franugo:
Oya opinions pls

makelove2m:


Let's define them first......................... Hell is when you are unemployed, no other bussiness and your girl friend annopunce to you that she is three months pregnant.............. While heaven is when you eventually married to Adenugu daughter and still be the regional director to Dangote groups of Company........................ Hell doesn't exit anywhere else than here

franugo:
Oya opinions pls

omojeesu:
HELL IS A NECESSITY OF A SELF PRESERVING SYSTEM.

EVERY CITY HAS PRISONS FOR CONDEMNED CRIMINALS AND WASTE TREATMENT POINTS FOR ITS WASTE TO ENSURE SANITATION AND PREVENT DISEASE OUTBREAKS.

HOLINESS DEMAND PURITY OF THE SYSTEM.

Matt 25:41

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
KJV

bennyann:
You guys and mind games. You keep playing hide and seek with your creator. This creation still want to dictate to his creator how to act. Hmmmm!

Here goes your answer

For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Colossians 1:16-17 NIV

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Matthew 25:41 NIV


For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from the Lord. But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.
2 Peter 2:4-12 NIV
http://bible.com/111/2pe.2.4-12.NIV

franugo:


thank u sir. No one is ridiculing ur belief, i just asked a simple question which u seem to have provided a suitable answer to. Dt having been said, does dt mean dt hell was created long b4 earth was?

franugo:
Oya opinions pls

franugo:

so u choosing option A then?

franugo:
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otemanuduno:
Satan aka Yahweh created it through the power of his imagination. And it's only who believes in it like Gboyee4fun, 4evergod and Jacksonville that can get there, because our afterlife is determined by our beliefs here on earth(just like a dream made real).
God is Not A WICKED BEING THAT HE WOULD CREATE FIRE FOR THE PEOPLE HE CREATED. SATAN(YAHWEH) IS THE ONE BEHIND HELL FIRE.

Jacksonville:



mr false prophet. thought u said reverad created all things ...Demonic possessed man.

otemanuduno:
QUOTE ME WHERE I SAY THAT REVERAD THE FATHER OF YAHWEH CREATED HELL FIRE AMONG ALL THINGS HE CREATED
Reverad created the universe but he didn't create a matchstick. Humans create matchstick, Yahweh(satan) your god created hell fire for those who worship him imperfectly.

omojeesu:


I beg, which one be option A?

Jacksonville:



what do u have as proof that ur god(satan) created the universe mtsww... Bloody lies.

If he created only the universe, then who created human beings. see, just shut up and sit down.

what you preach here is demonic. You're not changing lives, rather you're destroying them via your deceit ND monetary bribe. That's how the devil the deceiver does.


you claim your god is stronger than Yahweh and you are more powerful than him, yet you can't heal the sick, prophesy or do signs and wonders because you're not genuine. Any living and sane entity that doesn't testify that Jesus is Lord, is not genuine and is of the devil.... False prophet.. a prophet of Satan.

otemanuduno:
Satan aka Yahweh created it through the power of his imagination. And it's only who believes in it like Gboyee4fun, 4evergod and Jacksonville that can get there, because our afterlife is determined by our beliefs here on earth(just like a dream made real).
God is Not A WICKED BEING THAT HE WOULD CREATE FIRE FOR THE PEOPLE HE CREATED. SATAN(YAHWEH) IS THE ONE BEHIND HELL FIRE.

MrPRevailer:


Hell is under the Earth.(Story of koram dathan and Abiram). The Earth has been existing since God knows. It is older than the Sun and moon. But it remained void until God started his 7 days creation.
In the final judgement, hellfire will be cast to the lake of fire (Revelations 20)

MrMystrO:
Let us now take a detour into a yet denser reality so we can better understand another of our options upon awakening in the borderland. There are some of us who have lived our lives in such a way that we have turned completely within ourselves. We have blocked out all love, all warmth, and all spirit from our daily doings; we have created a void within and around ourselves. We chose to deny our responsibilities to others and to ourselves; we choose ourselves at all cost. Upon passing on, before we become conscious that we have entered the borderland, we swiftly move on to that realm to which our life choices in the Earth resonate. This region is void of love, life, and light, void of all of those things we cast out from our lives in the Earth. The region in which we find ourselves is approximately our wish come true. We are truly alone, with ourselves, within ourselves; it is pain beyond pain for us. Edgar Cayce described this region of void as "outer darkness." The name of this dimension describes it very accurately, as we find no love, hope, friendship, kindness, benevolence, or any of what we have come to know as human qualities. Instead there is nothing but ourselves, and it is unbearable. In the absence of that which we term "fruits of the spirit" truth, love, patience, gentleness, kindness, long-suffering, and brotherly love we fill the void with an irrational and unbelievable amount of pain and fear. It is so dark in the realm of outer darkness that the dark hurts and panic grips us without our knowing why. Like our material universe, outer darkness seems endless and without any meaningful boundaries. There is nowhere we can go to escape the agony and horror which fills almost every part of our being, and the desire to flee consumes us. The farther and faster we travel through this realm the greater the feeling that it is endless. Even outer darkness has degrees, and it is darker and denser at the center than at its outer fringes. Helen Greaves describes these degrees as hells. Likewise, this is the hell described by Emanuel Swedenborg in Heaven and Its Wonders and Hell From Things Heard and Seen. The closer we are to the outer edges, the more interaction there is with others in the realm, while the closer to the center we find ourselves, the darker and more painful we find the solitude. One who finds himself in outer darkness cannot move toward the center by force of his own motion. The center represents levels of reality and are not linear. One cannot travel across this dimension; one must grow through the levels of this realm.



Outer darkness is not one of those realms which must be overcome in stages, although we can choose that method of growth. One may find himself on a particular level after death that most closely corresponds to his activity and the degree of absence of those fruits of the spirit in his life, and there is no need to experience other levels here. No level of outer darkness is without pain and fear, but, as we have noted, the very center is the most agonizing. In the reality we call outer darkness, we have very little memory of our earthly lives. We remember little, if anything, of our earthly relationships, and we are so absorbed in pain and fear that our suffering exacts every last ounce of our attention.



This lower region of outer darkness is not a punishment. It is a region which operates lawfully for the benefit of those agonized souls. This region is not a realm which was created for any soul to experience, but one which came about as a consequence of the negative activity of souls in creation. So great has been the desire for self, so monumental across time and space has been the selfishness of some of God's creatures, that this realm is the creation or manifestation of their own collective activities. Outer darkness and the reality with which it is associated were created and are held in place by collective self-interest.



As noted previously, universal law is perfect and works for the benefit of all, all of the time. An excellent example of the law of grace is that no evil, no negativity, whether single or collective in nature, exists without a way of redemption being simultaneously imprinted by the Creative Forces throughout its fiber.



Nowhere is it more obvious than in the realm of outer darkness that no one needs to remain here beyond one's own will to do so. We might conjecture that no one wishes to suffer such misery but that simply is not so. We constantly do things on the Earth realm that cause us difficulty, unhappiness, pain, and illness. We do not wish to suffer the discomfort of our actions, but this does not keep us from those activities. In the Earth realm, as in spiritual realms, until we turn our attention from ourselves, we cannot in any way change our estate.



The occupants of outer darkness are there for various lengths of Earth time. It is peculiar to discuss length of residence by a measure which does not exist in that dimension. For most of us it is very difficult to relate to a timeless condition, so the use of finite terms helps us to better understand. Some residents feel they have been in outer darkness for weeks or months, others for eons. No doubt, all are correct in their assessment of length of time spent in this realm. In a reality of pain and torment, even a moment can seem like an eternity and there is no way to judge length of stay until after one has long departed. Doubtless, some souls have occupied outer darkness for what we would measure as hundreds, even thousands of years. But it is more likely that most stay for a considerably shorter period. It is not possible for souls to be forever confined to outer darkness since, in such a case, there would be no hope of redemption. Further, Swedenborg noted in his book, Heaven and Its Wonders and Hell from Things Heard and Seen, that it is God who keeps the balance in the realm of outer darkness so that all things would not be destroyed. Again, outer darkness is not a punishment, rather it is the ultimate manifestation of our own undoing, and he who is Mercy would never abandon us to such spiritual agony.

franugo:
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franugo:
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Jacksonville:


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what do u have as proof that ur god(satan) created the universe mtsww... Bloody lies.

If he created only the universe, then who created human beings. see, just shut up and sit down.

Jacksonville:



what do u have as proof that ur god(satan) created the universe mtsww... Bloody lies.

If he created only the universe, then who created human beings?

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

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. MATTHEW 25:31-46.

31. "When the Son of Man
shall come in his Glory,
and all the Holy Angels with him,
then shall he sit upon
The Throne of his Glory:
32. "And before him shall be
gathered all Nations:
and he shall separate them
one from another,
as a shepherd divideth
his Sheep from the Goats:
33. "And he shall set the Sheep
on his Right hand,
but the Goats on the Left.
34. "Then shall the King say
unto them on his Right hand,

'Come, ye blessed of my Father,
inherit the Kingdom
prepared for you
from the Foundation of the World:
35. 'For I was an hungred,
and ye gave me meat:
I was thirsty,
and ye gave me drink:
I was a stranger,
and ye took me in:
36. 'Naked, and ye clothed me:
I was sick,
and ye visited me:
I was in prison,
and ye came unto me.'

37. "Then shall the Righteous
answer him, saying,

'Lord, when saw we thee
an hungred, and fed thee?
or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38. 'When saw we thee a stranger,
and took thee in?
or naked, and clothed thee?
39. 'Or when saw we thee sick,
or in prison,
and came unto thee?'

40. "And the King shall answer
and say unto them,
'Verily I say unto you,

"Inasmuch as ye have done it
unto one of the least
of these my Brethren,
ye have done it unto me." '
41. "Then shall he say also
unto them on the Left hand,

'Depart from me, ye Cursed,
into Everlasting Fire,
prepared for the Devil
and his Angels:
42. 'For I was an hungred,
and ye gave me no meat:
I was thirsty,
and ye gave me no drink:
43. 'I was a stranger,
and ye took me not in:
naked, and ye clothed me not:
sick, and in prison,
and ye visited me not.'

44. "Then shall they also answer him, saying,
'Lord, when saw we thee
an hungred, or athirst,
or a stranger, or naked,
or sick, or in prison,
and did not minister unto thee?'

45. "Then shall he answer them, saying,

'Verily I say unto you,

"Inasmuch as ye did it not
to one of the least of these,
ye did it not to me." '

46. "And these shall go away
into Everlasting Punishment:
but the Righteous into Life Eternal."

GOD DID, OF COURSE.

franugo:


i don't understand sir, u mean u can perform miracles?

franugo:


what exactly did this story of koran etc. say about hell sir?

MrPRevailer:


Google is your friend.

I just answer you anyway.

Koran, Dathan, Abiram rose up against Moses and accused him of being pompous and leader over them as if he's the only prophet of God. And went on to disobey his commands when he called them for a gathering.

Moses who became very grieved at this told them to gather tomorrow before God's tabernacle. But they refused.
God appeared to Moses and ordered him to go away immediately so he will destroy all the people. Moses pleaded and ordered the children of Israel to seperate from them.(koran, Dathan, Abiram).

And said "If a new thing happen and the ground open and swallow these people and all that pertains to them, know that they have sinned against God".
And immediately the ground opened and swallowed all of them and they went down alive to hell with their houses and belongings. Everything that pertained to them were no more found and the ground close again.

Jacksonville:



who is this and where do u come from did I say I could perform miracles?? .. I'm referring to otem who claims to be a prophet of a false god just like the prophets of Baal with false doctrines.

franugo:


u were criticising d guy u quoted, telling him dt since he cannot perform miracles, he is a fake prophet....what i'm asking now is what makes u or d religion u practice better