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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:40am On Oct 29, 2016 |
tglobal: Happy Birthday chief |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:43am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Algerian Journalist: The Pace Of Nigeria Attack Will Be Too Much For Our Slow Defenders To Handle, It’s Scary Veteran Algerian journalist Raidi Mazher has pointed out the lack of pace in the Algerian backline as an area of weakness Nigeria could exploit when both teams meet in Uyo on the 12th of November. Raidi pointed out that, the centre defence pairing of skipper Carl Medjani and Liasinne Camaduro, are not the sort of pair a team would love to line up against the pacy Nigerians. ”One area of concern for Algeria ahead of the game in Nigeria is the central defence. It’s no secret that Camaduro and Medjani are not the quickest, and with the pace of the Nigerians. I fear the worst” He told Owngoalnigeria.com. ”We are well covered on the left and right side of our defence with Faouzi Ghoulam and Mehdi Zeffane, they will have more to do in covering up for the central defence. ”My major worry is the full backs also have speed demons to tender to in the Nigerian wingers, Victor Moses, Moses Simon, Ahmed Musa and Alex Iwobi are all lighting quick, so when the full backs cover up. We could be exploited by the gap they create. It’s a concern”. Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/10/28/algerian-journalist-the-pace-of-nigeria-attack-will-be-too-much-for-our-slow-defenders-to-handle-its-scary/ 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:01am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: Pep did not use the formation in his conquests. He used it in some games. The Back line of Barca was Abidal...Pique..Puyol.. Dani Alves. This was the main back line. Not 3-4-3. I think you should read more on it. The formation is actually difficult to pull off. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:16am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Lokeren chase Egbuchulam Enugu Rangers star forward, Chisom Egbuchulam is wanted by Belgian club Lokeren and could well seal the move in the January transfer window. Egbuchulam, 24, was one of the top stars of this past season after his 16 goals in the league helped Rangers clinch a first major trophy in 32 years. “He is wanted by Lokeren and could well move in January, when the transfer window reopens,” a source close to Rangers disclosed. Former Eagles striker, Samson Siasia featured for Lokeren in the 80s. The speedy forward, who has a good dribble, was part of the Eagles World Cup squad to Zambia earlier this month. He has exploded this past term after he was considered a player not to start games at Rangers for many seasons. He has given credit to coach Imama Amapakabo for the super season. Source: http://thenationonlineng.net/lokeren-chase-egbuchulam/ 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princesuko(m): 3:12am On Oct 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: You guys cherish arguments here o . Always Talking sport 24/7 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:29am On Oct 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Dani Alves plays as a wing back. Not a full back in a flat back line |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:04am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Sper Eagles Media Officer had this to say about the list yesterday when someone asked him..
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:13am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: That formation cannot work for an African Team. We do not have both the time and tactical discipline to do such in the WC qualifiers that the team has barely 4-5 days to train together. Club football is different from national team football. National teams that try such formation usually have most of their national team players playing in the same league and such it would be easier to build the Team Chemistry based on that formation. A player like Victor Moses would keep to instruction at Chelsea but when he comes to Nigeria he would b playing to the gallery. Na that one u want make him play defense for u? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:15am On Oct 29, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: Are you of the opinion that we try that 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 formation against Algeria? Tell me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:43am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: See, it is very normal for coaches to switch formations even in a single match. Football is dynamic as u rightly put it. A team can start up with a 4-5-1, switch to 4-4-2, switch to 4-3-3 & end up with 3-4-3 in a single game depending on the situation the team found itself during d game and what results it aims to achieve. Nobody is saying 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 is not a good formation. There are so many factors to consider before a team adopts a particular formation for a particular game or competition. Each of those formations have there advantages and also disadvantages. So many things are involved. They have their own risks elements. And several times u run ur cost and benefit anslysis for each. IMO the formation with the least risk associated with it is the 4-5-1. MOST national teams in the world set-up their teams with this formation. A very balanced formation that can get u mass attack eg 4-1-4-1 or mass defence 4-4-1-1.U can also play with a crowded midfield eg 4-2-3-1. U can also easily switch to a 4-4-2 without making any substitution. For a 3-4-3 formation u stand a risk of being over-run and demolished if ur opponents really capitalise on ur lack of RB & LB. Clubs can afford to take more risks and perform more experiments than the national teams. Clubs spend more time together and usually have the quality of players to execute which ever formation they chose. Also Club competitions run every year and several competitions run concurrently in a year. So if u are out of one u still have others to take part in and then correct ur mistakes. But for the national team? U dnt take any how risk. If u are out of a competition it will take u another 2 or 4 years to come back. Let Conte and Pep be entertaining us with their 3-4-3. And let Rohr take us to Russia with his adopted 4-2-3-1. Pls we are ok for now with that formation. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:30am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Icon4s:What I dont understand is the attack on 3-5-2. You have never used it but you are afraid of it. If you check enough forums, you will see some people afraid of 4-5-1. What I see here is just bias. It's not just clubs that use 3-5-2 for goodness sake. National team use it. Conte used it with Italy. Bielsa used it with Argentina. Prandeli used it with Italy too. Chile has also used it. I seriously don't know why there is such opposition to trying out different tactics. If we have friendlies or have an extended period for camping, why not? What is the harm in trying new things in low pressure games? Or is this about Conte and the issue with Mikel? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:36am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Icon4s: How many times have I said we should try them only in friendlies and low pressure games? Have I been singing to the choir? Do Argentine players have most of their players playing in the same league when Bielsa used it with them? What about Chile? Just say you don't like Moses. Saying Moses will not play to the instructions of the coach is below the belt. The players respect Rohr. And with the crop of players we have now, why are you under-estimating their technical and tactical ability to pull off all kinds of formations including 3-5-2 with enough training and devotion? It's not good that you are saying the same things that those white supremists say. Africans can do anything that people of other races can do. We are not inferior beings. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:40am On Oct 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:You don't know Pep. Go and read Pep Confidential where he detailed how he made the formation work. I can send you a copy if you want. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:46am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: What is my own with Conte and Mikel's case. Did you see me make any comment critisizing Conte for not fielding Mikel? U mentioned countries that play that formation as Italy and Argentina. These are teams that have quality in abundance to execute which ever formation they chose. Their players also have the tactical discipline to adhere to the instructions that will back that kind of formation. We are in Africa. Conditions are not right here. Our players play in different leagues and under different coaches with different idealogies. AFRICAN PLAYERS GENERALLY LACK TACTICAL DISCIPLINE. There may b little or no time to for the boys to train together to adjust to an unfamiliar formation. A 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 formation requires a lot of running and movements from the Wing backs/LMF/RMF. For our kind of climate/weather the steam in those wing backs will die out after 60mins of the game and the wall of Jericho of that team will colapse U know what will follow. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:50am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: We dnt even need it in friendlies. We should instead use the friendlies to try natural LB and RB options. 4 defenders at the back is still the big deal. And wait... i don't like Moses? Wow. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:53am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Icon4s:I see that you intentionally left Chile. Chile has always had more quality than all African teams, abi? African countries do not have the football brains to pull off what a country that didn't win any trophy for 99 years did during their dark years? Okay na. Continue. African players are brain-dead with no ability to learn and switch formations. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:55am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013:And let me also help u add Wales. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:58am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Icon4s:I did. Please check the words you quoted. Good that you mentioned Wales. Is Wales also better than all African teams? How come they can pull off formations that you think we can't? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:59am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: I am sure u know African football well enough to understand what I am talking about. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:00am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: Which African team is ranked as high as Wales? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:00am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Icon4s:How come you like Moses but you say he wont listen to the instructions of coaches of African teams? I look at attitudes, not platitudes towards players to determine which players are favourites with some people here. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 8:03am On Oct 29, 2016 |
AF Nigeria 2017 Africa Cup of Nations Qualifiers Algeria Super Eagles recall John Ogu, Alampasu for Algeria clash John Ogu vs Chad in Kaduna in June 2015 Midfielder John Ogu and goalkeeper Dele Alampasu have both been handed recalls to the Super Eagles ahead of a World Cup qualifier against Algeria next month, AfricanFootball.com has reliably gathered. Both players have been out of the team for a while, with Ogu's last involvement being in a 2-0 defeat of Chad in an Africa Cup of Nations qualifier last year June, while Alampasu has not be called since the preliminary round World Cup qualifier against Swaziland late last year. The invitations might come as a surprise though, seeing as Nigeria coach Gernot Rohr appeared to rule out Ogu from his plans just ahead of the World Cup qualifier against Zambia earlier this month. However, the 28-year old has been one of Nigeria's finest players in Europe over the last year, and won the Israeli championship with Hapoel Be'er Sheva, as well as being voted the best foreign player in that country. For Alampasu, he left Feirense - who had been promoted to the Portuguese top tier - on loan in the summer for a search of regular first team football, and it has proved an inspired move as he has played every game since joining Cesarense in the Portuguese second-tier league. The game against Algeria comes up next month in Uyo, with the full list expected to be made public this weekend or Monday at the latest. By Chris Oguguo africanfootball.com/news/659459/Super-Eagles-recall-John-Ogu-Alampasu-for-Algeria-clash 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 8:05am On Oct 29, 2016 |
the list is out Goalkeppers Carl Ikeme Daniel Akpeyi Dele Alampasu Defenders Elderson Echiejile Brian Idowu Tyrone Ebuehi * Kenneth Omeruo William Troost Ekong Leon Balogun Godfrey Obaboana/ Uche Agbo Midfielders Mikel Obi Ogenyi Onazi John Ogu Shehu Abdullahi Wilfred Ndidi Forwards Kelechi Iheanacho Odion Ighalo Brown Ideye Alex Iwobi Oghenekaro Etebo Moses Simon Isacc Success * Victor Osimhen Ahmed Musa Victor Moses 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:07am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Icon4s:So it's by ranking now? You believe based on FIFA ranking that Iran is superior to Algeria? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:07am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: Common, Joseph, na u dey talk like this? Are u telling me Moses has been as efficient in the Super Eagles as he has been under Conte? U have forgotten how reckless he was against Tanzania? The fact dat i love a player doesn't stop me from pointing out his weakness. Victor Moses when he comes to the Eagles usually loses that tactical discipline he displays at club level. U can take that to the CBN governor. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:08am On Oct 29, 2016 |
jotey: Thanks! 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:15am On Oct 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: Have you looked at the quality the Welsh team posses? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:19am On Oct 29, 2016 |
Yaaaaaaaaayyyy!!!!!!!! Yiiiipppppeeee!!!!!!!!!!! It's official!!! This thread and NL sports is among sites being strongly monitored.... I have always said that Dele Alampasu should be a better understudy and "somehow" e be like say Rohr got the message... Wow!!! Still awaiting the confirmatory list shaa.... ....................................................................... REVEALED: Super Eagles 25 Man List For Algeria Clash With Russian Born Nigerian Brain Idowu Included Although the official list of players for Nigeria’s second World Cup 2018 qualifiers tie is yet to be released. Owngoalnigeria.com can exclusively reveal the names of 25 players who have been penciled down by manager Gernot Rohr for the November 12 game in Uyo. However Dutch-Nigerian Tyronne Ebuehi could miss out as exclusively reported by Owngoalnigeria.com as he is yet to be issued a Nigerian passport. But Russian born Nigerian Brian Idowu has no such problem and he is included. Gernot Rohr is yet to decide on who gets the back up central defence slot between Granada Uche Agbo and Rizespor Godfrey Obabaoana, a decision which could however be made before the end of the weekend. John Ogu is in the squad at the expense of Nosa Igiebor and Anderson Esiti with Wilfred Ndidi abilities to play in midfield and defence also a factor used in axing the aforementioned duo. Doubts still persists about the availability of Isacc Success although he assured the manager during a meeting this week, that he will be available. Oghenekaro Etebo is in the squad while teen Super Star Victor Osimhen is in it as well. Goalkeepers Carl Ikeme Daniel Akpeyi Dele Alampasu Defenders Elderson Echiejile Brian Idowu Tyrone Ebuehi * Kenneth Omeruo William Troost Ekong Leon Balogun Godfrey Obaboana/ Uche Agbo Midfielders Mikel Obi Ogenyi Onazi John Ogu Shehu Abdullahi Wilfred Ndidi Forwards Kelechi Iheanacho Odion Ighalo Brown Ideye Alex Iwobi Oghenekaro Etebo Moses Simon Isacc Success * Victor Osimhen Ahmed Musa Victor Moses Note : The * indicates "not certain yet" Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/10/29/revealed-super-eagles-25-man-list-for-algeria-clash-with-russian-born-nigerian-brain-idowu-included/ 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:26am On Oct 29, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: First time wey I go see list wey I no go fit hala. Nairaland is good ooooooo. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:28am On Oct 29, 2016 |
John Ogu's and Alampasu's invitations are surely official... So excited Alampasu is back... As I see him as Ikeme's long term replacement not Emma Daniel. ....................................................................... SUPER EAGLES RECALL JOHN OGU, ALAMPASU FOR ALGERIA CLASH John Ogu vs Chad in Kaduna in June 2015 Midfielder John Ogu and goalkeeper Dele Alampasu have both been handed recalls to the Super Eagles ahead of a World Cup qualifier against Algeria next month, AfricanFootball.com has reliably gathered. Both players have been out of the team for a while, with Ogu's last involvement being in a 2-0 defeat of Chad in an Africa Cup of Nations qualifier last year June, while Alampasu has not be called since the preliminary round World Cup qualifier against Swaziland late last year. The invitations might come as a surprise though, seeing as Nigeria coach Gernot Rohr appeared to rule out Ogu from his plans just ahead of the World Cup qualifier against Zambia earlier this month. However, the 28-year old has been one of Nigeria's finest players in Europe over the last year, and won the Israeli championship with Hapoel Be'er Sheva, as well as being voted the best foreign player in that country. For Alampasu, he left Feirense - who had been promoted to the Portuguese top tier - on loan in the summer for a search of regular first team football, and it has proved an inspired move as he has played every game since joining Cesarense in the Portuguese second-tier league. The game against Algeria comes up next month in Uyo, with the full list expected to be made public this weekend or Monday at the latest. Source: http://africanfootball.com//news/659459/Super-Eagles-recall-John-Ogu-Alampasu-for-Algeria-clash 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:35am On Oct 29, 2016 |
I no wan argue again. See fine list. I for one have no complaints. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:38am On Oct 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: How many chances did West Ham create with all the allover gra gra? |
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