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Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by Niflheim(m): 2:21pm On Oct 29, 2016 |
"We will all be here, right here on Earth"........................Such a pity that your bible never predicted the fact that humans will be living outside Earth, on the International Space Station, in the 21st Century!!! |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 3:19pm On Oct 29, 2016 |
Niflheim: Actually the Bible is not meant for nitwits. The writers of the Bible explored space. Go figure! Such arrogant display of gross ignorance! |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by Wilgrea7(m): 7:05pm On Oct 29, 2016 |
MrPresident1: Democracy, freedom, women liberation?? how the bleep are those things bad? 1 Like |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 11:33pm On Oct 29, 2016 |
Wilgrea7: They are all lies and deception from the pit of satan. Democracy is a lie, it is not real. Freedom is a lie, there is no freedom in this world ruled by satan. Women liberation is a lie, liberation from what? Women liberation is the lie being used by satan to destroy the institution of marriage. A situation whereby a woman claims equality with a man in marriage will inevitably lead to friction, and perhaps eventual divorce. They are all useless concepts designed to enslave the people forever. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by Ken4Christ: 2:30am On Oct 30, 2016 |
Op, you are very wrong. The word Rapture though is not in the Bible but the phenomenon is true and it will take place. Rapture simply means to be caught up. For you to judge that a doctrine cannot be true, you have to ask yourself a few questions like; 1. Are there other verses that suggests such a thing could happen? 2. Has it ever happened to anyone or group of persons. 3. Does the scriptures give us account of people in heaven? If it did, how did they get there. The subject is very broad that I can spend days and hundreds of pages to properly enlighten you and other skeptics but I will just make a few submission based on the evidence of the scriptures. Jesus said in John 14: 1-3 1. Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. Where is Jesus now? Heaven or earth? We all know he is in heaven and he promised to come back and take us to where he is. This is only possible through the Rapture. The other way people go to heaven is when they die in the Lord. Their spirit goes to heaven. When Jesus comes, their spirit will reunite with their bodies and will be caught up in a transformed body. The confusion people have is trying to mistake the Rapture for the second coming of Christ. The second coming is when he comes to establish his 1,000 years reign on earth. The Rapture will take place before that and some of the raptured Saints will come back to earth to reign with Jesus. If it is impossible to be caught up, how did Jesus go back to heaven? He was caught up. Acts 1:9-11. 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Again, he was not caught up alone. Saints of old whose graves where opened after Jesus resurretion where also caught up with him Matthew 27:52-53 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. After they appeared to many, where did you think they went afterwards? Did you think they died a second death or just disappeared into the thin air? They were the clouds that received Jesus in Acts 1:9. I know this revelations beats your theology. My friend, the Rapture is very real. It will happen . If you don't believe in Jesus and serve him faithfully, you will be left behind to face the great tribulation. The Bible talks about other future raptures which I will discuss in subsequent posts. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by Splinz(m): 5:41am On Oct 30, 2016 |
Hello Ken4Christ, how are you my brother? Yes, as per your contribution to this thread concerning the so-called "rapture", I'm sorry to say that your submission is ridiculous and self-deluded! You've bear witness to the fact that the word "rapture" is unbiblical, in other word- a fabrication, but still went ahead to ascribed it as a Bible teaching. Hello! From whence did you get such a teaching from since it is obviously not in the Bible? Note that what you're propagating is simply a fiction of your imagination as a result of misinterpretation or misrepresentation of biblical teachings. For example, cunningly using the phrase "caught up" to equal or validate rapture. And please, do not always read meanings to scripture, for the Bible always explain itself when it matters most. Jesus ASCENDED into heaven, He didn't rapture nor did those whose graves were opened. Nowhere does the scripture even remotely suggested that Jesus ascended into heaven with any body. Those resurrected during His (Jesus) resurrection were resurrected to life, and they simply went about living their normal lives again as seen in the case of Lazarus! The rapture, like many other 'invention' such as: trinity, is to counterfeit God's authentic doctrines which in this case is the RESURRECTION! If you want to talk about something, then talk about the resurrection which is one of the doctrine in the Bible- not rapture- it doesn't exist! It is after the resurrection that the saints are "caught up" in the sky with the Lord. This is biblical teaching! Bye now. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 7:25am On Oct 30, 2016 |
Splinz: Bros, thank you jare. This people never listen. But they will eventually understand, it is the infallible promise of The Most High God. Erm...bros, no one is flying into the skies o, and Jesus is not descending from the literal skies either. Meeting with the Lord in the air is a DISPLACEMENT REACTION. The current occupier of that position, the one Paul calls-the prince of the power of the air will be disgraced, and permanently displaced by Jesus Christ, the Prince of peace, the Prince of God. The prince of the power of the air is satan, he is the one working in the children of disobedience, he is the one responsible for all the evil doctrine in the world because the world has been given over to him for sometime. He is called the prince of the power of the air because air has the power to infiltrate everything, so he infiltrates everywhere with his evil doctrine- Capitalism, consumerism, slavery, neo colonialism, materialism, same sex marriage and LGBT, women liberation, organised religion, atheism, democracy etc., they are all they beastly doctrines by which he rules the earth. But the Prince of peace, the Prince of God is coming to disgrace, and displace him forever. The Prince of peace will shred his kingdom and his doctrines forever. The Prince of peace will replace the doctrines of satan with the doctrines of God. Men will have peace, there will no more be evil or wickedness, or slavery, it will be a kingdom of everlasting bliss in the kingdom of the Prince of peace when he comes to displace the wicked and utterly corrupt satan ruling this world presently. The Prince of peace is coming to displace the prince of the power of the air from the position of rulership. We will no longer have LGBT, or capitalism, or slavery or democracy, or evil or wickedness. The Prince of peace has already defeated satan 2,000 years, ago. He is coming in power and great glory. satan, the prince of the power of the air of this world quakes and shìts in his pants when he considers his future. The Prince of peace is here. The Lamb of God. The Lion of the tribe of Judah. The Mighty God. Of His kingdom there shall be no end. Wonderful, Counsellor, Great and Mighty God. The LORD is in His holy temple, let the earth be quiet before Him! |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 7:34am On Oct 30, 2016 |
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Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by wolesmile(m): 9:07am On Oct 30, 2016 |
MrPresident1: You no get shame o. You still dey talk? |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 9:10am On Oct 30, 2016 |
wolesmile: Has Hitlery or Trump been sworn in yet ![]() Shame about what? At least wait until either of them is sworn in na bros ![]() |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by wolesmile(m): 9:15am On Oct 30, 2016 |
MrPresident1: Was there not a time you gave a definite date for the end of the world? I even helped you to do a countdown then. So if either of them is sworn in, what happens to your belief? |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 9:28am On Oct 30, 2016 |
wolesmile: Bros, those were times I was growing and learning more about the times and seasons when God moves. If you examine the times I gave in the past, you will see that they were tied to specific issues. Like the time Moses received the 10 commandments, or when Israel departed from Egypt, or when the Holy Spirit came at pentecost. All of these are forerunner models for the coming of Christ who is the Law and Spirit of God (Law of Moses), and who is coming to save Israel (Negroes) from the hell (Egypt) they are currently in. Non of the earlier prophecies was outlandish or bizarre, they all followed the progression of Scriptures as my understanding grew. Now, I can say with a measure of confidence that I am on the right track. Why? 1. The son of perdition has been revealed 2. The falling away has occurred 3. The One World government has been signed (the treaty on global climate change) 4. Christ is risen from the dead 5. Signs continue to appear in the heavens, signs in the sun, in the moon and in the stars 6. Distress of nations. Nigeria currently is said to be in recession. If Nigeria is in recession, the whole of West Africa is in recession. 7. Knowledge is increasing. More and more people are coming out of ignorance, more and more people are rejecting organised religion and embracing rationality. More atheists and more irreligious people 8. They are trying to mix the ideology of Iron and Clay. 9. Men are becoming more and more desperately wicked. 10. This generation is the end generation, I have not seen a generation as stupid and irreverent as this. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by wolesmile(m): 9:38am On Oct 30, 2016 |
MrPresident1: In other words, you were doing trial and error. A mathematical permutations of events, just like gambling. Bros, it's better you wake up. Now, what happens if either of them is sworn in? You go back to your sanctum and recalculate? |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by Nobody: 10:05am On Oct 30, 2016 |
MrPresident1: You were making little sense with your metaphysics on rapture, then you decided to ruin it with that huge pile of bunkum you wrote up there. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 10:17am On Oct 30, 2016 |
wolesmile: Now there is such a thing as leaving the principles of Christ and growing up into maturity and perfection. It is a progressive growth continuum, all the periods I gave in the past are part of the progressive growth process. When the prophecy is fulfilled, many of you here and elsewhere are going to offer me heartfelt apologies ![]() ![]() Christ is already risen from the dead, he has become energised and animated by the Word, God has breathed His spirit into him, and he has come alive again. And when Christ has come alive the only thing that is remaining is for him to take the kingdom and reign. Again, bros, I am telling you that neither Mrs Hitlery or Mr Trump will be president. The son of perdition has been revealed, according to the precedents given to us by which we would recognise him, he is already recognised. Also, the Falling Away has occurred. Both of these signs are the critical signs that Apostle Paul told us to watch out for, he said the end would not come until these two signs are fulfilled. Fortunately for us, the signs are fullfilled. Bros, Jesus Christ will come during the time of President Obama, you can take this fact to the bank! It is surer than anything you have ever seen or known. Jesus will come like a thief in the night, no advance outlandish warning, but plenty of warnings to the truly discerning. President Obama is scheduled to leave office 20th of January 2017, Christ will come before this time ![]() |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 10:23am On Oct 30, 2016 |
DarkRebel101: This thread is for the strongest, most astute, and most discerning of hearts. This thread is not for intellectual lilliputians. 》》》》This way to moin moin and eko threads ![]() |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by wolesmile(m): 10:36am On Oct 30, 2016 |
MrPresident1: Again? |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by dragunov: 2:13pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
MrPresident1:What is the iron and Clay ideology. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 3:14pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 3:16pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
dragunov: Read it in the book of Daniel 2 |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by dragunov: 4:26pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Teach me nahh. Haha! Abi which kain man of God be this. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 6:01pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
dragunov: I am still studying the prophecy. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by omojeesu(m): 6:18pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
MrPresident1: NO COMMENT BUT YOU CAN CHECK OUT THE FOLLOWING: Matt 24:21-31 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 2 Thess 2:1-3 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Rev 7:13-17 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. KJV |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 6:40pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
omojeesu: Omojeesu, I have explained all these in this thread and in my other threads. I have explained the falling away, and the revelation of the son of perdition. The book of Revelation was written in codes and in symbols and is not meant to be taken literally. In one of my threads I have also explained the coming of Christ in the 'clouds of heaven'. Find and read when you have time |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by toocoded: 4:50pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
SisterMe:Donald Trump won, now what ![]() |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by Ken4Christ: 10:30pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
Splinz: What I wrote is not ridiculous. I am speaking the truth. The issue is not the word rapture but the phenomenon. I will still explain the whole experience without using the word Rapture. I think you are confusing it with the word rupture. My submission is that the church will be CAUGHT UP . I am sure you are aware that the word caught up is in the Bible which should make you more comfortable. Let me give you scriptural proofs that the faithful Saints will be caught up. 1. It is implied in the statement of Jesus John 14:1-3. 1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that WHERE I AM, THERE YE MAY BE ALSO. Jesus promised to take us to where he is. How do you get to heaven if you are not caught up? Apostle Paul said it. 1st Thessalonian 4:16-17. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. The Lord will descend from heaven. The meeting point will be in the air or sky above but we will not be floating there. He will take us to heaven. Our Lord Jesus himself was caught up after his resurretion. Acts 1:9-11. 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was TAKEN UP; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye him... The book of revelation also reveals two Prophets that were caught up after they rose from dead Revelation 11:3-12. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. note 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. 11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And THEY ASCENDED UP to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. What about the 144,000 Jews that were sealed on their foreheads for protection in Revelation, chapter 7. They were seen in heaven in Revelation, chapter 14. How did they get there? There are three words used to describe the same experience in the Scriptures I just quoted. They are, caught up, taken up and ascended. I don't have to use the word Rapture. Believe it or not, Jesus is coming back to take his faithful Saints to heaven and it will be very soon. We will not be there forever as there will be a new heaven and a new earth. However, the new heaven and the new earth will be no longer separate. It will be one entity. There will be heaven on earth. Shalom. 1 Like |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by SisterMe(f): 4:40pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
toocoded:
Thank God you quoted me... A woman. WILL be president...that is settled. When? I don't know. I thought it would be Hillary but I said clearly here, that. I am not a prophet and I do not know who will be president.... And I can tell you, that YOU do not know either, even if Trump has won, he MAY still not be president come January next year. If he eventually is president and does four years, then expect Michelle Obama ( most visible female liberal who can win) to be President in the next four years, but what is cast iron certain, is that a woman will be president, and she will be the last US president. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by toocoded: 4:53pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
SisterMe:Last US president ![]() |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by dabrightt: 8:23pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
[/color][color=]you are a principality go and read the book of revelation... |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 8:55am On Aug 15, 2019 |
At rapture the ideology of God is written inside us, we become incapable of sin, we become holy. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 9:15pm On Aug 17, 2019 |
Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. |
Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by MrPresident1: 12:43pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
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