed:

(a) Loosening of flash eliminator

(b) Loosening of Piece guide

(c) Upper Hand Guard requirement

(d) Additional safety in firing mechanism

(e) Grenade sight requirement

(f) Improved Lever Locking Gas Cylinder

DRDO & Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) jointly took up product improvement program based on the above feedback received from User. Necessary improvements were carried out and introduced in the Improved Rifle as Rifle Mark 1B1 in 2001.

DRDO has developed the INSAS weapon system at a cost of Rs. 3.50 Cr. This is less than 1 million dollars

based on the experienced gained the following weapons/varient were developed
1.Multi Caliber Individual Weapon System, (MCIWS)
2.KALANTAK carbine
3.AMOGH/MICRO INSAS
4.JVPC/MSMC PDW
5.EXCALIBUR
6.INSAS LMG
7.ASSAULT RIFLE MK1C
8.TRICHY ASSAULT RIFLE
9.GHATAAK
ETC

close to one million INSAS rifles have been built till date .

in 2011 a tender was floated and of them CZ-805, ARX-160, Galil ACE, and Colt Combat Rifle made it to the trial round.Galil ACE and ARX-160 were left in the final competition.however in 2015, the tender was cancelled.

it should interest u that in September 2015, EXCALIBUR had passed the water and mud tests, which four of the foreign rifles in the above tender competition had failed.
the EXCALIBUR will replace the INSAS RIFLES.



from were did u conjure this false info.

INSAS never had any complains on accuracy and reliability was not a issue once the improvements were made.

when a country wants to develop a small arms industry , it will face teething problems , need i remind u of the poorly made unreliable Chinese clones in the past , after spending 30 years on developing small arms it is in a better stage today.
US RUSSIA GERMANY have experience of 100 years , they have PEDIGREE , India is trying to build the same.there are no short cuts.

if Indian private sector is allowed to make small arms then it will be a huge leap for Indian small arms industry. the govt companies monopoly must be broken to increase competition and produce world class better products. now it leaves much to be desired.

edit: EXCALBUR has already been inducted into some para military forces. the person on the extreme right is carrying it, with the field glasses .




also the tender for 7.62 x 51mm rifles will also get cancelled mark my words.
the MCIWS is being converted to fire 7.62x51mm rounds (the rifle on the right side)

and the rifle on the left side is INSAS 1B1 in its final iteration and the object of ur scorn

United States Armed Forces

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0L11Bf4Y_Q

nemesis2u:


do u ever bother to think/research before u type.

INSAS Rifle was designed and developed by DRDO based on Qualitative Requirements (QRs) set in 1982 and met all QR parameters and inducted into Service in 1996. The Rifle has been fully exploited since then including OP Vijay in 1999. Subsequent to OP Vijay (kargil war) in sub zero temperatures , the following problems were observed:

(a) Loosening of flash eliminator

(b) Loosening of Piece guide

(c) Upper Hand Guard requirement

(d) Additional safety in firing mechanism

(e) Grenade sight requirement

(f) Improved Lever Locking Gas Cylinder

DRDO & Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) jointly took up product improvement program based on the above feedback received from User. Necessary improvements were carried out and introduced in the Improved Rifle as Rifle Mark 1B1 in 2001.

DRDO has developed the INSAS weapon system at a cost of Rs. 3.50 Cr. This is less than 1 million dollars

based on the experienced gained the following weapons/varient were developed
1.Multi Caliber Individual Weapon System, (MCIWS)
2.KALANTAK carbine
3.AMOGH/MICRO INSAS
4.JVPC/MSMC PDW
5.EXCALIBUR
6.INSAS LMG
7.ASSAULT RIFLE MK1C
8.TRICHY ASSAULT RIFLE
9.GHATAAK
ETC

close to one million INSAS rifles have been built till date .

in 2011 a tender was floated and of them CZ-805, ARX-160, Galil ACE, and Colt Combat Rifle made it to the trial round.Galil ACE and ARX-160 were left in the final competition.however in 2015, the tender was cancelled.

it should interest u that in September 2015, EXCALIBUR had passed the water and mud tests, which four of the foreign rifles in the above tender competition had failed.
the EXCALIBUR will replace the INSAS RIFLES.



from were did u conjure this false info.

INSAS never had any complains on accuracy and reliability was not a issue once the improvements were made.

when a country wants to develop a small arms industry , it will face teething problems , need i remind u of the poorly made unreliable Chinese clones in the past , after spending 30 years on developing small arms it is in a better stage today.
US RUSSIA GERMANY have experience of 100 years , they have PEDIGREE , India is trying to build the same.there are no short cuts.

if Indian private sector is allowed to make small arms then it will be a huge leap for Indian small arms industry. the govt companies monopoly must be broken to increase competition and produce world class better products. now it leaves much to be desired.

edit: EXCALBUR has already been inducted into some para military forces. the person on the extreme right is carrying it, with the field glasses .




also the tender for 7.62 x 51mm rifles will also get cancelled mark my words.
the MCIWS is being converted to fire 7.62x51mm rounds (the rifle on the right side)

and the rifle on the left side is INSAS 1B1 in its final iteration and the object of ur scorn